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Dec 11 2006, 11:29 PM
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From Noemi: Heroes is the best thing ever in prime-time TV! Any new gossip on the next season? What happened to Sylar?Forget Sylar! I scored some exclusive, kick-a** casting scoop! Wheee! Sources close to Heroes tell me that Jessalyn Gilsig (Nip/Tuck, Boston Public) has been cast as a pivotal character directly connected to one of the Heroes we already know and love. If you put on your super-sleuthing thinking caps, I bet you'll figure this one out all on your own. (And pssst...just in case your cap isn't working, I'll reveal Jessalyn's character to you in the spoiler section. Shhh!) From Bill: Hi, Kristin. I came across this post on afterelton.com and thought that you'd find it interesting. It's about how NBC and everyone are now taking a stance that Zach on Heroes is not gay.Yes, many of you have asked me about this. I have it on good authority that Zach was most definitely supposed to be gay when the series began, and we did see shades of that in earlier episodes, such as when he's teased for getting an erection in the locker room, and when he asks Claire if she's planning to "come out" to her parents. Obviously, that plan has changed. I can't tell you why, but I can tell you that originally, Zach would not have been making googly eyes at Claire. From Kristin: So who is Jessalyn Gilsig going to play on Heroes?Hey, Kristin?for you, I'll answer anything! Jessalyn Gilsig is going to play Claire's biological mother. From Courtney: I know I'm not the only one loving this Peter/Claire business on Heroes. Is there any way you think it will progress in the future? (If Peter doesn't blow up.)Peter and Claire will never, ever, ever be sitting in a tree, nor will they be k-i-s-s-i-n-g. Just trust me. ------------------------ I don't think I will ever accept the Claire/Zach relationship knowing that Zach's character was supposed to be gay. What ashame! Thank God there will be no Peter/Claire shipping! Based on what she said...with such a stronge "never gonna happen". I guess...could Peter/Claire be half brother/sister? Papa Petrellie could have an affair with Claire's mom
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Dec 12 2006, 04:17 AM
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QUOTE Episode 1.13: The Fix Meredith, a trashy blonde from Texas makes her first appearance of 3 episodes Source: SpoilerFix.com QUOTE Hey, Kristin?for you, I'll answer anything! Jessalyn Gilsig is going to play Claire's biological mother. QUOTE A new female hero is joining the cast for a mini arc, and this person's power is unlike anything we've seen on the show so far. All I'll say is, she'd come in very handy on Survivor. Source: Ask Ausiello @ TV Guide QUOTE Jessalyn Gilsig ("Nip/Tuck") will appear in a multiepisode arc on NBC's "Heroes," reports Variety. Source: SuperHero Hype Alright so when the spoilers about Claude started to come out they looked very much like these. Hinting that each spoiler was talking about someone different. Which brings up the question could Claire's mom be Meredith the trashy blonde from texas? Also could her ability be very useful on survivor?
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Dec 12 2006, 04:28 AM
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Well, they may be different characters. Meredith. Claire's mom.
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Dec 12 2006, 02:32 PM
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it could be that claire's mom has some sort of connection with niki. at least i'm hoping so that the stories can connect already.
so cliare's mom is alive so that means here dad is dead right? someone has to be dead cause HRG said that the the incident resulted in a death. anyways i know they said its claire's biomom but i wonder if she'll meet up with otehr heroes before claire. who says she meets claire at all?
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Dec 12 2006, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE results in a death" is very ambigous don't your think well he was talking to issac and he really needed issac to paint the future so i guess hrg was willing to tell issac the truth. but yet he is a liar. so i dont know. he could have been lying. or maybe he thinks there was a death but there really wasnt. something like that
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Dec 12 2006, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE (DrDX @ Dec 12 2006, 08:46 PM)  Maybe when the Haitian mind wiped Zach, he inadvertantly removed whatever made him gay. Not getting into a whole debate about what makes a person gay, either a genetic abmormality or a pschological one, perhaps if we consider the latter, in the context of this show, then a specific memory being removed could influence him the other way. No one knows why a person is gay or not. Most gays I have known, say they knew at a very early age while some others realized it later after they were married. Perhaps a specific incident in their lives was the cause and if that memory was removed along with a few others,,,,,, and now Zach is straight. It's called self-acceptance vs. deep, deep self-denial...for many different environmental/fimilal reasons there are "gays" that can accept themselves early on because of "acceptance" of people like them from the beginning..and then those (ie-myself) who grew up in the Buckle of the Bible Belt with tons of bigots in our community that "coming out" is seriously dangerous...therefore, you go into a deep seeded denial as a method of self-perservation/survival..we are gay at conception, we will be gay forever, even after we die...and you ca not remove that with memory!
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Dec 12 2006, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE (jettasian @ Dec 12 2006, 02:29 AM)  From Bill: Hi, Kristin. I came across this post on afterelton.com and thought that you'd find it interesting. It's about how NBC and everyone are now taking a stance that Zach on Heroes is not gay.
Yes, many of you have asked me about this. I have it on good authority that Zach was most definitely supposed to be gay when the series began, and we did see shades of that in earlier episodes, such as when he's teased for getting an erection in the locker room, and when he asks Claire if she's planning to "come out" to her parents. Obviously, that plan has changed. I can't tell you why, but I can tell you that originally, Zach would not have been making googly eyes at Claire. Maybe when the Haitian mind wiped Zach, he inadvertantly removed whatever made him gay. Not getting into a whole debate about what makes a person gay, either a genetic abmormality or a pschological one, perhaps if we consider the latter, in the context of this show, then a specific memory being removed could influence him the other way. No one knows why a person is gay or not. Most gays I have known, say they knew at a very early age while some others realized it later after they were married. Perhaps a specific incident in their lives was the cause and if that memory was removed along with a few others,,,,,, and now Zach is straight.
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Dec 12 2006, 07:25 PM
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I think Claire's bio-mom eats bugs without throwing up.
That comes in very handy on Survivor.
Or maybe she can listen to Jeff Probst for a long time without having her gag refex kick in. That's definitely a superpower and it is related to eating bugs.
PLUS, if she eats bugs that will take care of her appetite and she won't be tempted to eat brains, so the cheerleader will be in much less danger than with Sylar.
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Dec 12 2006, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE (jettasian @ Dec 11 2006, 11:29 PM)  From Noemi: Heroes is the best thing ever in prime-time TV! Any new gossip on the next season? What happened to Sylar?Forget Sylar! I scored some exclusive, kick-a** casting scoop! Wheee! Sources close to Heroes tell me that Jessalyn Gilsig (Nip/Tuck, Boston Public) has been cast as a pivotal character directly connected to one of the Heroes we already know and love. If you put on your super-sleuthing thinking caps, I bet you'll figure this one out all on your own. (And pssst...just in case your cap isn't working, I'll reveal Jessalyn's character to you in the spoiler section. Shhh!) From Bill: Hi, Kristin. I came across this post on afterelton.com and thought that you'd find it interesting. It's about how NBC and everyone are now taking a stance that Zach on Heroes is not gay.Yes, many of you have asked me about this. I have it on good authority that Zach was most definitely supposed to be gay when the series began, and we did see shades of that in earlier episodes, such as when he's teased for getting an erection in the locker room, and when he asks Claire if she's planning to "come out" to her parents. Obviously, that plan has changed. I can't tell you why, but I can tell you that originally, Zach would not have been making googly eyes at Claire. From Kristin: So who is Jessalyn Gilsig going to play on Heroes?Hey, Kristin?for you, I'll answer anything! Jessalyn Gilsig is going to play Claire's biological mother. From Courtney: I know I'm not the only one loving this Peter/Claire business on Heroes. Is there any way you think it will progress in the future? (If Peter doesn't blow up.)Peter and Claire will never, ever, ever be sitting in a tree, nor will they be k-i-s-s-i-n-g. Just trust me. ------------------------ I don't think I will ever accept the Claire/Zach relationship knowing that Zach's character was supposed to be gay. What ashame! Thank God there will be no Peter/Claire shipping! Based on what she said...with such a stronge "never gonna happen". I guess...could Peter/Claire be half brother/sister? Papa Petrellie could have an affair with Claire's mom  Well, Zach should be gay. It was the talk amongst all my friends about how cool a popular show like this was going to have a gay character. It was cool because it was different. And OMG...where did you get those sexy pics of Milo in your signature!?
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Dec 12 2006, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE (gargyloveswolfy @ Dec 12 2006, 11:18 PM)  Oh geez, please..watch Queer as Folk...it'll make you much more happier...with a more realistic portrayl...yes, I am a lesbian..yes, I love QAF (USA)!  To be honest, I personally would rather see Zach as being straight, not because I'm anti-gay, but I've always thought how cool it would be be to see Zach/Claire further their relationship (althouh the whole mind frak the Haitian did on him will make this a little harder) cause it always undertones (to me at least) of a Peter Parker/Mary Jane storyline, just in reverse with Claire being the one with the superpower. Come on, the "nerd" (pariah, outsider, watchever label you'd like to put on him) should get the girl. Also because they have left his sexuality in sort of an ambigious state it's really not that much of stretch to portray him as straight now. Though I don't think it'll matter much because I don't see his character being alive that much longer. (Isn't the actor going to play the lead in the Sarah Chroniclies, or at least in the pilot? Of course the show may not even get picked up)
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Dec 12 2006, 09:53 PM
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Ya, I betcha Zach was going to be gay and his stay on the show was to have been much longer but the fact that he is set to star in another show is why the pulled the plug on him. In fact, they probably wrote in erasing his memory at the last second. I bet we've seen the last of Zach.
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Dec 16 2006, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE (gargyloveswolfy @ Dec 12 2006, 09:57 PM)  It's called self-acceptance vs. deep, deep self-denial...for many different environmental/fimilal reasons there are "gays" that can accept themselves early on because of "acceptance" of people like them from the beginning..and then those (ie-myself) who grew up in the Buckle of the Bible Belt with tons of bigots in our community that "coming out" is seriously dangerous...therefore, you go into a deep seeded denial as a method of self-perservation/survival..we are gay at conception, we will be gay forever, even after we die...and you ca not remove that with memory!  In real life I would agree with you but this is about this show and the writers created their own reality. I was just proposing a possible reason that Zach could have been gay but now may be straight. In real life there would be no one who could mind wipe you so there is no way to test this theory or any reason to. We are who we are, warts and all! Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers.
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