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Dill0n
while peter is in isaac's loft, he says something about how the paintings fit together like pages in a comic book, and one panel is missing.





isaac had painted a piece that size weeks ago, but simone has taken it to sell in her gallery.

do you think we've seen this panel already?
hulkamania85
I was thinking the panel might have had Claire's location in a text box or something, but that would be too convenient. smile.gif
SOnMyChest
didnt isaac find the picture? what picture was it where he was rubbing out the green pain to reveal some symbol underneath?
szwrld
I was thinking this too when it happened! i want to go back and see if the ones that simone grabbed had anything to do with Claire...
TopCat
This panel/picture has already been posted. If it is thee panle picture its the one Issac painted on Claire and her friend in the school. I'll see if I can find this pic and report back?

TC wink.gif
TopCat
This is what most members think is the MISSING PANLE.

See thread here...

http://www.9thwonders.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=24858

See Picture and missing PANLE/PAINTING? here

http://sv1.letmehost.com/sv1/21/Claire_Zach.PNG

it shows the name of the cheerleading squad? Wildcat Pride.

All peter has to do is go onto goggle and search for any school with a cheerleading squad with the name Wildcat Pride..then hey presto has has the name of the cheerleaders school.
His next step is to goto school and find Claire.

TC wink.gif

PS..ya gotta be a bit of a detective when watching this show lol
Dill0n
doh, just saw the relevant thread ...

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bdawg
but as in other thread...how do we know Claire is the correct cheerleader to save.. i think its another cheerleaders.. maybe who has powers as well... only time will tell. how does claire need saving..when she regenerates..is there a way to kill her permenantly?
Dangard Ace
QUOTE (bdawg @ Oct 31 2006, 12:28 PM) *
but as in other thread...how do we know Claire is the correct cheerleader to save.. i think its another cheerleaders.. maybe who has powers as well... only time will tell. how does claire need saving..when she regenerates..is there a way to kill her permenantly?


Uh you take a stick and shove it in her brain? Basically something that could scramble up her brain would probably kill her. Probably..unless they make her like Plastic Man.
snowmeow9
QUOTE (TopCat @ Oct 31 2006, 11:17 AM) *
This is what most members think is the MISSING PANLE.

See thread here...

http://www.9thwonders.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=24858

See Picture and missing PANLE/PAINTING? here

http://sv1.letmehost.com/sv1/21/Claire_Zach.PNG

it shows the name of the cheerleading squad? Wildcat Pride.

All peter has to do is go onto goggle and search for any school with a cheerleading squad with the name Wildcat Pride..then hey presto has has the name of the cheerleaders school.
His next step is to goto school and find Claire.

TC wink.gif

PS..ya gotta be a bit of a detective when watching this show lol


Because there's only ONE high school in the country with Wildcats as its mascot? huh.gif

The "Wildcat Pride" painting doesn't fit time-wise, either. All the other paintings in the comic are taking place at Homecoming - in the future. As you showed, the Wildcat Pride painting has already taken place. Why would the missing panel be something that takes place weeks before all the others? With no connection to the "action" taking place?
bdawg
QUOTE (Dangard Ace @ Oct 31 2006, 11:30 AM) *
Uh you take a stick and shove it in her brain? Basically something that could scramble up her brain would probably kill her. Probably..unless they make her like Plastic Man.



yea but that pretty much already happend. pull stick out.. shes alive. should be fun to find out tho
jslader
QUOTE (bdawg @ Oct 31 2006, 01:10 PM) *
yea but that pretty much already happend. pull stick out.. shes alive. should be fun to find out tho

We already know Claire dies without her being "saved"-Isaac painted her "death", remember? And sylar is looking for those with special abilities; that only fits Claire. In fact, I don't even buy the theory sylar will initially go after the wrong cheerleader, namely the girl who took credit for Claire's rescue. When he comes looking, he'll know what he's looking for.
jslader
QUOTE (Habbit @ Oct 31 2006, 01:17 PM) *
snowmeow9 is correct... Peter states that the pictures are aligned like a comic book, there's no way something that has already happened would fit.


Keep in mind when Isaac painted it, and probably when Simone took it to be sold, that had not happened yet. Wasn't the first panel missing? That would allow for it to be the missing panel.
georgiablue
QUOTE (SOnMyChest @ Oct 31 2006, 11:52 AM) *
didnt isaac find the picture? what picture was it where he was rubbing out the green pain to reveal some symbol underneath?


that was a picture of unconscious niki. he rubbed away the paint to reveal the symbol that looks like a tattoo on evil niki's shoulder. it corresponds to evil niki after DL phases his hand into her body and incapacitates her.
Habbit
snowmeow9 is correct... Peter states that the pictures are aligned like a comic book, there's no way something that has already happened would fit.
annisa
QUOTE (TopCat @ Oct 31 2006, 12:17 PM) *
This is what most members think is the MISSING PANLE.

See Picture and missing PANLE/PAINTING? here

http://sv1.letmehost.com/sv1/21/Claire_Zach.PNG

it shows the name of the cheerleading squad? Wildcat Pride.

All peter has to do is go onto goggle and search for any school with a cheerleading squad with the name Wildcat Pride..then hey presto has has the name of the cheerleaders school.
His next step is to goto school and find Claire.

TC wink.gif

PS..ya gotta be a bit of a detective when watching this show lol


The only thing with that picture is it is not the right size. The tile that is missing looks like a square, this picture is a rectangle. I think it is the picture where itis easy to see the school emblem or the sign outside the school.
MacAllen
QUOTE (jslader @ Oct 31 2006, 10:17 AM) *
We already know Claire dies without her being "saved"-Isaac painted her "death", remember? And sylar is looking for those with special abilities; that only fits Claire. In fact, I don't even buy the theory sylar will initially go after the wrong cheerleader, namely the girl who took credit for Claire's rescue. When he comes looking, he'll know what he's looking for.


No, we don't know Claire dies, we know a blonde cheerleader dies. The cheerleader who took credit for Claire's rescue was ALSO blonde and ALSO a cheerleader.

Anyone coming to Odessa and asking around for the cheerleader who rescued all those folks would be pointed to this other girl, not Claire.

I believe it's this other girl who get's her head scooped out. It's simple "redneck scriptwriting", they wouldn't have made a point of it and taken up time in the episide to cover it in detail if it didn't come into play later.
Habbit
QUOTE (jslader @ Oct 31 2006, 12:19 PM) *
Keep in mind when Isaac painted it, and probably when Simone took it to be sold, that had not happened yet. Wasn't the first panel missing? That would allow for it to be the missing panel.


That still wouldn't make any sense... In a comic one scene doesn't take place two weeks before the next, unless it's stated... The paintings of Claire and Zach, the train wreck, and the bus bombing, those were all painted weeks before the past few episodes (basically the pictures were painted in probably the middle of Sept. in the Heroes timeframe.) The series of Claire pictures that Peter and Issac are discussing are (or at least should be) recent paintings, within the last couple of days in the Heroes timeframe (probably the last week of Sept. or the first week of October.)

EDIT: 'Read' the scene from the last scene on the right to the bottom scene and up. Now try and fit the Claire and Zach picture in the panel. It doesn't work.

I was just now thinking, there are episode stills of Claire and Peter meeting at her school's homecoming and we know the series of pictures painted by Issac and Peter take place during the Wildcats' homecoming... the missing picture could possibly be one of them talking. There are two problems that I see with this, however, 1) it's nowhere near dramatic and 2) Issac has already painted Peter during the homecoming event. Any thoughts?
Dill0n
i know there's a scene where isaac has a bunch of paintings waiting for simone to take, older ones that he's painted. for some reason i'm thinking there was a scene where she's grabbing a bunch that she wants to take, but can't remember what episode it might've been in.

am i imagining things? if not, maybe that scene shows the missing panel.
Hippogirl
QUOTE (MacAllen @ Oct 31 2006, 01:37 PM) *
No, we don't know Claire dies, we know a blonde cheerleader dies. The cheerleader who took credit for Claire's rescue was ALSO blonde and ALSO a cheerleader.

Anyone coming to Odessa and asking around for the cheerleader who rescued all those folks would be pointed to this other girl, not Claire.

I believe it's this other girl who get's her head scooped out. It's simple "redneck scriptwriting", they wouldn't have made a point of it and taken up time in the episide to cover it in detail if it didn't come into play later.


That's definitely a good point. Even if she doesn't get killed, the gal who's pretending to be the real hero might have that lie come back to bite her in the butt.

However, we can't really know that the danger is really in Claire dying, assuming that she is the one at risk (which I'd say she's at some risk, if Sylar is looking for a cheerleader with powers to kill). I'm not convinced that she can really die, but taking out her brain would pretty much do the same thing. She might be able to heal the body parts she has, but there isn't any indication so far that she can actually grow new ones. So losing her brain could leave her in a permanent state of being unable to heal, but not really dead.
MDC
the panel thats missing is the one with hiro and ando at the homecoming dance , where the homecoming banenr is covered in blood. When Isaac places the pictures on the wall that one panel is misisng .. its also square.

The other panel is a good observation about finding claire .. im suprosed Isaac didnt say " wait i have sevral of her pics around , lets look at them all" . Thats why peter hasnt found her yet , and thats the pic Simnom took to be sold.
snowmeow9
QUOTE (MDC @ Oct 31 2006, 01:54 PM) *
the panel thats missing is the one with hiro and ando at the homecoming dance , where the homecoming banenr is covered in blood. When Isaac places the pictures on the wall that one panel is misisng .. its also square.



No, that one is there. It's after the picture of Peter and the locker doors.
Dill0n
as i posted at the very beginning of this thread, here's a cap showing the panels hanging up in isaac's loft ...



... we can see the flying locker doors, the bloody homecoming banner, the scared face of cheerleader, and the looming shadow images. i just need to find that scene where simone is taking the paintings she wants to determine if we do, in fact, catch a glimpse of this missing panel.
Nifty
QUOTE (MacAllen @ Oct 31 2006, 12:37 PM) *
No, we don't know Claire dies, we know a blonde cheerleader dies. The cheerleader who took credit for Claire's rescue was ALSO blonde and ALSO a cheerleader.

Anyone coming to Odessa and asking around for the cheerleader who rescued all those folks would be pointed to this other girl, not Claire.

I believe it's this other girl who get's her head scooped out. It's simple "redneck scriptwriting", they wouldn't have made a point of it and taken up time in the episide to cover it in detail if it didn't come into play later.

No, all we know is that Issac and Peter painted a cheerleader dying (Claire or the other girl.) The motivation for Issac and Peter is to prevent that painting from becoming reality, as well as preventing the nuclear explosion in NYC painting from becoming reality.

So as of right now, we don't know if Issac's future paintings represent the future that could be or the definite future that will be. If the Heroes can't change what happens in Issac's paintings, then we'll have a pretty different show as the Heroes fail in stopping the nuclear device from going off.

Though, it would sew doubt into the Heroes minds if they were not able to prevent the cheerleader painting from coming true, even given their efforts in trying to stop it (regardless if Claire or the other girl is the one that gets sliced up.) "If we can't stop this from happening, how are we going to stop the nuclear explosion from happening?"

There is another explanation for the painting. It's Claire, but she just hasn't healed yet. Perhaps the Heroes intervene at that point and she can heal/recover.
fidorulz
Im curious whos blood in panel 3 with Hiro belongs to. Clair looks non bloody in the next 2 panels
carynkami
I saw some artwork for the show. Without spoiling anything, I think there's going to be a death (or at least a major injury) to one of the Heroes.

I think that's the missing panel.
sniderman
QUOTE (carynkami @ Nov 3 2006, 04:06 AM) *
I saw some artwork for the show. Without spoiling anything, I think there's going to be a death (or at least a major injury) to one of the Heroes.

I think that's the missing panel.
Interesting theory. It may tie in with Future Hiro's comment to Peter:
"I didn't recognize you without the scar."
fidorulz
QUOTE (sniderman @ Nov 3 2006, 06:35 AM) *
Interesting theory. It may tie in with Future Hiro's comment to Peter:
"I didn't recognize you without the scar."


But since the next panel is of Peter shouldn't we see something of that in this one?

Maybe the missing panel is a turning point in Peters power and the next panel is him using this power to make the doors fly.

If we take these panels as a direct comic book interpretation then this leads me to the following thought. If all the panels follow a strait timeline from

Missing panel
Peter with locker doors
Bloody banner
Scared cheerleader face
Shadow over cheerleader on stairs
Shadow over bloody cheerleader body.

There are maybe 2 bad characters involved in this sequence since if Peter seems to be fighting someone then who is chasing the cheerleader at the same time?
BottomlessPitMan
QUOTE (Dill0n @ Oct 31 2006, 11:35 AM) *
i know there's a scene where isaac has a bunch of paintings waiting for simone to take, older ones that he's painted. for some reason i'm thinking there was a scene where she's grabbing a bunch that she wants to take, but can't remember what episode it might've been in.

am i imagining things? if not, maybe that scene shows the missing panel.


There is such a scene... It is in the Fourth Episode entitled Collision... unfortunately most of which is seen is Uluru... there are some other paintings, but they are obscured... at least, from what I remember...
Abraxas
QUOTE (BottomlessPitMan @ Nov 4 2006, 04:11 AM) *
There is such a scene... It is in the Fourth Episode entitled Collision... unfortunately most of which is seen is Uluru... there are some other paintings, but they are obscured... at least, from what I remember...

See my reply here

Those paintings are too big to fit the square that is missing. It has to be a picture the size of the one of Niki in this episode. But that is not the right one, I'm not saying that.
Vogon Poet
Well. I don't think we've seen the painting before. It would have to be of the homecoming, that makes sense.

As for Sylar/whoever is the danger knowing who Claire is, I don't think so. I think he knows that there is a regenerating hero out there and is trying to kill whoever it is. He does not know Claire is the one. So, he's going around and killing people, then removing their brains in case they are the regenerating hero (they would come back to life and be able to identify him, possibly). So it is definitely possible that the dead cheerleader is NOT Claire, as he probably would seek out the other one (and besides which, HRG would probably protect her).
Rocky Dragon
QUOTE (Hippogirl @ Oct 31 2006, 02:45 PM) *
That's definitely a good point. Even if she doesn't get killed, the gal who's pretending to be the real hero might have that lie come back to bite her in the butt.

However, we can't really know that the danger is really in Claire dying, assuming that she is the one at risk (which I'd say she's at some risk, if Sylar is looking for a cheerleader with powers to kill). I'm not convinced that she can really die, but taking out her brain would pretty much do the same thing. She might be able to heal the body parts she has, but there isn't any indication so far that she can actually grow new ones. So losing her brain could leave her in a permanent state of being unable to heal, but not really dead.



Wouldn't the missing painting be the one of Claire running up those bleachers being pursued by that large evil looking shadow (presumably Sylar's)?

Issac painted it right before they went to the scene where Claire and Brody go riding and get crashed into that wall.
ezequiel
Ok, Guys and Gals. Has anyone pay attention to what Isaac saw in his vision? Helllo, It was a clear picture of claire and my next post is going to prove it.

Ok here is the pic:


an hero thanks for the tip.
HERΟ
QUOTE (ezequiel @ Nov 8 2006, 02:56 AM) *
Ok, Guys and Gals. Has anyone pay attention to what Isaac saw in his vision? Helllo, It was a clear picture of claire and my next post is going to prove it.
Or you can edit your current post for efficiency... cool.gif
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