Meathead
Nov 13 2006, 10:30 AM
Didn't they also get 15 episodes this first season? So it's almost like a countdown to the finale? Or are we going the full 22? Also, it could reference the number of heroes that will be facing down the villain...
Balian
Nov 13 2006, 10:41 AM
They ordered the full 22. They have also shown the clock in the high school and Peter looking at it as it strikes a certain time. Only thing is it looks like it is 8:00. Maybe at that point he knows how much time he has left to save Claire or something. I get what you are saying though. Just another theory.
steve2112
Nov 13 2006, 10:50 AM
QUOTE (Balian @ Nov 13 2006, 01:41 PM)

They ordered the full 22. They have also shown the clock in the high school and Peter looking at it as it strikes a certain time. Only thing is it looks like it is 8:00. Maybe at that point he knows how much time he has left to save Claire or something. I get what you are saying though. Just another theory.
I just feel that we're going to see something in the story about how claire is so important, and perhaps something that will put the ball in motion with the nuke in NY.
We'll have to keep the doomsday clock in mind as we watch tonight. I think it'll help us pick out any hidden meanings they might stuff in there.
Well this is supposed to be the episode they save claire isn't it? There was something in the preview where we start to question what side HRG is on.. So I assume this is where he asks Issac for help to save his daughter, and maybe the world too..
steve2112
Nov 13 2006, 10:26 AM
I guess the first thing we can discuss is the meaning of the ep title "Seven Minutes to Midnight".
This seems to be a clear reference to the "doomsday clock" used by the Bulletin of Atomic Scientistss. It was invented during the cold war and is a method of measurement they use to gauge our risk of nuclear war. The closer you get to midnight, the closer we are to nuclear war.
http://www.thebulletin.org/doomsday_clock/history.htmSo what circumstances that lead up to the NY nuke is anybody's guess. I'm think we might learn more on how Claire is so important to stopping this disaster...
steve2112
Nov 13 2006, 10:32 AM
QUOTE (Meathead @ Nov 13 2006, 01:30 PM)

Didn't they also get 15 episodes this first season? So it's almost like a countdown to the finale? Or are we going the full 22? Also, it could reference the number of heroes that will be facing down the villain...

Nice.. Yes the title could have multiple meanings.. The 7 could be significant to something else..
But the title is clearly a tie-in to the doomsday clock.
dv8
Nov 13 2006, 11:11 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if it all has to do with Hiro.
I just think the title is pretty obvious.
steve2112
Nov 13 2006, 11:17 AM
QUOTE (dv8 @ Nov 13 2006, 02:11 PM)

I wouldn't be surprised if it all has to do with Hiro.
I just think the title is pretty obvious.
True.. Doomsday clock, japanese guy named Hiroshima who can control time...
Balian
Nov 13 2006, 11:01 AM
I could be wrong but he will probably save her next week. It sounds like it all goes down during homecoming and that is the name of next weeks episode.
This will probably be the episode were Peter finds out where to go. Could see something happen like at the very end and then...coming next week on heroes.
wishing to be jessica
Nov 13 2006, 12:07 PM
Okay we've as usual got a ton going on so 7 minutes could mean anything.
It could be significate to Niki/jessica or micha and DL.
As always it's Save the Cheerleader Save the World which has been debated as does one mean the other or in order or they are both tasks that are independent of each other.
Keep in mind next week is 6 months back!
Just my two sense HRG is actually a good guy with bad intentions for the rest of our heros.
I love this show. My house stops so I can watch it every Monday. I've even got my office partner hooked so we can talk about it.
starrangel85
Nov 13 2006, 11:39 AM
I just hope we get questions to something! It seemed to me that last's week was pretty slow, so I'm hoping this weeks will be loaded with information!
Tomcat
Nov 13 2006, 11:40 AM
I don't know how "clearly" it is that the title is a reference to the Doomsday clock. While I agree it's likely, I don't think we've got enough information for it to be that "clear".
Tom
Tynesha
Nov 13 2006, 11:49 AM
Boy did I get it wrong. I was think it was called Seven Minutes in Heaven... as in the game... I assumed random characters would go into closets and make out for a whole 7 minutes of the epsode... DARN!
Tomcat
Nov 13 2006, 11:51 AM
QUOTE (Tynesha @ Nov 13 2006, 02:49 PM)

Boy did I get it wrong. I was think it was called Seven Minutes in Heaven... as in the game... I assumed random characters would go into closets and make out for a whole 7 minutes of the epsode... DARN!
Now
that would be an interesting episode

Tom
Balian
Nov 13 2006, 11:54 AM
QUOTE (Tynesha @ Nov 13 2006, 07:49 PM)

Boy did I get it wrong. I was think it was called Seven Minutes in Heaven... as in the game... I assumed random characters would go into closets and make out for a whole 7 minutes of the epsode... DARN!
I think a lot of girls on this board would be upset if it were Peter and Sylar. The epic smooch battle for Claires life.
steve2112
Nov 13 2006, 11:54 AM
QUOTE (Tomcat @ Nov 13 2006, 02:40 PM)

I don't know how "clearly" it is that the title is a reference to the Doomsday clock. While I agree it's likely, I don't think we've got enough information for it to be that "clear".
Tom
I do. We're talking about a show where superheroes are trying to stop a nuclear bomb/blast going off in NYC.
Hell the Bulletin has us at 7 minutes to midnight right now..
We'll just have to watch and see but I'll practice typing "I told you so" in notepad just in case...
nintendo-fanboy
Nov 13 2006, 12:44 PM
I think that the whole episode is gonna be about the heroes gathering together. Peter, Nathan, Claire, Hiro, Matt, DL, and Issac. I dont think that Niki/Jessica can be considered a hero, nor can Micah without much of his ability known. I think it is that, ro something significant in a seven minute time frame for all of the characters.
steve2112
Nov 13 2006, 12:17 PM
QUOTE (wishing to be jessica @ Nov 13 2006, 03:07 PM)

Okay we've as usual got a ton going on so 7 minutes could mean anything.
It could be significate to Niki/jessica or micha and DL.
As always it's Save the Cheerleader Save the World which has been debated as does one mean the other or in order or they are both tasks that are independent of each other.
Keep in mind next week is 6 months back!
Just my two sense HRG is actually a good guy with bad intentions for the rest of our heros.
I love this show. My house stops so I can watch it every Monday. I've even got my office partner hooked so we can talk about it.
I do like the idea that 7 minutes to midnight is the doomsday clock but the 7 minutes has some meaning within the show..
We don't really know about HRG. I don't know how you can be a good guy but have bad intentions.. I do think he really loves his daughter and he'll move heaven and earth to protect her, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's a good guy all around..
Tynesha
Nov 13 2006, 12:37 PM
QUOTE (wishing to be jessica @ Nov 13 2006, 03:07 PM)

Keep in mind next week is...
No spoilers please! I read them, but others dont...
KJuNo
Nov 13 2006, 01:35 PM
I can imagine it's something like to transformer at midnighty, and when last seven minutes before.. some power will be reveled!
It's just a suposicion.. but I realy no have idea.
sadde
Nov 13 2006, 02:09 PM
What if they end it right as seven minutes to homcoming's midnight strikes and it mean something like that. It could be like a two parter episode.
heroesinvegas
Nov 13 2006, 06:44 PM
i think you're right with the doomsday clock reference... we're currently at "7 minutes to midnight" now according to the
Bulletin of Atomic Scientists and that is where we were when the clock debuted at the end of the cold war in '91... heres the link to the article i found after googling "7 minutes to midnight"
http://www.thebulletin.org/doomsday_clock/current_time.htmjust my .02

EDIT: I'm sorry, i wikipedia'd the clock and it debuted in 1947... ooops!
Wikipedia Article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_Clock
T.J
Nov 13 2006, 06:59 PM
I completely agree with the doomsday clock thing. The creepier part is that I just so happened to find the clock earlier today doing something completely unrelated to Heroes.
As for how that relation will come in, and play into the "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World" thing, I'd like to make predictions, but there's too many ways to interpret it.
kilik2573
Nov 13 2006, 07:19 PM
I was wondering if anyone remembers...the part where they show how Chandra died and they zoomed in on the guys watch.. Does that have to do anything with the 7 minutes? I don't recall what time it said on the watch.
Roadkill
Nov 13 2006, 07:25 PM
nice catch on the watches, i missed that
Shar
Nov 13 2006, 07:24 PM
We have a winner! Yes, remember when the waitress was killed and we saw Sylar's hands as he grabbed the coffee cup? The watch face was cracked and the time was 7 mins to midnight. Then in the close up of Mohindar's father's killer we see the same watch with the time, which means that Sylar killed Chandar.
The title was obviously about Sylar, because we saw so much more of him and learned more about him in this episode. Even Claire's father talked to Isaac about him...
The episode was about Sylar.
commongiga
Nov 13 2006, 07:31 PM
I didn't even know the name of the episode when I watched, but when I saw this topic I immediately thought of the shot of Chandra's watch in the flashback with him getting murdered.
It would seem that Sylar is killing everyone at this time...can anybody go back to TiVo'ed episodes or downloaded ones to confirm this?
Also, if this is true, what can we derive from this habit? I think it could have religious implications (think back to the small room with "please forgive me" written all over it).
steve2112
Nov 13 2006, 07:34 PM
QUOTE (Shar @ Nov 13 2006, 10:24 PM)

We have a winner! Yes, remember when the waitress was killed and we saw Sylar's hands as he grabbed the coffee cup? The watch face was cracked and the time was 7 mins to midnight. Then in the close up of Mohindar's father's killer we see the same watch with the time, which means that Sylar killed Chandar.
The title was obviously about Sylar, because we saw so much more of him and learned more about him in this episode. Even Claire's father talked to Isaac about him...
The episode was about Sylar.
Definitely a good catch on the watch but that's not the only thing. I said earlier agreeing with another poster that the 7 minutes part could have a duel meaning.. The doomsday clock reference plus something specific to the show. This is it.
Radioactive guy escaped and is on the loose.. He's mentally unstable and with the wife dead he's got nothing left to live for. He doesn't seem to care if he blows up a city, as long as it means his death.. I think he wants to take a sh*tload of people with him.
Shar
Nov 13 2006, 07:34 PM
QUOTE (commongiga @ Nov 13 2006, 10:31 PM)

I didn't even know the name of the episode when I watched, but when I saw this topic I immediately thought of the shot of Chandra's watch in the flashback with him getting murdered.
It would seem that Sylar is killing everyone at this time...can anybody go back to TiVo'ed episodes or downloaded ones to confirm this?
Also, if this is true, what can we derive from this habit? I think it could have religious implications (think back to the small room with "please forgive me" written all over it).
It wasn't Chandra's watch, it's Sylar's. And the face is broke which means it's stuck on that time. But then that would raise the question of what happened at the time his watch got broken? And it's obviously significant cause Sylar hasn't taken the watch off even though it doesn't work. So something important must have happened to him at that time.
9th_wonder_hero9106
Nov 13 2006, 07:56 PM
if you looked at the watch in the scene where chandra suresh is being killed in the taxi cab by sylar it is seven minutes to midnight. i am guessing this will be important later when hiro or someone goes back and has to save him or sumthin.
Kez
Nov 13 2006, 07:51 PM
QUOTE (Shar @ Nov 13 2006, 09:34 PM)

It wasn't Chandra's watch, it's Sylar's. And the face is broke which means it's stuck on that time. But then that would raise the question of what happened at the time his watch got broken?
I think that when Sylar was killing Chandra he smashed his watch on the side of the car where the seatbelt thingie is. It was very dark outside so it could have been around midnight.
vernies_garden
Nov 13 2006, 08:01 PM
QUOTE (Shar @ Nov 13 2006, 09:34 PM)

It wasn't Chandra's watch, it's Sylar's. And the face is broke which means it's stuck on that time. But then that would raise the question of what happened at the time his watch got broken? And it's obviously significant cause Sylar hasn't taken the watch off even though it doesn't work. So something important must have happened to him at that time.
it got broke as he banged his head into the window
the scene starts out its not cracked but it gets cracked as he bashes his head
Agent42
Nov 13 2006, 08:05 PM
It's undoubtedly the Sylar's watch, and at first I thought it had to do with him smashing it against the window...but it could be that Hiro is able to transport Mohinder back in time to prevent Sylar from killing his father and in so doing smashes the watch.
This would have to be a pretty advanced scenario because Hiro can only transport himself so far. Also, he's not the most accurate when it comes to time/place.
But it would make the most sense for anybody to go back in time and save the professor to finally unlock the mystery.
commongiga
Nov 13 2006, 08:07 PM
QUOTE (9th_wonder_hero9106 @ Nov 13 2006, 10:56 PM)

if you looked at the watch in the scene where chandra suresh is being killed in the taxi cab by sylar it is seven minutes to midnight. i am guessing this will be important later when hiro or someone goes back and has to save him or sumthin.
I think we're really on the right track here and getting more of an insight to the character of Sylar.
Sylarfan
Jun 5 2007, 03:54 PM
QUOTE (commongiga @ Nov 14 2006, 12:07 AM)

I think we're really on the right track here and getting more of an insight to the character of Sylar.
Yes We Are
PanicAttack
Jun 17 2007, 02:36 PM
QUOTE (steve2112 @ Nov 13 2006, 11:32 AM)

Nice.. Yes the title could have multiple meanings.. The 7 could be significant to something else..
But the title is clearly a tie-in to the doomsday clock.
7 is like the mosy magical powerful number or something like that in Harry Potter
dxgarten
Jul 16 2007, 12:09 PM
This is probably one of the few episodes where I don't understand the relevance of its title.
MikeyF
Jan 5 2009, 10:53 AM
Yeah...
Its now common knowledge that this episode was about sylar...
theres lots of other theories as well...
I googled the title...and theres a very good book entitled 7 minutes to midnight...
I always keep my watch on 7 minutes to midnight...i had to take it apart and take out a wheely cog thing
Visitor27
Jan 6 2009, 08:18 AM
The watch was broken at Seven Minutes to Midnight when Chandra died - very important to the episode.
And yes, Seven Minutes to Midnight has a feeling of the moments before - it's all coming to a head - the crunch time is upon us - it's an amazing title.
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