stop, no one is right, it's all semantics, well time is a measure of, blah blah, but it's made up by man, blah blah, who cares. i'm trying to read about the episode, and every einstein wannabe has to throw in their two cents because they think they know everything, and write 8000 word posts. truth is, it's a concept, no emperical evidence to prove who is right.

You do know what's going to happen now don't you...

maybe you can go back in time and stop all this foolishness.

hee hee

For these threads to be so popular and have 6+ pages of posts I think there are several people here like me who just love discussing time travel and its many possibilities. I agree that some may take it a little far but I love reading other people's thoughts and opinions on the topic and compare them to my own. It is just fun!

So, you'd rather have these boards overrun by pointless threads about which Hero is supposedly is Sylar or who is the hottest guy/girl on Heroes? If so then fine but in the mean time if those of us who discuss the aspects of time travel want to discuss time travel then we have the right to post such threads just as much as you have the right to post threads about what Sylar ate for breakfast this morning.

Also remember that the show features time travel. Its hard for people to understand sometimes. What starts out as someone trying to help explain something ends up way off topic. It's really not intentional and for most of us it starts with good intentions.

And like jamyp, some of us just enjoy the cut and thrust of debate and discussion.

I'm sorry it turns some people off, and I'll promise to try harder on my own part to resist the urge, but I can't promise I'll be able to

Apparently, it's much better to have a hundred threads talking about how much folks are bored with Niki or why so many people like Hiro (both topics I personally find depressingly dull)... than one thought provoking thread on the possible way Hiro's abilities work. This is the kind of thing I'd expect from my six-year-old (who has a hard time grasping complex concepts.. like picking up after himself). I recommend ignoring them...

I suggest that there should be a section on the forums that just discusses time travel theories and speculation. There's a ton of interest in it and people will know exactly where to go to get their Einstein Satisfaction.


I can understand the OP point of time being a concept and his frustration over some of the crazy theories people have thrown out there, but I don't think telling people to stop talking about it is the solution. I'd rather have people air their ridiculous (and not so ridiculous) theories. It can be quite entertaining.

I have to agree that time travel should be discussed, but there are so many redundant threads on it. I've seen the same topic about Hiro changing time over and over.

Doesn't anyone use the search feature? I just entered in "time travel" and it came up with 27 threads. When i just enter in time, it's over 15 pages of topics. The first couple pages of the search comes up with these:

Time Travel Discussion
Time Travel
Time travel repercussions
What if Hiro comes back WITHOUT time travel?
A Way Around Many Time Travel Paradoxes
Did Hiro travel through/stop time twice at the diner?
Theories of Time Travel

I repeat, there should be a section devoted to just time travel theories.

The thing is you can say the same about almost any topic that comes up here. The fact there are so many topics discussing time travelling is something of an indication that people consider it important. Or merely interesting.

We could have a "Peter is Sylar" section. A "Ted is the Bomb" section, a "Why save the cheerleader" section etc.

Very quickly I did a search for topics with "cheerleader" in the title and there are two pages of them. If I search for cheerleader anywhere in the post there is 15 pages of topics. Just the same as you found for time. Obviously "cheerleader" is integral to the plot. But so is "time travel". One of the main characters is a cheerleader and another is a time traveller. What did you expect?

Should we marginalise or ban people who want to talk about cheerleaders just like those who want to talk about time travel?

(btw, if you review the search results for time, more than half of them are "first time", "long time", "fun time" etc. Nothing to do with time travel)

And even if we did section off every topic of discussion, people would post their posts wherever they feel like it.

Time travel is a theme that is going to impact the entire show, it isn't a random topic that will come and go.

My suggestion didn't have to do with banning or marginalizing. This is so people who are interested in the topic can access the information more easily and quickly.

I'd actually rather go directly to an area that deals with time travel so i don't have to weed through the Sylar's Diet threads.

If anything, there will be a concentration of information in one place. Ideas will hopefully spawn ideas. I actually see more creative threads coming out of a section devoted entirely to time travel theories (about the show and otherwise).

I accept what you're saying but my point still stands. How do we decide which topics need their own section?

We might find that after a couple more episodes we find out that time travel is not viable in the show and Hiro never does it again (expect the one time he visits Peter, which we may never actually see).

I agree, because I can find next to nothing on Mohinder's escapades. I guess it is buried in the live discussion and "what we know" or however the thread is called.

We should have kept that to a few threads rather than about 2/3 of this whole board. Just count them, it's not far off, I guess. Can't say I'm surprised, because, obviously, time travel is cool and all. If you remember, HRG said so himself.

I find it confusing and easily damaging a show if not done extremely well. We'll see.

[quote name='LurkNoMore' date='Nov 17 2006, 03:24 PM' post='84376']
The thing is you can say the same about almost any topic that comes up here. The fact there are so many topics discussing time travelling is something of an indication that people consider it important. Or merely interesting.
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This is what I think happens, since I have seen some of the newer trailers.
THIS MAY BE A SPOILER FOR SOME/!
Hiro makes his first attempt to go backwards in time, He is not good at it, and goes back six months instead of a few minutes or hours, as he goes to save Charlie the waitress.
In the last scene in the last show,Hiro tells his pal Ando, He is going back in time to save Charlie, "just count to five and I will be right back." Hiro then teleports out of the diner in to the past, and vanished.
Ando couldn't leave the diner because the Police told him the needed a statement from him.
Ando counts to five and Hiro does not appear. Ando gets up from his table and wanderd over to stand beside the Jukebox. and is still waiting to be interviewed by the Policeman. There is picture behind him(Ando) showing Hiro and Charlie standing under a Birthday Banner showing Hiro and Charlie. Hiro was not in the picture earlier.
The truth is... when Hero goes back six months, he doesn't have his time bending-powers as yet since it is six months ago and his powers have come to be his only the last few weeks, THUS>>>>>>>>. HIRO is stuck in time past,
He also discovers that he knows almost no English, so he goes and buys a Japanese to English book,

Ando six months ago is working in Japan with Hiro, so the Texas Hiro is alone without his friend. This frightens Hiro.
Hiro then decides to call his office in Japan to speak with his friend Ando, and asks the person who answers in Japan, to put Ando on the phone. He is told that Ando is out sick and not at work that day.
It is then he realizes he is talking to himself . Again Hiro is frightened, The Hiro in Japan gives the Texas Hiro a message from the future with directions as to what he should do,
He leaves the book at the diner, and applies for a job at the diner, since he knows he has some time to kill in Texas before he regains and redevelopes his time bending powers again. Hiro applies for a job at the diner, but Hiro doesn't stay working there for long.
Charlie , who is a no memory, dimwited Klutz working at the diner, finds the book Hiro has left her for her birthday. and as her photographic memory comes in to being, she starts reading her book, left by Hiro, and is learning Japanese.
Hiro travels to Japan, and reunites with his other Hiro being, thus closing the time rift.
One of the things the present Hiro tells the six month ago Hiro is," There are no do-overs," This is why Hiro leaves Texas back for Japan. The future Hiro will solve the time rift problems.

How's that for a realistic version of six months earlier?

Um. I dont think Hiro will ever meet himself in the past. I think this is exactly what would cause a "Rift". Dont you know who Dr. Emmet Brown is?

Plus, Hiro is so cool that if there were ever two of them in the same place the world would enter an other Ice age

Ditto Bat Girl. Nuff said.

That doesn't make sense. If he travels back in time, why would he all of a sudden lose his time travel abilities? And why would he know almost no English? This isn't even related to his powers!

I understand why you're thinking this, but you can't continue on this train of thought without following it out to his conclusion which include something like Hiro would be wondering why he's in America.

Think about it this way: When future Hiro comes to Peter in the Subway, he all of a sudden didn't have less control of his abilities did he? That's what you're implying. That when Hiro goes back in time, he only can control his abilities at the point in time that he's at. And that just doesn't make sense.

Don't take it personally, I just don't think it fits into what we've been shown by the show's creators.

I only like talking about time travel with you.

this explains why when hiro visits peter that he looks the same, has very broken english and has trouble getting back to the future as he has only just started to use his powers.

I agree.Keeping time travel as a fix to every bad situation would make for a very boring show.

wow, comparing me to your 6 year old. Are you mad that you don't understand time travel and are taking it out on me? you do not understand it, so, since you don't get this 'complex concept' you just compared yourself to your child. good job mario, i mean yoshie.

you get complex concepts, why don't you tell me when to recognize revenue on a gift certificate. that should be an easy one

i am by no stretch the smartest peron, but i'm not dumb enough to think i know how time travel works

Dude, Clamzoopa, chill out.

It seems like your getting angry at people because they want to try and understand time travel, and understand how Hiro's ability works. There are things in life that are just not worth getting upset about.

Plus, none of us knows how Hiro's time travel works. Hell, 99% of our theories turn out to be wrong anyway, but if people want to discuss it, then let them.

From your point of view, people with super-powers is also "made up by man". So, let's stop watching Heroes!

Serious dude, stop acting like a n00b and let us be.

I'm a fan of time travel and it's theories and paradoxes. And by the way: TIME TRAVEL IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE!

This thread is useless.


Fourth Dimension (Time travel) is tough for us because we live in a 3D universe. It's like a 2D universe imaging a 3D one. If we lived in a 5D universe we could comprehend 4D like a 3D comprehend a 2D.