that is sylar's lackey, sylar is somehow able to control people. the person they show as saying "i am sylar" is not him, it's some dude w/ glasses and a bit chubby. also think about it, when sylar falls he doesn't have ANY blood like peter did (what the hell could explain that?). remember that sylar didn't bleed or appear hurt after being shot and flying backwards from being shot, after which he either disappeared or flew away.

also there would be no more storyline if Sylar is that dude. Haitian guy would just erase his memory and Eden could control him if anything bad happenned (yes he was injured, but after this expect him to be heavily sedated).

also, we've seen images (thread or source someone) that show Sylar as a 40-50 year old (Paul Sylar).

i'm thinking that sylar is able to control people somehow.

also see http://www.9thwonders.com/boards/index.php...c=17767&hl=
post #8 for me suggesting that Sylar could possibly be using other people.

this could be the role Meat Loaf turned down, the real "Sylar"

ALSO, this is what HERO found

[quote name='HERΟ' date='Nov 20 2006, 04:25 PM' post='86632']
Can anyone confirm/deny this
[QUOTE
Eccleston the Hero

Christopher Eccleston has landed a role to star in the hit US science fiction TV series 'HEROES', which sees a group of people unite to stop a nuclear explosion with their superpowers.

The 42-year-old actor impressed audiences across the Atlantic with his portrayal of the Time Lord in cult British TV show 'Doctor Who', leading producers to sign him up for the similarly popular series in the US.

While the role Eccleston is set to play has yet to be revealed, rumours have emerged that he will take the part of mystery serial killer Sylar.

A show insider told British newspaper Daily Star: "Chris is a fantastic actor and we're delighted to have him on board. No one has seen Sylar and Christopher could be perfect as the bad guy".
QUOTE]

"news"?Note:
they spelled Sylar incorrectly...

Other news announcements didn't say that he could be Sylar, but I might've missed the memo.

Has anyone seen " Fallen", with Denzel Washington? Will Sylar's spirit/consciousness be able to take control of other people? Or will Sylar have some sort of astral projection abilities?!? Or why (if the different people are all Sylar) is there possibly more than one actor (Quinto, Eccleston) playing one character? Will there be a brain transplant?!?
[/quote]

so do you think sylar is the uluru or however you spell...just idle speculation...

Wait hold up...

Since when did Sylar control people? Your link didn't work.

that would explain how there were frozen bodies

I could've sworn it was Quinto's character confronting someone in a church in the preview and saying my name is Sylar. And also in the preview we see Quinto's character practicing his power with Chandra Suresh.

They reason they showed the fat guy was to throw people like you off. "Of so Sylar is a fat guy." It's Zachary Quinto period.

i thought the "chubby" guy was chandra?

That would be an easy out, I did rewind that.

So far Sylar has gotten shot and fell off a building without any blood.

TK can stop bullets and break your fall (Peter breaks your fall too)

ok this should work
http://www.9thwonders.com/boards/index.php...c=17767&hl=

No there was another scene in the preview with Sylar in a church like place and a white guy with glasses. The theory that Sylar was an abused altar boy might be true.

Of course Sylar can control people. They showed him controlling Audrey when she cornered him -- he made her point her own gun at her head before Matt got there and blew him away. So he's got the persuasion power, just Eden beat him to it.

Also, we never hear Sylar say anything...has he somehow lost his voice? Or they just wanted to keep him a mystery as long as they could (actor)?

First TK didn't stop him, he got hit by the bullets (rewatch the episode). Also Peter (as shown in the scene w/ the locker doors was deflecting the locker doors [watch it in slow mo, the doors were probably deflected by Peter's instinct but locker doors ARE NOT bullets]) was probably able to deflect Sylar's energy. And if Peter broke his fall, then Sylar landed on his face (as he was laying on top of peter's torso...explain that biznotch)


Aslo Quinto isn't old enough. From what we've seen from various spoilers and stuff (from NBC comics) he's suppposed to be 40 years old.

Chandra was Mohinders father.
I believe that Zachary Quinto's "Sylar", was the face in the foreground, to the side of the screen. He was saying "I am Sylar" TO the chubby dude.

He was using TK, she had her own thoughts still (she was afraid of the gun being shot in her head)

Sylar doesn't have persuasion power. He was using TK to force Audrey's hand to point the gun to her head.

Exactly, Sylar looks to be confronting a priest of some sorts.

Did you SEE the bullets hit his body?

We know that Paul E Sylar is 40 some years old. We do not know that "Sylar" is Paul E Sylar. I believe Paul is "Sylar's" father. I believe Forgive me Father is meant literally...

it is possible i'm wrong about this, but DID YOU SEE him jump backwards after being hit by the bullets? I mean why would Sylar even give a ****** if he wasn't hit? What is he going to convince those people that he's a normal human being you ah?

ALSO, i think i'm a little drunk, so this theory may be full of poo. Sorry guys, but something's not right in the state of Denmark here. B/w Sylar never bleeding and being able to move super fast and (potentially freezing people) ... there is something more than just he's zachary quinto.

Several reasons... he couldnt completely stop them and they knocked him back...

The force of stopping them so suddenly had an equal and opposite reaction on his body..

I thought it funny that if everyone is so set on his having a healing power, why the limp when he ran into Eden. I just don't get why so many of ya'll refuse to accept. He has PK and that is it. No freezing power. No mind control. Nothing else. Sorry.

Plus, when Sylar hit the ground, there was no blood. Looked to me like he tried to catch hinmself falling, but Peter screwed it up... so he ended up hitting hard enough to go out cold. He wakes up, thinks Peter is dead, and takes off...

Sorry i somehow posted before you. But basically i'm not fully convinced we know what/who Sylar fully is. Also Peter (watching the doors come at him in slow-mo) is never hit by him. You can't have it both ways, either he deflects them or he gets hit by them. Also we're not dealing w/ physics here..?

ALSO, i think i'm a little drunk, so this theory may be full of poo. Sorry guys, but something's not right in the state of Denmark here. B/w Sylar never bleeding and being able to move super fast and (potentially freezing people) ... there is something more than just he's zachary quinto.

Did anybody else notice the clockwork sounds when the man in the cap (whether he's Sylar or some kind of Sylar drone) confronted Peter? Hmmm.

I'll have to rewatch the preview, but I definitely got the impression that it was the chubby guy saying "My name's Sylar".

I'll have to watch it again, but I think the chubby dude is HRG.

Maybe Sylar can morph into the image of those he's absorbed? -Sorry if this has been hashed on the boards already..
D.

Sylar was hit with bullets. He could have recovered, but the fact that he doesn't seem to do any hospital time seems to suggest he can heal himself quickly, unnaturally or not.

He forced FBI Audrey to point her own gun to her head when confronted in the basement in an earlier episode. There was no one else in the room but he and her. That's plainly obvious.

The jury's still out on the freeze ability.

The popular theory is he is what Suresh considered "Patient Zero," or the very first case of genetic abnormality he encountered when Papa moved to New York. It seems they probably worked together, this is where Sylar got the names and locations of the other Hereos.

Why he killed Papa (and is killing everyone else) is anyone's guess, but it seems he's got one too many of the superhero genes and I'm thinking this is what's made him insane.

How does Sylar controlling people explain why there's no blood when he's shot at by Matt? That conclusion makes absolutely no sense!

On top of that, the previews were from 6 months ago... plenty of time to lose a little weight before he goes psycho and kills people! Not much time to eat living a killer's life, that's what I'd say!

Also, I think Mr. Kring and his staff are throwing us on a wild goose chase by giving us a list of people who don't play Sylar...

Sean Bean, Zach Quinto, etc...

I think we may actually have been told the "why." Chandra went to NYC to not only find these people, but to tell them who they are... much like Mohinder plans to do. What if until Chandra told him that he had this ability, Sylar was just some normal guy. Remember how Sylar left that creepy message blaming Chandra for "making me this way". We know that Chandra didn't cause the abilities - his software only tells him where these people are. But, he could have giving Sylar the suggestion that he was special - mind over matter.. and Sylar IS (if you're told something long enough, you will believe it. Could Sylar have lived a life where he was told he was a nobody... unimportant... until he believed he was nobody. Then Chandra shows up...)

Sounds good to me Yoshie.

Getting shot from a handgun wouldn't send you flying...

The bullets don't have enough kinetic energy to send you flying backwards. Simply put, to send someone flying backward, the bullets either need to be more massive or traveling MUCH faster, or both.

Well, according to IMDB (the definitive resource for movies and television), Zach Quinto DID play Sylar in "Homecoming".

Plus, here's the comparison (note the ears, eyebrow, eye, and lips):

There was a full frontal of Sylar's face early in the episode. Happen to have a capture of it? Could help... (btw, those two look VERY close!)

I hesitated to even read this thread because the heading implied there would be flaming but I thought it might be relevant. After reading this thread and seeing that the person admitted to being drunk when they wrote this it really makes me not want to respond but since it's easy to clarify, The actor playing Sylar is Zach Quinto, I could clearly see in two of the shots it was indeed him. So regardless of how old The Character of Sylar is, the guy running around tonight that Eden and the Haitian stopped is definitely the actor Zach Quinto. Perhaps he feeds off the energy of his victims and it makes him appear to be a younger man more in his prime, who knows, you are correct there's a lot more to him but he is definitely his own character and not any off the other Heroes that we have been introduced to at this time. And I think that is what people are trying to convey by saying it's Zach Quinto, to stop the Peter is Sylar or Sylar is really Hiro or wwhatever character that people keep trying to speculate about.

Oh the chubby guy in the scene for the following episode was just a chubby guy standing there meeting Sylar that was not Sylar, Sylar was introducing himself to the person, the chubby guys mouth did not move he just stood there with his mouth slightly open looking stupid.

I think the screen capture from the above posts were as close as we could get. But they do look alike...

About the whole "He got shot" or "He used PK to slow the bullets" or "He used this or that to do it" Lets not over think things. The writers have been masterful in setting up complex problems and then solving them with simply answers.

Maybe he wore a bullet proof vest. Simple. No power needed. Stops bullets. If I was going to break into FBI headquarters I might wear protective gear.

my .02
PsyJack

OK EVERYONE I KNOW THAT QUINTO PLAYED THE FREAKING GUY EVERYONE THINKS IS SYLAR.

I just think it's interesting that none of this makes sense if Quinto is Sylar. Also, i'm mentioning the whole 'bleeding' thing is that maybe the dude is dead or something...i mean he hasn't talked or anything.


Also, I watched it several times and it probably is Quinto saying "I'm Sylar" but there are just a lot of questions I don't understand right now.

YES I DO AGREE THAT QUINTO PLAYS THE GUY WHO GETS CAPTURED AT THE END OF Ep. 9, but what the hell happens after Quinto appears for his "5 episodes worth (the episodes he's scheduled to appear in or maybe just the number they have filmed at this point)"

All I was saying is that Quinto maybe isn't the real Sylar but somebody played by Sylar himself. Hell I don't know. Sobering up now.

OMG! In this screen shot of next week's episode it is revealed that Sylar can project future events (kinda like R2D2)!












p.s. just kidding

hahaha.. nice 'shop there buddy. hahahahahahaha.

that's another reason why i don't see why they would be all this hubub about quinto if they already showed a picture of him before that and we pretty much saw his face in episode 9.

Ok no more drive by drunk posting for you mister, lol. maybe that's the reason people are having difficulty understanding what you are writing which is causing the general confusion and an over use of capital letters. This show is already crazy enough without adding alcohol, lol. Get a friend to be the designated poster and post responsibly. j/k have fun and remember to chug some h20 before bed to prevent a hangover in the morning.

Heh, I edited the front page so it makes a little more sense, and a neat little quote that I just found.

The theory that the man-in-the-cap is not Sylar but some kind of controlled minion/automaton does have a couple things going for it:

1. It could explain the confusion over TK / cryokinesis even better than the "freezing with TK" hypothesis. Different cronies, different powers.
2. It could explain the difference between the Paul E. Sylar birth announcement and Zach Quinto's age.
3. It could explain why the writers were willing to let "Sylar" be captured with half a season left to go
4. It could support the statement that "Sylar is not who you think he is"
5. It would explain why the hand seen smashing Chandra's head doesn't look a lot like the cap guy's hand, and why he didn't kill Chandra with TK ... but only if the broken watch is important to the "control" process

I'm not saying I fully buy it, but really, we only have Audrey's and Mr. Bennet's word that the cap guy is Sylar. As theories go, it's on better footing than, say, the "this 11 year old living boy is really a 5 year old dead girl" theory.

The way the promo was edited definitely made it seem like the chubby guy said he was Sylar. It made me sit up straight and say "wtf?" when I saw it because cap and trench-coat Sylar from the last few episodes is definitely not that chubby guy. But it was only on screen for a second, and it could have just been a quick edit that was easily misunderstood, so who knows? We only have seven days to wait to see what actually happens.

Naw, the idea that Paul E. Sylar was the father of the guy we saw last night makes more sense. I just don't feel comfortable with the "Sylar is controlling all these other people" thing, especially when we have yet to really see any signs of this.

I gotta agree that Paul E. Sylar is probably the father that our guy in cap is begging forgiveness from.

I think it is likely that Chandra met with the father regarding "Activating Evolution" and the process brought out an inherent ability in the son, which may have driven the son batty. Son may have killed father in a rage, or maybe feels dad would be dissapointed in how he is activating his evolution.

Brains are the key, since most powers likely take place in the corpus collosum, the bridge between both halves of the brain.

Wow! Thanks for bringing up this for discussion, moheevi! Looks like some pretty fun ideas are being tossed around here!

It wasn't persuasion that held the gun to Audrey's head, it was just telekenisis. We know he can obviously do alot of damage without using his hands, i.e. using his pointer finger to sever the tops of people's heads off. But I also think he has more than one power.

This thread gave me a headache. what the hell were you drinking? Because I never want to drink it.

Im sorry. That has to be the next to worst set of theories I have read on these forums.

Sylar is a TK. Period. We have seen other things that hint that he might be more but as of now the only info we have is he is a tk.

There has been NOTHING to support anything else. Especially the wild theories you posted in this thread.

You might as well believe that there is a magical unicorn as someone suggested on the "death of a hero" thrread on the main forums.

He cannot control people's minds at all...just force their bodies to do whatever he wants them to using TK, not mind powers.

Then why the drawings of crosses which accompanied it?

That "forgive me" scrawling was religious in nature, not a plea to a physical parent.