.micah.
Oct 9 2006, 08:19 PM
ZOMFG! i got so freaked out when the a** tried to rape

claire! and then he killed her!?! too much beer? ithink so. Do you think he buried her or fessed up or what!? all we so was her autopsy and her waking up!

that cracked me up a little. I think that if she takes her bodyparts and slowly puts them where they're supposed to be they'll regenerate... RIGHT!?! oh god i wanted to kil that guy!
Palmetto Swamp Fox
Oct 9 2006, 08:23 PM
QUOTE (.micah. @ Oct 10 2006, 12:19 AM)

ZOMFG! i got so freaked out when the a** tried to rape

claire! and then he killed her!?! too much beer? ithink so. Do you think he buried her or fessed up or what!? all we so was her autopsy and her waking up!

that cracked me up a little. I think that if she takes her bodyparts and slowly puts them where they're supposed to be they'll regenerate... RIGHT!?! oh god i wanted to kil that guy!

Talk about winning the Miss Autopsy Award. That was wild!
Hart
Oct 9 2006, 08:28 PM
Makes you wonder the extent of her power. Does decapitation, for example, do her in? I mean if you cut off her head and immediately send one or the other of the two parts to say, Uzbekistan, does she still have the ability to make like a lizard with his tail cut off? Or, are there certain circumstances in which even Claire can not regain her ... composure? How do you kill Claire?
Dangard Ace
Oct 9 2006, 08:37 PM
From what it looks like in this episode, as long as her brain is functioning, ie not being impeded by a branch in the head, she can recover from almost any other bodily injury.
Right now I think all she needs to do is close up her chest cavity and she'll be fine since none of the pans around her had any of her organs..though she didn't appear to need organs to talk..
Viper
Oct 9 2006, 08:28 PM
I knew what was going to happion and it still shocked me!
guest6678XD
Oct 9 2006, 08:31 PM
QUOTE (Hart @ Oct 10 2006, 04:28 AM)

Makes you wonder the extent of her power. Does decapitation, for example, do her in? I mean if you cut off her head and immediately send one or the other of the two parts to say, Uzbekistan, does she still have the ability to make like a lizard with his tail cut off? Or, are there certain circumstances in which even Claire can not regain her ... composure? How do you kill Claire?
i think it depends-- look, her neck didnt regenerate fast, only when the branch was pulled off.
Palmetto Swamp Fox
Oct 9 2006, 08:34 PM
QUOTE (Hart @ Oct 10 2006, 12:28 AM)

Makes you wonder the extent of her power. Does decapitation, for example, do her in? I mean if you cut off her head and immediately send one or the other of the two parts to say, Uzbekistan, does she still have the ability to make like a lizard with his tail cut off? Or, are there certain circumstances in which even Claire can not regain her ... composure? How do you kill Claire?
The Highlander Immortal thing. Ya I was wondering about that too. One thing you could do is kill her in such a way that would prevent her from coming back to life. Like she would never have come around if the stake had not been removed. Imagine the corner's shock when he sees her!

She also seems to have a high tolerance for pain. Like when she poped her shoulder back in.
SureshIcantell
Oct 9 2006, 09:04 PM
I'm just bummed that we saw Claire's torso without any clothes and still didn't see any breasts.
.micah.
Oct 9 2006, 09:11 PM
QUOTE (SureshIcantell @ Oct 10 2006, 05:04 AM)

I'm just bummed that we saw Claire's torso without any clothes and still didn't see any breasts.

i'm with you man
DarthJeremy
Oct 9 2006, 09:13 PM
I'm curious about the extent of her powers, as well. At what point can she come back or not come back?
The Mac Guy
Oct 9 2006, 09:36 PM
I mentioned somewhere else that was the most appropriate use of underage profranity on a network show.
It is me or are her bones a little brittle?
DonkeyKong
Oct 9 2006, 09:14 PM
I cracked up laughing because I said, "HOLY SHI..." just before she did...
Guest_ANDY_*
Oct 9 2006, 09:16 PM
QUOTE (.micah. @ Oct 10 2006, 04:19 AM)

ZOMFG! i got so freaked out when the a** tried to rape

claire! and then he killed her!?! too much beer? ithink so. Do you think he buried her or fessed up or what!? all we so was her autopsy and her waking up!

that cracked me up a little. I think that if she takes her bodyparts and slowly puts them where they're supposed to be they'll regenerate... RIGHT!?! oh god i wanted to kil that guy!
THANK YOU Claire I JUST WANTED TO SMACK THAT LIL ******[size=7]

[b]
Blaze
Oct 9 2006, 09:18 PM
QUOTE (DonkeyKong @ Oct 10 2006, 12:14 AM)

I cracked up laughing because I said, "HOLY SHI..." just before she did...

haha me too!
and ditto Viper~
Guest_ANDY_*
Oct 9 2006, 09:18 PM
QUOTE (SureshIcantell @ Oct 10 2006, 05:04 AM)

I'm just bummed that we saw Claire's torso without any clothes and still didn't see any breasts.

YEA ME TO[size=3]
grimlock
Oct 10 2006, 03:24 AM
QUOTE (The Mac Guy @ Oct 10 2006, 01:36 AM)

It is me or are her bones a little brittle?
I don't know if the writers are just using her injuries to point out how well she can heal herself, but she does seem to break bones/fall on pointy things more easily than a normal person. Perhaps it's just that, with a dulled sense of pain, she never learned how to fall without hurting herself.
gargyloveswolfy
Oct 10 2006, 07:37 AM
1. I, also, knew what was coming...and it still shocked me.
2. Yes, I had to laugh at the way she was like "Holy..." LMAO!
3. I hope she kills that rapist arse hole.
4. Anybody else notice that girl that stepped up near the end of the bonfire scene and looked after them leaving..probably thinking..that prock is going to do it again!
Thrift_shop_ninja
Oct 10 2006, 07:41 AM
Exactly what I was thinking. A guy like that has probably done something like that many times before >.<
side note to the guys upset with the non-nudity: I don't know how old Claire is, but I'm pretty sure if you had nude photos you might have a couple'a' Policemen at the door not to long afterwards >P
Also, I thought the effect of her eyes clearing then dialating was a really awesome effect.
Master Xander
Oct 10 2006, 07:44 AM
I certainly hope all the little visions we're getting of Sylar's handiwork isn't foreshadowing of Claire's fate...
gargyloveswolfy
Oct 10 2006, 07:49 AM
Um, she's a main cast member..so, Claire's fate is long long ways off!
roxygr1223
Oct 10 2006, 07:49 AM
QUOTE (gargyloveswolfy @ Oct 10 2006, 11:37 AM)

1. I, also, knew what was coming...and it still shocked me.
2. Yes, I had to laugh at the way she was like "Holy..." LMAO!
3. I hope she kills that rapist arse hole.
4. Anybody else notice that girl that stepped up near the end of the bonfire scene and looked after them leaving..probably thinking..that prock is going to do it again!

yea the other girl, dang she should have said something...to someone!
Master Xander
Oct 10 2006, 08:25 AM
QUOTE (gargyloveswolfy @ Oct 10 2006, 11:49 PM)

Um, she's a main cast member..so, Claire's fate is long long ways off!

Tell that to Gale Harold from "Vanished."
WonderCanuck
Oct 10 2006, 08:50 AM
She's getting cooler each episode. "Holy S@#t!" Awesome! x
gargyloveswolfy
Oct 10 2006, 08:45 AM
QUOTE (Master Xander @ Oct 10 2006, 11:25 AM)

Tell that to Gale Harold from "Vanished."

Don't you mean Brian Kinney from (US) QAF!
The Great Mazinga
Oct 10 2006, 11:44 AM
QUOTE (Master Xander @ Oct 10 2006, 03:44 PM)

I certainly hope all the little visions we're getting of Sylar's handiwork isn't foreshadowing of Claire's fate...
I'm betting Sylar killed her parents (to obtain their powers) and took in little Claire because he couldn't figure out how to kill her too. He's just biding his time until he knows her weakness. He "adopted" her to keep her near until he figures out what will kill her.
mama1975
Oct 10 2006, 11:56 AM
Maybe Sylar is aware that one of the Heroes (or the one he's after) can regenerate and taking all of his victims brains out is a way to be sure they can't come back. Covering his bases. He knows its one of these people but not sure who so kill them all in the same way. Maybe others can regenerate too so he had to take the brain to kill them. That could be why Isaac didn't die of an overdose. Just a theory.
djearl81
Oct 10 2006, 12:02 PM
We don't know how much time went by while Claire was unconscious. If she was taken to the hospital soon after she was impaled, then she could show up at school the next day as if nothing ever happened. She could meet the rumors with other questions so know one ever knew what happened (outside of what she says about the incident with the QB.)
Either way, we know that she wants revenge on the QB.
geomancer
Oct 10 2006, 12:44 PM
QUOTE (.micah. @ Oct 9 2006, 09:19 PM)

ZOMFG! i got so freaked out when the a** tried to rape

claire! and then he killed her!?! too much beer? ithink so. Do you think he buried her or fessed up or what!? all we so was her autopsy and her waking up!

that cracked me up a little. I think that if she takes her bodyparts and slowly puts them where they're supposed to be they'll regenerate... RIGHT!?! oh god i wanted to kil that guy!

Dude, I can't wait to see ******face's expression when he sees her ALIVE. Of course, with an attempted rape and death via branch in head cause Claire to be a force of good, evil, or neutrality/apathy? And does she get with nerd/geek boy since he's the only one she can trust now? Hmm...
gargyloveswolfy
Oct 10 2006, 02:06 PM
QUOTE (geomancer @ Oct 10 2006, 03:44 PM)

Dude, I can't wait to see ******face's expression when he sees her ALIVE. Of course, with an attempted rape and death via branch in head cause Claire to be a force of good, evil, or neutrality/apathy? And does she get with nerd/geek boy since he's the only one she can trust now? Hmm...
Um, I believe when her dad (HRG) dropped her off at school and begged her to date geeks...I believe that is foreshadowing!
DarthJeremy
Oct 10 2006, 03:28 PM
"Um, she's a main cast member..so, Claire's fate is long long ways off"
show's like this...i wouldn't be too sure
AznPride
Oct 10 2006, 04:06 PM
Wow... that episode was... different. I wish they showed more Hiro though. *Japanese accent* "Nissan Versa!"
Hiro_Fan06
Oct 10 2006, 04:11 PM
I like it when he said "Yatta! HELLO NEW YORK!" in the Japanese accent. I laughed when he said that.
Thrift_shop_ninja
Oct 10 2006, 04:26 PM
I think the idea of Claire dying in the first place is far-fethched considering her abilities. I belive she will indeed get some well deserved revenge on the QB, and then FINALLY learn that her real soarse of trust is Zach (reglardless of orientation, mr "I love 'Pricilla, Queen of the Desert' "

)
Actually, this episode, with the whole part in front of the school, made me think that HRG really DOES care for claire, and is really torn as to what to do, or how to act.
onjay
Oct 10 2006, 04:27 PM
QUOTE (mama1975 @ Oct 10 2006, 01:56 PM)

Maybe Sylar is aware that one of the Heroes (or the one he's after) can regenerate and taking all of his victims brains out is a way to be sure they can't come back. Covering his bases. He knows its one of these people but not sure who so kill them all in the same way. Maybe others can regenerate too so he had to take the brain to kill them. That could be why Isaac didn't die of an overdose. Just a theory.
I agree. Also, with Matt's first scene in ep2, notice that the dad in the house was frozen, dead, and partially decapitated, losing is brain in the prossess which is similar to what you saw happened to Issac. I'm thinking that he was a "hero" like them. Along with the little girl in the closet (obvious) But, she must have extraordinary powers if she were able to survive the attack by Sylar the first time.
Anyways, on to Claire...
HOT!
mrs_nisius
Oct 10 2006, 04:41 PM
well we all know claire's dad knows alot. so he should know that Claire will come back... right.. it does seem like all of these people are more intertwined than regular characters on shows. I really love this show. I have heard that some people think that it has too much violence! Nope, I think it has just enough to make its points. Claire and Nikki are my favs!
roxygr1223
Oct 10 2006, 08:30 PM
awesome theories..maybe this is true maybe he takes brains to stop them from regenerating and freezes them just to be sure
Palmetto Swamp Fox
Oct 10 2006, 08:27 PM
QUOTE (DarthJeremy @ Oct 10 2006, 01:13 AM)

I'm curious about the extent of her powers, as well. At what point can she come back or not come back?
The stake in her head kept her from comming back to life. It seems her regeneration is limited as long as trama to the brain exsists. If her head was removed then the brain would be seperate from the body.
Now a case could be made that the head might regenerate a body. But that seems unlikely. No animal on Earth can do that. A hydra and a protozoa can regenerate a new body. But not from the head down.
Palmetto Swamp Fox
Oct 10 2006, 08:34 PM
QUOTE (roxygr1223 @ Oct 11 2006, 12:30 AM)

awesome theories..maybe this is true maybe he takes brains to stop them from regenerating and freezes them just to be sure
Or he freezes them to take the brains. At anyrate the brain seems to be the ceneter of a heroes power.
roxygr1223
Oct 10 2006, 08:36 PM
this is true
ocularsnipe
Oct 10 2006, 09:42 PM
I don't think head trauma is the only limit on Clair's powers. Remember the first episode with he rib sticking out which she had to realign before her body healed. I think it has something more to do with something piercing through the skin, preventing the regeneration in that area. Though I will admit that this case is different, since the regeneration that was being prevented was in some was brain or spine related, she appeared dead, whereas in the first episode she just walked around with the injury.
A couple points really concern me on that last scene. The first is where is the person who removed the branch? In the shot immediately following, Clair appears to be alone. It's almost as if they removed it, then hightailed it out of there. Second, how long has she been dead and who knows about it? It will be very interesting to see how they work this out (though I think her seclusion with the QB at the time of her death, not to mention what he was doing, may limit those who have heard as I doubt he is eager to talk about it.) Finally, does anyone know how an autopsy is usually caried out? It just seems to me like you would remove the foreign objects and make observations on the wound before cutting open the otherwise uninjured body. But I guess it wouldn't have the same shock value.
Wanderer
Oct 10 2006, 10:35 PM
Maybe they started to cut up the body to harvest organs. If a young person dyes from something like that I would think they might try to get some parts out to use in others.
I am thinking it was her dad that yanked the stick out and in the next episode he will be the one going after the QB. And CLaire wil have to fess up to daddy.
Jerrold
Oct 10 2006, 10:50 PM
I find it most likely that Claire will be forced to flee, never seeing these people again... You don't just come back from the dead and walk around going on with your life when you die at a school related event.
Also, Claire DID regenerate fingers on her mangled hand, making me lean toward whole body regeneration, though this could be a distally oriented limb replacement.
Spitfire
Oct 11 2006, 02:04 AM
QUOTE (Hart @ Oct 9 2006, 09:28 PM)

Makes you wonder the extent of her power. Does decapitation, for example, do her in? I mean if you cut off her head and immediately send one or the other of the two parts to say, Uzbekistan, does she still have the ability to make like a lizard with his tail cut off? Or, are there certain circumstances in which even Claire can not regain her ... composure? How do you kill Claire?
The ironic way... cancer.
QUOTE (SureshIcantell @ Oct 9 2006, 10:04 PM)

I'm just bummed that we saw Claire's torso without any clothes and still didn't see any breasts.

you do see them, just from the inside out, use your imagination.
Palmetto Swamp Fox
Oct 11 2006, 04:39 AM
QUOTE (ocularsnipe @ Oct 11 2006, 01:42 AM)

I don't think head trauma is the only limit on Clair's powers. Remember the first episode with he rib sticking out which she had to realign before her body healed. I think it has something more to do with something piercing through the skin, preventing the regeneration in that area. Though I will admit that this case is different, since the regeneration that was being prevented was in some was brain or spine related, she appeared dead, whereas in the first episode she just walked around with the injury.
A couple points really concern me on that last scene. The first is where is the person who removed the branch? In the shot immediately following, Clair appears to be alone. It's almost as if they removed it, then hightailed it out of there. Second, how long has she been dead and who knows about it? It will be very interesting to see how they work this out (though I think her seclusion with the QB at the time of her death, not to mention what he was doing, may limit those who have heard as I doubt he is eager to talk about it.) Finally, does anyone know how an autopsy is usually caried out? It just seems to me like you would remove the foreign objects and make observations on the wound before cutting open the otherwise uninjured body. But I guess it wouldn't have the same shock value.
Ya good point. I think it was brought up in the General Discussion. A good reminder.
Ok so brain trama and she has to help herself heal when the wound has a break in the body's skin or shell.
As for the autopsoy I cannot say. I would just think it would not matter.
QUOTE (Spitfire @ Oct 11 2006, 06:04 AM)

The ironic way... cancer.
you do see them, just from the inside out, use your imagination.
I doubt her body will let her get sick.
QUOTE (Jerrold @ Oct 11 2006, 02:50 AM)

I find it most likely that Claire will be forced to flee, never seeing these people again... You don't just come back from the dead and walk around going on with your life when you die at a school related event.
Also, Claire DID regenerate fingers on her mangled hand, making me lean toward whole body regeneration, though this could be a distally oriented limb replacement.
Hmmmm this might play into the preview where Peter is looking at the comic and says he thinks they are supposed to help the cheerleader.
She would be considered clinicly dead.
And if she is on the run her father would be looking for her.
Palmetto Swamp Fox
Oct 11 2006, 06:18 AM
I just watched the episode again and I noticed something. Her rib cage had not yet be broken. Only the skin was cut. No organs had been removed.
Fanatic!
Oct 11 2006, 06:31 AM
This is just a thought...but does anyone else suspect that the quarterback was intentionally trying to hurt her? Something makes me think that Dr. Jekyll or something set the QB and Claire up so the latter could wind up dead and on the operation table. I think there was a hint when her dad said "Be careful" after inquiring after whether or not Claire liked the QB. I mean, it seemed weird to me that the QB would so happen to run into Claire and twist her neck during the first episode. After seeing the second episode, I keep thinking "Did he WANT her neck to snap?" ("I thought I heard something snap") I mean, SOMEONE has to do the dirty work...
Like I said, weird speculation, but I think that it's a possibility.
Cloned Images
Oct 11 2006, 06:53 AM
okay this is my theory on how she will be able to come back from the dead so to speak. Claire's daddie(HRG) pulled some strings to get the body to a undisclosed(SP?) location. so know one would know about it, thats why the corner hightailed it out of there once he pulled the stick out of her head. Im thinking HRG has much bigger plans for her. and maybe just wanted to see how far her abilites goes.
Palmetto Swamp Fox
Oct 11 2006, 06:36 AM
QUOTE (Fanatic! @ Oct 11 2006, 10:31 AM)

This is just a thought...but does anyone else suspect that the quarterback was intentionally trying to hurt her? Something makes me think that Dr. Jekyll or something set the QB and Claire up so the latter could wind up dead and on the operation table. I think there was a hint when her dad said "Be careful" after inquiring after whether or not Claire liked the QB. I mean, it seemed weird to me that the QB would so happen to run into Claire and twist her neck during the first episode. After seeing the second episode, I keep thinking "Did he WANT her neck to snap?" ("I thought I heard something snap") I mean, SOMEONE has to do the dirty work...
Like I said, weird speculation, but I think that it's a possibility.
That is a possability. Although he was pretty shocked after her "accident". Of course I would expect someone to be shocked after the first time they kill someone.
Jerrold
Oct 11 2006, 06:37 AM
QUOTE
I just watched the episode again and I noticed something. Her rib cage had not yet be broken. Only the skin was cut. No organs had been removed. blink.gif
Or they had just finished weighing everything (as there was trace blood in all of the pans) and put it back in, and when she woke up her body did what it does and righted itself. Which seems most likely to me. Remember, she has to get put back together to heal.
The blood in the pans is what is most convincing to me.
Palmetto Swamp Fox
Oct 11 2006, 06:41 AM
QUOTE (Jerrold @ Oct 11 2006, 10:37 AM)

Or they had just finished weighing everything (as there was trace blood in all of the pans) and put it back in, and when she woke up her body did what it does and righted itself. Which seems most likely to me. Remember, she has to get put back together to heal.
The blood in the pans is what is most convincing to me.
No I don't think so. If the organs are harvested they wouldn't be put back.
Also we do not know what extent of being whole is required for regeneration. So far it seems that the brain has to be intact for regenration to work.
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