I cannot believe that Nathan did that! I hate him even more. He was my least favorite character, and I think he's going to stay there. He had no right to say that about Peter...And it was a LIE! Grrrrr

I know. Well hes next on sylars list.

Yes, but it was nessecary to win the campaign.

I understand him, and I would be backing it up, if I didn't know that NY would be blown up on the day Nathan won the election.

OMG! I know how you feel! I so wanted to kill Nathan when he said that! I was like, "YOU LIAR!"

LOL! I was screaming at my T.V..

I think Nathan is the one who got shot after dropping the little girl and flew to the top of the roof. He perhaps has additional powers of making that girl put the gun to her head.

If you listen to the message left on Suresh's answering machine it also sounds like Nathan.

he's going for sympthy vote

Nah, he can't be sylar.

Sylar lived in that appartment, killing all of those people all over the US. He is too tied up with the Campaign to do that.

I was SHOCKED when Nathan did that to Peter, that was low to use that to his advancement in the polls.

I nearly threw a brick at the t.v.

It was. But what do you expect from a Politician?

Still...politician or not...

I'm with dmacmattack...I almost threw a brick at the tv! I just wished it could have gone through the tv and smacked him flat in the face...

Nathan is so full of himself and doing whatever it takes to win, even if it means selling his brother out. I wouldn't be surprised if he eventually became revealed as a villain on the show. You know how politicians are. They're in love with having power! A sibling rivalry. Nathan vs Peter! It's perfect!

you know what is worse. thats just tv...but our public leaders do the same crap everyday...

I have a feeling Nathan is going to try to have Peter committed to an asylum...

oh god, i so want peter to be bad now, just for nathan

LOL! Yeah, just so he can kick Nathan's a**! Just watch though, karma will come swinging around. And when it does, I hope it smacks Nathan right in the face!

Mad? No. Disappointed? Yes.

I'm still hoping the producers aren't going to go down the very obvious road of having Nathan be a ruthless, moral-less jackass of a politician... just like every other politician. *sigh*

I want him to have SOME humanity. I want him to be DIFFERENT- and not in a flying sort of way. I want him to have a good heart, not just a cold pulmonary organ. He doesn't have to be all rainbows and puppydogs, but it'd be nice if he was more than just a shallow political cliche. From what I'm haring, though, it sounds as if that may be exactly what he is. More's the pity.

What a waste of a potentially fascinating character.

I hope TPTB pull this around and twist it in a new direction.

I think by the end of the season Nathan will be a Villain and Peter a Hero, or if the writers really want to screw with us the other way around. But come on, a good politician and an evil male nurse not very likely.

The thing is, we can't expect Nathan to be thrilled that he and his brother can fly (if Peter can fly, anyway). His reaction, in my opinion, is very realistic -- he's a politician, and just like Claire I have a feeling he just wants to be 'normal.' At the very least, he wants to be seen as 'normal' by his voters and the public.

As much as I get mad about it, I would never go as far as to throw a brick at the T.V. How will I watch Heroes after that?

I don't know, I kind of like the Ying Yang kind of thing they have going with the Petrelli brothers. I mean brothers fight that's normal, I know I hate mine every now and then.

A$$#0les like Nathan have the opportunity to redeem themselves. Think of other shows where the A$$#0les were in fact lovable and not a waste, in fact helped the storyline. Buffy (Spike), Firefly (Jayne), Lost (Sawyer), Veronica Mars (Logan), Alias (Sark), Greys Anatomy (Karev) and so on..

I know what you're thinking. She watches too much TV.

I do.

I still think that Nathan has much time to redeem himself...he could be two sided! Like in Batman Begins, Bruce Wayne is such a punk, like when he pretended to be drunk to get people to go home, but might be a good guy at night. Especially with his power so will just have to see.

I think that future events will depend on his career...

I posted this in another thread...

Sylar is a killer...he said it himself on the recording. He reminds me of a vampire. Someone who has tasted something and developed a hunger or someone on crack. lol!

However I believe that Nathan is the more dangerous one! He looks corrupt along with his ambition. What an amazing coincidence that the day after he gets elected a nuclear device goes off!?!? I think that the outcome of that day is going to coincide with his election. If he wins=BIG BOOM
if he losses=somehow heroes save day!

Ditto, but I was a little heartbroken when he did that to Peter... I think he'll come around though. Peter told his mom in the stairwell that he KNEW that his brother loved him. I think that will be a turn around in the show at one point... Ya know... the battle between brothers ends when Nathan makes some sort of hugeeee sacrafice for him! Mmmmaybe
Bah... what a jerk move though! Friggin' poli-comic-ticians!

A corrupt politician would be agonizingly obvious.

As for the bomb... how, exactly, could it be connected to Nathan winning the election? I mean, it plays like they MUST be linked, but I can't see how.

I just said he looks corrupt. I think that his election will coincide with the explosion. Remember what Hiro was saying that by interviening they were already changing the future. I think that if Nathan somehow losses the election somehow the bomb wont go off. Otherwise why would the writers have given us that information that the explosion goes off the day after? Hiro emphasizes on it in his blog. I think the choice will come down to Nathan...he will probably have to choose between the election or saving the day and then we will know where his allegiance lies.

Oh, come on! Don't get me wrong I get your point. But let's get real. The show tries to portray these heroes in a plausible realistic way, not like Superman.

But they can show me a person that can fly, read minds, heal herself, paint the future, eat brains (Hannibal Lecter aside), Freeze people, not to mention Travel back and forth in time and I buy it, is not that hard to swallow the way the show is scripted.

But show me an honest politician and that I don't buy. Sorry, but I think they're playing it right by being obvious. I mean politics is a Dog eat Dog world, Sadly an honest good hearted man would not survive.

That is probably why I never saw the West Wing.

Nathan's behavior in this episode was almost too predictable. He's been trying to convince Peter that he's out of his mind all along...for his own gain. What better way to do it than announcing it at a campaign event?

Thank you for completely missing my point. *sigh*

As I said, I'm not expecting Nathan to be perfect, but it'd be nice if he wasn't so cliched. I agree with Choille that he seems very predictible and I would prefer for none of the characters- particularly Nathan- to act in such obvious ways.

The press would have eventually questioned either Peter or Nathan why Peter jumped off the roof, with their family having a history of depression and whatnot. What could Nathan have said; that Peter believed he could fly?

Yeah, depression is more acceptable than insanity.

But as far as I'm concerned Nathan went "wrong" by not warning Peter ahead of time and by being so utterly cold and unsympathetic afterwards.

Excellent spin by Nathan. Spoken like a true Politician. Why is everyone angry, that's what Politicians do. Come on, you couldn't expect them to make Nathan this choir boy do gooder politician.

Let's see, well, he's already taken money from Linderman before this episode, so you know that he's shady and the election is #1 to him. He blew his mother off when she stole whatever she stole and wanted to keep it quiet.

They were letting you know about Nathan WAY before this.

He was telling Peter earlier on that the press would go after them and they needed an explanation, but Peter brushed it off like it was unimportant.

Also, when Peter kept on punching him down on the ground, Nathan let him leave unscathed when he could easily have had his bodyguards rough him up at least a little.

He could have acted a little better, but I don't see where everyone is saying he's some horrible person.

I think you're onto something dude. If you read Hiro's last blog, at the end he writes:

"P.S. On the November 8th paper, it said "wins by landslide". What's does
landslide mean?"

the "landslide" may be referring to the bomb!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

For a different take on Nathan, read today's comic. The situation is not as simple as you might think.

Tom

The other thing to take into account, is the possibility that even my calling it a 'suicide attempt' he's actually protecting Peter.

Consider for a moment the attention that trying to hide it would have brought about. There would have been reporters trying to find out what happened - and some paparazzi would eventually end up with pictures or video of one or both of them flying. With a plausible explanation in place, it not only deflects the attention they would be getting, but it buys them a lot more time to figure it all out for themselves. In short, I don't think it was all about Nathan protecting himself, he's protecting both of them.

In the short term, it feels like a betrayal to Peter, but in the long term, it's a good move.

Any guy that jumps off of monkey bars like that (Twice) should be committed. No wait, I just tried that... Ummm never mind.

I have had people hurt me for my own good before, I just didnt realize it till later. I hope Nathan is a good guy, correct me if I am wrong but didnt some of the pre show pump actually call Nathan a Senator or something. If anyone can find that let me know. I hope he wins the election and is an honest man-for a polatician-.

Did anyone else get a Republican vibe from Natan. I don't know why I say that, maybe I just want to see TV protray a Republican as a good guy for once.

Mr. Lithuania, you're right. If you guys read the graphic novel on the main website, it gives you a glimpse of how Nathan is going to win the election. I'll just give you guys this hint...Nathan begins to embrace his ability.

Nathan had better turn into a villain after this considering he doesn't reflect the qualities of a hero if he uses his brother's "suicide attempt" to his own advantage just to score votes. Peter is the one who deserves the power of flight considering he is more of a Clark Kent -nice guy type who would make a better hero than Nathan. Nathan is already becoming the Lex Luthor-type who wants wealth and power using any means to attain it such as using his family to get it all.

I couldn't believe he pulled a stunt like that just to improve his chances of winning. Stoopid politicians..

same here i am much more disappointed in him. but he didnt have to pull his brother in like that just to be normal...hopefully he redeems himself in the next episode just as he did in the comic book thing

although i was kind of screaming at the tv when he said the thing about peter and cheering peter on when he punched him in the face!

I thought what Nathan did was pretty under-handed, but I don't consider it to be that bad..he's just politician-ing it up.
I read todays comic, though, so I don't consider Nate to really be a bad guy. Like others have said, I think he'll eventually begin to embrace his gifts and make a transformation, as all good little heroes should
To be honest, from episode one, I thought it was going to be the other way around; that eventually Peter would end up going to the dark side and such. He just seems to be the much more impressionable and idealistic of the two, and that he'll be easily manipulated. He's probably sick of Nathan being the golden boy, and eventually he'll get tired of always having to play the good son.

I just read the comic at nbc.com and it shows Nathan saving a girl from a burning building, saying that it was something Peter would do. You should check it out.

Well, if you have read this week's graphic novel on NBC.com, it shows another side of Nathan..

Sam

---Well, looks like someone beat me to it...

Who says that the heroes have to be perfect, loving, non-manipulative, not-out-only-for-personnal-gain people? He could have a rotten personality, but he can still be a hero rather then a villain. His first thoughts and intentions could be to improve his image as a politician, but he could end up doing what's right in the process. Does being a hero or villain depend on the outcome of the action, or the intent/motivation?



I wanted to strangle him when he said that.

I think he is going to be committed. There's a scene in the previews or the commercial, I can't remember which...but Peter's jumping up and down trying to fly and he's in scrubs that look like an asylum uniform by a gate and it really looks like he's in some kind of mental institution. If this happened, Nathan's such a ******, cause he knows what really happened and Peter's not crazy.




He could have said it was an accident. That they were meeting on the roof for some stupid reason or that Peter was drunk... There are lots of things to say in between "He was trying to fly" and "He was trying to kill himself" that wouldn't totally ruin Peter's life...how does he move on from something like that? Now he's just going to be known as that politician's suicidal brother.

Ah, but is Peter in a loony bin? Or does he get snagged by HRG and his cronies and Nathan will have to fly to the rescue?

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The press would have eventually questioned either Peter or Nathan why Peter jumped off the roof, with their family having a history of depression and whatnot. What could Nathan have said; that Peter believed he coul

the press wouldn't know about their father's history if Peter didn't know

Nathan sold peter and his father out ******!

If you read the online comin..Nathan saves a woman from a burning building and then leaves her a vote petrelli pin (kinda like spidy's courtesy your friendly neighborhood spiderman note). So that's how he wins by a landslide in the future. He saves a bunch of people and leaves them vote for me pins.

Well... this is all just driving Peter go dark side on us... *cut to Vader scene in Episode III*