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Posted by: evsdropr Jun 18 2008, 10:52 PM

Been searching all day for info in the Company's database on "The German." Came up with a few photos. Check them out below.

Posted by: FutureMuggles Jun 18 2008, 11:55 PM

Thanks EVS. Looks like the German can manipulate devices with his magnetic power - wonder if it is related to Micah's power.
The http://www.primatechpaper.com/AT_2.0/assignmentTracker.php?subject=7aed799a7ce94f78811b22f2189f4997 is a bit sparse - can you add anything?


Btw EVS, saw you hanging around the Linderman Archive thread yesterday..anything gonna happen there?

Posted by: IcanHELP Jun 19 2008, 01:26 AM

still playing with fire i see... i would be more careful my friend... someone might get mad and make you disappear... see you soon...

Posted by: PsychGen Jun 19 2008, 03:48 AM

You again? Ok. You can help, I guess.

Posted by: Brennan Jun 19 2008, 05:34 AM

lol

Posted by: themightytruk Jun 19 2008, 05:36 AM

Thanks, Evs! Nice to get a glimpse at the magnetism powers of this guy.

Posted by: evsdropr Jun 19 2008, 07:13 AM

Here's another...

Posted by: PsychGen Jun 19 2008, 07:24 AM

That looks more like light manipulation or Brian Bevingtons power than magnetism.

Posted by: BlondeGuy Jun 19 2008, 07:25 AM

Never learnt German, but I have managed to translate some of that sign using an online translator.

I can't make out the whole of the first word, it looks like ZUTRITI or something.

The 'NUR FUR BEFUGTER' has an exact translation of 'ONLY FOR AUTHORIZED'.

Will try and see if I can get a sensible translation of the first word.

EDIT: Found an online german dictionary and did a partial search for ZUTR* and the word ZUTRITT and variations of it came up, all with definitions about access and no authorisation.

So the sign reads 'ADMISSION INLY FOR AUTHORIZED'.

I don't know if that is any huge help. It kind of looks like an intercom that The German is trying to manipulate.

Posted by: PsychGen Jun 19 2008, 07:28 AM

Apparently IcanHelp may be able to help, http://boards.9thwonders.com/index.php?showtopic=63845&st=0&gopid=681691&#

Note to self: turn on spell check!

Posted by: GoldSeven Jun 19 2008, 07:29 AM

It's "Zutritt nur für Befugte", meaning "Authorized personnel only" (literally: Entry only for authorized [people]).

Just ask your resident Krauts.

Posted by: BruceAlmighty Jun 19 2008, 07:38 AM

Thanks, GoldSeven for the translation!

Thanks for the photos, EVS!

Could this be a 'Villain'? He's trying to enter an unauthorized area...

Posted by: BlondeGuy Jun 19 2008, 07:45 AM

I feel kinda redundant now, should be studying rather than trying to translate stuff...

Posted by: GoldSeven Jun 19 2008, 07:51 AM

BlondeGuy, sorry for taking your laurels away. Your approach must have been a lot more fun though.

Posted by: PsychGen Jun 19 2008, 07:52 AM

Well, at least we know who to ask for German translations...

Now, if we could just find someone that spoke Bhutanese.

Posted by: BruceAlmighty Jun 19 2008, 07:57 AM

You can always translate this one from the Thompson thread - 2ss6e71ig1en

Posted by: GoldSeven Jun 19 2008, 07:57 AM

It figured that the first German to appear in the Heroverse would be a villain.

But then, Sydney Bristow gets herself into unauthorised areas all the time...

Posted by: BlondeGuy Jun 19 2008, 08:02 AM

Haha it is okay. What needs translating from Bhutanese?

I did see that other code and will give it a go too.

Posted by: PsychGen Jun 19 2008, 09:05 AM

Oh nothing, yet...

Posted by: BruceAlmighty Jun 19 2008, 09:07 AM

I thought I had it. It was almost 'the saga begins,' but not quite.

Posted by: HERΟ Jun 19 2008, 03:39 PM

Cool. Just found this thread. Neat to see the effect of what "The German" does.

Posted by: Tarot Jun 19 2008, 06:01 PM

I'm undecided as to what this "German" bloke is up to. Getting into restricted areas is not always indicative of villainy.

Posted by: mrmichaelt Jun 19 2008, 09:03 PM

Sometimes paranoia keeps you alive. It seems like the German suspected a company has been following him, he's not the first. He may have found a facility that belongs to the Company and it probably starts with "Primatech." Perhaps in this image, the Cisco surveillance system caught him in the act and stopped the elevator. The German uses his ability to attempt to escape.

Posted by: MikeMc Jun 19 2008, 09:04 PM

True. Recall Hiro's breaking and entering into Linderman's personal art archives. Pretty sure those were "restricted" and Hiro didn't break in for villainous purposes (well, he did want to steal the sword, but he had good reason! ).

Posted by: Miles Jun 20 2008, 09:39 AM

Guess I'm to late.

I'm really glad about what's written on the sign, btw. This could really be on a german building. Most of the time when german is used in english shows (or similar) it's really bad. The last time they used it on Lost was horrible.

Posted by: Shizniddle Snap Jun 20 2008, 05:53 PM

A German with Magnetic powers..

I thought we were trying to stay separate from X-Men.

Posted by: Miles Jun 20 2008, 07:27 PM

Ah come on. Everyone with magnetic powers would have been compared to Magneto. He is just to well known. This way it's a nice homage, imho.

Posted by: MikeMc Jun 20 2008, 07:38 PM

Yea, what about Lorna Dane?

Haha...

Posted by: Synch Jun 21 2008, 06:34 PM

Ugh... if the guy ends up with any of the following names, I might hurl:

Eric
Magnus
Dane
Alex
Summers

Posted by: Dezzie Jun 21 2008, 08:35 PM

I'll insert my objections towards Erik and Magnus also. Fascinating stuff, I love this whole Company storyline, all the mystery is fun. Oh, and Magneto is Polish(I seem to remember for a while he had Gypsy blood, but that was retconned,) and Poland =/= Germany.

Posted by: Synch Jun 21 2008, 08:53 PM

Wouldn't surprise me if he was Polish, but there's nothing in Canon that I can find about Magnus' birthplace.

Posted by: Dezzie Jun 21 2008, 09:09 PM

Magneto, as is usual for a comic book character, has http://stason.org/TULARC/art/comics-xbooks/43-Is-Magneto-Jewish-or-Gypsy-Was-Joseph-Magneto.html, though I might need to take back my statement - I also found http://www.alara.net/opeople/xbooks/magjew.html(which reiterates a lot of the other source), even more complicated, I'd say.

Looks like he was a Polish Jew, but that's very subjective. I guess it might be up in the air to avoid offending any groups, people are so touchy, even an extremely(IMO) sympathetic villain like Magneto could rankle people...or something?

EDIT: Anyway, to keep back on topic! I like the idea of magnetism as a power. Might he be able to manipulate people's blood too, by the iron in it? There's a lot of potential there...

Posted by: Cornhole Jun 22 2008, 07:31 AM

I hope The German is a Villians newcomer. His power would look wicked cool in Heroes.

Posted by: MikeMc Jun 22 2008, 09:41 AM

Agreed.

Posted by: Volts Jun 22 2008, 01:30 PM

Yeah, that would be cool but I have a feeling we'll be seeing him mainly in the webisodes that begin next month.

Posted by: Truffula Jun 24 2008, 01:16 PM

Thanks for the pics, Evs! This guy looks pretty powerful.

I was just gonna say the same thing.
And those webisodes are gonna be just AWESOME!
*can't wait*

Posted by: Tarot Jun 24 2008, 05:42 PM

This guy, the "German" looks pretty dangerous to me...

Posted by: BruceAlmighty Jun 25 2008, 05:05 AM

Indeed. He has the potential to do great harm or great good. Looks like he is on the dark path for now...

Posted by: snowind Jun 25 2008, 08:25 AM

I know I'm odd... but I could see the German killing Gael and then Bianca taking the german for a two hour dive

Posted by: DJ-Anakin Jun 25 2008, 10:02 AM

It really wouldn't even take two hours.. just like.. 3 minutes... Then she could go get a sandwich. Turkey. mmmmm

Posted by: juba Jun 25 2008, 12:40 PM

The room he is in looks like the area with safe deposit boxes of a bank, so it would not be a "phone boot", but the electronic access to this area with interphone...

Posted by: Basset Jun 25 2008, 02:14 PM

Alright, I’m confused so is the German in Germany or NYC? Or is this more false data by Evs?

Posted by: MikeMc Jun 25 2008, 02:17 PM

I believe this is Germany. His tracker says that his last known location was NYC. He's either moved on from there, or, like you said, it's false data from Evs.

Posted by: Jumper Jun 25 2008, 06:57 PM

I do not like the fact that she/he is helping a murderer. Even though the Comapny does use people with abilities but if they get this guy he could be locked away for good...

Posted by: Synch Jun 25 2008, 07:12 PM

Helping? I doubt it. Using? More likely.
Let's face it, Evs is working to bring down the Company. The only way to bring down something this powerful, sneaky and dirty is to be even sneakier and dirtier.

Posted by: Timedreamer Jun 25 2008, 10:16 PM

While this is probably obvious, I feel it needs pointing out. "The German" is much like "The Haitian" in that his name remains a mystery. This could mean that it is normal to call someone by their birthplace in the company, much like it is normal to call people by their surnames.

Now, have they covered why they call the Haitian, The Haitian? Speculating here, could it be because he was mute and didn't speak his name? Would that mean that the German is similarly 'unable' to speak his name, or is it simply the Company not caring?

Off Topic: I return once more. My internet was off for a while. I still have to weave in and out. I'll be here more often, though.

I think I might side with Thompson, Jr. on this one. "Oh Thompson, Donna's got a secretttttt."

Posted by: Volts Jun 25 2008, 10:31 PM

I think it has to do with the Company not having any photos of the German, and why Evsdropr had to either show up or send someone in person to meet with the German. Since his ability is magnetism, it's probably very difficult to obtain a photograph of him and video surveillance probably just doesn't work on him. Thus, with no way to obtain his real identity, the Company decided to call him the German. He probably cannot use a cell phone or messaging device since his ability would short them out, making them permanently useless after a period of time.

Posted by: Timedreamer Jun 25 2008, 10:42 PM

Oh? I thought he was bag & tagged. I need to take another look at that assignment tracker - Thanks Volts.

Posted by: PsychGen Jun 26 2008, 07:58 AM

Last time I looked, Berlin (title of the graphic novel) was in Germany. Gael even reinforces that in the first panel.



Umm, whats Devin looking at? Where did that come from?

Posted by: Basset Jun 26 2008, 05:16 PM

My confusion comes from having 2 different sources of location info. Is he in NYC like the assignment tracker says. Or is he in Berlin as stated in the GN?

That’s why I’m confused. The sources conflict!

Posted by: PsychGen Jun 26 2008, 06:14 PM

Doh. LAST time I looked must have been a loooong time ago.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Berlin,+New+York&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3a%6ffficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&resnum=1&ct=title
Well, wadya know there is a Berlin, NY.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin,_New_York. Now that is interesting...

Considering now, that unless the GN was translated, there wasn't much German in it.

Although Bianca's "Swim the Wannsee." remark definitely puts them in Germany. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wannsee

Posted by: Vampr0se Jun 26 2008, 09:18 PM

First off, I am inclined to think that maybe we weren't meant to find The Germans profile yet. I mean, maybe they finally listened to all our whining, and were actually planning on having the profile ready and live for when they gave us his password. But, they failed to remember that we thirst for anything Heroes and have people that are constantly checking the Primetech website and what have you and will notice when anything is different. So, if we weren't meant to see the profile yet, then we can assume that anything listed in the profile can't be trusted yet. It's possible that in the next GN or so The German does indeed get bagged and tagged, which will place his last known location in NYC. I am assuming that if/when he get's caught is when we will get his assignment tracker password (which is hopefully when it will be updated). So, yes indeed, as far as the most recent GN is concerened, Gael, Bianca, Devin, The German, and perhaps Evs?, are all in Berlin, Germany. We tend to jump ahead and find things we weren't meant to find yet, and then forget that, and get the information confused with the information that tptb have in fact supplied us with. Just my view on that matter.

Posted by: Basset Jun 26 2008, 09:51 PM

Interesting opinion, I think it holds good reasoning. And besides we’re a bunch of eager beavers for anything Heroes!

Also remember the idea of a time difference/warp that’s been suggested around the board? I think that coming in to play with Evs’ posts on the German and the recent email. Because I’m thinking we’re about to see a major shake up with next GN and the German causing a big tumble for Gael and co.

Posted by: Volts Jun 26 2008, 09:52 PM

I think Evsdropr got Devin the photo of the German, along with the faulty location and time for the German's robbery. Evs got them enough info. to tempt Gael to organize a mission to stop the German. Gael, not wanting to alert Evs or anyone else, didn't enter the new info. into the Company database before going on the mission with Bianca and Devin.

Posted by: juba Jun 27 2008, 02:20 AM

Actually the ones who are in time are all British as they are now in episode 2.10, where Mohinder actually mentions a mole in the company while talking to Bob about security! If you phone now, Thompson hears you in nov.'07...

Posted by: Leek Jun 27 2008, 06:24 AM

What I want to know is why all these creepy homicidal maniacs have to come to new york to rob banks and do what ever other evil bidding they have in mind.

Posted by: PsychGen Jun 27 2008, 06:41 AM

Makes sense, I was under the impression Heroes was a BBC show before NBC got hold of it. I could be mistaken though...



Birds of feather flock together?

Posted by: HERΟ Jun 27 2008, 06:54 AM

Yeah, that would be a mistaken impression. HEROES was created by Tim here in the U.S. One Tim Kring interview you might not have seen is http://blog.9thwonders.com/modblog/2007/07/, with Damon Lindelof askin' the questions.

(You'll hafta scroll down a while to get to it...)

Posted by: BruceAlmighty Jun 27 2008, 07:40 AM

I agree, we're probably dealing with a time discrepancy again.

Posted by: Cornhole Jun 27 2008, 08:30 AM

Guys, The German wasn't in Berlin before Devin. He later arrived in a midnight train, remember? Where do you think he departed from? Possibly NYC. (Not like there's a train going to Germany in NYC, but like he was boarding more than one vehicles.)

Posted by: PsychGen Jun 27 2008, 08:57 AM

Ah the Midnight train...

Also, I can't help but wonder, how much noise is created destroying a bank vault? And no one noticed? Granted he probably disarmed the alarm, else there would be cops swarming all over the place, but wouldn't the noise be heard or, vibrations felt? What did he do about the noise?

Posted by: thepoohguy Jun 27 2008, 09:17 AM

I thought that went to Georgia, not Germany.

Posted by: Basset Jun 27 2008, 09:26 AM

Umm...not quite. The Heroes universe has timeline already set. You’ll want to take a look at Heroeswiki’s http://heroeswiki.com/Timeline. Specifically, around http://heroeswiki.com/Timeline:March_2007. It clears things up.

Posted by: Volts Jun 27 2008, 09:30 AM

Right. Small clarification is that the informant told the German that he had supplied them with faulty information, thus the German might have come by plane or an earlier train.

Posted by: PsychGen Jun 27 2008, 05:17 PM

Now I understand your question, (had to read the novel backwards, really ), Evs gave the team the wrong information. The German does not necessarily have to be in Germany but the Team is.

The cats are away, now the mouse can play.

Posted by: evsdropr Jun 27 2008, 09:00 PM

Patterson is snoopier (or more bored) than I expected. He used his PDA's camera to take some unauthorized pix of the location where the bag & tag is going to happen. I need to know what he knows.

His PDA password is four characters. If you enter the wrong password enough, you get the password hint question: "B KA****" Figure out what goes where those stars are; I'm guessing that's the PDA password.

This German is a big deal. Devin can’t be getting underfoot. Let's get into that PDA.

Posted by: Synch Jun 27 2008, 09:14 PM

Do we know Bianca's last name?

NVM

The asterisks are RINA

They finish off Bianca's last name. Bianca Karina

So... Devin was stupid enough to use his partner's name as his password?

Posted by: Volts Jun 27 2008, 10:11 PM

At first glance, it looks like Devin used his partner's name for the password. Thus, the last four letters of her last name, RINA, would appear to be the password. That would make B KARINA the complete clue with the star letters filled it.

Another possibility is LUNG, since Devin refers to his partner as "LUNG girl".

Does either password work? Can you put the PDA online somewhere and let us know so we can have at it ourselves?

Posted by: Basset Jun 27 2008, 10:12 PM

Ah ha! So the slip of paper peeking out of Devin’s bag points in the direction of a love letter.

Devin not stupid...nah...he just falls in to the common group of people who names their passwords with the people they know

Posted by: Timedreamer Jun 28 2008, 02:14 AM

I figured BKARINA and was rushing to the boards to post it - but it seems I was beat to it.

Now that it's down though, I am questioning it. I find EVS Dropper to be rather intelligent. I don't think he would have had trouble if it was simply BKARINA. 'I can lead people to their death and tape guns to a table anonymously, but I can't figure out BKARINA. Please help me.' Oh that would be funny...

Edit: Oh, forgot to mention. BKA is an abbreviation for "Better known as".

EVS Dropper: Is it BKALAMT? As in, Federal Criminal Police Office in Germany? In the language of Germany, the FCPO is known as BKA for it's german name, Bundeskriminalamt. Funny coincidence, isn't it?

EDIT3: Third and last edit, EVS Dropper. Looking on the telephone, one finds the star key. On the star key is the word 'tone'. That is four letters. BKATONE? Try that.

Posted by: juba Jun 28 2008, 03:15 AM

Is'nt it Devin's PDA and password? Anyway, RINA works fine. Interestingly I find a date "6.2008"!

Posted by: PsychGen Jun 28 2008, 06:02 AM

Evs needs to know what Patterson Knows? Interesting statement from someone who should be in the same place watching the same person..

And the date, what does that do to the timeline?

Posted by: thepoohguy Jun 28 2008, 06:24 AM

WAIT a minute. Can someone explain to me how EVS was able to enter the wrong password on the PDA? without him knowing? Obviously he entered the wrong password enought times to get to the password hint question.

Posted by: PsychGen Jun 28 2008, 06:56 AM

Certainly cripples the part of my theory that says Evs is tech savvy...
Also seems to throw Evs location in a spin.

I mean (t)He(y) are suposedly keeping tabs on the team, (t)He(y) gave the team false information, yet it seems Devin has the right info if he is at the Germans apartment taking pictures and, (t)He(y) need to know what Devin is up to. At the same time (t)He(y) gave the German info on the team. (t)He(y) also can't solve a simple password hint? With that much clue and the answer being so obvious, Sabine's message to Julien comes to mind. Using ones partners name or ability as a password runs in this company.

As for how many tries? Guess that depends on the PDA, and the app that was requesting the password. Once is enough, three to five is more common, some never mention there is a hint.

Posted by: MarqueDeCain Jun 28 2008, 07:15 AM

Why EVS, because he must be exposed and eliminated? Which side are you working for now?

Posted by: Citizen Jun 28 2008, 07:24 AM

Whoa whoa whoa, no need to get pushy on the guy.

Posted by: PsychGen Jun 28 2008, 08:07 AM

Now we know Devin has been in the German's apartment. Could explain where he got the picture. Maybe, Gael and Bianca don't know what the German looks like.

Devin apparently got information from a source other than what (t)He(y) supplied. Hence the surprise and need for Evs to know what is on Devin's PDA.

Posted by: The Dark Saint Jun 28 2008, 08:30 AM

Try the words r i n a. As in Bianca Karina. His partner.

Posted by: themightytruk Jun 28 2008, 08:52 AM

Good job, guys. RINA seems right, though a bit simple for a password. We'll see if it gets Evs into the PDA. Wonder if he'll share the photos with us too, or just keep them to himself.

Posted by: Volts Jun 28 2008, 09:02 AM

What is the German word at the top of the picture? Stra*zette? (the * character looks to be an I or P, but can't really tell). It'd be nice to know if that was the expiration date of his VISA (my best guess since it is in German...), a tax return, Company report or something else entirely.

Regardless of what it is, the date on the file doesn't have to mean anything. If it is confirmation of a June 2008 date it just means the paper got written in June 2008, and that Evsdropr is still around in June 2008. The Berlin mission could still take place almost anytime.


Check out the German's assignment tracker. There's a link to the PDA in the personal history. Enter the password RINA and you can access a photo album on it. The 16 pictures there are what we're discussing now.

Posted by: Citizen Jun 28 2008, 09:12 AM

We need a German translator to fully understand the photographs.

Posted by: Volts Jun 28 2008, 09:15 AM

Do we really know that is the German's apartment? I have my doubts.

My initial thought on the PDA photos is that they are of the location where Devin expects the German to show up. I originally thought that Evs would give Devin, Gael and Bianca the wrong bank. Instead, it looks like he gave them the wrong apartment. I still think the photo he has in the van came with the faulty lead Evs has supplied to them, and was not taken by Devin.

Posted by: Saichiiro Jun 28 2008, 09:16 AM

The word is "Strafzettel". It meen "parking ticket" in English.

Posted by: MikeMc Jun 28 2008, 09:17 AM

I had 3 years of German back in high school, but I'm not sure I can read all those photos... that, and the handwritten ones with the resolution of the pics makes it hard to read, as well...

one of them is a shopping list, though. "einkaufszettel".. milk (milch), some kind of t-shirt... can't read the rest...

EDIT:

A couple of those are directions, like from mapquest or something. It's the two computerized lists. You can tell without kowing German by looking at the right side, where it has distances. Anyone who's used mapquest should recognize that.

The 4th photo in, on the top says "bank on/around 3rd street" (it's the underlined statement)

Not that it matters too much, but the lat/long coordinates confirm that it's in Berlin.

Posted by: GoldSeven Jun 28 2008, 09:22 AM

If anyone can give me a link, I'll help.

Edit: Oh, I just saw Saichiiro there.

Posted by: MikeMc Jun 28 2008, 09:29 AM

http://www.primatechpaper.com/AT_2.0/at_C014_file.php
password: rina

Posted by: juba Jun 28 2008, 09:33 AM

Einkaufszettel
Eier
Milch
ZiegenkäseT-Shirt
Schweineschnitzel
Rotkohl
?
Kartoffelsalat

More interesting the letter: It looks like some cousin asked for money:

Posted by: juba Jun 28 2008, 09:39 AM

At least it is from somebody who planned to rob a bank in Munich (Marienplatz) where he notes: "Easy escape route by subway" around 700 m, and another one from a bank in third floor...

Posted by: Volts Jun 28 2008, 09:40 AM

Cool. Thanks for the translation. So 06/2008 would be the expiration of the license plate. Looks like Bianca got a parking ticket while in Germany, and that the mission took place sometime between 06/2007 and 06/2008.

Posted by: FutureMuggles Jun 28 2008, 09:49 AM

First is a shopping list:
- Eggs
- Milk
- Goats cheese
- ?
- ? T-shirt
- Pork chops
- Red cabbage
-?
- Potato salad.
- Mustard
- Juice

Second a begging letter:
We haven't spoken to each other for a long time. I heard that you have made some money and I urgently need your help, more than ever before, dear Cousin. I lost my job in the factory not long ago and Ada? is pregnant. I really don't want it to look like I can't feed my family. Would you be so friendly and send us some money so that we can keep our heads above water in these difficult times? A couple of thousand Euro would be more than enough.

I promise I will pay the money back, I'll be forever thankful.

Best regards
(signature looks like Zara?)

Posted by: themightytruk Jun 28 2008, 09:59 AM

Didn't realize the German's assignment tracker was updated. Cool. Thanks for the translations so far. Interesting stuff. Sounds like there's more to the German than his appearance in the GN seemed to indicate.

Posted by: Saichiiro Jun 28 2008, 09:59 AM

I've add the missing words. It's nothing special at all.

And a little bit more from myself:
Pic with the buildings:
Bank at the 9th floor

Left side text:
Two watchman in civil infront of the building

I can't read the rest of it...

Pic after the shooping list:
Text on it: "Der verdammte (?) Hund, ich weiss nicht was er wirklich will"
"The damn dog, I don't know what he really want.

btw. I'll not work for you Evs.

Posted by: FutureMuggles Jun 28 2008, 10:06 AM

I would guess it's the German's parking ticket.
It has the same address on it as in photo #5 (Karl Lander? Platz 1141) in the letter from his cousin. So this must be his cousin's address.

Posted by: GoldSeven Jun 28 2008, 10:11 AM

The third pic shows a white booard on which is written, "bank on the 4th floor, two guards in ? or around the building... surveillance (the rest is too blurry to make out)

On the shopping list, it says "schwarzes T-Shirt", black t-shirt. Under the potato salad, it says "Senf", mustard. I can't read the word starting with S either.

Two clicks on, that's a print-out from an online route planner, it looks as if it was from around Berlin to Erfurt in Thüringen OR Frankfurt am Main, which is very odd. Erfurt is southeast from Berlin, Frankfurt is southwest. Then, two more clicks on, we encounter place names like Giessen and Wiesbaden, which places the destination in Hessen (around Frankfurt).

Next is a photo with the bank on it again and metions of "U-Bahn" (Subway) and escape routes.

The name of the pregnant woman in the coffee-stained letter looks like "Ada" (which is odd).

Ah, Saichiiro beat me to it

Posted by: FutureMuggles Jun 28 2008, 10:18 AM

The bank transfer slip in pic 9 has a scribbled out sort code of 1234 859 00.
This doesn't correspond to any bank in Germany. Maybe something for later?

Posted by: juba Jun 28 2008, 10:20 AM

Actually third floor... maybe also in Munich as the http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marienplatz_%28München%29 with "Bankfiliale" and "Easy escape by subway"

Posted by: Leek Jun 28 2008, 10:24 AM

That German was gunna be a superstar...but he didn't get far...




Thanks for the tip Evs



Nice solve Synch

Posted by: Citizen Jun 28 2008, 10:28 AM

I was gonna work on translating the legible stuff but looks like you guys beat me to it

So the German is doing this for his financially-troubled cousin and his family. I don't understand though. Supposedly the informant fed the agents false info so why would Devin be able to find the German's apartment?

Posted by: Saichiiro Jun 28 2008, 10:31 AM

Well, I don't know.
It's written like a "9" or maybe a "4", but I don't think that's a "3". If it is a "3", then a terrible one.
(I thought my handwriting is bad. )

Posted by: PsychGen Jun 28 2008, 10:33 AM

Better, how do we know it's Devins PDA? Just 'cause (t)He(y) said? I mean, seems strange even the menus on the PDA are in German too...Perhaps Bianca and the German are connected..

Posted by: Leek Jun 28 2008, 10:36 AM

So do we have all the legible writing translated? We should try to compile it into one post for those coming late or what not.

Posted by: PsychGen Jun 28 2008, 10:46 AM

How about a new thread, The Germans PDA?

Posted by: MikeMc Jun 28 2008, 10:49 AM

I was thinking the same thing...

Posted by: PsychGen Jun 28 2008, 10:59 AM

Yet, it's in the Germans AT file...

Posted by: Timedreamer Jun 28 2008, 12:22 PM

Ah, I was confused for a moment as to who 'Ich' was. Apparently 'Ich' is 'I' in german. Speaking of names, Ada is a genus of 16 species in the orchid family (So says the Gift of Wiki).

EDIT: Have we solved the picture that looks like a list, with numbers all along it? It's different than the shopping list. I get an 'important vibe' from it. (Watch, it's going to be a list of chores...>>)

Posted by: FutureMuggles Jun 28 2008, 12:37 PM

Darn it, I was translating too fast! I corrected my original post as it's the only translation on here. Thanks Timedreamer

The other list is a route planner. I get several letters which look like they are highlighted in blue. Probably nothing.

Posted by: Zik Jun 28 2008, 01:22 PM

Anyone else notice that the thumbnail for the first picture looks like a guy looking off to the side.

Posted by: Cornhole Jun 28 2008, 02:12 PM

Sooooooooooo, maybe The German robbed the bank because his lovely lovely cousin needed money? Maybe this cold-hearted murderer is not so one-dimensional killer after all.

Posted by: Volts Jun 28 2008, 06:13 PM

Bianca's name appears partially scratched out on the parking ticket. Devin probably either stole the PDA from an apartment or bought one in Germany himself (the latter is more likely, imho). Either way, it looks like Devin kept it so it's essentially his PDA now.


The German killed multiple people at the bank... I doubt he did so just to help his lovely cousin. In fact, I think the letter and the apartment is part of the setup arranged by evsdropr.

Posted by: PsychGen Jun 28 2008, 07:00 PM

IMHO The German is like most men, is driven by greed. That we find a letter that tugs at the heart is purely coincidental.

Posted by: Synch Jun 28 2008, 07:06 PM

If you're talking about Bianca, I don't see them as related. Bianca is Romanian and Karina is Russian. Neither hint at a German element.

Posted by: Timedreamer Jun 28 2008, 07:16 PM

PsychGen, my dear friend, surely you don't mean only men?

Posted by: PsychGen Jun 28 2008, 07:19 PM

Ok Hu-men.. sheesh.

Posted by: thepoohguy Jun 28 2008, 08:14 PM

At the top of the page it says:

Predict - Tracking Oscar - 27

Anyone think Oscar is the German's first name?

Posted by: Volts Jun 28 2008, 08:31 PM

Sorry, I have to nix that idea, but OSCAR 27 is the name of the satellite doing the tracking.

Find out more at http://www.amsat.org/amsat/sats/n7hpr/history.html. The details are http://www.amsat.org/amsat/sats/n7hpr/ao27.html.

OSCAR stands for Oribiting Satellites Carrying Amateur Radio.

The main part of note:


Thus, the satellite telemetry for Devin's PDA is related to this.

Posted by: Tarot Jun 28 2008, 09:28 PM

That's good to know. Thanks, Volts.

Posted by: Volts Jun 28 2008, 11:08 PM

You're welcome.

I've added a brief listing of Devin's so-called evidence at Heroes Wiki.
View the listing at http://heroeswiki.com/Assignment_Tracker_2.0#Devin.27s_PDA
View a complete gallery of the images at http://heroeswiki.com/Assignment_Tracker_2.0/Devin%27s_PDA.

Unless someone beats me to it (please do), I'll work on adding some of the translations tomorrow.

Posted by: HERΟ Jun 28 2008, 11:46 PM

Way to go, ED!

Pick times to post stuff when a majority of the people who might be interested in these new developments might wanna participate next time. For people in the U.S., ya posted Friday night/Saturday mornin'...

(Not that I can talk, though this post is the exception - I got a fun sneezin' fit which woke me up - maybe allergies from bein' at the lake yesterday...)

Posted by: Timedreamer Jun 29 2008, 12:09 AM

It is times like these that make me proud to have http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_Sleep_Phase_Syndrome

Posted by: juba Jun 29 2008, 02:19 AM

The position 53,30N 13,25E leads to Ludwigfelde south of Berlin, but the zoom image approaches the "Gendarmenmarkt" you put on the "Berlin, Germany" page...

Posted by: FutureMuggles Jun 29 2008, 03:00 AM

I don't think that's Bianca's name. The word before is probably Kennzeichen (vehicle registration number) and the B is for Berlin. But I agree this is Devin's PDA and these are pictures taken on a recon of the German's apartment.


ED: I found a wierdy - on http://heroeswiki.com/Image%3a%44evin_PDA07.jpg of the magazine, there is a note scribbled in pen, but in http://heroeswiki.com/Image%3a%44evin_PDA02.jpg of the same magazine there's no annotation. Did Devin go on a recon mission twice?

Thanks for uploading all the photos Volts, makes referencing much easier.

Posted by: droxnar711 Jun 29 2008, 12:11 PM

This could be nothing, or it could be something big.

I noticed there was a newspaper underneath the PDA when it faded in. It has a pic of a man. Could this be the German or EVS? I made a screen cap (it was the best I could catch) if any of our translators want to give the visible parts a shot.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3174/2621509647_13ec7078d6_b.jpg
Also, on the parking ticket, it looks like numbers are scribbled out after the B. 522906 maybe?

Posted by: GoldSeven Jun 29 2008, 08:43 PM

The headline says "Label aus dem Ne...", "Labels from the ...".

The sub-header says, "A hitherto inconspicuous phenomenon creates a counter-culture..."

The news article on the left is music/entertainment related. It's about Netlabels, netlag parties and German netlabel Pulsar Station.

Which makes it highly likely that the article on the right is on the same topic, and it could be that he headline is "Label aus dem Netz", "labels from the web/internet".

Posted by: GoldSeven Jun 30 2008, 12:22 AM

And NOW I feel like Sherlock Holmes: It is, in fact, http://www.berlinonline.de/berliner-zeitung/archiv/.bin/dump.fcgi/2006/0201/berlinkultur/0076/index.html, dated Feb 1, 2006. At the bottom of the article, it says that the person int he photo is DJ Troy Pierce.

In other words, I don't think this helps us.

Posted by: FutureMuggles Jun 30 2008, 01:39 AM

Awesome, not only do we get the text but the actual copy. GS ist eine Superschnuefflerin!
And credit to the creators for finding a Berlin newspaper too.

Posted by: droxnar711 Jun 30 2008, 05:07 AM

AH well, worth a shot, eh?

Thanks for the translation and the digging!

Posted by: Saichiiro Jun 30 2008, 05:07 AM

I think it's only "B-F2-90" or "B-52-90"... don't know, maybe with a "6" at the end or not.




lol
That's cool.
Maybe Troy Pierce is Evs.
Or maybe... it has nothing to do with everything.

Posted by: juba Jun 30 2008, 07:28 AM

except the date of the newspaper! 1.2.07 — but then all this might be the misleading evsformation...

Posted by: GoldSeven Jun 30 2008, 07:32 AM

It was 2006, not 2007, though...

Posted by: HERΟ Jun 30 2008, 10:07 AM

New text:

Got in Patterson's PDA. Found some doc photos. I linked the footage 2 the German's Assignment Tracker. Anything useful? 1-800-PRIMA16, same passcode as before

So, ED can mess with the AT... Either a hacker or technically-skilled.

Also, the link to the swf is http://www.primatechpaper.com/AT_2.0/images/profiles/at_C014_file.swf, with "RINA" as the password - just reiteratin' it.

Posted by: DJ-Anakin Jun 30 2008, 03:04 PM

I've added some of your translations, with credit, to the HeroesARG post about these latest developments. http://www.heroesarg.com/main/2008/06/30/patterson-and-his-pda. I've also capped the images from the PDA.. then added the translations there.

Posted by: Saichiiro Jun 30 2008, 03:40 PM

Thanks for that!
And... well, a little bit of the translations was from me, too.

Posted by: HERΟ Jun 30 2008, 04:04 PM

Just addin' the associated email with the text:

Bianca Karina was the PDA password, huh? Sometimes it's the simple things. Think Patterson has eyes for his partner? That might be useful. Maybe not.
I'm looking at the footage I got of Patterson's PDA. He shot some pics of a desk, apparently the German's, although I don't recognize all the info. See if you can piece together anything useable before the Company does. I posted the surveillance of Patterson's PDA on the German's Assignment Tracker for now. Check it out at http://www.primatechpaper.com/AT_2.0/at_C014_file.php.

Really, ED, you could have figured out Devin's password...

Posted by: juba Jun 30 2008, 09:54 PM

Really?! At that time Mohinder was still in India ;-) How about the car keys? Issan I suppose... a Vanette?

Posted by: Vampr0se Jun 30 2008, 10:25 PM

Can I just say, I love that you are calling Evs ED now. I think it's great. From now on, that is how I am going to refer to him/her as well. You rock HERO!

Posted by: Volts Jun 30 2008, 10:30 PM

The newspaper only tells us this storyline is taking place sometime after Feb. 1, 2006, not that it was then. The parking ticket, however, has what is likely a license plate exp of 06 2008, meaning now for the story is sometime between 6/2007 and 6/2008.

A few other notes...

1) Based on evsdropr's last e-mail and the photos I'm starting to think the apartment was actually the German's.

2) I'm semi-confident that the parking ticket is from when the German or a helper delivered the money to the cousin in the letter.

3) The couple on the park bench is likely the cousin and the money deliverer.

Hopefully, only 30 minutes to go till part 2.

Posted by: juba Jul 1 2008, 04:57 AM

Rather not, what a mess in his appartement, no white sofa with round table...

Posted by: PsychGen Jul 1 2008, 07:50 AM

And the mystery about the PDA deepens. Sure, Ed said it was Devins. Ed said the pictures were from the Germans Apt. Either the German trashed it going after his gun, which I doubt, or this PDA don't belong to Devin or, the German. Devin's been eliminated so, he can't verify ownership or, content. How convenient for Ed.

Posted by: MikeMc Jul 1 2008, 08:06 AM

For those who were confused at The German's location, his AT has been updated to say his last known location was Berlin, Germany.

Nothing else on there has been updated, though...

Not yet, anyway...

Posted by: Synch Jul 1 2008, 09:33 AM

Actually, he/she didn't. Evs said the photos came from "the crime scene."

Posted by: Timedreamer Jul 1 2008, 07:02 PM

You're so good at seeing small discrepancies like that. Good work, Synch!

This is my first time using the word discrepancy so forgive me if I've misused it!

Posted by: Synch Jul 1 2008, 07:07 PM

Okay. I was wrong. Here's the post: http://boards.9thwonders.com/index.php?showtopic=63853&view=findpost&p=684705

Patterson took pics of the place "the bag & tag is going to happen."

I'm not sure, but I don't think it's the apartment where the B&T actually did happen.

Posted by: Timedreamer Jul 1 2008, 07:30 PM

Oh dear, now I seem sarcastic. I really thought you noticed something we didn't.

Posted by: Synch Jul 1 2008, 07:39 PM

Not really. I knew what you meant- and I've said the same thing to people who noted something I missed.

Still, this is not the area Evs says the photos were taken. Look at the upper right panel on page 2 of actual art (I think page 2. It's the same panel that has the message.)

This is either Gael's house, or a motel he's staying at. The German broke in. This is definitely not where the B&T was supposed to go down.

Posted by: PsychGen Jul 1 2008, 07:41 PM

Are you saying Evs has become a victim of his own mis-information?

Posted by: Timedreamer Jul 1 2008, 07:43 PM

On an unrelated note, new insults for EVS! I was talking to PsychGen and she was mentioning how funny it was that he needed help with Devin's PDA. So I said EVS = Oblivious. and OBLVS Dropper. XD XD ok, maybe I'm the only one laughing but that's okay.

Posted by: Synch Jul 1 2008, 07:50 PM

No. I think Evs sent German after Gael.

I think Evs is worried Patterson saw something at the site where the B&T was supposed to happen.

Posted by: Basset Jul 1 2008, 10:26 PM

So now what that the German’s been knocked out? Is it gonna put a crimp in your plans E.D.?

Posted by: Synch Jul 1 2008, 11:29 PM

I obviously can't speak for Evs, but I doubt it. I think Evs is doing a Darwinian thinning of the ranks- possibly to have the best possible core group left when he/she finally attempts the coup that I think is in the planning.

The German was weak. Thus the German fell. And Bianca may have put herself in the brackets for a recruiting attempt.

Posted by: Basset Jul 1 2008, 11:45 PM

That got me thinking...I think E.D. has more up his/her/their sleeves. Cause Donna said that she’s going to do things her way and that hasn’t stopped E.D.’s schemes yet. Last week’s email was a good indicator. So, it’s more of a wait and see thing.


I wouldn’t say the German was weak. I’d go with more overconfident with the gun and just having a very flashy destructive power. And Bianca effectively out maneuvered him (very cool on her part IMHO ).

Posted by: DJ-Anakin Jul 2 2008, 01:48 PM

I agree. He was cocky. Which made him sloppy. Plus the whole bloodthirsy, trigger-happy thing.

Posted by: FutureMuggles Jul 2 2008, 01:48 PM

EVS is making quite an effort to get the German (see http://boards.9thwonders.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=63939&view=findpost&p=686250)

But there are so many others he/she can use, why go for this guy - what will the German do to help take down the Company? Take out the power?

Posted by: Tarot Jul 3 2008, 05:38 PM

I've wondered since they captured him in the GN if Evs had planned on getting the German captured. Since the email about helping to get the plane up safely I'm even more leaning in that direction. Granted the last major theory I came up with went down in flames. Let's see how this pans out.

Posted by: Jumper Jul 3 2008, 08:40 PM

Did anyone notice that right before the German pinned Gael to the wall there was a note in an open portfilo saying: Palmer...West Virgina...Procced?

Posted by: Synch Jul 3 2008, 09:32 PM

Yeah. We're still waiting for Evs, or someone, to tell us what it means.

Posted by: RiddlerHanjinome Jul 3 2008, 11:41 PM

Yeah, I was the first to post it in the comic thread. Which never seems to happen.

Posted by: thepoohguy Jul 4 2008, 12:38 PM

My guess, he is part of the Killing Squad. Stay tuned for the GN on Monday.

Posted by: GreenDragon Jul 4 2008, 06:14 PM

you are probably right...

Posted by: FutureMuggles Jul 11 2008, 04:08 PM

The http://www.primatechpaper.com/AT_2.0/assignmentTracker.php?subject=7aed799a7ce94f78811b22f2189f4997 Assignment Tracker was updated again.
Now we know a bit more about what happened after the flight back to the US. Looks like he didn't escape after all...

From the Psychological Profile:
As a result of the subject's initial counter-strategy upon regaining consciousness after retrieval -- see CSIR-0704 for facilities impact report -- the subject has been maintained under Class IV sedation while additional measures are implemented to facilitate further communication. [Sentence Omitted: Classified]

Posted by: HERΟ Jul 11 2008, 04:18 PM

Thanks for the scoop about the update! So, we haven't gotten an answer from evs, but we're supposedly watching this happenin' in our real time, and not the time set in the HEROES 'verse?

(Explanation o' sorts - 'cuz by the time it's summer of 2008 in the HEROES 'verse, in a few seasons of bein' on the air, the Company may have changed...)

Posted by: themightytruk Jul 11 2008, 04:18 PM

Thanks for pointing out the update, FutureMuggles!

Good to finally get a bit more on the German. So he's called the German because witnesses noticed the accent. Also interesting to hear how the Company is keeping him.

Also, there's an error in the profile. It says "mid-are" when it should be mid-air.

Posted by: HERΟ Jul 11 2008, 04:29 PM

So, does anyone think, instead of havin' some magnetic ability, The German is just a thief and gets by with http://www.scifi.com/eureka/madeineureka/main.swf (click on the hand that looks like it has repulsor tech on it)?

Posted by: MikeMc Jul 11 2008, 09:05 PM

Interesting site you found there... I'd like to get me one of those nifty Snatch It things...

Posted by: Kemo91 Jul 15 2008, 10:17 AM

New Text! Hopefully the mods can move this if it's in the wrong place

Guess we're not done with the German yet

Posted by: themightytruk Jul 15 2008, 10:26 AM

Yeah. The update http://www.primatechpaper.com/AT_2.0/assignmentTracker.php?subject=7aed799a7ce94f78811b22f2189f4997 was noticed a few days ago.

Don't see anything new since then, but I wonder if more will be added to it soon.

Posted by: Kemo91 Jul 15 2008, 10:34 AM

Oh ok, thank you!

Maybe EVS will update the profile again sometime today

Posted by: GreenDragon Jul 15 2008, 01:32 PM

New E-mail:

Posted by: Basset Jul 15 2008, 07:40 PM

I guess I’m missing the obvious too...

So far in the Personal history, the Company misspelled air (it’s mid-air not mid-are), and the German killed Patterson with that fancy sub-machine gun.

In the Psych profile: “...the subject inflicted bodily and extraneous property damage only when necessary to achieve primary objectives...” doesn’t sound right. The German says, “Incorrect. You get in my way, I kill everyone.”

What am I missing?

Posted by: FutureMuggles Jul 15 2008, 11:47 PM

Good point Basset. But I guess we may assume that EVS can manipulate people beyond their usual rational drives.
Perhaps this is EVS power, another Eden? "You get in my way, I kill everyone" That even sounds like an implanted suggestion.

Posted by: Ion Jul 16 2008, 03:11 AM

Has anyone clicked on the "Evidence" link? If so, are we aware of what the pase code is for the PDA type device on the page?

Posted by: RiddlerHanjinome Jul 16 2008, 03:48 AM

R I N A

Posted by: Ion Jul 16 2008, 03:50 AM

Thanks

Posted by: Basset Jul 16 2008, 05:47 PM

@FutureMuggles

I've thought it over a little, and I'm guessing the emails that E.D. might be saying what actually being said. Despite the German's sedation, he'll eventually cause the Company some more trouble.

In other words, we're looking to deep in to it >.<;

Posted by: FutureMuggles Jul 17 2008, 08:55 AM

Looking too deep is why half of us post on here
I agree with you, the German's story still has another chapter in it. It looks like he will be the one who releases the "villians" from level 5. Which means EVS scheme regarding the German has worked so far (with our help ).

EDIT: Just reread EVS last text;
Fools. They've made an art of overlooking the obvious. The German has a few surprises up his sleeve yet...

In his Assignment Tracker it says,
The German used extreme force to penetrate physical security measures, tearing bank vault doors in half and blasting holes through reinforced steel walls.

I guess that's what EVS meant. Mission accomplished.

Posted by: HERΟ Jul 17 2008, 09:08 AM

Can someone refresh my memory about this? What useful stuff was gleaned from the pics? Do we need to figure out steganography?

Posted by: Basset Jul 17 2008, 04:17 PM

There's too deep and then there's too deep. I think we're far from it

Posted by: PsychGen Jul 17 2008, 04:37 PM

I was wondering the same thing myself. Perhaps it was just candy for the masses. Something to play with. I think it kind of stalled out when questions were raised about who's PDA it was. If Devins, why is it in the Germans ATP? If the Germans, why RINA as the password? Why the pictures? Was his cousin important? If Devins, why were the menus in German?

Then again as I believe you pointed out, it shows us Ed can manipulate the AT...

Posted by: MikeMc Jul 17 2008, 08:43 PM

I don't know what you're talking about...

Posted by: NorthHammer Jul 18 2008, 07:17 AM

Has anyone found a solution for the whole "German flight" thing?

Posted by: themightytruk Jul 18 2008, 07:28 AM

The German flight logic puzzle got solved the day the e-mail went out.

Posted by: HERΟ Jul 18 2008, 07:29 AM

Yep:

Posted by: HERΟ Aug 4 2008, 03:18 PM

That would be funny (in a Monty Python and the Holy Grail sorta way) if The German said that there were some who called him http://www.carbuyersnotebook.com/archives/2007/03/porsche_entry_n.htm...

Posted by: GoldSeven Aug 4 2008, 11:16 PM

Timo is the name of my son. O.o