jragbir
Nov 20 2006, 09:34 PM
I posted this in the official Heroes boards so i thought I'd post here too.
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Did anyone else notice that when Eden refused to make Issac shoot up again to paint, Mr. Bennet showed Eden a series of photographs of sylars victims. ONE OF THEM WAS ISSAC FROM THE FUTURE!?! It was exactly what Hiro saw when he was in the future in New York. How can Bennet have a photo if Issacs head sawed off if it has not happened yet?!
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FROM TODAYS EPISODE
AND

FROM EPISODE 2 WHERE HIRO GOES TO FUTURE NEW YORK
They look exactly the same. What do you all think, they look mighty similar.
Moment
Nov 20 2006, 09:39 PM
I'm confused too. HRG seems to know A LOT more than anyone.
He knew the exact time and location of Claire's death according to Episode 8 when he was trying to explain himself to Isaac.
Randy G.
Nov 20 2006, 09:40 PM
Lol! OOOPS! They used the same dummy.

Oh well, maybe we're not supposed to notice these things. (*wink, wink)
xienocide
Nov 20 2006, 10:53 PM
QUOTE (Randy G. @ Nov 20 2006, 09:40 PM)

Lol! OOOPS! They used the same dummy.

Oh well, maybe we're not supposed to notice these things. (*wink, wink)

This is really weird... good find!
MandaBrook
Nov 20 2006, 11:07 PM
wow...
i wonder what that means...
Great find!
peabodyseven
Nov 20 2006, 11:20 PM
I have a problem with Isaac getting his head slit open... 1) It is a very BAD Isaac duplicate, and 2)Isaac doesn't have a beard (at this time). WAS this guy Isaac, or someone who was in the loft at the time that Sylar was looking for him? I mean look what happened to Jackie...Sylar CAN make a mistake. But it doesn't really explain why HRG has a photo of the supposed "Future" Isaac.
elketerbentzadik
Nov 21 2006, 12:24 AM
I noticed that as well.
I also noticed that the guy who was found dead on Isaac's floor looks
nothing like Isaac.
SukiWatching
Nov 21 2006, 12:43 AM
I know, Isaac is still being kept at HRG's facility, and his loft gets rented out to someone else, but Sylar doesn't know that and kills him, thinking he is Isaac. Yeah, that's what Hiro saw.
And poor Sylar, he eats the guy's brain and goes "Yecch! I got the wrong person again. And this guy tastes a lot worse than that cheerleader did."
Napalm
Nov 21 2006, 12:46 AM
QUOTE (Randy G. @ Nov 20 2006, 09:40 PM)

Lol! OOOPS! They used the same dummy.

Oh well, maybe we're not supposed to notice these things. (*wink, wink)

Perhaps a major goof or something planned. On TV it was only shown briefly. Maybe it is something intended. Only time will tell, right?
IheartMiloV
Nov 21 2006, 12:50 AM
I also noticed that the first picture was of Charlie. I mean, the girl died only yesterday Im assuming, isnt it a little early for him to have her picture in a file?
purple_tangerine
Nov 21 2006, 04:09 AM
Hmm...I wonder. Just a mess up on their part, or...?
elketerbentzadik
Nov 21 2006, 04:11 AM
QUOTE (SukiWatching @ Nov 21 2006, 03:43 AM)

I know, Isaac is still being kept at HRG's facility, and his loft gets rented out to someone else, but Sylar doesn't know that and kills him, thinking he is Isaac. Yeah, that's what Hiro saw.
The body looks an awful lot like Ted to me.
But it could be any random bearded dude I suppose.
Robbierob
Nov 21 2006, 04:25 AM
that pic makes their heads look like tupperware
MADCAT
Nov 21 2006, 05:08 AM
QUOTE (IheartMiloV @ Nov 21 2006, 03:50 AM)

I also noticed that the first picture was of Charlie. I mean, the girl died only yesterday Im assuming, isnt it a little early for him to have her picture in a file?
couldn't HRG have "agents" all over the world looking out for stuff like this? he really only has to say "hey guys look out for people who have the top of their heads chopped off and no brian".
Kathy
Nov 21 2006, 11:44 AM
I thought the same thing "how did he get a picture of Charlie already, it just happened!" I think it even just happened that same day. She was still on the floor in the picture. What, did that first waitress that found her snap a pic off real quick on her camera phone to Bennett?
SLYDER
Nov 21 2006, 11:49 AM
It isn't Issac though. Close (maybe same dummy) but if you look at the blood running down the left side and the shirt you can see it isn't the same.
wishing to be jessica
Nov 21 2006, 11:57 AM
I don't think these are meant to be issac at all. He has picts of what Sylar has done. Charlie isn't his first victim. What about the little girls parents with Matt? To have the FBI on you he's been at this at least a few months. Bets are HRG has contacts in the FBI...
LovelyHue
Nov 21 2006, 12:06 PM
Either a goof or he can time travel somehow too.
Probably goof.
YoShIe
Nov 21 2006, 12:17 PM
Here's a capture of the photo Bennett had of Charlie...

And the second photo, of an as of yet unidentified victim...
YoShIe
Nov 21 2006, 01:46 PM
QUOTE (My Powers Are Yet To Be Reveiled @ Nov 21 2006, 04:46 PM)

maybe hiro altered the future and charlie died way earlier than expected. i mean those candles and her picture like a memorial looks likei its been there for a while and do you really think they would let anyone in the diner after the murder that happened that same day? Peter entered the diner just fine. and the police didnt ask ando about hiro. in fact they didnt ask him anything. maybe thats cause the murder happened weeks ago. Ando just doesnt realize it. He should have asked if Charlie was truly dead or not.
That's an interesting thought. Was there anything on that shrine that might have a date?
DarkHeroJ
Nov 21 2006, 01:46 PM
maybe hiro altered the future and charlie died way earlier than expected. i mean those candles and her picture like a memorial looks likei its been there for a while and do you really think they would let anyone in the diner after the murder that happened that same day? Peter entered the diner just fine. and the police didnt ask ando about hiro. in fact they didnt ask him anything. maybe thats cause the murder happened weeks ago. Ando just doesnt realize it. He should have asked if Charlie was truly dead or not.
I'm the Mann
Nov 21 2006, 01:51 PM
Why whould Hiro go to Isacc's apt & not find Issac. Makes no sense at all... That was supposed to be him before Hiro changed time. He's been doing it all along, It just hasn't been explained yet.
philhos
Nov 21 2006, 01:58 PM
QUOTE (wishing to be jessica @ Nov 21 2006, 02:57 PM)

I don't think these are meant to be issac at all. He has picts of what Sylar has done. Charlie isn't his first victim. What about the little girls parents with Matt?
To have the FBI on you he's been at this at least a few months. Bets are HRG has contacts in the FBI...

Not necessarily. The FBI always get involved when someone goes across state lines.
However, I agree that HRG has to have contacts in the FBI. Unless he really IS working for a governmental agency. Just a more secretive one.
addictedtoheroes
Nov 21 2006, 02:02 PM
i know that we all want to believe that its Isaac so we can speculate the hell out of wat we've learned but its not him. pay close attention to the hair and face
YoShIe
Nov 21 2006, 02:12 PM
QUOTE (addictedtoheroes @ Nov 21 2006, 05:02 PM)

i know that we all want to believe that its Isaac so we can speculate the hell out of wat we've learned but its not him. pay close attention to the hair and face
Or as it's been suggested, the prop guys screwed up.. again.
Kathy
Nov 22 2006, 10:19 AM
Oh, that is a good thought MPAYTBR. I was wondering why the cops weren't wondering where Hiro was myself, since the sheriff made a point of telling them to stay put so he could take their statements.
keyblade_hero
Nov 28 2006, 06:42 PM
about the double death of issac...i dont remember did they acctually say it was issac?
if not maybe it was a buyer that sylar thought was issac and killed or a diff special person and after hiro changed the outcome of what would happen to charlie because he affected her life...she might not have died from sylar but the anerisum.. and i know someone will be like but hrg guy had her pic with the head choped off ...yes befor hiro went back in time when he got back we dont know what he may have changed ...thus... the man's death came sooner..(issac double thing)...
Issac does eventually return to the same studio, because in episode 2, Hiro looks at the artist's table and sees more of the comic book, showing the events of Hiro just about to happen (phone, explosion, teleport). Isaac had to have been there continuing it sometime after all the cheerleader drawings.
catch311
Dec 1 2006, 11:48 AM
I was wondering why the police never said anything about Hiro to Ando. Come to think of it, after Hiro jumped, I don't remember seeing anymore cops. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the Charlie dying earlier scenario is plausable.
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