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Cy101
If his watch broke when he killed Chandra, why didnt he fix it? He is after all a watch maker. When he was at the diner right before killing Charlie, it was still broken.

I think he's getting to busy as a Hero killer and needs to fix his watch. Not like it would be hard for him.



But then again, maybe it wasn't actually Sylar that killed Chandra in the cab.
Lol, just kidding of course.
Atlas
Can anyone get a screen capture of the broken watches in past episodes to see if the word Sylar was staring us in the face the whole time?
Picklehead
I think he wears the broken watch as a reminder he is not a watch repairman any longer and it symbolizes his rebirth.
bcg4duke
Gabriel's no longer a watch repairman. He's a hero repairman.

Breaking the watch and not repairing it was symbolic of his transformation to his new identity.
Picklehead
QUOTE (bcg4duke @ Nov 28 2006, 06:51 AM) *
Gabriel's no longer a watch repairman. He's a hero repairman.

Breaking the watch and not repairing it was symbolic of his transformation to his new identity.


beat ya by 1 minute to that answer LOL
MandaBrook
I don't have a screen cap for it, but Sylar was on the watch face the whole time...
check the forum for last week's episode for a screen cap.

what i don't know... is Sylar a real watch company?

also.. what did he say about it being special to him... working on it for several years... the outside being new, the inside being really old.. (i wont be able to rewatch until it's up on the NBC site.. SOOO annoying!) anyone know what he said about it? i assume it's important..
Shade Jinx
I think Sylar's watch is the metaphor for Sylar himself.

When we first meet Gabriel, he's repairing an old watch with new parts. It was broken and he fixed it with parts that were not in the original.

In order to make my idea make sense, then the idea that Sylar can troubleshoot brains like watches has to apply. He finds and takes the part of the brain that corresponds to the mutant's powers and fixes his own brain with those parts. (How? Probably part two of his power. That's also was proposed by someone else, since I'm not suggesting he's a neurosurgeon)

Now Sylar's watch is cracked and stuck at one time. This indicates that Sylar himself is indeed cracked and stuck in this new persona/life he has created for himself.
Cy101
Sylar is a real watch company, and I still think hes just a lazy bum that won't take the time out of his busy murder schedule.
IveSeenProof
QUOTE (Atlas @ Nov 28 2006, 01:43 AM) *
Can anyone get a screen capture of the broken watches in past episodes to see if the word Sylar was staring us in the face the whole time?

Yeah that would be pretty cool.

QUOTE (Cy101 @ Nov 28 2006, 02:04 AM) *
Sylar is a real watch company, and I still think hes just a lazy bum that won't take the time out of his busy murder schedule.

Uh oh, hope he doesn't kill somebody with a shard of broken glass from the watch. I smell another lawsuit from another big business loser, HAHAHAHAHA! Sike!

QUOTE (Shade Jinx @ Nov 28 2006, 02:03 AM) *
I think Sylar's watch is the metaphor for Sylar himself.

When we first meet Gabriel, he's repairing an old watch with new parts. It was broken and he fixed it with parts that were not in the original.

In order to make my idea make sense, then the idea that Sylar can troubleshoot brains like watches has to apply. He finds and takes the part of the brain that corresponds to the mutant's powers and fixes his own brain with those parts. (How? Probably part two of his power. That's also was proposed by someone else, since I'm not suggesting he's a neurosurgeon)

Now Sylar's watch is cracked and stuck at one time. This indicates that Sylar himself is indeed cracked and stuck in this new persona/life he has created for himself.

this I agree with, he is no longer that guy. He is "Sylar" now. A nobody who couldn't take being a nobody, notice how bent out of shape he was over the whole thing when he didn't get "his answers" quick enough? What a freakin wuss!
Anyway, yeah, he is no longer a "watchmaker" but a "wackjob"!
besides he doesn't need a timepeiece if he's floating around time like Hiro. Heh heh, snort that one up yer nostrils for a lil bit.
Heh heh heh!
The Hand of Thanos
Wouldn't it be totally twisted if he didn't need his watch because he can bend time and space. Therefore time on his watch wouldn't matter to him!

How would he get this power of bending time and space you ask? He scalped himself "A Hiro".
bootymac
QUOTE (Picklehead @ Nov 27 2006, 10:50 PM) *
I think he wears the broken watch as a reminder he is not a watch repairman any longer and it symbolizes his rebirth.


Great idea! I love it biggrin.gif
MandaBrook
QUOTE (Cy101 @ Nov 28 2006, 02:04 AM) *
Sylar is a real watch company, and I still think hes just a lazy bum that won't take the time out of his busy murder schedule.


OK, so I just spent waaaay too long searching the net for a watch brand "sylar" and have come up with zero. if this is a real watch brand, can you point me in a direction of some kind to find some info on it? what makes you think it's real?
MandaBrook
Anyone know if it's real?!

I just watched the episode again... he said that the parts are german, 1917 - he's been working on it for several years.

is there (was there) a watch company named sylar?
Cy101
QUOTE (MandaBrook @ Nov 28 2006, 09:00 AM) *
Anyone know if it's real?!

I just watched the episode again... he said that the parts are german, 1917 - he's been working on it for several years.

is there (was there) a watch company named sylar?


Well, while a friend of mine and I were watching this episode, durring the first commercial break after you see Gabrial he said that his favorite brand of watch was Sylar as a joke because it is a real brand.
Stufsocker
Sylar, like Chandra's watch, clearly has a screw loose. But it's true... it's always the quiet ones you least suspect.

This still hasn't answered the question of what's going on with the brins and how he takes on the powers of the people he's killed. Can he see their genetic differences or neuropathic connections and then shape his own brain and genes to replicate their powers? So confuzzled.

It was, however, a bit lame that Chandra would be all "you have no powers and therefor suck. Goodbye" when he wasn't getting immediate results. I would also like to point out that the people who said we'd be getting information on how people got their powers is just a little bogus. We didn't see *how* but *when.* Also, emotions definitely play a role in power activation. I'm looking forward to hearing the explanation of that. Advanced fight or flight making a super memory? Doesn't seem logical.
MandaBrook
QUOTE (Cy101 @ Nov 28 2006, 11:09 AM) *
Well, while a friend of mine and I were watching this episode, durring the first commercial break after you see Gabrial he said that his favorite brand of watch was Sylar as a joke because it is a real brand.


wait... who was saying that it's a real brand? your friend? someone in a commercial? Gabe? I'm confused...
I just couldn't find ANYTHING about a Sylar brand... so if you have any info, please send it my way!
Surge
QUOTE (Stufsocker @ Nov 28 2006, 11:23 AM) *
It was, however, a bit lame that Chandra would be all "you have no powers and therefor suck. Goodbye" when he wasn't getting immediate results.


Maybe Chandra saw the immediate evil very clear and he told him he didn't have powers to try and disuede Gabriel from using them? I'd run out the door if the dude sitting next to me was evil. biggrin.gif

:shrugs:
mohinderfan
I think Sylar doesn't fix his watch because fixing watches is a representation of his former life, Gabriel Gray, he now has a new identity and purpose in life (as he said so himself to chandra).
Pngwn
QUOTE (Stufsocker @ Nov 28 2006, 11:23 AM) *
It was, however, a bit lame that Chandra would be all "you have no powers and therefor suck. Goodbye" when he wasn't getting immediate results. I would also like to point out that the people who said we'd be getting information on how people got their powers is just a little bogus.


I think Chandra DID recognize something in him, but that it frightened him. When Gabe was hooked up to the computer, and he and Chandra were talking, he started talking about the evolutionary quote from Chandra's book. The more he talked about spiders eating their young, etc, the crazier the lines on the computer got, and the more afraid Chandra looked. I think he realized that all though the people on his list had potential "powers", that not all of them were beneficial powers. So, he turned Gabe loose, hoping to avoid the potentially violent outcome if Gabe's powers were fully revealed.


QUOTE (Surge @ Nov 28 2006, 12:05 PM) *
Maybe Chandra saw the immediate evil very clear and he told him he didn't have powers to try and disuede Gabriel from using them? I'd run out the door if the dude sitting next to me was evil. biggrin.gif

:shrugs:



That's what I'm thinking too. He had a look of realization on his face when Gabe was talking. I think he honestly didn't want to unlock the door that was holding all of that violence and hostility back.
kitty
it symbolizes something.
HeroProfiler
QUOTE (Stufsocker @ Nov 28 2006, 11:23 AM) *
Sylar, like Chandra's watch, clearly has a screw loose. But it's true... it's always the quiet ones you least suspect.

This still hasn't answered the question of what's going on with the brins and how he takes on the powers of the people he's killed. Can he see their genetic differences or neuropathic connections and then shape his own brain and genes to replicate their powers? So confuzzled.


yeah I don't exactly get what Sylar's powers are either. So we know when he killed Brian he absorbed his abilities and did demonstrate that to Chandra. But how did he know Brian was "broken" (there was a close shot of Sylar's eyes through his watchmaker's glasses). is there anything to that?

and the teaser for next week's episode said Sylar was getting stronger. wonder how many people he's killed already.
Nando
Ok, now that we know he was not born with a "Sylar" surname, was the whole Paul Sylar birth announcement a Red Herring or an IFU by producers?
Bradthebold
QUOTE (Atlas @ Nov 28 2006, 12:43 AM) *
Can anyone get a screen capture of the broken watches in past episodes to see if the word Sylar was staring us in the face the whole time?


They are here: http://heroeswiki.com/Sylar%27s_watch

The hour hand, and a crack in the crystal cover the brand.
Merman
I agree that Chandra could have "dismissed" Gabriel in the middle of the EEG (or whassat you call a brain test?) after noticing a significant change in the readings (the zigzag lines) on the computer screen when Gabriel started talking about the "Evolution Imperative", about "sea turtles dying at the exact beach they were born" etc and that "spiders eat their young, they don't want to, they have to"...

Perhaps the readings confirmed that Gabriel DID have a power but it is NOT GOOD, and from Chandra's facial expressions, it seems he sort of panicked or changed his mind...

I also noted Gabriel seemed to look at Brian Davies with his "watchmaker lenses" after the latter displayed his TK power, and derived something about being "broken" and he "can fix it, it's an Evolutionary Imperative"...

After striking Brian in the back of his head, Gabriel then put on his watchmaker glasses and moved towards the body, seemingly to examine...

Pretty significant stuff to revisit again, methinks...
brian4xp
QUOTE (Nando @ Nov 28 2006, 01:26 PM) *
Ok, now that we know he was not born with a "Sylar" surname, was the whole Paul Sylar birth announcement a Red Herring or an IFU by producers?


Two questions:

1. Do we have an answer to this one yet. Is there a connection with Paul Sylar and Gabriel "Sylar"?

2. Is/was Sylar a real watch company? (I've Googled it but have found no confirmation)
kagema
QUOTE (brian4xp @ Jan 5 2007, 06:07 AM) *
Two questions:

1. Do we have an answer to this one yet. Is there a connection with Paul Sylar and Gabriel "Sylar"?

2. Is/was Sylar a real watch company? (I've Googled it but have found no confirmation)

1. Most likely this a change in the character design that happened between the production of the pilot and of the show proper (ie. originally Sylar wasn't intended to be an assumed name). Incidentally, Paul Sylar would be significantly older than Sylar (in his mid fourties).

2. I think the original comment meant that it was a real watch company in the Heroes universe, not the real world. Just a guess though.
jacobsinger
QUOTE (Cy101 @ Nov 27 2006, 11:04 PM) *
Sylar is a real watch company, and I still think hes just a lazy bum that won't take the time out of his busy murder schedule.



Please don't beleive this garbage, Sylar is not a watch brand. The watch in the show is a Hamilton Khaki. look it up!
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