Keep in mind this could be the Hiro from /next week/. Or one hour from now. It depends on how soon he realizes just how much his powers allow him to do.

From our perspective, Hiro has /as much time to learn things as he wants/. He goes off, spends two years learning perfect, unaccented english, then pops right back to when and where he started - we know he retains all the knowledge he gets when he comes back from a future date (since he remembers going to future New York and seeing the Armageddon Event). And he can do that with /any/ skill: he can become a master swordsman, learn ninjitsu, train under the world's best hairdresser, anything he darn well likes.

Among his other amazing powers, this potentially makes Hiro the ultimate 'skills' hero, like Batman.

interesting to think about...

I have two problems with this, How does he learn anything when everyone and everything is indeed frozen in time. Two, how does he know that peter is at that location at that time. And then makes reference to a scar that he may/ or may not get in the future.

indeed, very interesting.

If he goes into the future for two years and then returns to where he was, would he be two years older? Or would he go back to how his body was before he left? It seems to me like he would age.

You're DEAD ON. I would be shocked if they don't explain it that way exactally. Although, he is from the "future" because he knew Peter and Peter has a scare but the future could be a week, month, eleven days, etc. Hiro clearly learned how to groom his fu man chu in the future.

Well remember the pain in the butt thing about time travel/dimension hopping. You can be anywhere you want at anytime. If he indeed mastered this power, then he would know where anyone is at anytime. And being a master of that power he would know what to do without messing up the future too much. After all if he chooses to change everything...a worst fate might happen...

Man I hate time travel.

He didn't. It was implied that there is either life after the New York explosion or he just kept going back in time. (Perhaps for over a year total, since his hair is now long and he appears to have learned English and maybe fighting skills.)

How would Hiro learn perfect english and american accent in one day or even one month? Let alone one year.

I think Hiro would be more responsible with his time travel. Keep in mind, the show is intended for a long term run, so the future Hiro, may just develope over time. Also, when you see him from the future, he has a vastly different, more world-wore look to him. Being from the future, we don't know if he was able to save new york. This could be a Hiro who has spent the last few years fighting Sylar and HRG.

Another great thing about the time travel aspect of the show is this. If Hiro knows Peter in the future, and he wanted to travel to where Peter was in the past, bingo, he could just ask him, conceivably.

i seriously doubt that he's from 1 hour or 1 week from now, Hiro had quite a long pony tail and that would take at least a year to grow out

Either way Future Hiro has obviously traveled back to this point in time to make sure the Heroes join together as soon as possible and take on their mission early on without delay. I'm glad he showed up; maybe everyone will be pointed in the right direction now.

Loved the whole future Hiro showing up but I have a few questions that I am not quite sure about..

I know his powers are much more powerful in the future. But can he freeze time for some people and not the others or does Peter absorb his powers which gies him the abilitly not to be froxen in time like the others and how did Hiro know that from the future?

Also this is the Hiro of the future in the present talking to Peter on the subway, does this mean at that point in time there are 2 Hiros, is the Hiro in Vegas still there?

Its awesome that his appearance gets you thinking about things like this!

I think for sure that there can be as many Hiro's on earth in a given moment as he chooses to spagetti himself around. They'll have to limit him somehow, and we've yet to hit the big paradox problems of time travel, but unless they're very careful, he could go from being the show's by-far coolest character to the one that made it jump the shark.

Maybe we will find out in the next episode, since it's titled Hiros.

So does this mean that he can come back from the future and talk to his present day self? Or will that screw up the whole time continuim (sp?) alla back to the future!

This version of Hiro, at least in my mind, is meant to represent the older, more experienced Super-Hiro (no pun inten... aw, heck, yeah it is!) who has spent many years among other ability-laden persons (one of which is future Peter, who recieves a scar from an unknown event) and has adventured in a world where there are many more like him and the other Heroes, some of which have used their powers for evil deeds.

The fact that he's wearing a sword probably means that his time/space abilities (in the future, at least) no longer have the same impact in a future world where villains perhaps have power-negating abilities and Super-Hiro has had to adapt to a more conventional fighting style.

Something else to consider: current time-travel theories speculate that one CANNOT return to the same exact spot in time from which you've "jumped" from. Currently, Hiro has travelled to the future, witnessed the nuclear attack in NYC, and returned to what we consider to be the original timeline. And for all intents and purposes, it is. But theoretically speaking, the current timeline (where he is in Vegas), is different from the original from which he departed.

Just something to think about.

Hiro's time travel will be the source of much debate.. has anyone ever seen the debates over the back to the future movies? mind numbing at times.

"you look different without your scar"

seems like a future version tome

Einstein discussed this phenomenon...

"Sit with a pretty girl for two hours and it seems like two minutes. Sit on a stove for two seconds..."

Another time travel theory is that you cannot go back in time farther than the first instance of time travel. However, this deals largely with time machines and I'm not sure the logistics of someone who could manipulate time. To me the idea of Hiro returning to the ancient past and learning how to fight (an idea posted on many a thread) seems a bit too corny, not to mention that it would once again divide the story (this time through time rather than space) and I'm already really anxious for the heroes to find each other so we can stop this jumping around. Besides that, I fear such far flung time traveling would lessen the realism which attracted me to this show in the first place.

Let us all remember our basic physics and the theory of relativity. IF someone travels forward in time, time for them stands still while everything else either progresses or digresses. He would ultimately age at his normal rate, whereever and whenever he goes.

This is Hiro from 7years in the future... clearly no relation to 1hr or 1 week Hiro...
He came to start the Heroes group quite earlier than it is supposed to because maybe that way they could change the future that he's from...
Trunks!

Nice use of the DragonBall! He even has a sword like Trunks and everything. Let's see if he can be a Super Saiyan

Sounds like the whole bill and ted thing. go back in time to warn your self. leave messages to hide the keys and what not

Oh and how bout this. hiro can adjust his time travel to freeze everything except certain people. must be a hiro that has realy learned his power.

Ok Here's my votes, IMHO, of what theories I agree with.


PS. anybody notice the casino Hiro and his sidekick get kicked out of was the Montecito? NBC's LAS VEGAS set.

Personally, I can't help but suspect that the scriptwriters haven't thought much of it through. I mean, this wouldn't be the first thing that they did a sloppy job on scientifically (seen the debates about how exactly Claire powers her power?)

I think this is indeed Hiro from years in the future, but I also believe that he can obviously choose who is frozen in time with him, so that it is indeed possible that he could have possibly unfrozen someone to teach him perfect english and possibly the ways of the samurai.

I have a little more toleration for Peter after this episode. My theory is that only Hiro and Peter can receive "messages frozen in time" by Future Hiro. Hiro, because he obviously can freeze time. Peter, because of his empathetic (it's funny how that sounds like pathetic) powers.

Anybody think that maybe he didn't travel back to that exact point? Maybe he got on the subway as everyone else did and just froze time at that moment to speak to Peter. That would eliminate the whole having to know where he is thing. All he would need is a general idea and he could go to that time and find him. Also he chose to talk to Peter for a reason. If all he needed to do is tell something to someone he could have went to any of the possible heros. Also I think they didn't stop the explosion in the future and that is why he is coming back, he is gonna tell Peter "save the cheerleader, save the world" which leads me to think they don't stop the destruction of NYC and possibly Claire falls into HRG's hands or something.

Also it may be the fact that Peter is the only one that can not be frozen in time when everyone else is that lead Hiro to come back to deliver the message to him.

Peter will have an internal conflict between good/evil. Maybe he is a bad guy in the future and part of changing the future for the better is making Peter be a good guy.

Not sure about any of everyone else's theories, but as for what I think, I think that of course, this was an awesome episode. I can't WAIT till the poop hits the fan (more action scenes) in this show! But anyway, I believe that of course Neo Hiro came back to get a premptive strike against Sylar n'Comp and try and begin the rallying of heroes.

I think one of the reasons that Peter was able to not be affected by Time Stop, is that he subsonciously was able to defend against it. Of course, Neo Hiro knew this already and probably knew where to find him. As far as the scar, there is no way to know who/what/why/how it happens, but I'm definitely looking forward to it!

Maybe this is the first attempt for Hiro to go into the past after all that he has seen in the future.

It could be that all of the heros "missed" the collision the first time around and Hiro some time in the future figures this out.

Remember, just before the explosion, Isaac is dead, brain taken out and all.

Perhaps Clair does not live into the future from where Hiro came from, and Hiro did not know of Clair until something in the future keys him into her presence in the past.

A problem with this is that Hiro mentions a scar that peter will have, and I know that this scar is being discussed as happening when they fight sylar trying to save Clair. If this is the case, then my theory might not hold water, since it would take this Hiro event to bring Peter to the realization of what he must do, and then gets the scar while doing it.

Now to get a scar, one would have to believe that Peter would have to have something happen to him while he is not around Clair, so my theory is that sylar tries to get Peters brain and is in the process of doing that when Peter starts to use Sylar's powers against him. Thus Peter is left with a scar to the head, and he is not around Clair for it to heal right away.

LOL i love this show.

the thing i think being missed here is the other belief that even tho there is some time travel confusion going on (hiro going forward and seeing the explosion, then going back in time to stop it, then showing up either post-explosion/post-whatever) there is another belief about 'time travel" that even tho you can " go back and change things" it was linear and was supposed to happen like that either way. Basically its cause and effect, even tho hiro goes ahead in time and sees the explosion, this means that despite what he does to stop it by going back, it has to happen, or this would mean that if he were to stop the explosion, then the explosion would never happen and thus hiro could never go forward and see the original explosion thus starting the events that cause him to go back and try to stop it.

Also there is the flipside that hiro has to go see something in the "future" to cause it not to happen later (say he does stop it) then you go back to that "explosion never happened thing"... either way it goes on the theory that time is linear or circular.

its so stinking confusing to explain (it works out in my head, but i cant explain it right)


(for the RvB fans)
Timeline? Time isnt a line. Its a circle. Thats why clocks are round.

definitely the first time we see him during the course of events within the current time-frame (while the heroes are discovering themselves). but, maybe it's not the first time future-hiro has actually done so ... this could just be the "farthest" back he's traveled.

this stuff really scrambles my brain.

I like future"HIROS" new look but if these guys are going to run around doing the Super thing.they're going to have to disguise themselves. So the bad guys & the FBI or Homeland Security does'nt figure out who to get revenge at or lock up! Remember we have cameras on every corner and in space ,that can zoom in on a faceof a dime on Earth. (IE: Helmet, mask , sunglasses, etc.)

Personally, I think that Peter unconsiously mimicks Future Hiro's powers, adn thus is immune to being frozen, as long as Hiro is nearby. Heck, Future Hiro could have been looking for Peter for days relative, before he got close enough for Peter to pop out of the timeline...

Hmmm... Each answer asks so many more questions..

Sam

Yeah I think that he's from the distant future because everything in heroes is either a hidden agenda or something not as it seems. Deffinately from the distand future. A year at least. Not something they are going to hit on the head until at least the next season, I think and agree.