According to the bill, Nathan arrived at 12:22am on 10/5. And he will leave "tomorrow".

See here:



Now, I have a little problem with that...when Niki and Nathan have their little get-together the security cam that HRG is watching shows about 10:30pm. How does that work?
Anyway, I have trouble to believe this, because Nathan wouldn't arrive in the middle of the night, I think. Doesn't matter, because we know it was 10:30pm when Niki B went down on Nathan.

I have to ask again...why put these things in plain sight and have a (seemingly) glaring mistake on them? Am I missing something? Is there a trick here I don't get?

Maybe it's NYC time on the bill? Why would it be, though? Have to admit, that would work, because then it would be 9:22pm Vegas time...hm. Guess so?

PS: For some reason I can't use attachment any more. I just put the big picture in here, although it messes up the thread a bit.

Hm ... weird.

I don't see the problem. Why can't Nathan arrive at a Vegas hotel at 12:22am, then go out and do whatever? Then later on that night he hooks up with Niki at 10:30pm then gets kidnapped.

My thoughts exactly, Disposable Hero. I'm not getting what Abraxas is trying to say.

Maybe he got confused? He's thinking of 10:30 being 2 hours before 12:30, when in actuality, on the same day, 10:30 isn't two hours before 12:30, its 10 hours LATER...

wow I just confused mySELF

Assuming checkout is at noon that would mean that Nathan was in vegas for about 36 hours. Plenty of time to get it on w. Niki.

10/5 midnight to 10/6 midnight =24 hours
10/6 midnight to 10/6 noon = 12 hours

22 hours later. but you're right.

He stayed two nights. The night of Oct 4th (which technically runs until sunrise of Oct 5th) and the night of Oct 5th.

It could also be simpler than that, and it's just prop paper. Made up to look real, but not necessarily trying to keep with the details. The fact that we can Tivo now and go back and take screenshots may not have been on the prop persons mind at the time.

The security cam shows 10:30pm on 10/4. Why do I know it's 10/4? I can't explain. Look for the chronology I put up, it's in my signature.

Or let me try, briefly:
I come out and say it is fact that we have seen 4 days (starting on 10/1), including episode 4, in NYC (currently we are already on 10/5). Just follow the events and they always wrap up to the next day. (If they don't, it will make Niki's timeline an even bigger mess, but let's forget about that for the time being.)
That means, it's 10/4 right then, when Nathan is on his way to Vegas.
Peter is going over to Mohinder that day, then he's on the subway and in this episode we saw him at Isaac's, which must be 10/5. Why?
Because of Hiro and Ando. The phone calls Hiro makes connect Tokyo with NYC, so I can safely say it's 10/4 in Tokyo when they go to Vegas (because Isaac received the call on 10/3 in NYC) and they will end up in 10/4 in Vegas, because of time zones.
Now, it doesn't matter how long they could stay at the Montecito without anything to tell me what time it is. Because we have Peter and he gets a call by Hiro in this episode. Hiro is 3 hours earlier than Peter. That means, since Peter is on 10/5 (I hope you can agree with me on this), Hiro can't be on 10/6 or something. It must be 10/5 in Vegas.
And that means, Hiro and Nathan meeting at the diner was the morning of 10/5.

If you try to follow this argument, I can finish this up. (I had a hard time getting it right, because this stuff, believe it or not...even though I actually posted a timeline, confuses the hell out of me. Once I get to one point, I forget about the other. That's why I need it written down or I will simply not get heads nor tails of anything, any more.)

So, Nathan and Hiro is 10/5. I pass it on as fact. Nathan arrived 10/5 at the Montecito. Now tell me...is there 10:30pm between 12:22am (Nathan's arrival) and morning/noon of 10/5 (Nathan and Hiro talk), when he could have had sex with Niki? That's the other half of the day. Which means, the 12:22am on the bill is either not Vegas time or this is wrong (if everything I pieced together so far is right...if not, we can just finish talking about this, of course).

Two things you have to know:
1. I agree that Nathan might have stayed at the Montecito for a day and all this is ok. But he didn't. I just tried to explain, why.
2. My assumption: He leaves 10/6. When he signs the bill he's not leaving. It is not 10/6. It is 10/5 and he will leave tomorrow, in terms of the show. If this assumption is wrong, no biggie, then it's 10/6 for Nathan at the end of this episode...doesn't change my point.

Just to comment on that last part, but this is actually not important for the topic at hand:
Mixing up two stories in the same time zone (Niki and Nathan) is not good style, but I can't assume that they won't do it (assuming won't get you anywhere with Niki's timeline, anyway) and I consider it possible. Which means, it could be 10/6 when Nathan signs the bill and he's leaving right then.
But, as I said, the topic is his arrival and not his departure.


Freelancer:
I have watched 5 episodes of this show. In every single episode they put some kind of paper or book with writing in the shots. They really shouldn't make any mistakes with those. But I have to assume they did, you are right. Or else...uh-oh.
Or else I will give up on timelines, right now. Promised. I don't need them.
LOL

Edit: Sorry, I got confused about those damn dates there for a sec...no, it doesn't destroy my whole argument, it was just a mix-up right on the top. Now it's ok.

Yeah I think thats a little to much speculation or looking for something that isnt there. The bill probably written up by a temp is probably just wrong or info given there up ohhh i think i just went cross eyed. I dunno just seems normal to me!

if you look at the line item statement there is two billings for transient room. Now, assuming the bill happens in sequential order,
he paid for one night, went to the bar and grill, went to the restaurant, then the second night charge was added. Unless they have a very peculiar billing methodology.
One could argue that it was 1 charge for the first room and 1 charge for the second room (transient room means two connected rooms you can walk through, yes?) but why would those charges be seperated by two restaurant bills?

Thus the line date at the top was a mistake.
Easter Egg!

Or was it..?

Maybe Linderman's concierge changed the dates on the bill to try and cover up the fact Nathan stayed there and got screwed (lol pun) by Niki.

And... why did I just waste 5 minutes of my life obsessing over this detail?

Wow!
Hey, you know what? I thought the EXACT same thing, yesterday...

But I agree, that was probably just looking for something that isn't there. It's a mistake, I'd say.

If you wonder what my problem with a simple mistake is, that's quite easy. I was trying to keep a timeline and I'm looking for clues like that. Now, the show has dropped such clues - not just about the timeline - in every episode, mostly more than one, or even loads of them. Those are my pointers for that timeline. If they make mistakes, I will make mistakes and soon this will all be a mess nobody can untangle.
When I watched the episode I saw that you can read what's on the bill and later took a cap of it. Then I saw the date and thought, great, there's another clue. But this one is most likely a mistake.

Don't ask me why I do that...I seem to enjoy it.

I call continuity error.