CraigB
Nov 1 2006, 04:05 PM
Talk about Peter Petrelli here!
jettasian
Nov 1 2006, 04:09 PM
Peter's power is still mystery to me. We know he can absorb. But we still don't know much.
Can he retian the power?
Can he absorb more than one power?
What's the approx disttance he can absorb the power?
Will his power grow?
Is there any side-effect on his part, or other Heroes that he absorbs?
Lots of questions...
chevyjock
Nov 1 2006, 04:51 PM
well, i think dont think he has to touch the person, which is a good thing.
Nufnman
Nov 1 2006, 04:53 PM
Side effects I don't think there is any - Because look at his brother there was nothing wrong with his brother after he absorbed his power.
The Riddler
Nov 1 2006, 04:54 PM
I think he can retain, but only for a limited time.
jettasian
Nov 1 2006, 06:16 PM
QUOTE (Nufnman @ Nov 1 2006, 07:53 PM)

Side effects I don't think there is any - Because look at his brother there was nothing wrong with his brother after he absorbed his power.
But he just started. Who knows what would happen if he absorbs more and more from his brother? If his power grows, what will happen? He's almost like "borrowing" or "stealing" someone's power.
I thing there will be consequences.
johncarllos
Nov 1 2006, 06:47 PM
*coughcough*
I've stated this before.
There ARE side effect to the other people when Peter steals powers. When Nathan caught Peter, Nate said he flew right before he caught him, and Nathan dropped him rght after they hit, he was weakened.
Another instance, on the roof where Pete floats, when he walks off the edge, his brother pulls out a hanky and covers his mouth, as in pain or sickness maybe.
AND when he is painting the picture, as soon as he starts, Issac starts coughing like a madman, and didn't before Peter went white eyes.
Peter sucks life to use their powers, and weakens them at the same time.
This is still in the theory stage, but as far as I can recall is accurate.
Sylar Prime
Nov 1 2006, 07:07 PM
Missing one part though. Even though they lost powers then and there, doesn't it seem like they were more powerful afterwards? Nathan could fly much better after the roof top, and as for Issac he remembered the "Mark" o nthe picture of Nikki after his powers were sucked. Maybe after he asorbs he awakens alittle too.
SillyMamma
Nov 1 2006, 08:01 PM
I think Nathan was all tired and sweaty because he'd just run up about 20 flights of stairs to keep his brother from jumping off a roof.
Again.
Agent42
Nov 1 2006, 10:12 PM
Peter's powers are obviously like X-men's Rogue, yet without the ill side effects of endangering their lives.
My own personal belief is he is temporarily able to tap into their powers, but it's the powers that control him -- he doesn't seem to be able to consciously use them.
When he levitates around his brother he doesn't seem to be aware or trying to do it -- the power is levitating him.
When he paints, it seems as though the precognition power takes him over and paints through him.
When he is able to move after Hiro visits him on the subway he looks as though he's just stumbling around, not really concentrating on holding time, as if time holding is doing the work and allowing him to just walk about.
There's something a little tricky about this guy's ability. I think of him more of a conduit for powers to use him, rather than as a cipher who can use others' powers.
I'll probably be proved wrong, but it sure would be an interesting flaw.
Peter Petrelli
Nov 2 2006, 10:35 AM
By the way, love your coat and you look absolutely gorgeous.
Thanks...
Tomcat
Nov 2 2006, 10:58 AM
QUOTE (Agent42 @ Nov 2 2006, 01:12 AM)

Peter's powers are obviously like X-men's Rogue, yet without the ill side effects of endangering their lives.
It's not that obvious. In the 90's, there was a comic called Generation X about a new Mutant superteam. There was a mutant named Sync who could use the powers of any mutant in close proximity, with no side effects. Peter's power actually seems closer to Sync's than Rogue's, who has to touch people and then absorbs a heck of a lot more than just their power.
Tom
jettasian
Nov 2 2006, 02:15 PM
So why is Peter picked as "the one" to save the cheerleader? I know he's the only one who didn't freeze and got FutureHiro's message. But I don't think that's the reason.
So there must be something about Peter that he's destined to be the one. Is it because of his power? But if he can't retain the power, then what's the point?
TuckerJameson
Nov 2 2006, 02:56 PM
Since Peter can absorb the powers of other Heroes, It would make sense for Peter to be the one or leader of the bunch. Because through he absorbtion of powers he can be the strongest of them all and only strong when the heroes stick together. I think we will find that Peter becomes the leader because he will gain more control over his power and beable to choose which powers of other to use at what times when masny heroes are around him.
tracepac
Nov 2 2006, 04:39 PM
QUOTE (Tomcat @ Nov 2 2006, 10:58 AM)

It's not that obvious. In the 90's, there was a comic called Generation X about a new Mutant superteam. There was a mutant named Sync who could use the powers of any mutant in close proximity, with no side effects. Peter's power actually seems closer to Sync's than Rogue's, who has to touch people and then absorbs a heck of a lot more than just their power.
Tom
How about Mimic? Can Peter use any one else's powers? Like the Marvel character? Mimic can then continue to use those powers that he has "learned". He is limited to using a specific number of powers at a time... Perhaps this is what Peter has?
I personally believe that it is more of proximity driven copy cat power. I hope it shuts of the other persons power as it will give Peter a chance against Silas..
AnyaP_simmer
Nov 2 2006, 06:33 PM
QUOTE (jettasian @ Nov 2 2006, 03:15 PM)

So why is Peter picked as "the one" to save the cheerleader? I know he's the only one who didn't freeze and got FutureHiro's message. But I don't think that's the reason.
So there must be something about Peter that he's destined to be the one. Is it because of his power? But if he can't retain the power, then what's the point?
I think it's because Peter was the only other person (besides Hiro) that was accually happy to have powers and wanted to do something with them at the time. It seems to me that Hiro went to Peter because he was the only person who would believe him, or do anything to help.
kirinsong
Nov 3 2006, 01:26 AM
QUOTE (AnyaP_simmer @ Nov 2 2006, 09:33 PM)

I think it's because Peter was the only other person (besides Hiro) that was accually happy to have powers and wanted to do something with them at the time. It seems to me that Hiro went to Peter because he was the only person who would believe him, or do anything to help.
Or it could be as simple as the fact that Peter is the only one able to "synch" with Hiro's powers. Think about it... Hiro has so far displayed that he freezes everyone but himself when he freezes time, yet Peter adapts to powers that are in his proximity. That means, when Peter is in Hiro's proximity, he can move outside of time just like Hiro.
Also, I think there is definitely some trace of residual powers, as Peter was seen drawing a stick figure of himself hovering off the edge of the roof while in the hospital, but after paying a visit to Isaac.
Tomcat
Nov 3 2006, 03:08 AM
QUOTE (tracepac @ Nov 2 2006, 07:39 PM)

How about Mimic? Can Peter use any one else's powers? Like the Marvel character? Mimic can then continue to use those powers that he has "learned". He is limited to using a specific number of powers at a time... Perhaps this is what Peter has?
I personally believe that it is more of proximity driven copy cat power. I hope it shuts of the other persons power as it will give Peter a chance against Silas..
I'm with you on the proximity thing, though there could be some risidual here and there. After all, he did draw himself flying in the hospital, well away from Isaac at the time. It's also possible that he retained what he saw while he was with Isaac and just finally drew it while in the hospital.
Thus far though, I don't see anything to suggest he can mimic anyone elses power. He's had such a hard time flying with Nathan isn't around.
Tom
SillyMamma
Nov 3 2006, 05:31 AM
Don't forget that Isaac was probably at the same hospital, having been taken there for the overdose right before Peter decided to inaugerate the Flying Petrelli Brothers club.
Tomcat
Nov 3 2006, 07:46 AM
True. I didn't think about that, though it's still unclear how close they were to one another at the time.
Tom
AbyssalDeath
Nov 3 2006, 09:56 AM
I think Peter is more important to the group because he can use everyones power. Not so much because it would make him more powerful but because it allows him to better understand what everyone else is going through. Think about it. No one else, but Peter will be able to truly understand what Matt is going through or the heavy responsibility that is involved with Hiro's power.
Tomcat
Nov 3 2006, 11:30 AM
Temporarily possessing a power isn't the same thing as understanding the responsibilities involved. While I think he's meant for something special, I don't think it's because his power gives him some kind of insight. Instead, I think it's because he's charismatic, intelligent, compassionate, and probably a natural leader...something he may not have realized before.
Tom
dannelle12
Nov 3 2006, 11:32 AM
I belive if everyone came together, Peter could use all of the powers combined to defeat what ever it is that they have to defeat. And that's why he is the "ONE".
SweetLaura
Nov 3 2006, 02:53 PM
I think he's the leader because he can absorb the Heroes' powers.. I imagine a scene where they're all in a big battle and the other heroes are standing behind him and he gives the last big surge of whatever to defeat their enemy. Most super hero shows have a way where they all join together and that way is through Peter. Plus he has the caring and compassion that is needed in a good leader, and he truly want to do good. In Tim Kring's interview on NBC.com before it was truly revealed that Peter can mimic powers Tim Kring gave the hint that his profession of a hospice nurse is a hint. Meaning hes empathetic- empathetic=feeling other people's emotions (being able to use other's powers)
jettasian
Nov 3 2006, 05:34 PM
QUOTE (AnyaP_simmer @ Nov 2 2006, 09:33 PM)

I think it's because Peter was the only other person (besides Hiro) that was accually happy to have powers and wanted to do something with them at the time. It seems to me that Hiro went to Peter because he was the only person who would believe him, or do anything to help.
Not to be disagreed with you. But why didn't Hiro go save the cheerleader himself? Since he can turn back time...isn't that simply to just go back and save Claire before she got killed?
MoonDaughter
Nov 3 2006, 06:33 PM
QUOTE (jettasian @ Nov 3 2006, 08:34 PM)

Not to be disagreed with you. But why didn't Hiro go save the cheerleader himself? Since he can turn back time...isn't that simply to just go back and save Claire before she got killed?
I do't think Hiro can necessarily interfere too much with anything. I mean, he even said it in episode 5, "I'm risking a rift just by being here!" If he were to get anymore involved, like saving Claire directly as you suggested, then he probably
would cause a rift. Just giving Peter a clue seems to have avoiding that problem.
pixiehawk
Nov 3 2006, 06:41 PM
QUOTE (johncarllos @ Nov 1 2006, 06:47 PM)

*coughcough*
I've stated this before.
There ARE side effect to the other people when Peter steals powers. When Nathan caught Peter, Nate said he flew right before he caught him, and Nathan dropped him rght after they hit, he was weakened.
Another instance, on the roof where Pete floats, when he walks off the edge, his brother pulls out a hanky and covers his mouth, as in pain or sickness maybe.
AND when he is painting the picture, as soon as he starts, Issac starts coughing like a madman, and didn't before Peter went white eyes.
Peter sucks life to use their powers, and weakens them at the same time.
This is still in the theory stage, but as far as I can recall is accurate.
I don't think so, for a couple of reasons
1) Hiro didn't cough on the train. True he'd going all stoic warrior, but still
2) Peter's been tapping his brothers powers for months-his dreams about flying-and Nathan hasn't been sick. Although he knew about the flying before his brother did so I think he can sense powers, & if he learns to use that it'll give him a version of a spider sense.
kirinsong
Nov 3 2006, 07:54 PM
QUOTE (MoonDaughter @ Nov 3 2006, 09:33 PM)

I do't think Hiro can necessarily interfere too much with anything. I mean, he even said it in episode 5, "I'm risking a rift just by being here!" If he were to get anymore involved, like saving Claire directly as you suggested, then he probably would cause a rift. Just giving Peter a clue seems to have avoiding that problem.
Yup, you beat me to the punch. Although Hiro probably can interfere directly with events, it's probably a good idea that he doesn't. I know one of the upcoming episodes deals with this in some way, and it's completely possible that future!Hiro has already learned that lesson, which is why he decides to prod Peter instead.
AnyaP_simmer
Nov 6 2006, 12:15 PM
^^Poor Peter. He's the subject of another character's prodding.
Yeah, Hiro seems to know what not to do with his power. I agree, he probably cound't really come back from the future to change the past and get away with it consequence free.
johncarllos
Nov 6 2006, 12:51 PM
QUOTE (dannelle12 @ Nov 3 2006, 02:32 PM)

I belive if everyone came together, Peter could use all of the powers combined to defeat what ever it is that they have to defeat. And that's why he is the "ONE".
He's like the Captain Planet of the group, insteas of earth, wind, water, fire, heart, CAPATIN PLANET
It's time, healing, flight, foresight, brains, PETER PETRELLI!
^in order, Hiro, Clair, Nate, Issac, Micah (guessing).
I say that because the others don't truely seem to be Heroes as much in the traditional sense, more like villains.
I didn't say Matt because he hasn't interacted yet, and we know the rest are all connected.
That was lame.
Go! Go! Hiro!
Nov 6 2006, 12:58 PM
QUOTE (Tomcat @ Nov 3 2006, 06:08 AM)

Thus far though, I don't see anything to suggest he can mimic anyone elses power. He's had such a hard time flying with Nathan isn't around.
Didn't you see episode 5 toward the end and at the begining of episode 6? He finished drawing Isaac's picture and his eyes turned white like Isaac's do when he's painting. Tho I'm still very VERY unclear as to how the whole power borrowing thing works, he definitely used an altered form of Issac's in those episodes.
wicked16
Nov 6 2006, 07:36 PM
not onley can peter mimic a power but also he seems to be able to use them in ways that others cant...like Isaces power for exsample he seems to beable to uses it without needing any narcotics... i think peter will be a great asset to the group cause whean they start fighting bad guys peter can probobly use the bad guys powers agenst them
Go! Go! Hiro!
Nov 6 2006, 07:59 PM
QUOTE (wicked16 @ Nov 6 2006, 10:36 PM)

not onley can peter mimic a power but also he seems to be able to use them in ways that others cant...like Isaces power for exsample he seems to beable to uses it without needing any narcotics... i think peter will be a great asset to the group cause whean they start fighting bad guys peter can probobly use the bad guys powers agenst them
True but at the same time we STILL don't know how it works. Maybe when he borrows powers he keeps them or maybe he just borrows them for a shot while. In any case i hope he doesn't keep them then he would be unstoppable which would be pretty boring. At the same time if the HEROES are fighting a villian at the same time and he has borrowed their powers, there would be no need for the other heroes. So I can't wait to see how the show pulls this one off.
AnyaP_simmer
Nov 6 2006, 08:21 PM
It seems like when he borrows the other Heroes' powers, they feel physical effects. Isaac started coughing when Peter was painting, and Nathan was coughing too when Peter was flying. And that explains why Nathan couldn't hold Peter when they were both flying... He got weaker when Peter borrowed his power.
Subject change here; I loved Peter's lie at the brunch in tonight's episode! Peter is really being more sure of himself lately. He wouldn't have done that even a few episodes ago. He's got some awesome lying skills going for him!
yelluwskys
Nov 6 2006, 09:12 PM
Based on their interview, it seems like the creator has spent a lot of time trying to figure out how to create such complicated character. Milo said that they only figured out several months after the pilot's shot.
I think the creator's being VERY CAREFUL about Peter's power. It gotta make sense. Maybe that's why we still don't know exactly how Peter's power will do/work. It is taking a very slow pace to reveal about Peter's abilities.
Tomcat
Nov 7 2006, 03:51 AM
QUOTE (Go! Go! Hiro! @ Nov 6 2006, 03:58 PM)

Didn't you see episode 5 toward the end and at the begining of episode 6? He finished drawing Isaac's picture and his eyes turned white like Isaac's do when he's painting. Tho I'm still very VERY unclear as to how the whole power borrowing thing works, he definitely used an altered form of Issac's in those episodes.
I honestly don't remember what I was trying to say there. I do believe he mimics powers, but only in proximity. I didn't phrase that sentence you quoted correctly for some bizarre reason. I honestly hate it when I blow it like that ;)
Peter is now, officially, my favorite character on the show. The way he covered for Nathan was a brotherly thing, and Nathan definately felt like crap about it, but then he didn't give Nathan a pass on the whole thing...he's not the push over he used to be!
Tom
skazaremi
Nov 7 2006, 06:14 AM
Why does Peter still think he can fly by himself? lol, he really wants to fly doesn't he? I bet he would trade abilities with his brother in a heartbeat.
Tomcat
Nov 7 2006, 06:26 AM
I'm not sure if he thought he could still fly on his own, or was just trying to push his brother's buttons.
Tom
AbyssalDeath
Nov 7 2006, 11:19 AM
Well at that moment Peter could fly because Nathan was there.
HERΟ
Nov 7 2006, 11:28 AM
Just reposting stuff from the character archives which will eventually get deleted:
QUOTE (HERΟ @ Oct 23 2006, 11:50 PM)

QUOTE (Pearl Penalosa @ Oct 7 2006, 11:58 PM)

Hee. Well, I'm guessing that we were both wrong, because, while Peter can somehow fly, he is also able to draw awesome stick figures that kinda predict the future!
So do you think he has a slight "base" power of precognition with his dreams? Or did he get that ability from Simone's dad, indicating daddy Deveaux has powers and is indeed Patient Zero?!?

AnyaP_simmer
Nov 7 2006, 05:57 PM
^Yeah, I really wonder how he's getting all the precognative dreams. Is that his power, or is it from soneome else? I think he has a psychic mouse living underneath his bed or something.
SillyMamma
Nov 7 2006, 07:37 PM
I don't think the dreams are precog. I think they're empathic. With Nathan at his accident. With Charles at his death.
Insomniac
Nov 7 2006, 07:41 PM
I just think Peter's a cool character. It's cool how they did the twist. First you think he can fly, then you're like, so what the freak are his powers, then it becomes a foggy clearness. That, my friends, is exactly what makes a cool character.
spyda
Nov 7 2006, 09:30 PM
QUOTE (Tomcat @ Nov 7 2006, 06:26 AM)

I'm not sure if he thought he could still fly on his own, or was just trying to push his brother's buttons.
Tom
Nate doesnt know Pete mimics powers, all Nate knows is that he saw pete fly. so he assumes that they are both the fllying petrellis
Just_Ice
Nov 7 2006, 10:06 PM
QUOTE (SillyMamma @ Nov 8 2006, 02:37 PM)

I don't think the dreams are precog. I think they're empathic. With Nathan at his accident. With Charles at his death.
Good point, there.
Makes me wonder how much of his powers are based on empathy.
Could be his ability to mimic the powers of those around him is just an extension of the same power that lets him dream. Both based on the Empathy he feels for the people around him.
Good ability for a nurse to have developed.
Gutta
Nov 8 2006, 01:00 AM
Figured I'd post this here since it is linked to Peter also. BTW, I definitely agree with the empathetic notion. His powers stem from empathy and thus his borrowing is a side effect of feeling what other people do. This comes from my Uluru post.
I think people have been watching too much X-Men and such. I am 99% sure Uluru is just a representation of Sylar. He represents the powerful, invincible being that our heroes must destroy. Sticking with that then, let's examine the comic. "You dare to defy me? I am the invincible Uluru!" This does not have to be taken verbatim but can represent the thoughts and attitude Sylar would have after devouring powers. I can see Sylar, being Patient Zero, the first of them all, thinking this way. Then we have our hero saying "No one believed me - now I'm humanity's last hope". I'm leaning towards this being Peter. Again, forget the representation of the character in the stamp, think about the circumstances. It almost gave me the feel of the little guy in the stamp as being Clark Kent. So it looks like our main hero, although it seems he is against impossible odds, has to conquer the being that threatens to destroy the world. Again, this is not a monster and superhero kind of show so an actual manisfestation of Uluru would be contradictory, not to mention expensive to produce.
As far as Uluru to Sylar references - let's see if people agree with me here. For one, on the map on the heroes homepage after you click on Mohinder, you get a reference to Medusa, the monster that turns people into stone. Well it appears Sylar freezes people, quite similar. Next it appears that he has telekenisis or something to that effect. The monster Uluru according to mythology (or at least what I think the posters are saying) has control of magnetism ala magneto - this seems mighty close to each other also. Finally, consider that he consumes powers and that he cannot control his hunger - this would seemingly create a "monster" that would threaten all of humanity if not checked. As far as Peter confronting him, he is the logical choice. Also, didnt a few people post something about the dream state and Uluru? Peter's ability is that of an empath, this comes from Tim Kring himself. The stamp might even be a representation of a dream that Peter has, especially since he seems to communicate real events in his dreams, about his confrontation with Sylar. Again, Peter is the main character here and thus it would seem fitting that the major struggle is Peter vs Sylar - ALONE. If Sylar has all these powers, then Peter could counter him if in his presence, he wouldn't even need other heroes. Not sure how Claire fits in to this but I think my theories hold a lot of weight. I think that Micah will make the connection between Sylar and Uluru but he himself is definitely a good guy - with only one power - sorry guys its technopathology; the ability to manipulate machinery and such. Jessica - Nikki's alter ego, is only superstrong and is represented as a monster in that comic book. I think the other heroes are just helper pieces along the way and their conflicts intersect each other but don't result in your typical X-Men the Last Stand type of battle. Characters will die along the way. Any guesses? I'm almost 100% certain that Nathan and or Peter will die. Doesn't that seem obvious? But I digress. Feel free to question or support my Uluru theory.
peabodyseven
Nov 8 2006, 11:37 AM
Wow, Gutta. I'm impressed. Your theory warrants a lot of merit. Did you get ANY sleep last night? This is by far one of the most thought out posts I've seen in here--maybe the longest "non-quoted" post anyway. Since you seem to have it all together, if I may ask, have you figured out WHY Future Hiro told Peter to "be the man we need." ? Was it to get Peter to follow his instructions? Or did Future Peter lose his drive to be a hero and turned his back on everyone until it was too late? Any thoughts?
Gutta
Nov 8 2006, 11:45 AM
QUOTE (peabodyseven @ Nov 8 2006, 02:37 PM)

Wow, Gutta. I'm impressed. Your theory warrants a lot of merit. Did you get ANY sleep last night? This is by far one of the most thought out posts I've seen in here--maybe the longest "non-quoted" post anyway. Since you seem to have it all together, if I may ask, have you figured out WHY Future Hiro told Peter to "be the man we need." ? Was it to get Peter to follow his instructions? Or did Future Peter lose his drive to be a hero and turned his back on everyone until it was too late? Any thoughts?
No...I didn't get much sleep last night. But to answer your question, this points back to my belief as Peter being the central hero. Peter is the one that feels he is destined for greatness. He needs the push to persevere despite the skeptics (Nathan & Mohinder). If Peter does indeed embrace his destiny, then he can conquer Uluru. I don't think future Peter lost his drive. It's just that in that alternate future, Hiro and Peter don't save the cheerleader and Uluru/Sylar is unstoppable.
Catalyst
Nov 8 2006, 05:30 PM
QUOTE (jettasian @ Nov 2 2006, 05:15 PM)

So why is Peter picked as "the one" to save the cheerleader? I know he's the only one who didn't freeze and got FutureHiro's message. But I don't think that's the reason.
So there must be something about Peter that he's destined to be the one. Is it because of his power? But if he can't retain the power, then what's the point?
People have mentioned that he can be the most powerful when in a group and I think that is part of it, but think about what would happen if Peter got near to Sylar. Yep, Sylar would have to deal with someone who not only had the powers and support of a supergroup, plus Sylar would countered by Peter using Sylar's powers if the gifted youngster can adapt quickly enough.
EDIT
damn you Gutta for writing out your post before me.
1. atleast you agree with me that peter will counter sylar.
2. i think that it's all very dickenson with all these random characters and i believe each will be important to the struggle.
3. sorry i don't think peter will be dying this season =P
jettasian
Nov 8 2006, 05:44 PM
Peter can NOT die! Unless we will see a Phoneix return. If Peter dies, what's going to happen to this show? Those other Heroes...though they have powers...they can't counter the villians. As Nathan said, he can only fly, there's nothing else he can do.
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