Taken from the post I put this in - this has to be significant. Thoughts?


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Oh my god. I just had an amazing revelation.
Maybe Hiro cannot change the past at all. NOT AT ALL.
Thinking about it now.. maybe him going to the past to stop it already happened before he even went ( it wouldve had to have )

And I good reason I can account to this is:

Did Hiro actually give her the book on Japanese HIMSELF for he rbirthday, or did she maybe get it because of meeting him in the first place, in the past?

If this is all written already... then Hiro coming back from the future wont be able to prevent whats already written in history

I'm currently very inclined to believe that there is no way to change what Isaac has painted but Hiro has changed the past twice now.

Once when he comes back to warn Peter and once when he goes back to save Charlie (you see the picture change so something did actually change).

I don't think Hiro will be able to change the past, or future, drastically, but he can change it to some extent.

You know, I wondered that when he came back to talk to Peter. Maybe peter TOLD him that the only reason he knew to pick up the phone was because him from the future had told him to. So he had no choice but to go back and tell him because technically it had ALREADY HAPPENED!

This is a very good point. It seems Hiro's already been back in the past if she's already gotten the book from him...and she ends up dead talking to him later.

So maybe she does stay dead. Her instant recall is fairly powerful, but perhaps there has to be a few more bodies to stack up.

Nostradamus, probably one of the more famed tellers of the future. Supposedly predicting Hitler and other bad events in history said he didn't tell it so we knew what would happen. He told it so we could change it. I don't think nothing is written. Hiro can alter something and possibly make it worse though.

No fate but what we make

deja vu?

if hiro gave her the first book he'd be stuck in a loop and therefore could not alter the past.

But if he gave her the book he did alter the past. You have paradoxed yourself, or at least contradicted yourself.

Future Hiro's appearance to Peter has been bothering me for quite some time now, and makes me wonder what event in the future would so alarm Hiro that he would come back and risk a "rift" to offer a warning. Because Future Hiro is made to look at least a few years older than current Hiro, I wonder if future Hiro has some other fish to fry completely (or perhaps just marginally) unrelated to the blow-up of New York. Without knowing what future events Hiro is trying to influence, we don't positively know if his appearance to Peter has actually changed the future. It is entirely plausible that the future he was trying to prevent was actually unwittingly caused by his interference with Peter on the subway.

However, we were shown the picture without Hiro and the picture suddenly with Hiro after he time shifts. As much as everyone likes Charlie, however, if Hiro manages to save her without grave repurcussions to discourage him from playing tiddly-winks with time the show is rather pointless because Hiro is vastly too powerful and might as well blip back and shoot Sylar before he starts killing people (thus saving New York and lots of other murderer Heroes in the process).

ouch! time travel gives me a headache!