CraigB
Nov 1 2006, 04:06 PM
Talk about Hiro's pal Ando here!
chevyjock
Nov 1 2006, 04:57 PM
And also a jealous, if not greedy, man who loves the green.
Agent42
Nov 1 2006, 10:34 PM
Yay! An everyman, like us, who's just along for the ride. He's important to Hiro because Hiro needs a guide that can translate for him while he's in America (as well as drive, ha).
And there's a little bit of Ando in all of us, hey who wouldn't use their ability for a little (just
a little) monetary gain?
Stufsocker
Nov 2 2006, 11:16 AM
Isn't it Ando Masahashi, not Musashi?
I like Ando. He's a good complement to Hiro b/c, despite his love for the green, he's still an adult. Hiro, for however much I love the character, is still young and somewhat oblivious to the world around him. When you stop and think about it, Ando is going along with Hiro just because Hiro said it's meant to be. He drops everything and gets on the plane to fly across the world on Hiro's word. Later, he actually saves Hiro's life by dragging him into the bathroom and not letting him out. He's a good guy. I hope nothing terrible happens to him along the way, though I'm sure that terrible thing becomes part of Hiro's heroic journey and education.
DarkHeroJ
Nov 2 2006, 05:49 PM
QUOTE
I hope nothing terrible happens to him along the way, though I'm sure that terrible thing becomes part of Hiro's heroic journey and education.
me neithr i hope nothing happens to him but unfortunately i have a terrible feeling that something will happen to him that will help Hiro become, well, future Hiro. I thinking he might die (i hope he doesnt though. That will be real sad. cant imagine how Hiro will feel if that happens)
kitty
Nov 3 2006, 02:22 PM
QUOTE (Angel_of_the_Desert-AFI @ Nov 3 2006, 10:16 PM)

Click to view attachmentDid you know that if you write Ando's name in Japanese kanji the "An-" part can have the kanji meaning "darkness"? His name, to me, sounds similar to the Japanese word "anbu" wich means "dark side".
I know what you're getting at, but I don't think Ando would go to the dark side because, well, he really wouldn't be powerful enough.
Angel_of_the_Desert-AFI
Nov 3 2006, 02:27 PM
QUOTE (kitty @ Nov 3 2006, 02:22 PM)

I know what you're getting at, but I don't think Ando would go to the dark side because, well, he really wouldn't be powerful enough.
You've got a point, but I wasn't saying that Ando-kun would. I just said something kinda lame about his name that's all...
Angel_of_the_Desert-AFI
Nov 3 2006, 02:16 PM
Click to view attachmentDid you know that if you write Ando's name in Japanese kanji the "An-" part can have the kanji meaning "darkness"? His name, to me, sounds similar to the Japanese word "anbu" wich means "dark side".
rubio64
Nov 4 2006, 10:10 AM
i agree that something might happen to ando that will make hiro become the superhero he wants to be. like peter parker, his uncle's death is what helped him become spiderman. just a thought though, i really like ando and i would love for him to become hiro's sidekick.
Lady Heather
Nov 5 2006, 02:58 AM
There is so much talk about the enemies and the dark side. Well, there has to be some great sidekicks/goodsides too.
Ando is one of those. So is Zach. I would be very disappointed if either of those turned out to be evil/or sold out.
Nocterayne
Nov 5 2006, 03:45 AM
Sadly, I too think Ando's death will help Hiro become Future Hiro. Though I do want him to live.
atomic50
Nov 6 2006, 03:10 PM
QUOTE (Nocterayne @ Nov 5 2006, 03:45 AM)

Sadly, I too think Ando's death will help Hiro become Future Hiro. Though I do want him to live.
I reluctantly agree too.
I would add that I think, due to Hiro's influence, Ando will end up sacrificing himself heroically.
doomguarder
Nov 8 2006, 07:41 AM
I hate it as well, but Ando has a serious "red shirt" aura about him. Norms must be very careful when playing with supers.
Angel_of_the_Desert-AFI
Nov 8 2006, 02:09 PM
Click to view attachmentQUOTE (Nocterayne @ Nov 5 2006, 03:45 AM)

Sadly, I too think Ando's death will help Hiro become Future Hiro. Though I do want him to live.
Hunh?! Ando's going to die?! That bites...! He's one of my favorite charaters...even if at times he does seems to be after the more personal gain of having a friend who has superpowers.
hiros#1fan
Nov 13 2006, 02:22 PM
QUOTE (atomic50 @ Nov 6 2006, 03:10 PM)

I reluctantly agree too.
I would add that I think, due to Hiro's influence, Ando will end up sacrificing himself heroically.
what if ando does become evil and hiro is the one that has to take him out. that would be something to think about..
Bat Girl
Nov 16 2006, 12:39 AM
I think Ando sincerely cares for Hiro. He showed it in the last episode when he didn't want Hiro to use his powers for fear of Hiro dying. Ando gets distracted by money but when it comes to things like death, he's pretty realistic. I sometimes get the feeling that he's like a brother to Hiro and goes along with him to protect him. Although Hiro and Ando sometimes disagree, they seem like true friends.
Here's my speculation (Warning: It's not very happy):
Unfortunately, I've had a fear that as soon as Hiro learns English, Ando will die. I think Ando dying while Hiro is trying to save Charlie would be a harsh lesson in the risks of time travel too. I don't want to see that happen. I hope it's more something like Ando getting very hurt that's in some way related to Hiro's time jumping. That way at least Ando can recover and Hiro gets a lesson too.
Angel_of_the_Desert-AFI
Nov 16 2006, 12:22 PM
Click to view attachmentQUOTE (Bat Girl @ Nov 16 2006, 12:39 AM)

I think Ando sincerely cares for Hiro. He showed it in the last episode when he didn't want Hiro to use his powers for fear of Hiro dying. Ando gets distracted by money but when it comes to things like death, he's pretty realistic. I sometimes get the feeling that he's like a brother to Hiro and goes along with him to protect him. Although Hiro and Ando sometimes disagree, they seem like true friends.
Here's my speculation (Warning: It's not very happy):
Unfortunately, I've had a fear that as soon as Hiro learns English, Ando will die. I think Ando dying while Hiro is trying to save Charlie would be a harsh lesson in the risks of time travel too. I don't want to see that happen. I hope it's more something like Ando getting very hurt that's in some way related to Hiro's time jumping. That way at least Ando can recover and Hiro gets a lesson too.
Oh..Gee. That's is harsh.
sucky_moto
Nov 19 2006, 09:42 PM
this character makes the show look good. hopefully he stays in the show for the rest of the season.
polyglotton
Nov 19 2006, 11:00 PM
he looked so sad when hiro didn't come back. I really feel bad for ando now and I agree, I really like his character as Hiro's sidekick and I hope he sticks around.
MiyaRG
Nov 20 2006, 07:43 PM
ando has the power of looking super confused..he has the whole "wtf?" face going for him.
MrHeavySilence
Nov 22 2006, 12:42 AM
Ando will be the one to kill Sylar, don't you worry.
indie
Nov 22 2006, 01:01 AM
I both agree and disagree. The producers obviously have to show that with their large cast, there will be eventual deaths. That is inevitable. They have to show that some people are expendable, and Ando has a lot of potential for that. I like him as an actor A LOT. I think he really adds to the show, and I honestly don't believe this is his fate, not yet.
Also note that the creators said that Hiro's future self is from a LONG ways away, a figurative "20 seasons" away. Yes, figurative, which means, not literally.
In that sense, Hiro may come back and not know much more english.
Either way, I personally believe there is some special power lurking around the corner for Ando, and that he'll discover it at quite a convenient time. This is a show that emphasizes the next step in human evolution, and it is apparent that this step happens at different times for everyone. Maybe Ando will have his time someday?
hempingway
Nov 22 2006, 01:03 AM
Ando's kind of a wuss. He & Peter both realize that most of the time, they aren't special. Peter goes to save Claire anyway, while Ando stays behind...
I'm sure that the writers made him stay back because someone had to wait for Hiro, but it made him look bad...
InfiniteRain
Nov 28 2006, 04:01 PM
Poor Ando.. how long has he been sitting in that diner unable to do anything? Awww... I was so happy for him when Hiro walked back in
Jing-Jack
Nov 28 2006, 04:18 PM
yea but now that Hiro speaks english so well, hes gonna become pretty useless soon, and then become depressed and even jealous..
maybe he'll go bad after all
falcotron
Dec 2 2006, 04:10 PM
QUOTE (Jing-Jack @ Nov 28 2006, 04:18 PM)

yea but now that Hiro speaks english so well, hes gonna become pretty useless soon, and then become depressed and even jealous..
maybe he'll go bad after all
I don't see him going bad. What exactly could he do? Wait, I've got it!
Peter (muffled, coming out of Ando's cell): Tell Hiro to follow me and stay close!
Hiro: <What did he say?>
Ando: <Go around back and wait five minutes, then come in after me.>
Hiro: <Really? It sounded like something about following?>
Ando: <English is a complicated language. Look, there's no time, we have to get to the back door!>
Hiro: <OK! Let's do it!>
[60 seconds later]
Peter (in the distance): Aaaaargh, he got me! Hiro, where are you? Now I'm dead and the world is doomed!
Ando (to himself): <Ha ha ha, now I can collect the $1 million of Linderman's money and the backdoor password to Niki's webcam archives from Ms. Sakamoto. And Sylar will let me share Mr. Muggles' brain and get half of his powers. Excellent!>
Hiro: <What was Peter yelling?>
Ando: <He said, "Ignore my fake scream of pain. I have everything under control. Keep waiting.">
Hiro: <OK!>
falcotron
Dec 2 2006, 04:28 PM
QUOTE (rubio64 @ Nov 4 2006, 10:10 AM)

i agree that something might happen to ando that will make hiro become the superhero he wants to be. like peter parker, his uncle's death is what helped him become spiderman. just a thought though, i really like ando and i would love for him to become hiro's sidekick.
I suspected the same thing, and I was similarly hoping they wouldn't have to kill him. And now I don't think they have to.
I'm really impressed by the Charlie arc. She's at the same time the standard Star Trek "Here's a new important character (in red, no less) out of nowhere--whoops, now she's dead" and the Edith that our Hiro falls in love with--after having traveled into the past--and tragically fails to save.
If the Haitian doesn't Spock away Hiro's painful memories so he can go back to having meaningless casual sex with green-skinned girls, I can't see how he could fail to be matured by this experience. So Ando's probably safe.
Of course this isn't Star Trek (if it was, Charlie "could make you all go away, any time I want..."). It's a comic book/soap opera, so Charlie may come back from the dead after Hiro absorbs his life lesson. But, as great of a character as she was, I hope they don't do that.
miniman143
Dec 10 2006, 10:29 PM
Musashi was the greatest swordsman from Japan i think he will help get Hiros sword.
Also i think they call him dark as foil to hiro who is pure light Ando is the realism
Umbrax
Dec 12 2006, 01:27 PM
Ando is pretty cool I hope he stays on the show for a long time, even if he doesn't have powers. It is his destiny to be part of this just like the others are.
bigblueman84
Dec 15 2006, 10:18 AM
Ando will probably end up being on the show for a while. He's the true comic relief of the series. Hiro is the goofy one, yes, but Ando's deadpan, smack-in-the-face realism is too important to the storyline. I would certianly like to see him in one of Isaac's paintings though. It would go a long way in deciphering whether there is some honest-to-good link between heroes. I'm more interested to see if he can paint anything other than other heroes.
That said, if Ando does die, I think it will be for something totally independent of Hiro. Hiro has his own storyline and his own stuff to deal with. I liked the part when the two parted ways in Vegas. Who knows. Maybe Jessica kills him and Niki, seeing poor innocent Ando ripped to pieces, finally finds the strength to ditch the pixie.
Enohp
Dec 15 2006, 12:00 PM
QUOTE (falcotron @ Dec 2 2006, 07:10 PM)

I don't see him going bad. What exactly could he do? Wait, I've got it!
Peter (muffled, coming out of Ando's cell): Tell Hiro to follow me and stay close!
Hiro: <What did he say?>
Ando: <Go around back and wait five minutes, then come in after me.>
Hiro: <Really? It sounded like something about following?>
Ando: <English is a complicated language. Look, there's no time, we have to get to the back door!>
Hiro: <OK! Let's do it!>
[60 seconds later]
Peter (in the distance): Aaaaargh, he got me! Hiro, where are you? Now I'm dead and the world is doomed!
Ando (to himself): <Ha ha ha, now I can collect the $1 million of Linderman's money and the backdoor password to Niki's webcam archives from Ms. Sakamoto. And Sylar will let me share Mr. Muggles' brain and get half of his powers. Excellent!>
Hiro: <What was Peter yelling?>
Ando: <He said, "Ignore my fake scream of pain. I have everything under control. Keep waiting.">
Hiro: <OK!>
lmao
No_I'm_Peter
Dec 15 2006, 02:02 PM
Could Ando have a real power, that works with Hiro's. Their connection is obvious so maybe he's like an anchor for Hiro, so Hiro can always return to the proper time. Or maybe (laughing manically) Ando is Uluru.
kitty
Dec 15 2006, 02:19 PM
I hate Ando. He's such a ball and chain to Hiro. Hiro would be able to do so much more with out his wussy and whiny friend who doesn't agree with anything Hiro wants to do.
They shouldn't have killed Eden, they should've killed Ando!
cr@sh
Dec 15 2006, 06:37 PM
Yeah, he is kind of a waste of space but he is there to add the comiedic feel to it.
Ando: "Who's that calling?"
Hiro: "Destiny"
Ando: "I wish Destiny would lose our number."
lord peril
Dec 15 2006, 08:41 PM
Ando is a very good friend to Hiro. Not many people would have waited like he did. It says something about a persons character to be loyal and patient.
It may also reflect on his culture. ConUS Americans are in general careless and void when true friendship is in question.
englewood
Dec 29 2006, 04:58 PM
QUOTE ME
ANDO WILL SAVE THE DAY
No_I'm_Peter
Dec 29 2006, 05:02 PM
QUOTE (englewood @ Dec 29 2006, 06:58 PM)

QUOTE ME
ANDO WILL SAVE THE DAY
ANDO WILL SAVE THE DAY
You have been quoted.
darkbladeurath
Jan 2 2007, 10:14 AM
QUOTE (bigblueman84 @ Dec 15 2006, 01:18 PM)

Ando will probably end up being on the show for a while. He's the true comic relief of the series. Hiro is the goofy one, yes, but Ando's deadpan, smack-in-the-face realism is too important to the storyline. I would certianly like to see him in one of Isaac's paintings though. It would go a long way in deciphering whether there is some honest-to-good link between heroes. I'm more interested to see if he can paint anything other than other heroes.
isaac did paint a pic with ando. the one where he and hiro are standing under the homecoming banner. and isaac can paint other things besides heroes. what about the suicide bombing on the bus. but that could be related to an undiscovered hero. maybe even hanna.
Auburn Red
Jan 4 2007, 09:14 AM
I think Ando is one of my favorite characters because he is so loyal to Hiro. I mean, how many people would wait in a diner all day for their friend like he did? Most people would probably say something like "I'll give him 15 minutes then I am out of here. Let him go on that d@#n fool crusade on his own!" (especially since Ando didn't believe him at first). Or for that matter why abandon his whole life in Japan and go with him at all.
It kind of makes you wonder why he never thought about going back to Japan or why he went with him at all. I mean yes I know Hiro needed him because he could speak better English but why did ANDO agree to go? There are the personal pleasures the gambling and meeting Nikki (both great scenes especially the one between him and Nikki) but once they were done why stay? Could it be he doesn't have anything to go back for like he doesn't have a family or anything, or anyone who would miss him besides Hiro. Or could it be as much as Hiro needs Ando, (to paraphrase Lilo and Stitch) Ando needs Hiro more than Hiro needs him. (I'm not saying it's a love thing, though one could interpret it as such, but there is that one friend that really stays with you and I think Hiro fills that with Ando like Sherlock Holmes and John Watson.) Anyway it's a friendship I love analyzing!
Unfortunately, I can see Ando dying as well because I believe it is his death that propels Hiro to become Future Hiro. I don't think it's Charlie's because it probably would have been awhile. I don't want to see it happen, but I can see Ando dying to help Hiro and since Hiro knows going back in time won't save him, he can't. (because it didn't work for Charlie) Maybe even Ando himself will tell him not to worry about him.
englewood
Jan 9 2007, 12:00 PM
"you dont have to have super powers to be a hero" -Hiro
Dr. Chaos
Jan 9 2007, 12:43 PM
Mark my words, Ando won't make it past season four.
It's not that I don't like him but If theres anybody that's due a visit from the Grim Reaper on this series, it's him for a multitude of reasons, some already stated.
As far as some of the other sidekicks go, Zach is surprisingly safe.
chrissstopher
Jan 9 2007, 04:50 PM
QUOTE (Dr. Chaos @ Jan 9 2007, 03:43 PM)

Mark my words, Ando won't make it past season four.
It's not that I don't like him but If theres anybody that's due a visit from the Grim Reaper on this series, it's him for a multitude of reasons, some already stated.
As far as some of the other sidekicks go, Zach is surprisingly safe.
but Zach is already gone and Thomas (the actor who plays Zach) is in a pilot for a diff TV show so... not so safe.
Dr. Chaos
Jan 9 2007, 05:13 PM
QUOTE
but Zach is already gone and Thomas (the actor who plays Zach) is in a pilot for a diff TV show so... not so safe.
Was well aware of all this with my previous post and I still say very much safe.
Taking into account that Zach will still be in a few future episodes, He's more likely to just dissapear from Claire's life than he is to die.
englewood
Jan 9 2007, 06:32 PM
QUOTE (Dr. Chaos @ Jan 9 2007, 03:43 PM)

Mark my words, Ando won't make it past season four.
It's not that I don't like him but If theres anybody that's due a visit from the Grim Reaper on this series, it's him for a multitude of reasons, some already stated.
As far as some of the other sidekicks go, Zach is surprisingly safe.
that isnt much of a stretch, season 4 would be aloooong time from now..
idallia
Jan 10 2007, 08:37 AM
QUOTE (Stufsocker @ Nov 2 2006, 02:16 PM)

Isn't it Ando Masahashi, not Musashi?
Thread title changed.
richual
Jan 10 2007, 12:18 PM
I hope Ando dosen't die "My Friend has Super POWER!" funniest part of the whole season. He is pretty much the only comic relief in the show except for the "Six Months Ago" episode where Sylar looked like a fake Clark Kent lol.
Forshadowing
Jan 10 2007, 06:19 PM
Did anyone else notice that in Peter's vision thing, Ando was the only none Main character in the explosion. He was also the only actor not credited as a star. I Think that means he will be around for many episodes to come.
I also don't see him likely to die, Just becoming less important to Hiro and going back to his day job.
Imagine: "I use to help my friend who could control time and space and help stop a man exploding in New York City, but now I answer phones." (What do Ando and Hiro do?)
CelestialMystic
Jan 11 2007, 02:56 PM
QUOTE (Forshadowing @ Jan 10 2007, 09:19 PM)

Did anyone else notice that in Peter's vision thing, Ando was the only none Main character in the explosion. He was also the only actor not credited as a star. I Think that means he will be around for many episodes to come.
I also don't see him likely to die, Just becoming less important to Hiro and going back to his day job.
Imagine: "I use to help my friend who could control time and space and help stop a man exploding in New York City, but now I answer phones." (What do Ando and Hiro do?)
Actually, Ando was in the dream thing. He was standing behind Hiro, with a similar sad expression on his face.
RedWolf
Jan 16 2007, 12:27 AM
The Hiro and Ando dynamic is a reflection of Japanese comedy.
You have the Boke, the fool which is Hiro and you have the Tsukkomi, the straight man, Ando.
A straight man comedy.
Also I see a Sherlock Holmes-Dr. Watson dynamic also.
Arthur Conan Doyle depicted Holmes as rather eccentric.
Despite the queerness of Holmes, Watson is a good friend that would go with him in any adventure.
englewood
Jan 16 2007, 10:54 AM
yea, Hiro and Ando are perfect together!
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