Eden's power looked like it staggered him a bit, but how SWEET is that guy?

He probably just erased his own, and HRG's memory as soon as she started to speak, so the command was forgotten, therefore they dont have to do it.

I don't know about him erasing the comand from memory. I think he can void others powers that would be more consistant with what we saw in the bar with Matt.

He did erase the quarterback's memory though..

Yeah, the Haitian is the man. Can't wait to hear him speak if he ever does. I hope we learn why he's following Bennet's orders at some point in the story.

i can't wait until his power is fleshed out, so to speak

exactly what he can and cannot do

could he cancel, say, Ted's powers, or just powers of a telepathic nature?

that's a good point, he didn't cancel out nathan's flight powers but he does shut down the mental stuff...interesting...

The Haitian appears to be selective in his powers. It's not an automatic ability, just like DL can't automatically phase through anything, as both have to activate it.

I did think he couldn't cancel Nathan's powers either until I rewatched it; as we can see, he doesn't appear to have it activated as he walked toward him, as he seemed to be preparing that arm gesture he does, and Nathan escaped before he could initiate it. Could be wrong, but it's the only plausible thing I could think, as I can't see having the ability to fly enables you to evade the power negation ability.

I dont think he had time to react to Nates flight, happened too quick, Then Nate was too far away for the Haitian to do anything

Why do you all think he erases memories? The quarterback kept asking why claire was calling him by his name? If his memory was just errased he would be asking if it was his name (if ALL his memory had been erased) or if it had been erased to a little while ago he would still know his name. The police officer and the radiation guy said they blacked out when the haitian came to him, but they had some memory before and after that. I think when the Haitian "takes everything" and leaves those two marks it someting much more sinister than erasing memories, i think he steals soles and replaces them with diffrent soles. The police officer was a completly diffrent person after he was taken and the quarterback i beleive thought he was a diffrent person. Skylars wife got cancer and people started dying after he got abducted, maybe the haitian put a more violent person into his body. And maybe the police mans wife is an integral part of the plot,a part in which she must be sacrificed for the good of the world. If this is the case maybe the haitian replaced the officers body with a more loving soul that could not sacrific her.

This was one of the questions that I really wanted this episode to show, i.e. why is the Haitian teaming with Mr. Bennet in the first place.

Love his power though, even though it's still not clear what it was.

Just a thought but maybe H.R.G can block powers and the Haitian can only erase memories?

I think his ability goes way beyond footwear swapping.

If that were true then HRG wouldnt be able to leave the haitian alone to "take everything" because he is always leaving the room when the haitian does what he does. The heros coudl just use there powers when he left. Plus when the cop was on the table HRG said this is my friend he has powers to, "he didnt say he himself had powers" Claire has also healed when HRG has been close by

- the quarterback was saying that because he didn't know what his name was
-Matt and Ted couldn't remember the period that they were captive
-Matt just realized that he could use his power to save his marriage (and perhaps both his and Ted's powers were hieghtened?)

I don't understand where you are getting your theory from...perhaps you could explain it better?




I was wondering the same thing

we've seen that Matt could read HRG's mind, but not the Haitian's

Sorry you know I meant souls I type in a hurry

First who is this Sylar, also the radiation guys name is Ted.

HRG wasn't able to block Eden's powers when she told him "not to bother Issac" (paraphrase).

Okay fair enough... Why would HGB care so much about erasing Matt and Ted's memories. Granted we have not had a lot of exposure to Ted, but before Matt's memory was erased being able to find a girl did not seem like something they needed to erase. Additionally what did Nathan know that they wanted gone? Granted there could be a lot of things we dont know which is kind of the point, but there must be something they are doing to them beyond just wiping there memories. Maybe the soul swapping theory is a little fat fetched, but I think there is substance as to why the quarterback did not know his name. Matt and Ted only don't remember the abduction, the quarterback doesn't even remember his own name. That means they have diffrent levels of memory loss, yet HGB said to the Haitian "take EVERYTHING". If they took the same amount from matt and the quarterback how can one remember his name and the other not? P.S thanks for clarifying the names



sorry again I meant Ted's wife died after Ted was abducted

Ha!

First, I agree with you that they are doing more than just taking memory.

Second, I think you answered your own question about the different levels of memory loss. They DID take everything from the quarterback, but not from Ted and Matt.

Third, Nathan may not have known anything that they wanted gone, they may be doing something else. Sort of like how they are using Isaac to paint the future for them, and how they used Eden to get to Dr. Suresh. We really don't know what Mr. Bennet wants with the heroes.

My only point with the "take Everything" was to prove that they are doing more than taking memories, because if the everything was referring to the maximum amount of memory loss, matt and the quarterback would have the same level of memory loss. Mr. Bennet DID tell the Haitian to take everythign from MATT as well as the quarterback. I beleive this means that whatever it is they are taking, they took all of it from Matt and the quarterback, and the memory is just a side effect which is why it can differ. You are correct Nathan probably did not know for sure what they wanted, but he must have known something more than we realize because he flew away from them. He is very concerned with people knowing he can fly and he would not have flown away form ordinary people chasing him and risking exposure, especially since he supposedly didnt know who they were, they could have been important political rivals or papurazzi or something. Nathan must know somethingn more about them than is apparant

I think HRG has some special powers also. I mean the Haitian guy does what he says and so does Eden(Whatever her name is). Reason I say this is because if she is so persuasive and she can get you to do what she wants.. why cant she just get him to do what she wants. Unless her powers only work on other heroes.

HRG is just a government guy. He calls the shots because he has the most connections. He gets the job done.

The Haitian negates Eden's power because he erases the memory of her suggestion from her victim. Without him you can bet she can use her power effectively, but has come to rely on the advice of HRG, of agreeing to work with him. How that came about is anyone's guess...

I think the Haitian's ability goes beyond just erasing memories. I think, as others have said, that he can also simply block powers. His presence with another Hero seems to negate that Hero's particular power. That's why he was with Eden when they took Sylar. I don't think her power of suggestion was enough to disable his powers.

I think Agent 42 is right about the Haitian erasing bennett's memory and his of the command. after all, he did stagger a little bit like it took a lot out of him or something?

Hey man, I still think of you as family... but you'd respect me less if I didn't take that shot!...



Actually, incorrect.

The comment with Matt (the Cop for non super-fans) was: "Go Deep. Then, clean him out." I think the last sentence implies - wipe his memory of the past 2 days.

The phrase with the quarterback was: "Hollow him out. Take everything." This is quite a different phrase than the one above.

Sweet? What did he do?

I missed the episode

Thank you for that I was looking for the quote myself before I saw it here.

I think the Haitian has the ability to erase memories and to also enhance/unlock the powers or potential of the Heroes. Remember when the HRG and Eden had Issac in detox and HRG said that they didn't have time to help him use his powers without the heroin (I am parapharasing big time). Look at how much more powerful Matt's and Ted's powers are after they meet up with the Haitian.

Just my thoughts...

The Haitian is a great character (in my top 5)!
My hope is that in the next episode he is saving Claire.
I have a lot of faith that he will.

Im calling it - the Haitian will be a warm-hearted superHERO. : )






oh yea...
But then theres the whole messy issue of the whole kidnapping people and stealing their memories, haha.

I think the Haitian's power is to dampen or neutralize other people's powers, and controlling certain functions in the brain; for example

memory
being asleep
being awake
probably more, but is mission with HRG is limited to that, so that's what he does.

you ask why does he take orders?
perhaps, he believes in whatever HRG is doing?
maybe HRG saved his life, or something?

what do they want with the heros?
I believe they are placing tracking implants in them, the side effect of which causes headaches.

HRG told Matt they needed to test his resting rate, this suggests that they monitor the life signs of the subjects after release to see if they are under attack by Sylar or for some other purpose.

Or just as part of their mission? he told Issac they had been tracking people with abilities for some time, their mission is probably to ****** and set u pa quick push button way to terminate any threat to the state by people with powers.

this makes sense when we consider Sylar's statement about Suresh being right, "it is in the brain", and the reason he takes the brains, and his ability to acquire powers.

I believe the Haitian's power requires effort, which is while he seemed to sway, or need a few moments to prepare for each subject, but didn't stop Nathan in time.

The Haitian as far as I know has power over the mind. He can do a few things:

1) Erase Memories - I think we all already knew this, it seems to be what he is used for quite a bit.

2) Neutralize Powers: Dr. Suresh mentioned that the heroes powers are controlled through the mind. This is also evident in the fact that Sylar somehow gains powers from other super powered beings by analyzing their brains, and Claire was unable to heal herself until after a stick was removed from her brain. Therefore I think that the Haitian somehow manipulates the part of the brain that is used for powers, and neutralizes it.

What I don't think he can do:

1) Put people to sleep - When Matt was taken, I believe HRG mentioned that he had drugged him (His drink, the bartender, and most people in the bar, were probably part of the organization HRG works for). Also, if the Haitian could put people to sleep, there would have been no need for Eden to do so when the two of them took down Sylar. If The Haitian could put Sylar to sleep AND Neutralize his power, then Eden would not have been needed.

2) Mind control - Again, I don't think he can make anyone do anything. Eden obviously has some sort of suggestion power, but The Haitian neutralizes parts of the brain (Powers, memory). This makes them a very interesting team up.

Anyway, I too, am intrigued by the character, and it will be interesting to see the extent of his powers, as well his history with HRG.

i bet they are all part of an x-files type of group or like MIB type thing but for heroes

I also think that The Haitian is just a well-rounded psychic.

While I dont think he puts people to sleep (that was drugs usuallly, and Eden vs Sylar), I do think he has several other powers common to comic book mental heroes and villains. He can erase memories in full or in part. He can erect mental barriers against other mind-altering powers, and he can use it to protect others as well (as evidenced by his concentration and sweating when Eden tried to control HRG). Thats about the only stuff that seems certain to me so far.

He MAY also steal memories when he wipes them, and it is possible he could steal memories without wiping them, but that is conjecture based on a likely ability that would be tied with the memory removal.

I dont think we've seen him do direct mind control or direct telepathy, but its possible he can. It is also possible he cant. Some comic book psychics have a laundry list of mental powers and yet still have gaps where they dont do one or two of the common ones that other psychics do.

As for the "Take it all" comment or whatever, I think that was more of a "take his life away from him" comment, not a "lets steal his soul" comment.

I also think that for the most part, HRG and company are capturing mutants, studying them, taking samples, possibly doing some minor surgery to give them a tracking implant or the like, and then setting them back into the wild after erasing memories of the abduction. Capture, Sample, Tag, Release. They may have other motives but that seems to be what is happening (in addition to other possibilities). I also think its possible they try to recruit the extremely useful ones. I mean, a guy who can fly? Let that dude go. Plus he is famous. A cop who is a telepath? Maybe ... he struggled a bit much, probably too risky, him being law abiding and all. If they had a dude who breathes fire, they'd probably let him go. A chick that controls minds and a dude that wipes memories? RECRUIT those guys. A guy that paints the future? RECRUIT him too. Other powers .. Capture. Sample. Tag. Release.

Lewis

First post... hello everyone.

I think the Haitian's power is purely telepathic. It's not like the kid in X-Men where mutations simply don't exist around him. It appears that the powers and genetic mutation occur in the brain [as indicated by Sylar]. So if the Haitian can manipulate people's brain functions, he can basically do whatever he wants with them given the opportunity... make them fall asleep, render their power inaffective, erase memories.

Implant memories? I want to see that.

Nathan Petrelli was able to get away because they weren't ready for what he was going to do [it's possible they didn't even know what his power was, only that he was special]. . Before the Haitian had a chance to switch him off, he was miles away.

We've also seen that that Haitian's power isn't perfect, as evidenced by Parkman's reading of Dr. Bennet's mind while the Haitian was present.

My thoughts, anyway. Nice site and nice discussions.

The Haitian is to HRG

as Jessica is to Niki.

He's HRG's shadow, who can stretch very far from him because he has been working on his power for long time. Explains how he comes out of thin air from behind HRG all the time. And, even if this is not it - HRG does have a power- remember he tells Eden he knows what she's going through because he's been there too?

Precisely how I've read it.
I was surprised to encounter so much controversy as to his abilities, really.