At the end of this episode, if you watch the shots closely, when D.L. sticks his hand into Nikki's chest and stops her heart, they cut a couple times to close ups of Nikki's face. In those close ups, you see DL choking her neck. When you look at the pullback shots where Nikki's on top of DL and he's got his hand inside her ribcage, his other hand is NOT anywhere near her throat.

I'd call that a major goof.

when he first does it, his arm isn't into her chest all that far.





then he seems to reach up through her chest and grabs a tight hold on her throat.



and even though his arm is clearly deeper in her (notice you don't see his gold bracelet any longer), it's kind of difficult to see his hand around her throat in the farther-out shot.



but he definitely still has a tight grip.

didn't his hand go though the bottom of her chest and out the bottom of her neck?
that's what I saw

i just have to say that was a pretty cool scene. not expected it at all. i mean, i knew niki and d.l. were going to be fighting, but wow!

and thanks for the pics,

Don't think it was a goof.

Seemed like DL was chocking the "other" Nikki. The evil Nikki if you will. Thats why you see his hand thru her chest and around the other one's throat.

I can't believe after looking at the freeze frames, people still think this isn't a blatant production error. DL did not reach through Nikki's chest, so that he could then bend at the elbow and again at another joint he just magically evolved inside her ribcage so he could then reach out of her ribcage to wrap his fingers around her throat. Why bother going through her chest? Why not just strangle her?

In the outside shots he's obviously reaching into her ribcage to stop her heart. His forearm doesn't go past the elbow into her chest. He's reached in to grab her heart. In the close-ups, he's strangling her throat.

Look at the pictures again. In the medium shots, neither of his hands are anywhere near her throat. Period. It's a production error. It's a clear as day goof.

If you look at them up close, you'll see the same hand that went through the middle of her coming back out and grabbing her throat. That's not an error if you ask me.

Thats not an error. His hand goes into her chest and emerges from her cleavage. I'm amazed people didn't notice it.

don't really see an error myself. He just reached deeper...

Perhaps some folks got confused with Dill0n's many good screenshots (thanks for the screen caps, by the way:)) so how about I just show two "before/after" shots and you guys take a closer look?




I doubt that's a massive shadow that appears under Jessica's chin and chest in the lower screenshot

i think you are right man.

at the start his hand was directed to her heart

but after micah burged in and shouted mom(not sure for the sequence ill check when i go home but 60% positive) when the camera turned back he was choking her.


i guess he stopped trying to kill her

There's also the scar... mark or whatever that DL seemed to scratch into Nikki's back. Issac also rubbed it into existence on Nikki's back in his painting. But when they cut back to Nikki on the floor... no scar. I don't think it was a goof. Are Issac's paintings another time-line? Did DL effect the inside Nikki but not the outside one? Do we have any answers yet? I'll hold back on the goof grade until I see more.

The tattoo only appears when Jessica is active. ie The Alter Ego.

yeah but really makes me wonder why they showed us isaac scratching off the paint and revealing the tattoo on the painting, right exactly after the scene of niki fighting with dl.

I think they just wanted to make sure that we knew it was Niki B that took the money.

Def. not a goof, thanks for the screens.

Does this mean that NIkki was hollowed out? and will she not remeber anything that happended

D.L. is not the MBG aka "the Haitian" that hangs out with Mr. Bennet (HRG) if that is what you're thinking.

http://www.9thwonders.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=21504

I think he tried to stop her heart to weaken her, then he went for the throat because he either had Micah in his mind or he felt that Niki A was back and went to grab her throat to knock her out for as long as it took him to take the safe route, that is, "the hell away from there".

I agree it appears he changes his mind and goes for her throat..

whatever it is, it is actually really confusing. i am glad i have been reading the forums here because when i saw it (on tv and then again online) i was incredibly confused. the camera angles are rather awkward. it does appear that he has ONE hand on her throat and ANOTHER hand through her chest .. but when i see the forums, then i realize it was the same hand.


wiiiierd. ... and pointless maybe?

i mean, once his hand phases through, doesn't he mess up her insides? or can he morph selectively through things/people? that just seems a little nitpicky. maybe i'm reading into it too much, but it is quite a confusing power to decipher (to the "average" viewer)

So DL has two powers then? He can phase through things AND his right arm can bend like Mister Fantastic? I thought it was one power per person. How come DL got to double dip?

Really, it's absurd that he was reaching through her chest like that AND strangling her throat. I don't care how many powers DL has, human anatomy of forearms don't operate like that.

I looked at the picture again and it looks like his arm is in a position that, if reaching through the chest, he can't even raise the arm and strangle Niki. I guess you are right and this is not possible the way it was shown. The angle is just off.
I don't think it means anything, though.

LMAO! Double dip!

I'm pretty sure that the angles of the camera were showing that while his hand is through Niki's body, he's strangling NikiB (Jessica) inside of her.

So he put his hand in her body and strangled the person inside. IMO that is. That's what it sure looked like, because it would switch from one Camera angle (on the left side far away) with DL's hand in her, adn then switch (on the right side close up) with his hand around the neck. I think the transition of angles shows the difference.

The thing there that still makes it feel weird, is why would grabbing someone in the stomach choke their inner personality by the neck...and I can't believe I just typed such a sentence, in complete seriousness. =)

I'm going to go with DL moving his arm to choke her after he saw what he was doing, and not wanting to actually kill her, since he's not a killer, he just wanted to stop Niki/Jessica.

He lashed out, shoving his hand into Niki, and when he saw what he was doing, and how it was affecting her, he changed what he was doing, and moved his grip upwards.

J