Ard_Choille
Oct 23 2006, 09:01 PM
Multiple-Personality Disorder is not a special ABILITY.
So far, she's been classic MPD (now called dissociative identity disorder). Her conscious/vulnerable self makes bad choices for good reasons and her unconscious/fearless self does the dirty work. She has to confront whatever traumatized her so much to have split her personality. I'm hoping we get to that point soon so we can find out if she really does have special abilities.
Caffeinedd
Oct 23 2006, 09:05 PM
QUOTE (Ard_Choille @ Oct 24 2006, 12:01 AM)

Multiple-Personality Disorder is not a special ABILITY.
So far, she's been classic MPD (now called dissociative identity disorder). Her conscious/vulnerable self makes bad choices for good reasons and her unconscious/fearless self does the dirty work. She has to confront whatever traumatized her so much to have split her personality. I'm hoping we get to that point soon so we can find out if she really does have special abilities.
hahaha...what a let down if she just ends up being a crazy b*#%h.
She seems to be much stronger than normal when her alter ego takes over.
Sort of reminds me of how Isaac's powers only take over when he's tweaked out. I guess both will need to work through their issues to gain control of their powers.
skarekro
Oct 23 2006, 09:10 PM
but look at the new end of episode preview. it seemed like she hit D.L. and he flew hard into the mirror. I think she could be the one to have super strength.
Ard_Choille
Oct 23 2006, 09:13 PM
Her strength doesn't seem out of scope for a personality that has no fear. Someone who is angry and fearless would be stronger just from the adrenaline rush.
It seems to me that if "super strength" was her power, she'd be denting the elevators and sending people flying with her punches. Her strength isn't enough for me to think it's hero power.
Conscious Niki is strong in a soulful way, unconscious Niki is strong in a fearless way. Together they might be the super-power that the team needs. I'm thinking that's what we see in the preview.
skarekro
Oct 23 2006, 09:22 PM
But there are signs pointing to something other than MPD. look at when she first woke up at her house in the first? episode. Her refletion was covered in blood while she was clean.
Ard_Choille
Oct 23 2006, 09:29 PM
QUOTE (skarekro @ Oct 24 2006, 01:22 AM)

But there are signs pointing to something other than MPD. look at when she first woke up at her house in the first? episode. Her refletion was covered in blood while she was clean.
True. I'm not saying there aren't signs.
If we are assuming that what was in the reflection is what she saw...it isn't out of scope as a MPD symptom. The conscious self becoming aware/reminded of the unconscious one happens in mysterious ways. Either way, something needed to make her realize that fearless Niki is in there.
I do think there are signs but her true power is yet to be revealed. Her egos need to merge to reveal it, IMO.
Kelvax
Oct 23 2006, 11:10 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, but MPD is usually brought about by a traumatic experience, one that is so disturbing that the mind can not deal with it. The healthy personality is shattered and shards of that personality are established to deal with the situation. One personality might know what is going on while another personality is kept in the dark for its protection.
Applying this to Niki, she could have had the power (Super-Strength/Fighting Skill) all along and possibly used it to kill the men D.L. has been framed for killing. Micah says that his father is innocent and Ikin left Niki directions to the location of the bodies. With D.L. coming back, her two personalities may be confronted with the truth, and thus may learn that Niki has the same ability as Ikin, but that she has shut it off in order to preserve her sanity.
JyNxNeSs
Oct 23 2006, 11:12 PM
QUOTE (Kelvax @ Oct 24 2006, 07:10 AM)

Correct me if I am wrong, but MPD is usually brought about by a traumatic experience, one that is so disturbing that the mind can not deal with it. The healthy personality is shattered and shards of that personality are established to deal with the situation. One personality might know what is going on while another personality is kept in the dark for its protection.
Applying this to Niki, she could have had the power (Super-Strength/Fighting Skill) all along and possibly used it to kill the men D.L. has been framed for killing. Micah says that his father is innocent and Ikin left Niki directions to the location of the bodies. With D.L. coming back, her two personalities may be confronted with the truth, and thus may learn that Niki has the same ability as Ikin, but that she has shut it off in order to preserve her sanity.
all i know is that nathan said to nikki before they seperated in episode 5 that the other nikki was everything this nikki should want to be or wanted to be...fine, courageus , strong, willing and some other stuff he mentioned
spyda
Oct 24 2006, 12:22 AM
niki clearly has superstrength... she sent DL flying in the preview, and ripped a the henchman in half.. not to metion all the sounds from the first ep.. shes the hulk
Merritt
Oct 24 2006, 06:09 AM
QUOTE (spyda @ Oct 24 2006, 04:22 AM)

niki clearly has super strength... she sent DL flying in the preview, and ripped a the henchman in half.. not to metion all the sounds from the first ep.. shes the hulk
The next episode is really going to bring her story in to the light.
Her super strength, what she really is and what is going to developed along her story lines.
It seems clear to me that after her mirror self plots to destroy her ex-husband she realizes that she can not control this beast within and leaves micah to his father.
That is when she will confront her inner demon and learn to control it turning her in to a force to be reckoned with. Or she will lose her battle and become truly evil and work with "bad" peter when he struggles with taking the righteous path or the quick and easy path.
I have a hard time liking her character but i am holding out for her because she could have a brilliant role if written correctly
Briar
Oct 24 2006, 06:40 AM
just a thought:
what if Niki was created by Ikin?
we're all assuming the reverse, that Niki is the first personality and Ikin is the splinter.
If Ikin was really first, maybe the crisis of having her husband brought up on murder charges and such, plus the other corpses she dug up while disposing of hte thugs, created that splinter personality.
i don't think that ikin is evil, just that she is amoral. she does what needs to be done, when it needs to get done. she doesn't have qualms about seducing a politician as blackmail to keep the thugs off Niki and Micah, and she certainly didn't have much remorse when knocking off those two thugs who were getting frisky.
i think if you temper Ikin's amoralality and remorselessness with Niki's standard morals and slight tendencies to go all panicky (she nearly spazzed when hte cops said DL would be on his way to her house) she will be quite formidable.
but until her two have collide and fuse, she'll be the unstable nut-job of the group.
Ard_Choille
Oct 24 2006, 10:50 AM
QUOTE (Briar @ Oct 24 2006, 10:40 AM)

until her two have collide and fuse, she'll be the unstable nut-job of the group.
Yes, and until they fuse, we won't know the FULL EXTENT of her abilities. I think we'll see her confront the trauma that split her ego in the next episode.
ROCKYROADBK
Oct 24 2006, 10:56 AM
QUOTE (Briar @ Oct 24 2006, 06:40 AM)

just a thought:
what if Niki was created by Ikin?
we're all assuming the reverse, that Niki is the first personality and Ikin is the splinter.
If Ikin was really first, maybe the crisis of having her husband brought up on murder charges and such, plus the other corpses she dug up while disposing of hte thugs, created that splinter personality.
i don't think that ikin is evil, just that she is amoral. she does what needs to be done, when it needs to get done. she doesn't have qualms about seducing a politician as blackmail to keep the thugs off Niki and Micah, and she certainly didn't have much remorse when knocking off those two thugs who were getting frisky.
i think if you temper Ikin's amoralality and remorselessness with Niki's standard morals and slight tendencies to go all panicky (she nearly spazzed when hte cops said DL would be on his way to her house) she will be quite formidable.
but until her two have collide and fuse, she'll be the unstable nut-job of the group.
I think that her split persona set UP DL from the start, if you read the comic DL entends to figure out who set him up! and u notice how she keeps blaiming DL for everything that has been happening to her as of late, and we all know for a fact that it was her other side, so its safe to assume that she unknowling put DL in the mess he is in NOW!
HolyHellraiser
Oct 24 2006, 10:57 AM
which came first the chicken or the egg?
assuming that it is mpd its seems unlikly that nikki b was the first personality the tramatic event that caused the split would create a personality to deal with that kind of event that the originall personality couldnt handle so it stands to reason that the direct willfull nikkie b would be born from that kind of trama
The Alternative One
Oct 24 2006, 11:10 AM
QUOTE (Ard_Choille @ Oct 24 2006, 12:13 AM)

Her strength doesn't seem out of scope for a personality that has no fear. Someone who is angry and fearless would be stronger just from the adrenaline rush.
It seems to me that if "super strength" was her power, she'd be denting the elevators and sending people flying with her punches. Her strength isn't enough for me to think it's hero power.
Conscious Niki is strong in a soulful way, unconscious Niki is strong in a fearless way. Together they might be the super-power that the team needs. I'm thinking that's what we see in the preview.
I would tend to agree with some of this except for one thing. The mirror identity of Niki, as seen in many instances, does things that Niki1 does not. The finger to the lips in the classic "shush" motion comes to mind. Mirror Niki makes this gesture while the other Niki does not. This is the classic Dr. Jeckyl/Mr. Hyde ability/power and not multiple personalities.
yo_jlang1
Oct 24 2006, 11:13 AM

i think her mpd is a ability or the other side has one like super stregth or something like that.
Nambrosia
Oct 24 2006, 11:51 AM
mpd would not be my diagnosis for Nikki, due to the clues that she only has one alternate personality. Generally mpd is formed during childhood after repeated sexual trauma, during which the child fantasizes themselves away, creating a seperate person to take over. The format of repetative trauma, with the need for multiple splits, thereby infers the multiple personalities.
There is also split personality disorder, which is when the personality splits just once, leaving two personalities in the same person, completely unaware of each other and their actions (think Fight Club). She could very well be merging the two personalities, hence the mirror image issues.
But, I find it curious to note that right before the elevator scene, her mirror image appears (aka bad nikki) in the relfection of the elevator. This indicates a knowing that her services would be required. Perhaps a link to Micah always 'knowing' things? Perhaps a hint to the origin of her sons powers?
She deffinately has super strength, and at least a slight ability to foresee when her abilities will be required. I adore her plot line.
nychulo3
Oct 24 2006, 11:51 AM
I am also thinking that she was the one who set up DL, however she probably did it unintentionally. The cop did say the gun was found in the house, and I believe that he is innocent.
EvilSandwich
Oct 24 2006, 03:07 PM
QUOTE (HolyHellraiser @ Oct 24 2006, 02:57 PM)

which came first the chicken or the egg?
The chicken. But I disgress.
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