Hiro SPECIFICALLY says, "This is what you have been waiting for." Well, what has Peter been waiting for...

Peter (10 times or so in the show): "Sometimes, do you think you are meant for something greater."

Well, this leads me to believe, Hiro tells him to save the chearleader. By helping her, Peter becomes part of something bigger, which is something he has been waiting for, which is in effect, saving the world.

Now some Hiro/Explosion Series

1. There is no reason to believe so far, that Issac's paintings never happen. They always happen at this point (7 years later (umbrella rain picture), or days later. But the explosion happened once already, does that mean the painting occured and this time it won't.

2. So this can tell us nothing the Heroes can EVER do will stop the destruction of NYC.

3. But, Hiro comes from the future (OBVIOUSLY after the nuclear explosion) and talks to Peter. So obviously they failed, never met, whatever. What if this is NOT the first time he is coming back, what if they failed before. Why now? If fate is true, coming back in time won't change the future.

4. If the future can change and we believe in free will, then they can stop the bomb the second time.

5. What is it to say that the first time they failed, Hiro didn't contact Peter in that timeline too?

Anyways time travel is confusing, no one can understand it until the creators explain it in the way they view time travel. It's all subjective until time travel is a tested law of physics.

I think it's an interesting fact that future Hiro decided to contact Peter at that exact moment and at that exact place. I wonder if there is a significance there. Perhaps it is because he is with Mohinder...

Also, you too mention the "this is what you have been waiting for" line, given by future Hiro. I distinctly remember hearing this line last night during the show, but reviewing it on NBC rewind and on itunes, it isn't said. Am I losing my mind? Are you?

EDIT: Oh, so it was in the preview. Man, I must be totally out of it... O.o

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I don't follow you here... What do you mean by "it happened once already?"

If you mean when Hiro saw it, remember... he was 5 weeks into the future. He went back (to the subway train) 5 weeks and is now racing time to stop the explosion.

Confusing indeed.

That line definitely wasnt said when I watched it. I still don't know where this "Save the cheerleader, save the world" thing comes in. Was that Hiro's message? It didn't show Hiro's message, and I don't remember hearing it anywhere else. Good news though, that the cheerleader isn't going to die. Unless they don't mind not saving the world in this show, of course.

Hiro looks like Raph from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 when he goes out at night. Totally awesome.

My theory is that Hiro knew where to find peter and knew to give peter the message because in the future, peter told him.

Now I know this is confusing but just think about it, what if perhaps originally Hiro contacted peter, told him what he had to tell him ect. and then finally when a certain time was reached in the future Peter had to tell Hiro what happened in the past on the subway in order for that entire situation to occur, this infact would be considered a paradox

but it is possible that Hiro travelling back in time to warn peter occured because it 'did' already happen, and in the future peter tells hiro where he has to go and when in order to keep the running loop going

yeah its confusing..hopefully someone will agree with me that it kind of makes sense

Perfectly.

Hiro said it himself. Time is not a straight line.

There's a possibility that Peter coupled with the obvious boy genuis that is Nikki's son, coupled with Hiro has a far reaching plan. A game of scrabble with the universe.

The reason all of his pictures hae come true thus far is because there was no reason or no person to stop them...

It wasn't in this show, it was in the preview for the next one. I can't find a link to the video, but I'll give you a recap of it:

- Future Hiro to Peter: "This, is what you've been waiting for."

As the voiceover says "A vision of the future begins to guide them", we get the following brief scenes:
- Peter in Isaacs studio walking past painting of Hiro and Ando.
- Hiro and Ando in a car with a cell phone.
- Peter in Isaacs studio looking at various paintings, including one of Claire in trouble, saying, "It tells a story like a comic."

- Claire in a hospital bed, with HRG beside her saying, "Claire, you've got to start trusting me." At the same time the voiceover was saying "The face of evil..."

The voiceover pauses, then continues the sentence with "closes in" with the scene of Nathan in what appears to be pajama pants, running away from HRG and MBG who are chasing him. Nathan runs out of a building into some sort of open fenced in area. HRG and MBG catch up to Nathan, HRG points a gun at him, and Nathan flies off like a rocket into the sky.

The voiceover concludes dramatically with "And, the one clue, which will define their destiny.."

During this time, several quick scenes snap by.
- Peter with clouded eyes like Isaac had.
- Claire lying down, her face bloody

Then the message concludes, with words on the screen, as well as whispered at the same time.
"Save the Cheerleader"
- a brief picture of Claire flashes on the screen
"Save the world"

this is kinda obvious but i noticed how greatly advanced hiro's powers become. When I watched the ep. on Rewind, thats the one thing that kept jumping out at me. Hiro becomes one serious BadA$$. I think that pretty much put in the twist that got the producers a second season and put Heroes as a concrete show.

p.S. does any one have a screen of future Hiro

I think Future Hiro and any other of our Heroes from the future come to the conclusion that there is a defining moment shortly after the scene in the subway. I agree that its probably not the first time Future Hiro has "jumped" in time to stop the Explosion. I also think Future Hiro picked Peter specifically because he is a Mimic. That way they can TELEPORT together.

Peter should also be able to now show Mohinder that he can use someone's powers, since Hiro showed up in the car.

Perhaps in some alternate time, Peter didn't have anything to show Mohinder, so he went home. Peter eventually met up with Hiro, but couldn't get the rest of the group together without Mohinder's list.

So, Peter told Hiro when to come back to meet him in the presense of Mohinder, so that he could use Hiro's power to prove to him that he is what he says he is.

Hello all, new to the forum and have read alot and have gained alot of insight from your posts. I have DVR'd all episodes and will re-watch because you all have picked up on things that I obiviously have missed. One pondering thing for me is who is the Black Guy with Claires dad? What powers does he possess, and what is he going to wipe from the COPS memory? Keep posting stuff cause this show is awesome and reading the posts keys me in to things i've missed.

Navydude, it appears that he is able to neutralize the Heroes' abilities and apparently erase memories. But when Matt (Cop) is on the table, I think he is able to just catch the name Claire and asks "Who's Claire" and Mr Bennet responds "Clean him out. He already knows too much." That's my theory.

Well think about it, this is obviously not the first time Hiro has tried to stop the bomb, this may be the 2nd or 10th time. Like how Neo tried to save the world multiple times in the Matrix.

Hiro & Ando CAUSED the truck to veer off the road and towards the girl in Episode 3. Had they not been there, there would have been no accident.

Therefore, the same thing might be said with the Nuke, or anything else.

oh thats true! What if it happens because of them?!

ahh...a classic case of a predestination paradox!

Hiro and Ando caused the truck to swerve, but perhaps the truck would have clipped the girl leaving her in serious condition otherwise. Of course you can never know, because it may or may not be entirely predestined. Perhaps our junkie friend Isaac will have to stop doing Captain Jack so that he wont be predermining everyone's future. Who knows, maybe he can't see the future, maybe he creates it.

I would have to disagree because if hiro at that time is advanced as he could be he could do anything with time and that includes even changing otherpeoples timelines which means he can unfreeze particular things. I also think what I just said is highly unlikly but could happen. Aswell if he could do what I just explained why didnt he unfreeze Mohinder.

Time is so screwed up anythings possible and its impossible to know where the writers are going with it untill we see it but it is fun to guess!

This is something that really just jumped out at me. Why doesn't future Hiro just go back and tell every single person what needs to be done?

The reason is that he can only stop time for himself, EXCEPT, when Peter is leeching his power. Therefore, Future Hiro has to go through Peter to get his message to himself and everyone else on the "team."

Now that's classic comic book thinking right there! Hiro went back because that's what had already happened! He had to if he wanted to save the world and not create a time/space paradox. Sarah Connor can suck it!

Ahh, I see what you mean. Like, why would Hiro have to go back in time to talk to Peter if they stopped it in the first place? Something like that.

Nice catch!

I think Peter's powers haven't quite developed fully yet. It seems so far like his mimicry has been slightly shabby.

If you think that all that is confusing think about this. The comic which Hiro has been following was made by Isaac. But Hiro got this coimc from the future where the bomb went off. Also in that future Ando was still in japan and had not seen Hiro in five weeks. Now the comic book showed the story of Hiro and Ando going to America togather to stop the bomb, which didn't happen in the time line that the comic was made but is now true becuse of the comic.

I think Isaac sees the most likely future. And that if acted apon it doesn't have to come true.

good point, since isaac painted the comic in a timeline where (we assume...) they DIDNT go to the US, then his paintings dont necessarily have to come true. Nice catch.

Yep..I agree...that's what I think too...coz i've read some comic about time travel too...and yeah..i think it's kinda similar...but dunno yet, coz it's only 4 episodes...so it might turn out to be different...but i agree with theory..

Trouble is, there are ways to explain things in either case, isn't there? It's just to braod a subject for anyone to predict where they're going with this.

Furthermore, since the comic book was in the future, it's actually depicting the past anyway!

I love this kind of stuff. In fact I can't stand to wait for the new episodes, so this evening I'm going to use my time machine and go into the future and view them all.

You see, my future self came back in time and gave me his time machine when he was done using it. Only stipulation is that when I'm done with it, I need to go back in time and give it to myself.