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post Feb 20 2009, 12:38 AM
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I want someone from NBC to complete this sentence: "I think the viewer ratings in Heroes are __________, and that means we'll _________."

Otherwise, they're just numbers that don't make any sense.


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post Feb 20 2009, 07:27 AM
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It sure would be nice to get inside the heads of the NBC bigwigs, but I don't believe that the numbers don't make sense without their input. Cancellations, budget cuts, shifts to another network, these are all things we can only guess at. But if the ratings are going down, that's bad, and if they're going up, that's good. We know that for sure.

I see the numbers going down and start to worry. A lot of terrific shows have been axed during the short time I've been an "intelligent viewer," and right now Heroes is, in my opinion, less than terrific, so I'm that much more anxious as to its fate. Guess I'm just the fretting type - I envy those of you who aren't, though.
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post Feb 20 2009, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE (GoldSeven @ Feb 20 2009, 12:38 AM) *
I want someone from NBC to complete this sentence: "I think the viewer ratings in Heroes are __________, and that means we'll _________."

Otherwise, they're just numbers that don't make any sense.


I'll look in to this.

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post Feb 20 2009, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE (conspiracytheory @ Feb 20 2009, 10:27 AM) *
It sure would be nice to get inside the heads of the NBC bigwigs, but I don't believe that the numbers don't make sense without their input. Cancellations, budget cuts, shifts to another network, these are all things we can only guess at. But if the ratings are going down, that's bad, and if they're going up, that's good. We know that for sure.

I see the numbers going down and start to worry. A lot of terrific shows have been axed during the short time I've been an "intelligent viewer," and right now Heroes is, in my opinion, less than terrific, so I'm that much more anxious as to its fate. Guess I'm just the fretting type - I envy those of you who aren't, though.


Part of me worries and yet part of me doesn't. It seems that the ratings dont really count for much when taking into consideration the various ways the show can be viewed. Still it makes me worry that the show might be cancelled which would be a shame because IMO Vol 4 has improved in quality so much from Vol.3 and I liked the "villians" arc. Every show hits a slump( 24 did, Lost did,) but it's how you come back that matter, though networks are too quick to cancel shows before they get that chance.

Plus I dread the thought of only being left with garbage like American Idol and other reality tv. I live in reality I don't need to watch it on tv.
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post Feb 20 2009, 10:16 AM
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I wonder how much the Evolutions content viewing/participation factors into everything. Obviously, if the show is increasingly good to the hardcore fans, we're more likely to go online and check out all that stuff which is good for the advertisers.. How much do they monitor site traffic and make descisions based on that?


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post Feb 22 2009, 06:23 PM
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I'm doing an experiment. Does anyone have the Nielson ratings for episodes 3.01, 3.02, and 3.05?

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post Feb 23 2009, 08:05 AM
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I've got the overnights, if that's what you're looking for:

3.01 and 3.02 were both on 09/22 (it was a two hour premiere); they did 10.22 and 9.57, respectively.

3.05 aired on 10/13 and pulled in 8.63 million.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/09/23/ratin...bc-cbs-nbc/5257
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/14/monda...lead-night/6155

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post Feb 23 2009, 08:08 AM
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3x01 - 10.09
3x02 - 9.57
3x05 - 8.80


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post Feb 23 2009, 08:18 AM
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Oh noes, discrepancy!

Here be mine sources:
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/09/23/ratin...bc-cbs-nbc/5257
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/14/monda...lead-night/6155
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post Feb 23 2009, 09:51 AM
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Can you expand on what your experiment entails, PBN?


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post Feb 23 2009, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE (conspiracytheory @ Feb 23 2009, 08:18 AM) *


Mine source : WIKIPEDIA biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

P.S. While I was writing my post, you posted yours...so if I have seen your post earlier I wouldn't post mine smile.gif

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post Feb 23 2009, 11:29 AM
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I know numbers are important for a show's survival, but I'm honestly not worried about anything. After all, worry does nothing than create negative thinking and things like that.


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post Feb 23 2009, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE (Citizen @ Feb 23 2009, 09:51 AM) *
Can you expand on what your experiment entails, PBN?


Making visual representations (bar graphs) of the ratings and the fan "approval" ratings for each episode this season, with "approval" being defined as the percentage of ratings of 4 or 5 on the episode polls.
Then seeing if there is any correlation between ratings and fan ratings, and if there are any patterns or trends that might give us some hints as to the show's future.

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post Feb 24 2009, 01:31 AM
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I just wanted to point this out, from Beeman's column:Greg Beeman Back in June we were shooting as many days as needed to complete episodes. But by December a much stricter budget mandate had come down from NBC/Universal. Ever since episode #15 we had to do our episodes in ten days and hit a specific budget number – no “if “ “ands” or “buts.”
I've been reading his blog since S3 started and loved the insight and candor within. But the way he casually mentions things that involve waste has been driving me nuts, making me think it's a universal problem involving the entire crew. I am not involved with the series, know nothing about filmaking, nor claim to be smarter than the average empty wine glass, but for him to specifically point out where their "do whatever you want" blank-check agreement ran out, and have that not be one of the many noticeable detours of the likeability of the series is quite telling, to me. He complains how limiting it was to shoot in fewer locations, MEANWHILE, the performances by the actors portraying the characters we love were better than ever!! I mean, seriously, am I the Lone Ranger here, or is someone else sensing a disconnect?
I say cut the budget down even more, stop with the "blank checks" and hire people who don't even notice 'cause they love the material they're shooting! (seriously, Peter stomps on HRG's stolen ride and says: HI!! That's a MILLION times better than some lengthy, nosebleed battle with a Vault door that he should have Phased through!)


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post Feb 24 2009, 09:46 AM
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The episode last night got it's lowest ratings EVER.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/02/24/monda...n-for-fox/13349

6 million viewers for a show that use to pull 14 million and it's only season three?! Yea, this isn't gonna last folks.

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post Feb 24 2009, 09:55 AM
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Just noticed it and got a screencap (gonna make a slideshow like the HEROES TAMi numbers eventually)... That's a bummer.

Hopefully gettin' under 7 million viewers (according to the Nielsen ratings) isn't a bad thing for those who decide at nbc.

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post Feb 24 2009, 09:59 AM
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Dreadful, those numbers; and it won't get any better next week with the Bachelor finale and a 2-hour 24, then Dancing w/the Has-Beens the week after that from then until May. Series-low 18-49 rating for last night.

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post Feb 24 2009, 10:13 AM
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Yep. With Dancing w/ the Stars starting up in two weeks, that's the death kneel. If the show can't even get higher then 6 mill when DWTS isn't airing, what do they expect it's going to do when it's on against it?

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post Feb 24 2009, 10:55 AM
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I can't belive it! 6.92 mill! sad.gif sad.gif
I think we will not see next season of Heroes sad.gif
Chuck is also in big cupcakes. but it is more cheaper than Heroes sad.gif
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post Feb 24 2009, 10:58 AM
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WOOHOO! Cancellation, here we go!


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Id wish (here we go add this to my christmas list Santaw00t.gif ) they would switch chuck and heroes to other nights like flip the biggest loser on tuesday with chuck and heroes or something it would put them in a less competitive place i mean there is only so many viewers to divide across so many. plus pitting 2 major drama series against eachother like 24 and heroes will force people that love drama to watch one of the two while it broadcasts... blink.gif I would hate it if heroes got canceld. invisible.gif

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this is just..

Yea.

Another show with so much potential.. I still believe that we'll see some massive overhauling before the shows end; NBC has already put too much money into the show for it to only have what, eight more episodes?

This just really bites. They need to find a way to get people watching the show again. That way they can see for themselves that it is in fact getting better.


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post Feb 24 2009, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE (MewtRandell @ Feb 24 2009, 10:58 AM) *
WOOHOO! Cancellation, here we go!

Your speaking too soon. There is going to be another season. They're even talking of what kind of plot Ali Larter will get next season. However, if next season gets very low ratings, then I guess they'll pull the plug. Right now, the ratings are excellent and after episode 20, the ratings will further increase because Bryan Singer is back. Check out this article:

http://www.heroestelevision.com/heroes-season-4-news/
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post Feb 24 2009, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE (bwm27 @ Feb 24 2009, 06:23 PM) *
Your speaking too soon. There is going to be another season. They're even talking of what kind of plot Ali Larter will get next season. However, if next season gets very low ratings, then I guess they'll pull the plug. Right now, the ratings are excellent and after episode 20, the ratings will further increase because Bryan Singer is back. Check out this article:

http://www.heroestelevision.com/heroes-season-4-news/


That article doesn't really say anything.. I'm not trying to be pessimistic, but it was written way before the ratings hit below 7 million. I'm excited for Heroes to be able to keep going, but if it follows this trend... Well I dont see much hope for it.



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