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herosfan
i have been looking around the different topics on this forum, and no one has mentioned the name on the little Indian child's folder. If you look at the name it says "Sanjog, Iyer" (i'm not sure about the spelling of the name, but i know the first initial along with the last name was pronounced SYLAR) could this be who sylar really is?
herosfan
correction: the name was SANJOG, IYER
Keshire
QUOTE (cryptaknight @ Nov 14 2006, 12:46 AM) *
Paul Sylar, but that may have been pure speculation.


Paul Sylar is located on the Hero map of NBC.com
jelly
edit your first topic
Kez
QUOTE (herosfan @ Nov 14 2006, 12:44 AM) *
i have been looking around the different topics on this forum, and no one has mentioned the name on the little Indian child's folder. If you look at the name it says "Shandi, Iylar" (i'm not sure about the spelling of the name, but i know the first initial along with the last name was pronounced SYLAR) could this be who sylar really is?


The name on the file was exactly:

SANJOG, Iyer

Mohinder's sister's name was Shanti, who died at the age of 5 according to the mother, so this isn't her either.

But, Mohinder's father had the key to the desk with him in New York, which means he locked that file away before he ever met Sylar, who is 40 something, while the kid is 12 or so, so it can't be the same person. Sylar was born in Denver, not India, according to the NBC gallery of pictures.
cryptaknight
Shandi was the name of Isaac's late sister. Not sure about the Iylar part, though. Somewhere I got the impression that Sylar's name was Paul Sylar, but that may have been pure speculation.
cryptaknight
QUOTE (Keshire @ Nov 13 2006, 10:51 PM) *
Paul Sylar is located on the Hero map of NBC.com


Thank you. I'm not going crazy.

And thank you as well to the person who corrected the name; I didn't think that the OP had it quite right. Shandi is the name of Mohinder's sister, though, although that would make her Shandi Suresh.
IslandGirl
Last name is listed first so the boy's name is really Iyer Sanjog.
narcissus
QUOTE (IslandGirl @ Nov 14 2006, 03:19 AM) *
Last name is listed first so the boy's name is really Iyer Sanjog.


Is it definite that the kid is a boi?
LurkNoMore
Sanjog is a male given name meaning coincidence
http://www.indianchild.com/baby_name_indian_boy_s.htm
http://utopianvision.co.uk/services/indian...es/?name=Sanjog

Iyer is an indian "surname"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iyer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_name

So, yes, you could say he was S. Iyer (but that's not Sylar, I think the writers are having a laugh - it's just a ...coincidence... wink.gif)

This might also be of interest.
http://heroeswiki.com/The_key very strongly suggesting (in fact telling you) the boy has dream related powers (not Mohinder)
Keshire
QUOTE (Kez @ Nov 14 2006, 12:55 AM) *
But, Mohinder's father had the key to the desk with him in New York, which means he locked that file away before he ever met Sylar, who is 40 something, while the kid is 12 or so, so it can't be the same person.


Patient 0 would be the first person born with an ability or alternatively first person to actively use or develop one.

Patient 0 may be the oldest living Hero.
Sarel
QUOTE (LurkNoMore @ Nov 14 2006, 02:55 AM) *
Sanjog is a male given name meaning coincidence
http://www.indianchild.com/baby_name_indian_boy_s.htm
http://utopianvision.co.uk/services/indian...es/?name=Sanjog

Iyer is an indian "surname"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iyer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_name

So, yes, you could say he was S. Iyer (but that's not Sylar, I think the writers are having a laugh - it's just a ...coincidence... wink.gif)

This might also be of interest.
http://heroeswiki.com/The_key


smile.gif lol

Side, how did Chandra Suresh even track down all the "heroes" on the map in the first place?
LurkNoMore
QUOTE (Keshire @ Nov 14 2006, 10:07 AM) *
Patient 0 may be the oldest living Hero.

Sylar is the oldest known "super" yes.
Palmetto Swamp Fox
QUOTE (cryptaknight @ Nov 14 2006, 01:46 AM) *
Shandi was the name of Isaac's late sister. Not sure about the Iylar part, though. Somewhere I got the impression that Sylar's name was Paul Sylar, but that may have been pure speculation.



Actually it is Brandon.

I found out who Silar is.
Tynesha
QUOTE (Palmetto Swamp Fox @ Nov 14 2006, 07:35 AM) *
Actually it is Brandon.

I found out who Silar is.

XD LOL
quewlmom
QUOTE (Kez @ Nov 14 2006, 01:55 AM) *
Mohinder's sister's name was Shanti, who died at the age of 5 according to the mother, so this isn't her either.

But, Mohinder's father had the key to the desk with him in New York, which means he locked that file away before he ever met Sylar, who is 40 something, while the kid is 12 or so, so it can't be the same person. Sylar was born in Denver, not India, according to the NBC gallery of pictures.

Not only was Mohinder's sister 5 when she died, but he was only 2 (according to his Mother, per their conversation) at the time.

As for Sylar being in his 40's:
That assumption is the product of speculation, not absolute fact. The actor who is/will be playing Sylar is actually only about 30 yrs old IRL. Unless TPTB decide to "explain" how he would appear at least a decade younger, all the info about Sylar's age may just end up being a very well crafted case of "bait & switch".
seacrest
QUOTE (quewlmom @ Nov 14 2006, 09:32 AM) *
Not only was Mohinder's sister 5 when she died, but he was only 2 (according to his Mother, per their conversation) at the time.

As for Sylar being in his 40's:
That assumption is the product of speculation, not absolute fact. The actor who is/will be playing Sylar is actually only about 30 yrs old IRL. Unless TPTB decide to "explain" how he would appear at least a decade younger, all the info about Sylar's age may just end up being a very well crafted case of "bait & switch".


NOT SPECULATION ****

They gave you sylar's date of birth. Along with his full name and where he was born. Its on one of the maps mohinder finds! He is in his late 30's. Assuming the show takes place in '06
Peter Parker
QUOTE (Keshire @ Nov 14 2006, 07:51 AM) *
Paul Sylar is located on the Hero map of NBC.com


Im sorry, what hero map? unsure.gif
NCmacASL
Was it ever confirmed that the Soccer Boy was ever physically in the present? He only seemed to be in the "visions" and it is curious he has the exact same outfit as was in the picture, from the file, from weeks, if not months or years, before.
iced-tear
QUOTE (NCmacASL @ Nov 14 2006, 10:23 AM) *
Was it ever confirmed that the Soccer Boy was ever physically in the present? He only seemed to be in the "visions" and it is curious he has the exact same outfit as was in the picture, from the file, from weeks, if not months or years, before.



having watched the epidsode twice...the boy is not indeed in real time. When we saw him in the office, Mo chased him down the stair (here it appears that the boy was indeed real) BUT as Mo opened the door he then found himself in an alley where his father got killed.
NCmacASL
Was it ever confirmed that the Soccer Boy was ever physically in the present? He only seemed to be in the "visions" and it is curious he has the exact same outfit as was in the picture, from the file, from weeks, if not months or years, before.
cmp66
QUOTE (Peter Parker @ Nov 14 2006, 08:48 AM) *
Im sorry, what hero map? unsure.gif


Yes, I was wondering the same thing..I'm new to the site and have not found everything yet.
MandaBrook
I remember when NBC first posted the "Paul Sylar" birth announcment - along with the other dozens of photos - and I was SOOO excited, however, since then, I've spent some more time with the photo gallery and I realized something interesting...

SYLAR'S birth announcment was actually put up there by Mohinder... NOT his dad... much of that stuff (like many of the murder articles) was not on the NYC map, until Mohinder put it there... there is even a picture of Mohinder putting up the "sylar" altar boy picture...

http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/photos/hro_1001_055.shtml

Could it be that Mohinder was trying to figure out who Sylar is, and did his own research, but was in fact Mistaken? What if this was just the only "Sylar" birth announcement that he found? That doesn't make it correct, does it? What if Sylar really is more of a nickname, not actually Paul E. Sylar...

This is probably wrong, but it just seemed strange to me...

Any thoughts? Maybe this should be a seperate post.. oh well.
Kez
QUOTE (quewlmom @ Nov 14 2006, 08:32 AM) *
As for Sylar being in his 40's:
That assumption is the product of speculation, not absolute fact. The actor who is/will be playing Sylar is actually only about 30 yrs old IRL. Unless TPTB decide to "explain" how he would appear at least a decade younger, all the info about Sylar's age may just end up being a very well crafted case of "bait & switch".


Paul E. Sylar was born June 11, 1962, in Denver, which would make him 40 something. In episode 3, Mohinder is going through Sylar's file that his father had, and is putting the information in the file (picture, newspaper clippings) up next to the map.

http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/photos/hro_1001_040.shtml
http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/photos/hro_1001_058.shtml
Dunc
QUOTE (cryptaknight @ Nov 14 2006, 06:46 AM) *
Shandi was the name of Isaac's late sister.

Shandi? What kind? Bass? I remember trying to get drunk off of Shandy when I was too young to know it was too weak to get drunk off. You have to drink about 8 litres of it to get a slight buzz.
AnarchyFist
QUOTE (LurkNoMore @ Nov 14 2006, 03:55 AM) *
Sanjog is a male given name meaning coincidence
http://www.indianchild.com/baby_name_indian_boy_s.htm
http://utopianvision.co.uk/services/indian...es/?name=Sanjog

Iyer is an indian "surname"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iyer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_name

So, yes, you could say he was S. Iyer (but that's not Sylar, I think the writers are having a laugh - it's just a ...coincidence... wink.gif)

This might also be of interest.
http://heroeswiki.com/The_key very strongly suggesting (in fact telling you) the boy has dream related powers (not Mohinder)


Indian names are arranged differently than American names, so I think that the order of the name is correct. They've got a long thing on Wikipedia about Indian names, but its not very concise.
lampshade
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0813715/fullcredits

Here are the correct names and the actors that play them...



Sean Bean .. Paul Sylar (2 episodes, 2006)
Javin Reid .. Sanjog Iyer (2 episodes, 2006)

They don't have actors listed for Charlie and Ted, but they do have a few characters I haven't seen yet..

Angela Petrelli
Simon Petrelli Possibly Nathan's children ?
Weasel
Ms. Sakamoto
onjay
The boy seemed to be able to go into Mohinder's thoughts. So if that is true, than maybe he is using the minds of other people to do his biddings.

That would help explain the S. Iyer thing you have going on, which I think, is very perceptive of you!
Explosivo
QUOTE (seacrest @ Nov 14 2006, 09:38 AM) *
NOT SPECULATION ****

They gave you sylar's date of birth. Along with his full name and where he was born. Its on one of the maps mohinder finds! He is in his late 30's. Assuming the show takes place in '06

That's the birth date of PAUL Sylar. If you'll notice, they conveniently never reveal the first name of the person they are chasing. 'Paul' Sylar is 44. But Sylar the villain is not - not if they're using Zach Quinto to play him. The only other possible explanation is that he doesn't age rapidly.
PreKrime
QUOTE (Explosivo @ Nov 14 2006, 08:58 PM) *
That's the birth date of PAUL Sylar. If you'll notice, they conveniently never reveal the first name of the person they are chasing. 'Paul' Sylar is 44. But Sylar the villain is not - not if they're using Zach Quinto to play him. The only other possible explanation is that he doesn't age rapidly.


...or PAUL Sylar is another Sylar like his son, brother or father.
misterpsi
Mohinders exgirlfriend works for Sylar!
Rocky Dragon
QUOTE (herosfan @ Nov 14 2006, 01:44 AM) *
i have been looking around the different topics on this forum, and no one has mentioned the name on the little Indian child's folder. If you look at the name it says "Sanjog, Iyer" (i'm not sure about the spelling of the name, but i know the first initial along with the last name was pronounced SYLAR) could this be who sylar really is?



Sorry but Sylar is a white person and that boy was Indian. so unless Sylar's power is to change his genetics or he is a shapeshifter I'd have to throw water on the theory.
badtitties
QUOTE (lampshade @ Nov 14 2006, 09:26 PM) *
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0813715/fullcredits

Here are the correct names and the actors that play them...
Sean Bean .. Paul Sylar (2 episodes, 2006)
Javin Reid .. Sanjog Iyer (2 episodes, 2006)


Sean Bean isn't the actor playing Sylar. IMDB is incorrect fairly often, so don't take anything they have listed as set in stone.

The real actors name is out there if you want to search for it, though.
YoShIe
QUOTE (Sarel @ Nov 14 2006, 05:12 AM) *
Side, how did Chandra Suresh even track down all the "heroes" on the map in the first place?

We've been led to believe it has to do with whatever that program is on all the computers that Chandra used - but I suspect there is more to it than that.. as the program isn't going to produce names & addresses.. which the map clearly had.

I'm fairly certain that at one point, Chandra and HRG were working together (there is even a screencapture that shows this). They could have taken their work and combined it into the map.
Kez
QUOTE (lampshade @ Nov 14 2006, 08:26 PM) *
They don't have actors listed for Charlie and Ted, but they do have a few characters I haven't seen yet..

Angela Petrelli
Simon Petrelli Possibly Nathan's children ?
Weasel
Ms. Sakamoto


I'm pretty sure Ms. Sakamoto was the lady that Niki & Nathan talked to in Las Vegas, who's boss is Mr. Linderman. She offered Niki the deal to erase her debt. I think that later Nathan says her name, but I'm not sure. If that's not her then I donno who it could be.
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