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Asudai
or did I just miss the part where they explained the meaning of "Save the Cheerleader; Save the World"?

I thought they said we'd finally learn what that meant unsure.gif
SuprSpy79
Good Point. Cuz I still dont get how the saved the world UNLESS she needed to be around to save peter so he could save the world who knows.
Ard_Choille
I don't think it was about finding out what it "meant". It was merely part of getting all the parts in the right place.
Zora
I'm sure it's not the case but...

a small part of me is worried that he didn't save the right cheerleader. :-X
Tekno
We must both have missed it...
Esor
how come you're still worried about that?

it seems like papa suresh may know something about claire beyond what we see that puts mr. bennet on a hunch that she needs to be saved eventually
iced-tear
QUOTE (tacomolly @ Nov 20 2006, 10:19 PM) *
This "Homecoing" show really sucked. Way too much too hype, and very little
Substance.
This is a typical NBC Hollywood blunder. We were offered meat and potatoes, we got burnt toast instead,
I for one, was very dissapointed,

How about you?



sorry to say that you might be the only one on that boat...I love it !
tacomolly
QUOTE (Tekno @ Nov 20 2006, 09:09 PM) *
We must both have missed it...

This "Homecoing" show really sucked. Way too much too hype, and very little
Substance.
This is a typical NBC Hollywood blunder. We were offered meat and potatoes, we got burnt toast instead,
I for one, was very dissapointed,

How about you?
Zora
QUOTE (Esor @ Nov 20 2006, 10:14 PM) *
how come you're still worried about that?

it seems like papa suresh may know something about claire beyond what we see that puts mr. bennet on a hunch that she needs to be saved eventually


I'm worried because even despite people trying to change the future after seeing Issac's artwork, all of his paintings STILL all come true.

So is the world now safe? I'm doubting it. A cheerleader still died tonight.

And by the way, I think HRG was just looking peeved because he doesn't like the idea of anybody else knowing about his baby girl.
Leo :D
QUOTE (Zora @ Nov 21 2006, 03:20 AM) *
I'm worried because even despite people trying to change the future after seeing Issac's artwork, all of his paintings STILL all come true.

So is the world now safe? I'm doubting it. A cheerleader still died tonight.

And by the way, I think HRG was just looking peeved because he doesn't like the idea of anybody else knowing about his baby girl.

True, but the big moster thingy hasn't popped up yet. At least, kinda. Claire never trips on the steps. But you are right, everything is coming true, without fail (Although the one were Peter flies and he's smiling, well he really wasn't smiling when he jumped off the roof, his brother saved him, and he instinctivily floated down , kinda, or am I wrong? I'm probly wrong tongue.gif)
gchicago9
QUOTE (iced-tear @ Nov 20 2006, 09:19 PM) *
sorry to say that you might be the only one on that boat...I love it !



well, i WAS kinda disappointed. While im not saying this wasnt a good episode, it was just a tad over-hyped.
#1heroesfan
i don't remember anything about them actually saying what the meaning is in this episode.

my theory is that the "save the cheerleader, save the world" isn't necessarily a 1 sentence meaning, by that i mean...its actually a 2 part sentence.

first they have to say the cheerleader, THEN save the world.

not, if you save the cheerleader, you'll save the world.
addictedtoheroes
QUOTE (Zora @ Nov 20 2006, 10:20 PM) *
I'm worried because even despite people trying to change the future after seeing Issac's artwork, all of his paintings STILL all come true.

So is the world now safe? I'm doubting it. A cheerleader still died tonight.

And by the way, I think HRG was just looking peeved because he doesn't like the idea of anybody else knowing about his baby girl.

yes i also agree with this, so nyc will blow up
TrueSacredRahXephon
It's because if they DIDN'T save Claire, Sylar would be invincible.
catman20716
QUOTE (Zora @ Nov 20 2006, 10:13 PM) *
I'm sure it's not the case but...

a small part of me is worried that he didn't save the right cheerleader. :-X


The picture that Peter finished of the painting could have been of the cheerleader who died and not Claire.
scifantasyx
They just said that the event would finally happen. Not why. Also, it's because Sylar probably absorbs peoples powers when he absorbs their brains, so if he had rapid regeneration he would be unstoppable. (But that's not for certain.) Also...I think the episode was AWESOME!
chervil
I have to agree with the overhype and disappointment.
We were promised that "tonight, you will finally learn the meaning behind these words: Save the Cheerleader, save the world"
Um, gotta concur that I never figured out what the meaning was behind the fact that Peter had to keep her from being killed.
And so Peter is in jail now? For murder?
Hmmm.
And didn't Simone say she was going with him right before they kissed?
Or am I mistaken...
Zora
QUOTE (TrueSacredRahXephon @ Nov 20 2006, 10:58 PM) *
It's because if they DIDN'T save Claire, Sylar would be invincible.


Where did we find out for certain that the reason Sylar is slicing brains is to steal people's powers? rolleyes.gif

And last time I checked, Sylar has been only killing Heroes. Inconvienent, yes, but so far he hasn't been threatening the world-at-large.

Right now, the human atomic bomb (aka Ted) is a MUCH bigger threat to me, and nobody has done anything successful towards containing him. We even know HRG had him in custody at one point, and let him go.
TrueSacredRahXephon
QUOTE (chervil @ Nov 20 2006, 11:02 PM) *
And so Peter is in jail now? For murder?
Hmmm.

All the blood on him is his though, isn't it?
jaysncards
I thought it was a very good episode, though I concur it was a tad over-hyped. On the other hand, did anyone really think that we were going to get all the answers in episode 9 of 23, no matter what the hype said?
Zora
QUOTE (chervil @ Nov 20 2006, 11:02 PM) *
I have to agree with the overhype and disappointment.
We were promised that "tonight, you will finally learn the meaning behind these words: Save the Cheerleader, save the world"
Um, gotta concur that I never figured out what the meaning was behind the fact that Peter had to keep her from being killed.
And so Peter is in jail now? For murder?


Did they promise that? I missed it. Maybe they did, I'm not doubting you. All I remember is hearing that "THE EVENT" (saving the cheerleader) would happen. But then, I don't watch much television.

For all the people who felt like this was overhyped...I think a lot of people on this forum were doing a lot of said hyping, lol.
iced-tear
Person A level of Hype

--------------------->


Person B level of Hype

------------------------------->


Person C level of Hype

----------------------------------------->


Point, everyone's level of hype is different.
Jerry
I'm not sure if some of you even watched the same episode. If Mr. Bennett had the ability to get Eden & the Haitian to take down Sylar, just imagine what he would have done had Sylar killed Claire. He's already got a few screws loose, killing his baby girl would make him do something drastic to get his revenge. Including blowing up New York..
Tekno
QUOTE
I don't think it was about finding out what it "meant". It was merely part of getting all the parts in the right place.


Well, the episode was obviously not about finding out what it 'meant', but the TV spots certainly led us to believe it was. In fact, a few even said "Find out what the meaning of the words everyone is talking about really is...Save the Cheerleader...Save the world..."

Again, I wasn't disappointed in the episode, I was disappointed in the hype. This wasn't THE episode it was advertised to be.
The Alternative One
QUOTE (Asudai @ Nov 20 2006, 09:08 PM) *
or did I just miss the part where they explained the meaning of "Save the Cheerleader; Save the World"?

I thought they said we'd finally learn what that meant unsure.gif


In the most basic way we did learn exactly what it "meant" and when taken literally means that because the cheerleader was saved the world will be too! They have changed the course of history.

QUOTE (Tekno @ Nov 21 2006, 09:21 AM) *
Well, the episode was obviously not about finding out what it 'meant', but the TV spots certainly led us to believe it was. In fact, a few even said "Find out what the meaning of the words everyone is talking about really is...Save the Cheerleader...Save the world..."

Again, I wasn't disappointed in the episode, I was disappointed in the hype. This wasn't THE episode it was advertised to be.


It is exactly what it was advertised to be. Homecoming! No one said every answer YOU were expecting would be given. The powers that be didn't even say ANY answers would be given. They just told us that by saving the cheerleader the rest of us could continue breathing for a while more. And now we can! For those who didn't get the answers they wanted well, I'd just keep watching and without too many expectations other than being entertained for an hour on a Monday night!
Joe
QUOTE (Tekno @ Nov 20 2006, 09:09 PM) *
We must both have missed it...


I guess You haven't notice that perhaps the fact that Peter "fought" with Sylar made it posibble for Eden to caught him at the end of the episode?

Just a guess..
FLASH_ZOOM
QUOTE (SuprSpy79 @ Nov 20 2006, 10:10 PM) *
Good Point. Cuz I still dont get how the saved the world UNLESS she needed to be around to save peter so he could save the world who knows.

That's probably it. Peter has to save Claire as they will be necessary in the end. I don't think last night is where he gets his scar.
V.A.N
Question, would y'all that were dissapointed by the episode, only dissappointed because of the Hype? If you had not heard, seen any of the hype would you have liked the episode more? Forget the hype, Hype is infomercials for tv programs. Remember the Ginsu knives, or DD7 instant stain remover.

I guess where I 'm going with this is, would you have still wanted to watch the show without the hype? wink.gif
Delxain
Personally I thought it was a really good episode, though I was a little disapointed in the lackluster fight between Peter and Syalar... As for Peter going to jail, Clair can tetify for him and even without her defense the forensic ( did I spell that right?) evidence will clear him. First of all there is a strong possiblily that Sylar's fingerprints will be on the dead cheerleaders neck, Peter was never in the room so there won't be any footprints in the blood which there would have to be if he was the killer, also there may be some traces of the cheerleaders blood on Peter from when Sylar fell on him but not nearly the amount that would have to be on him if he was the killer, man I love CSI. But what Peter's arrest will do (other than screw up Nathan's campaign smile.gif ) is give him the opportunity to meet Matt, that will be fun.
rayne
QUOTE (SuprSpy79 @ Nov 20 2006, 10:10 PM) *
Good Point. Cuz I still dont get how the saved the world UNLESS she needed to be around to save peter so he could save the world who knows.

n' BINGO was his name o..i think you have it right!
Hyro
QUOTE (Asudai @ Nov 20 2006, 07:08 PM) *
or did I just miss the part where they explained the meaning of "Save the Cheerleader; Save the World"?

I thought they said we'd finally learn what that meant unsure.gif



It was a good episode, but it was also insulting how much fake hype they used to promote it. I hope they start having a little bit more respect for the fans of the show and stop giving us b.s. promos.
Aragorn2001
Claire will be the person who saves the world. Kind of like when Wolverine killed phoenix/jean Gray. He was the only person who could get close enough to her without being incinerated.
steve2112
QUOTE (Aragorn2001 @ Nov 22 2006, 05:32 PM) *
Claire will be the person who saves the world. Kind of like when Wolverine killed phoenix/jean Gray. He was the only person who could get close enough to her without being incinerated.


Wolvie killing Jean in X Men 3 was the biggest croc of ****** I ever saw...

They took like half a page from the original phoenix saga and turned it into the whole freakin movie..

Now as for this episode. this episode was excellent like the others. I've been thinking about this and maybe one person in this whole thread got it.

all the pieces are in place as another poster said.. Or at least they are in motion now. This save the cheerleader save the world thing is more likely a symbolic meaning than a literal one.
Toc Rat
QUOTE (TrueSacredRahXephon @ Nov 20 2006, 08:07 PM) *
All the blood on him is his though, isn't it?


Any half decent test of all the blood on Peter will clearly show it is his blood, not either of the Cheerleaders. Next we have the complete lack of a murder weapon followed closely by no motif.

All that points to Peter being either A: released after 24 hours or B: Found not guilty at his trial.
Lesamlam
If they saved the world last night... what would the rest of the episodes be about? You know they're going to drag it all out and make us want more and more.

I agree that now Peter will meet with Matt. And Peter and Claire are alive to help save the world from blowing up... so by saving the cheerleader, they saved the world because they will be able to save it since she's alive... did that make sense? Perhaps she's critical in stopping the explosion in NY.
Ozma
QUOTE (SuprSpy79 @ Nov 20 2006, 10:10 PM) *
I still dont get how the saved the world UNLESS she needed to be around to save peter so he could save the world who knows.
But Future Hiro said he spoke to Peter "before it all happened" (the explosion?). So that means Peter is alive, and Claire is dead, in Future Hiro's timeline. Thus, I think it's safe to assume that Peter was never MEANT to be at Union Wells and save Claire. I keep saying Claire because I highly doubt Jackie was the one Peter had to save. Bottom line : Peter saved the cheerleader, but was it enough to save the world?

QUOTE (Zora @ Nov 20 2006, 10:20 PM) *
I'm worried because even despite people trying to change the future after seeing Issac's artwork, all of his paintings STILL all come true.
Um, no, they don't. Isaac painted both Hiro and Ando at Union Wells, in front of the bloody homecoming banner. That never happened.
At least not yet.
But it would be pointless for them to go back now, considering Claire survived.
Ugh, time travel confuses me so... unsure.gif
ducati748
QUOTE (Asudai @ Nov 20 2006, 09:08 PM) *
or did I just miss the part where they explained the meaning of "Save the Cheerleader; Save the World"?

I thought they said we'd finally learn what that meant unsure.gif


I think it meant Saving the Cheerleader will help save the world, she is essentian to the whole "saving the world" plan.
meg
I am wondering why everyone thinks that is Clair is going to be considered innocent. She was there at the time of the murder, supposedly fighting with Jackie, she had punched her earlier that day, there was an obvious rivalry, I mean she actually had a motive, she has no alibi (in fact members of the cheerleading team can place her at the site of the murder), and the only whitness, Peter, could be considered her accomplice.

If both Clair and Peter tell the truth, no one will believe them. If they don't their stories won't match up, and there will be holes making them appear guilty. I don't think it is going to be as simple as Clair telling the police that Peter didn't do it.
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