Sephiroth
Nov 21 2006, 08:54 PM
ok i was hoping this episode would answer the many confusions i have. all we hear is "save the cheerleader, save the world". well how did saving claire save the world? i was hoping it would make sense and that something was gonna happen to destroy the earth, and saving claire at her homecoming game would prevent the earth from being destroyed or something. maybe this hasnt been revealed yet, but if it has someone please explain it to me.
also, when hiro was on the subway and warned peter about this, he would already have to know what was gonna happen. well this whole thing, hiro had nothing to do with it. he was too busy flirting with that waitress. all i want to know is how did it save the world?
Atlas
Nov 21 2006, 10:09 PM
"Save the World" has yet to be revealed. Be patient.
I vote the worst line in the series so far is Peter's: "Did I save the world by saving you?"
elketerbentzadik
Nov 22 2006, 12:54 AM
It's...
Save the cheerleader... Save the world...
Not...
Save the cheerleader and inadvertantly save the world in the process...
They're two separate, but entwined events.
Agent42
Nov 22 2006, 01:42 AM
Yes, saving the world comes a bit later. The first bit of prophecy was to save the cheerleader. Mission accomplished.
Hiro needed Peter to be the one because he knew he wouldn't be there, being six months in the past saving Charlie.
But that doesn't explain Ando and Hiro showing up under a bloody Homecoming banner in one of Isaac's paintings.
carl
Nov 22 2006, 04:53 AM
QUOTE (Sephiroth @ Nov 21 2006, 11:54 PM)

ok i was hoping this episode would answer the many confusions i have. all we hear is "save the cheerleader, save the world". well how did saving claire save the world? i was hoping it would make sense and that something was gonna happen to destroy the earth, and saving claire at her homecoming game would prevent the earth from being destroyed or something. maybe this hasnt been revealed yet, but if it has someone please explain it to me.
also, when hiro was on the subway and warned peter about this, he would already have to know what was gonna happen. well this whole thing, hiro had nothing to do with it. he was too busy flirting with that waitress. all i want to know is how did it save the world?
if they answered all of our questions at once that would spoil all of the fun
QUOTE (Agent42 @ Nov 22 2006, 04:42 AM)

But that doesn't explain Ando and Hiro showing up under a bloody Homecoming banner in one of Isaac's paintings.
if you know the futre you can change it.
MADCAT
Nov 22 2006, 05:04 AM
QUOTE (Agent42 @ Nov 22 2006, 04:42 AM)

Yes, saving the world comes a bit later. The first bit of prophecy was to save the cheerleader. Mission accomplished.
Hiro needed Peter to be the one because he knew he wouldn't be there, being six months in the past saving Charlie.
But that doesn't explain Ando and Hiro showing up under a bloody Homecoming banner in one of Isaac's paintings.
it was said in the show that the paintings were in the wrong order. I think that will mean that Hiro and Ando will still appear under that banner, just not for another show or two, when the show gets back to present time.
Joel 3
Nov 22 2006, 06:21 AM
QUOTE (Sephiroth @ Nov 21 2006, 11:54 PM)

ok i was hoping this episode would answer the many confusions i have. all we hear is "save the cheerleader, save the world". well how did saving claire save the world? i was hoping it would make sense and that something was gonna happen to destroy the earth, and saving claire at her homecoming game would prevent the earth from being destroyed or something. maybe this hasnt been revealed yet, but if it has someone please explain it to me.
also, when hiro was on the subway and warned peter about this, he would already have to know what was gonna happen. well this whole thing, hiro had nothing to do with it. he was too busy flirting with that waitress. all i want to know is how did it save the world?
By saving the cheerleader, the heroes start to come together and discover one another. Once they are together they begin to save the world.
amolion
Nov 22 2006, 06:27 AM
QUOTE (Agent42 @ Nov 22 2006, 09:42 AM)

Hiro needed Peter to be the one because he knew he wouldn't be there, being six months in the past saving Charlie.
how? what? have you any idea what you are talking about?
this has to win the award for the dumbest post ever!
saral6978
Nov 22 2006, 06:33 AM
QUOTE (amolion @ Nov 22 2006, 08:27 AM)

Hiro needed Peter to be the one because he knew he wouldn't be there, being six months in the past saving Charlie.
how? what? have you any idea what you are talking about?
this has to win the award for the dumbest post ever!
You don't have to be rude...this isn't a dumb post at all. It makes a little bit of sense actually...It's a good reason why Hiro might have needed Peter to help with this. Please explain why you think this is a dumb post...
amolion
Nov 22 2006, 06:42 AM
QUOTE (saral6978 @ Nov 22 2006, 02:33 PM)

You don't have to be rude...this isn't a dumb post at all. It makes a little bit of sense actually...It's a good reason why Hiro might have needed Peter to help with this. Please explain why you think this is a dumb post...
i'll make it simple for you.. imagine that it's 2000AD and you just find out that you can travel through time... you decide to go back a year to 1999.. where will you be in a years time... that's right back in 2000.
how can hiro be six months in the past in the present. when he goes back, everybody else goes back six months... and now it's six months later, so it would be six months later for everyone... including hiro.
Kappei Jin
Nov 22 2006, 07:26 AM
I think that the mission was to save Claire from Sylar in order to don't let him to take regeneration power from the cheerleader. Sounds obvious, but with this power, Sylar could be really unstoppable. I don't think that Sylar have this power in a so strong way, we don't know if, when Matt shooted him, he used regeneration, force field or just telekinesis on bullets.
If this theory is wrong, answers have just to come... i agree the temporal explication about saving the cheerleader which says that was useful for meeting some characters.
wishing to be jessica
Nov 22 2006, 07:38 AM
Okay I want to run on a thought line here. In the orginal timeline hiro goes back to save Charlie but something happens and he never makes it to homecoming so there is no one there to same Claire. So in the future (unknown when, could be 1 year from now) Hiro sends himself back to tell Peter to be there and also tell himself that he needs to be there. Maybe also to make him save Charlie too. Ohh that thoughts that are thinking too hard.
djearl81
Nov 22 2006, 12:00 PM
QUOTE (amolion @ Nov 22 2006, 08:42 AM)

i'll make it simple for you.. imagine that it's 2000AD and you just find out that you can travel through time... you decide to go back a year to 1999.. where will you be in a years time... that's right back in 2000.
how can hiro be six months in the past in the present. when he goes back, everybody else goes back six months... and now it's six months later, so it would be six months later for everyone... including hiro.
Hiro has never said that he can travel through time...he has always said that he can "bend space and time." Perhaps it's the same thing, but exact details have been very important in the show so far. Keep in mind that Hiro is still learning...
Tempest
Nov 23 2006, 05:10 PM
Alright this is my personal theory. Radition guy is going to go bomb mode and destroy new york and Claire will be the only one who could get by all the radition to stop him. Since she can heal the radition won't phase her and she'll be forced to take him out. Yeah i know this is alot like X-men 3 but this makes the most sense to me.
cnagy
Nov 23 2006, 06:51 PM
QUOTE (amolion @ Nov 22 2006, 09:27 AM)

how? what? have you any idea what you are talking about?
this has to win the award for the dumbest post ever!
It's not that dumb, the only part that it messes up is the implication of time. Regardless of why he wasn't there (and the question is more of where he was rather than when he was,) Hiro knew he wouldn't be there, and that's why he went back to Peter.
Mercury083
Nov 23 2006, 10:05 PM
QUOTE (cnagy @ Nov 24 2006, 02:51 AM)

It's not that dumb, the only part that it messes up is the implication of time. Regardless of why he wasn't there (and the question is more of where he was rather than when he was,) Hiro knew he wouldn't be there, and that's why he went back to Peter.
Hey why does everyone think the message "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World" is a message for Hiro? Future Hiro had that message for Peter and he wanted Peter to tell his past self where they would meet. Also by going back to Issac's and answering the phone he may have changed the timing of Hiro's journey. He may have driven off before the gambler could stop him, met Charlie at the diner and moved on before she died.
HeroFan
Nov 24 2006, 05:41 PM
QUOTE (Tempest @ Nov 23 2006, 07:10 PM)

Alright this is my personal theory. Radition guy is going to go bomb mode and destroy new york and Claire will be the only one who could get by all the radition to stop him. Since she can heal the radition won't phase her and she'll be forced to take him out. Yeah i know this is alot like X-men 3 but this makes the most sense to me.
I totally agree with you...its my theory as well.
robtom69
Nov 24 2006, 06:35 PM
And Sylar (whomever or whatever he/she is) cant be all powerful if that other girl can just say 'go to sleep' and zzz he's out..
i sure hope this all comes together soon...getting tired of a dozen short clips each show with each character..
sweaterbest
Jan 2 2007, 02:18 AM
quick thought: is it possible that the purpose of "Saving the cheerleader" was for peter to die in the process, thus saving the world by preventing his future explosion? maybe claire got in the way by showing up in the end, allowing him to heal.
has this theory already been discussed? anyways, it is just a thought.
eskimokid
Apr 8 2007, 07:20 AM
As someone has already said, saving the cheerleader isn't going to directly 'save the world'
Obviously, if the cheerleader was not saved then by a chain of events the world might be in danger
So future Hiro knows this, goes back in time and tells Peter to save the cheerleader, and by doing this he changes the chain of events which leads to the earths destuction and possibly saves it!
But which cheerleader was meant to be saved? Claire or jackie? who knows! mwaahahha! I guess we'll find out eventually!
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