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CerealKiller
Mommy has an alter ego and Daddy can seemingly walk through walls.

So what are your predictions on IF, WHEN, and WHAT Micah's power will be.

There is already plenty of circumstantial evidence that the hero-gene runs in families, with Nathan and Peter Petrelli (and possibly their father) both having powers.

My guess is that he'll have some sort of autism-like power. Something where he can calculate... an extension of his "boy genius" status.
Sidney
Micah knows things that there's no way he could know about. Two episodes ago he made a throwaway comment revealing he knew DL's whereabouts. In last week's episode he revealed that he knew about Niki's webcam biz as well as Linderman wanting her to whore herself out to Nathan. Then in the preview for next week, it shows that he knows Niki has a power.

This kid has got to have some type of ability. Maybe super hearing or just super intelligence where he pretty much knows everything. The latter could be supported by the fact that he's constantly fixing complex computer chips just with a screwdriver and soldering gun.
CerealKiller
Oh good call.
JyNxNeSs
QUOTE (Sidney @ Oct 24 2006, 06:31 AM) *
Micah knows things that there's no way he could know about. Two episodes ago he made a throwaway comment revealing he knew DL's whereabouts. In last week's episode he revealed that he knew about Niki's webcam biz as well as Linderman wanting her to whore herself out to Nathan. Then in the preview for next week, it shows that he knows Niki has a power.

This kid has got to have some type of ability. Maybe super hearing or just super intelligence where he pretty much knows everything. The latter could be supported by the fact that he's constantly fixing complex computer chips just with a screwdriver and soldering gun.

maybe he just knows this by reading the comic books...and really hasn't manifested his power yet or started to he could just be smart
gijosh
he's gonna be like super genius boy. he always fixing stuff with common household stuff
HolyHellraiser
as of now there is no evidence that he has powers everything he knows is adequitly explained by him being a boy genius but i do think he has powers because it would make since that it runs in families and its entirly possible that his powers make him seem like a genious when hes not but i personally dont believe that

maybe its like x-men and their powers dont manifest till puberty but i dunno theres more to him than there letting on
SuperPolitician
I think there will be a story arc where the heroes, or just Niki and D.L, are all kinda using their powers to protect Micah from Sylar or someone else. My thinking is that, he's after Claire's powers, he'll probably go after Micahs' next. Having TWO superpowered parents would give him some NICE powers right?
mutant freak
I'm kind of hoping that Micah will be the one who figures out the elder Suresh's algorithm. But that means he would have to meet Mohinder at some point, and see the algorithm running.
Timinator2k6
If Micah really does have powers, isn't it possible that it could be a combination of hos parants' powers. His mothers alter ego like power and his father traveling through wall power?

That would be kinda interesting to see a mixture o those two powers.
HolyHellraiser
that would be cool but i boubt it because the Patreli (sp?) brothers powers are so different it seems unlikely that it works that way but i dunno
HirosKatana
QUOTE (Timinator2k6 @ Oct 24 2006, 11:54 PM) *
If Micah really does have powers, isn't it possible that it could be a combination of hos parants' powers. His mothers alter ego like power and his father traveling through wall power?


Walking through walls (and maybe invisibility). We've seen that kind of thing before--though I'll admit that Sylar in the FBI looked like a white dude to me. Still, it would be fun to see Sylar as Micah's dad ("Micah, I am your father. Use the dark side...").
Vulcanius
QUOTE (HirosKatana @ Oct 24 2006, 08:32 PM) *
Walking through walls (and maybe invisibility). We've seen that kind of thing before--though I'll admit that Sylar in the FBI looked like a white dude to me. Still, it would be fun to see Sylar as Micah's dad ("Micah, I am your father. Use the dark side...").


Lol. The problem with people basing any ideas about Sylar off the "Sylar" from the FBI building with Matt and Audrey is that he is not the official actor. He was just a stand-in for the time being. Sylar in the end will most likely resemble him, if not actually being the same guy. As of right now people should think of Sylar as nothing more than a man in the shadows.
Spyderphreek
So, if we go off the premise that this show is loosely based off of the X-men mythology, then it stands to reason that Micah may have similar but not the same powers as his parents powers. Why? 3 primary examples I can think of right now: Banshee's Daughter Siren, Jean & Scott's daughter Phoenix, and Jean & Scott's son Cable. All three of these children show similar abilities as their parents, but do not exhibit the exact same powers of any. The only exception is Siren, who comes only from 1 super-parent (Banshee). Micah could have varying degrees of their combined powers, as such, I put forth this theory on his powers.

Niki/Ikin(Jessica) seems to have super strength and an indomitable will.

DL is a phase shifter (possibly also invisibility).

Both appear to be cunning and, in regards to their family, ruthless.

Micah show signs of super intelligence, resourcefullness, and ingenuity. Micah could have gotten the cunning from both, and through mutation, Niki's strength, only it manifested in his brain. Making his problem solving "super strong". This portion of his brain could be the part of DL's brain that allows him to phase shift, an extension of the fight or flight response. Remember that Micah likes books, games and fixing things. All of these could be attributed to his sense of curiosity/problem solving. I agree it will probably be him that leads to solving the algorithm.

What do you think?
corvin12xu
I see Micah having the ability to manipulate other people with mind control and telekinnesis which would go with his elivated intelligence and also be like an extension of his parents powers (Nikki-bezerker, DL-phase shifter) done mentally.
Verbal
QUOTE (mutant freak @ Oct 24 2006, 07:31 PM) *
I'm kind of hoping that Micah will be the one who figures out the elder Suresh's algorithm. But that means he would have to meet Mohinder at some point, and see the algorithm running.


:jawdrop: Excellent posting. I agree whole-heartedly.
jw0ollard
QUOTE (Spyderphreek @ Oct 25 2006, 11:12 AM) *
So, if we go off the premise that this show is loosely based off of the X-men mythology, then it stands to reason that Micah may have similar but not the same powers as his parents powers.


I gave up on that idea when Peter had a completely different power than his brother Nathan.

In the X-men universe, the offspring would have similar powers to their parents and siblings. The three Summers brothers Cyclops, Havok, and Vulcan, all had some form of energy burst or energy manipulation.

Unless Peter and Nathan aren't related by blood they officially ruined my hopes of them using the X-men mythology. Unless of course Peter and Nathan's mother AND father both had super powers.
jw0ollard
QUOTE (GeneM @ Oct 25 2006, 02:27 PM) *
I think this is a big part of it. Remember that Micah reads the 9th Wonders books as well. He may not have known what the Hiro story referred to, but certainly he would have recognized his parents (and maybe even himself) while reading them.

I don't think so... The only comic we know that has been released (in the present) is the one with Uluru, the rock monster on the cover.

We know from "Collision" that Isaac didn't paint or draw the rock monster while he was high.

Therefore, I don't think any of the comics that have been released yet have ANYthing about the future in them.

Also, the Pilot was when Isaac's paintings started coming true.. and we've basically kept track of everything he's painted since... and none of it ever involved Niki or Micah.

I'm pretty sure Micah is just a genius and figured out everything out on his own. The theory that his superpower is omniscience is really, really exciting. That would make Micah one of the most important characters of the group!
GeneM
QUOTE (JyNxNeSs @ Oct 24 2006, 01:38 AM) *
maybe he just knows this by reading the comic books...and really hasn't manifested his power yet or started to he could just be smart

I think this is a big part of it. Remember that Micah reads the 9th Wonders books as well. He may not have known what the Hiro story referred to, but certainly he would have recognized his parents (and maybe even himself) while reading them.
Nambrosia
QUOTE (mutant freak @ Oct 24 2006, 07:31 PM) *
I'm kind of hoping that Micah will be the one who figures out the elder Suresh's algorithm. But that means he would have to meet Mohinder at some point, and see the algorithm running.


Micah could SO figure it out. that would be the deffinate proof Mohinder would need (FINALLY). He needs to stop being so damn doubtful. I betcha he has a power. Just to mess with his oh so skeptical self. Either that, or his father did.
steve2112
I think the boy genius thing is his power. He could have a power like Forge. Just extraordinary ability with technology.

They cast that part very well. the kid who plays the character is a concert pianist. It says in his bio he played the sidney operahouse at the age of 3!

remember that line in the commercials where they say "i'm not a doctor, but I play one on tv". His case is I'm a genius and I play one on tv...
roxygr1223
i dont think they will make it super smartness...cuz that is what everyone is expecting, i think it will be a totally obscure power
AznPride
He's like MacGyver (sp?) reincarnated into a six(age?) year old boy child body!
Franzinator
QUOTE (jw0ollard @ Oct 25 2006, 12:44 PM) *
We know from "Collision" that Isaac didn't paint or draw the rock monster while he was high.

Therefore, I don't think any of the comics that have been released yet have ANYthing about the future in them.


We already know it has a DIRECT corrilation with the future remember how Hiro convinced Ando to do the quest in the first place!
Dragonfire
QUOTE (AznPride @ Oct 25 2006, 09:56 PM) *
He's like MacGyver (sp?) reincarnated into a six(age?) year old boy child body!


That's what I was thinking too. tongue.gif

But I seriously think his power will be super intelligence. And I can see a future plot being all the heroes trying to protect him from someone.
HolyHellraiser
QUOTE (jw0ollard @ Oct 25 2006, 01:44 PM) *
Also, the Pilot was when Isaac's paintings started coming true.. and we've basically kept track of everything he's painted since... and none of it ever involved Niki or Micah.


He didnt start making psychic pictures after the eclips he sketched a picture of peter and simone kissing in the rain under an umbrella i think he said six weeks before it happened so it is possible that he could have published comix that predict the future and I thought i saw a picture that could've been nikki in Isaacs sketchbook it was a rough sketch of a woman facing you lieing on her stomach i think wearing a neckless if somebody can find a picture of that to put up because i was wondering if that was nikki or not and what it may predict and if it is that could me he is having predictions about nikki and that micah could have read them but i'm not sure because all of his predictions revolve around the nuke and how to stop it i don't know why he would have predictions about her unless shes involved with the nuke

QUOTE (Franzinator @ Oct 26 2006, 12:02 AM) *
We already know it has a DIRECT corrilation with the future remember how Hiro convinced Ando to do the quest in the first place!


but that comic is from the future and it only "predics" things that happened weeks before it was written so that actually hurts the argument that he is releasing comics at this time that predict the future

Edit

no wait the first part is a prediction sorry but when hiro goes back in time with it its umm a future book predicting the past because.. hiro and... comic... i've confused myself time travel hard
A z t e x
By reading the comic books he would be seeing the continual insight into Hiro's and most probably his own future.

Micah would have a superpower, although it doesn't have to be a combination of his parents.

QUOTE (Spyderphreek @ Oct 26 2006, 01:12 AM) *
Micah show signs of super intelligence, resourcefullness, and ingenuity. Micah could have gotten the cunning from both, and through mutation, Niki's strength, only it manifested in his brain. Making his problem solving "super strong". This portion of his brain could be the part of DL's brain that allows him to phase shift, an extension of the fight or flight response. Remember that Micah likes books, games and fixing things. All of these could be attributed to his sense of curiosity/problem solving. I agree it will probably be him that leads to solving the algorithm.


I really like this idea! A LOT! although I don't think intelligence is his super power. but we'll see!
Keshire
I beleive his ability is a supernatural Insight.

Insight
  • an instance of apprehending the true nature of a thing, esp. through intuitive understanding: an insight into 18th-century life.
  • penetrating mental vision or discernment; faculty of seeing into inner character or underlying truth.
  • Psychology.
    • an understanding of relationships that sheds light on or helps solve a problem.
    • (in psychotherapy) the recognition of sources of emotional difficulty.
    • an understanding of the motivational forces behind one's actions, thoughts, or behavior; self-knowledge.
  • The capacity to discern the true nature of a situation; penetration.
  • The act or outcome of grasping the inward or hidden nature of things or of perceiving in an intuitive manner
Vasagi
QUOTE (mutant freak @ Oct 24 2006, 07:31 PM) *
I'm kind of hoping that Micah will be the one who figures out the elder Suresh's algorithm. But that means he would have to meet Mohinder at some point, and see the algorithm running.

Now THAT is an interesting thought. I'd put money on that hunch.
Darin
QUOTE (Keshire @ Oct 26 2006, 05:10 AM) *
I beleive his ability is a supernatural Insight.


At the very, very least, really good normal insight.

I got, from the Micah comments, that he was just a mature kid, but just that. A kid, for instance, who might not have been able to resist a "Don't go into the garage, Micah." Sneaking around and prying into adult stuff can be fun. I think I remember that! Even if he didn't do that, kids can pick up on things their parents are trying to keep secret, and Micah's home situation unfortunately made him grow up a little faster than he should have.

As for familial powers, I think that the powers running in families is key. The whole idea behind the show is that these people have genetic alterations that manifest in lots of different ways at different times in their lives. I think what is passed on is the dramatically increased likelihood of this category of mutations, not the specific mutations themselves.
Doxy
QUOTE (Darin @ Oct 26 2006, 11:18 AM) *
At the very, very least, really good normal insight.

I got, from the Micah comments, that he was just a mature kid, but just that. A kid, for instance, who might not have been able to resist a "Don't go into the garage, Micah." Sneaking around and prying into adult stuff can be fun. I think I remember that! Even if he didn't do that, kids can pick up on things their parents are trying to keep secret, and Micah's home situation unfortunately made him grow up a little faster than he should have.

As for familial powers, I think that the powers running in families is key. The whole idea behind the show is that these people have genetic alterations that manifest in lots of different ways at different times in their lives. I think what is passed on is the dramatically increased likelihood of this category of mutations, not the specific mutations themselves.


This is along the lines of what I was thinking. I think he's just an intuitive, observant, and intelligent young man. While he might ocassionally show some exceptional leap in thought, none of that is unheard of in "normal" folk. In fact, I wish more people were as observant to the world around them.

If being a "hero" is the expression of a gene, and assuming that the 'hero' gene is a recessive one (if it was dominant, wouldnt more people be heroes like they do brown hair?), and 'Normal' is dominant: Niki being hero-recessive, DL being hero-recessive, there is a larger possibility that Micah is either Normal-Normal or Normal(hero-recessive). He could be the carrier of the hero-recessive gene and pass it on to his children if he breeds with someone of the same.

edit:
This is all assuming that being a hero is the normal expression of genes and not something else. But when I think about it farther, if that is the case, if both Niki and DL were hh (hero recessive) Micah should also be hh. unless Hero is really the dominant (new? not sure) which Micah has greater chances of being either HH or Hn and if he's normal (I hope) he'd be nn (normal recessive).

While it seems most people want to see Micah as expressing some sort of hero-power, I'd like to see him stay a 'normal'. I find it much more interesting to see how this smart kid, but still a kid, deal with these adult heroes accumulating around him (if they keep connecting with each other, they'll connect with him).
nintendo-fanboy
I think that Micah's ability might be Astral (sp?) projection. Think about it. Combining second body plus moving through walls should be a second body. If his Dad knew about his power, then Micah could find and see his Dad when Micah was 'asleep'. He also could have projected himself to hear what was being said to his Mom at the casino.
If it isnt that, then Id have to say that it isnt important enough for the series to mention it.
kimkim
so i have been thinking this over for what seems ages...

9th wonders..Huh? being that the comic has hero and is seeming to be part of the future...then my thinking that 9 meens the heroes in it?

1Claire Bennet
2 D.L. Hawkins
3 Isaac Mendez
4 Hiro Nakamura
5 Matt Parkman
6 Nathan Petrelli
7 Peter Petrelli
8 Niki Sanders

9 Micah Sanders?

just to get you thinking..
psylock
weeeell if it only manifests in puberty then why does peter JUST discovered his powers ... i really dont know but maybe he as some sort of telepathical powers or somethin
blink.gif atanyrate we just need to wait
QUOTE (HolyHellraiser @ Oct 24 2006, 09:22 PM) *
as of now there is no evidence that he has powers everything he knows is adequitly explained by him being a boy genius but i do think he has powers because it would make since that it runs in families and its entirly possible that his powers make him seem like a genious when hes not but i personally dont believe that

maybe its like x-men and their powers dont manifest till puberty but i dunno theres more to him than there letting on
gijosh
I think Micah will recognize Ando, and begin putting pieces together on his own. I also believe that he will be key in figuring out what I am calling "the green matrix thingy, with the DNA symbol" on Mohinder's comp.
Darin
QUOTE (Doxy @ Oct 26 2006, 01:50 PM) *
If being a "hero" is the expression of a gene, and assuming that the 'hero' gene is a recessive one (if it was dominant, wouldnt more people be heroes like they do brown hair?), and 'Normal' is dominant: Niki being hero-recessive, DL being hero-recessive, there is a larger possibility that Micah is either Normal-Normal or Normal(hero-recessive). He could be the carrier of the hero-recessive gene and pass it on to his children if he breeds with someone of the same.

edit:
This is all assuming that being a hero is the normal expression of genes and not something else. But when I think about it farther, if that is the case, if both Niki and DL were hh (hero recessive) Micah should also be hh. unless Hero is really the dominant (new? not sure) which Micah has greater chances of being either HH or Hn and if he's normal (I hope) he'd be nn (normal recessive).

I hope Micah stays smart but normal as well!

Okay, I think, due to your observations above, that the genetics must go above straight dominant/recessive in terms of expression. This could lead to many, many paths which are just twisting my brain...

1) Any hero expression might be caused by any mutation or change in a certain gene (one hero could have base pairs cut out or overexpressed, another could have wacky chromosome structure with the actual sequence unaltered). So, if Niki and DL have different mutations and pass them on to Micah, Micah would presumably be a hero due to having at least one change in that gene. Boo!

2) Thus far, most of the heroes we have met are men. Since they're not all men, this gene doesn't reside on the Y chromosome. But something makes the men more prone to this mutation. Maybe the gene is X-linked. This is going to get hairy.

So, the hero expression is recessive. It lives somewhere on the X chromosome. In order for a woman to be a hero, she must have mutations in both of her X's. For a man, all he would need is one mutation in his X (since the Y wouldn't interfere or matter, and you don't normally get YY men. ). That would mean that Micah is definitely a hero because his mom had mutations in both genes. Boo as well!

Okay, brain hurts. I could go on, and prob. will at some point. The most distracting part is that it's probably not just one gene but several. Ack!

Thus far these men heroes are pretty attractive. Maybe that's a linked gene. :-)
Um... Hi
Magnetic Field Manipulation.

Well you asked, and I told. Sure it might be electronic-ish.. might as well give him something that he could jack with a lot. And plus I just like Magneto.
Temprah
what about a "mutant" sensing ability, a la Caliban? Hence he knew when his Dad was close by.. No real evidence, just throwing it out there *shrug*
SimoneD
Does anyone know when Micah's powers will be revealed?
ImSPECIAL
I belive that micah can control technolodgy. I posted this a little late but in a episode it shows him running his hand along a broken telephone and it starts to work again... at least until D.L. comes out.
idallia
FYI, Micah's power was not revealed until Episode 7.
thefatindian
yeah...this topic is in the wrong category...but whatever
I thought it was technological at first too
right now, I'm not sure anymore.
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