Sorry, but I'm not fond of "live" chats and having to dig through 8 pages of on-the-moment stuff.

Thoughts?

Claire is still squicky. Gotta say, I'm really angry about the stereotypical date rape quarterback boyfriend. That annoys me more than just about anything else at this point.

Hiro and his sidekick? Very cute, but shouldn't one of them speak SOME English? Or have a phrase book or something?

Scary Black Dude? I'm gonna guess that's Micah's dad and that he's working with Evil Glasses Man in order to stay out of jail.

Sylar... still don't have a clue what his powers are, unless it's everything.

Pete and Isaac's girl? Bleh. But speaking of Pete and his "connection" to his brother... maybe the flying only works when the two of them are together. Maybe it really IS a Wonder Twins Power kinda thing and the two halves equal a whole.

Either that or he can only mooch power from someone when that person is actually around. But that doesn't explain the psychic paper Prognosticatory Doodle.

Matt? I love him. Not as much as Hiro, but my heart really goes out to the guy. I think he's in for a rough time of it.

The friend does speak English in episode two. Remember when Hiro is talking with the police he calls up his "english speaking friend" and the guy tells the police he hasn't seen Hiro for 5 weeks. So I'm not sure why he isn't using it now.

This episode really crammed a lot into it. Anyway...

I really didn't get the whole point of Claire getting raped, it was a little creepy though her waking up in the morgue. Honestly..I never want to do that.

A question on Niki, if Niki wanted Micah's grandmother to stay out of his life why did she bring him there in the first place? A big WTF from me at that point.

I'm happy Peter and Symone hooked up they seem like a good couple, very realistic about everything.

Is Niki hooking up with Nathan in the next episode? I really didn't see the guy's face that clearly.

I was thinking the same thing. Hey, I drove all the way over here to tell you I want you out of Michas life. WTF? Could she have had any alterior motives for going there?

I'm wondering why the quarterback gets into a car with Claire in the next episode? I'd be creeped out if I was him. Unless she forced him into the car?

Nikki find the ring where she buries the two thugs.
The ring was supposedly the symbol everyone in her husband's crew wore. Finding it on the corpse, she came to show her mother-in-law, using it as proof that her husband murdered his crew after the big heist. She blows her off, and Nikki, furious tries to use Micah as leverage to get the grandmother to believe her.

x_x

Yeah, that was a bad hiccup in the script. Why did we even need to see her, other than to have the whole did he/didn't he conversation. Very awkwardly done.

As for Rape Boy (or wannabe Rape Boy), yeah, I dunno about you, but if I killed someone and they came back to life? I wouldn't want anything to do with them. Unless she pulls the old "get in the car and I'll explain everything" routine. In which case he's still an idiot. But then, he's also a rapist, so that shouldn't be too surprising.

I'm thinking she forces him into the car. About Nikki: There not really going to "hook-up" next week... Linderman pretty much makes Nikki be Nathan's hooker for the night to repay her debt to Linderman. Thats what I'm hearing in the spoilers.

Peter's power isn't flying it's power mimic.

Niki drove to the mom's house to see about DL and the ring. at least that's what i'm guessing.

I'm almost positive that was the QB in the car when she crashes.

What angered me about this episode was the blantant product placement. Unmei (destiny) is one thing, but they're seriously cramming that Nissan up someone's butt.

And I wonder if Claire loses an organ, like say in an autopsy, does she grow it back or just she just push it back in and it knits itself into place. Does having your blood replaced kill her or is it temporary like with the stick in the brain.

Lastly, who here thinks ando is going to meet his dream girl in Vegas? Show of hands people.

That would make some sense...so that Linderman can hold that over NAthan's head when Lindermann wants payback for his donations...and since he has the cops in his pocket he definitely is that type of guy

Oh, it's definitely Rape Boy. She's intending to kill him- knowing that she'll come out without a scratch and he'll never be able to rape her or anyone else ever again.

Or at least she's going to scare the crap out of him. In her place? I'd kill him.

After looking at the IMDB page of Heroes, that wasn't D.L. we saw in the bar. I think that was Sylar.

Ha! That was a little creepy when the cop pulled over Nikki and said Linderman needed to talk to her.

You're gonna want to watch how you handle quote tags, Butterfly. Leaving it all in a quote makes it look like I'm saying all of that (even with the bold texting and whatnot) and it also makes it impossible to quote you directly.

Anyway, I've been informed that MBD is not DL, however- DL is a criminal (or whatever) in Vegas. In NYC he could probably dance the macarena in Times Square and no one would bat an eye- not eve the cops.

Unless he's bad enough to warrant sending alerts to ALL the police stations in the country. I don't think he's a Most Wanted kinda guy, I think he's more smalltime than that. But you never know.

By the way, am I allowed to say, "Nyaa nyaa, I was right!" about Hiro going to Vegas? Last week everyone was all, "No, Hiro's going to NYC, you're so wrong about that! Obviously it's this other person over here!" Well, HA!

And I'll bet you dollars to donuts that the last line of the comic book, "We're on our own from here" refers to the fact that they reached the end of the comic book and Hiro can no longer predict what's going to happen. At least not until NYC goes FOOM!

I think DL has a power to render himself either invisible or faceless to others which is why the cop was able to pick up on him.

Hmm, what if Hiro and Ando are the ones that accidentally bust Niki out of having to play hooker for Nathan?

After reading some things about the next episodes...yeah.

Darkfire, please learn how to use spoiler tags so that you don't accidentally ruin possible upcoming plot points for others.

Some of us still like to be surprised.

DL's power is phasing...walk through walls...its listed on DBM site... and I think the man in the bar with the ~S= Symbol necklace is NOT DL... but a man that you see in the previews working with HRG...maybe Sylar..but after looking at his apartment it felt like he is working alone..to write forgive me I sinned, seems like he is dealing with an internal conflict and not with a team of people supporting his decisions...but we shall see

She died under suspicious circumstances. They could be performing an autopsy to try and determine what happened. Yes, COD was the stick to the back of the head, but were there contributing factors?

Although... don't you usually need the parent's or legal guardian's permission in order to perform an autopsy? I can't see Daddy signing off on that. And I can't see him allowing anyone to open up his "Clairebear" even as a way of testing her abilities.

k wait, who is DL? the guy in the bar is known as "mysterious man on IMDB and then theres another b;ack man who plays micahs dad, which i forget his name. but about the autopsy and what not, THERE IS NO AUTOPSY! she wasnt in the morgue, that has to have been sylars test lab, bcuz they dont just open ppls stomachs unless they needa find the cause of death, which they no is the head trauma. i believe they(sylar and co.) are testing her power to heal. also im ****** cuz i didnt get to c episodes from next week

No. D.L. Hawkins is Micah's father. That mysterious guy from tonight's episode is evil and works for Sylar. Come on people!


See. D.L. is hugging Micah in this screencap.

Do you think Matt can sometimes has trouble telling the difference between hearing someone's thoughts and hearing someone actually speak? It seemed when Matt's wife said, "I wish you would leave", he actually thought she said it out loud.

I'm very glad someone pointed this out. Considering there were probably marks on her neck/etc from QB trying to hold her down, the stick to the back of the head isn't necessarily COD. It could have happened secondary to COD, post mortem (sp?), or just been one of a few contributing factors.




I still think it's more likely she's at a morgue than some secret lab. If she's in a lab, how does she get out to "drive around" Mr. QB in the preview for next week? And though Daddy-Dearest might not have signed off on it, Claire's mother may have. With HRG seemingly part of this huge conspiracy, it's likely he could've been tied up with the going-ons in NYC with the cleaning out of the apt. and problems inside the FBI. And it may be possible the local police would've required an autopsy given the violent nature of her death.

Yes, thank you. You're only the tenth person to point that out.

As I already said I had not seen/did not remember having seen a pic of DL. I don't visit the homepage. I also avoid spoilers. Just because DL is Micah's dad does not indicate, to me, that he can't also work for HRG. I can think of several reasons why he might- stay out of jail, protect Micah/Niki, money, whatever. I know literally NOTHING about his character except that he's Micah's dad and he may have stolen money and/or killed some people. I don't want to know more about him until it airs on the show or until some over-eager fan on the board goes ahead and ruins it for me.

I get that it isn't DL! Okay? Can we all please drop it and move on? Should I go back and edit in, "Yes, I'm an idiot for even THINKING that could POSSIBLY be DL!" Would that make everyone happier? Then just get all the OTHER people making the SAME assumption to do the same thing and we can all be one big happy family again.

Jeez.

And yes, I'm also getting beaten over the head with the "not Sylar" link I've been posting so everyone can knock that off, too, okay? I cede all points and I'm very sorry for having the gall to try and post any theories without getting permission from the rest of the board to make sure I wasn't saying anything blatantly wrong. How very silly of me to think I could get away with it.

If you notice, when she's in the grandmother's house with Micah, one of the camera angles makes it look like someone is looking at them from the top of the stairs. Maybe DL is in the house, which is why the grandmother seems so smug when she tells Niki that he escaped. I can see a "flashback" when they're in the house, and instead of the camera looking down at Niki and the grandmother, the camera angle goes UP the stairs and you see DL standing at the top.

I think Matt can tell the difference because he has to focus to hear thoughts. He knew what she was thinking so he left so she didn't have to say it.

Y'know, as much as the product placement on the Nissan Versa annoys me, I saw one today (it was even blue) and burst out laughing. ...And then I looked around for Hiro. Didn't see him, but the coincidence still amused me.

AN AMAZING Episode!

Matt did not have to focus when he originally heard the little girl, nor did he have to focus when he was at the bar. It will be interesting to find out why Matt collapsed after hearing the thoughts of almost everyone at the bar, and then not hearing the thoughts of the guy wearing the S symbol.

I also think what might be part of the reason Matt could hear the little girl so far away, and through all the possible interference of all the people around the investigation scene is that she has the ability to send thoughts. Notice she does not seem surprised that he can "hear" her.

Maybe the connection between Supers is easier. Assuming the girl is a Super. Or maybe her extreme stress/emotions made her "louder" than everyone else.

But Issac's powers only come to him when he's high. Peter didn't get high(at least I hope not) and then came in contact with his brother after, giving him his powers.

Is it as obvious to everyone else as it is to me that Nikki was the one who killed those people and DL is completely innocent. I'm guessing DL is running to save Nikki and Micah, and not just himself.

And about Claire, there was a valid point on the first page that says that there was no need to open her chest when the cause of death is pretty apparent. I don't think it's a regular hospital she's in.



I completely agree with that theory and don't care what anyone else thinks... IMBD can be wrong at some points! My brother and I think that the story can't be as easy as Sylar being the big threat and what not. I'm almost 100% sure that it's going to get a little more confusing than just Sylar being mr. bad-man. But that's just me :\

Uuuh did he not come in contact with Issac when he was helping him out? In episode one?

Yesss... I was wondering if he can only mooch power from someone in his immediate vicinity and then I said that the doodle kinda negated that possibility since Isaac wasn't in the immediate vicinity when Peter sketched it.

Unless he was still hospitalized in the next room. *cues spooky music* But really, I don't think so.

And since Nathan can fly when Pete isn't around, I guess that nixes the rest of the theory. *shrug* It was fun while it lasted. Sorry about that $10 word. Prognosticatory. Sometimes I like to be fancy.

Peter faceplanting in playground. Best. Thing. Ever. Hilarious!

What I want to know -- is Sylar working solo? He was in L.A. when trying to get the girl and when he was shot by Matt, but then (or simultaneously) his apartment in Queens was cleared out while Mohinder & Eden fetched the authorities. So does he have operatives in New York, or do you suppose teleporting is part of his power too?

It was funny, but I'm not quite sure I understand why he did it. I mean, to the Rules of Flying say "You must climb on something tall and fall face forward in order to fly"?

First of all, if you can fly you should be able to do it from a standing position and second, even if you climb on something you should be able to jump feet first and still achieve flight.

Peter falling flat on his face is either meant to be a metaphor or it's done solely so that we can laugh at him. Logically it doesn't make sense and it makes me a little uneasy that Peter didn't think it through.

It's a spoof of the previous two episodes when Peter was falling from a building. It's shot to suggest he's doing it again. That's about it.

I'm thinking all this time that he should just try and walk the air instead. Because that's basically what he did last time he "flew".

Maybe his power only comes to him when he's high because he hasn't learned how to control it yet. Maybe once he's learned control he won't need to get high anymore to see the future.