lehcarm
Nov 28 2006, 07:18 AM
After watching the scenes with Chandra and Gabriel tonight, I was really confused as to why Gabriel/Sylar would kill Chandra. We know that Gabriel/Sylar has a temper, but is he enough of a hot head to kill the man who helped to show him his powers? I might be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure in Mohinder's dream of his fathers death, it was Gabriel/Sylar that did the murder, right?
steve2112
Nov 28 2006, 07:22 AM
QUOTE (lehcarm @ Nov 28 2006, 10:18 AM)

After watching the scenes with Chandra and Gabriel tonight, I was really confused as to why Gabriel/Sylar would kill Chandra. We know that Gabriel/Sylar has a temper, but is he enough of a hot head to kill the man who helped to show him his powers? I might be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure in Mohinder's dream of his fathers death, it was Gabriel/Sylar that did the murder, right?
Chandra looked kind of freaked out when Sylar went on his little mission thing at the end. And I'm sure that later Chandra learns that Sylar did indeed kill that TK guy and steal his powers. Sylar seemed to look up to Chandra and when Chandra rejected him he killed him. But that's just a guess. Who really knows or if we'll see any of it.
It's just a shame that Chandra makes this amazing discovery and his first time out he draws Gabriel Gray (aka Sylar)...
But also remember when Gabe was with the TK guy and the TK guy moved that mug.. Sylar was amazed but the TK guy didn't want the power. I really didn't think that Gabe was going to kill him. He really seemed like he wanted to help. Something snapped because when TK said he wanted it to go away, Sylar went on about him being broken and he could fix it.. And what about that Evolutionary imperitive thing he said?
All very interesting. I'll be thinking about it all week..
Chi Rombuu
Nov 28 2006, 07:42 AM
When Brian Davis moved the shot glass on the table...i kinda laughed at how obvious that prop glass and table was. You can see the metal plate on the bottom of the glass and the different surface contour that the cup was sliding on. ooooh spooky powers with magnets. Just kidding...this show kicks mucho ******
pestilenceawaits
Nov 28 2006, 07:44 AM
I think Chandra figures out what Sylar has been doing and confronts him about it that is why he gets offed.
Who is John Gault
Nov 28 2006, 03:52 PM
QUOTE (lehcarm @ Nov 28 2006, 10:18 AM)

After watching the scenes with Chandra and Gabriel tonight, I was really confused as to why Gabriel/Sylar would kill Chandra. We know that Gabriel/Sylar has a temper, but is he enough of a hot head to kill the man who helped to show him his powers? I might be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure in Mohinder's dream of his fathers death, it was Gabriel/Sylar that did the murder, right?
Yes Sylar killed him, cracked his watch in the process, But....
Remember We Know Chandras 1st child had powers. We dont know who else in the family had tpowers or who passed them on.
Char
Nov 28 2006, 04:05 PM
I always assumed it was Mr. Bennet or one of his cronies that did killed him and not Sylar. After all in the first episode he was after Mohinder, wasn't he? Also, as far as we know his head was still in one piece and Sylar likes to kill his victums by cutting it up.
dand
Nov 28 2006, 03:44 PM
remeber the answeing machine . chandra says i no longer wish to help u sylar and i beleaive tahts what made sylar snap
herospunk90
Nov 28 2006, 03:47 PM
Sylar gets ubsessed with takeing peoples powers. He finds out the Suresh had a power and he wants it or he is just ****** that Suresh contacted him in the first pplace because it changed his life.
Who is John Gault
Nov 28 2006, 04:20 PM
QUOTE (Char @ Nov 28 2006, 07:05 PM)

I always assumed it was Mr. Bennet or one of his cronies that did killed him and not Sylar. After all in the first episode he was after Mohinder, wasn't he? Also, as far as we know his head was still in one piece and Sylar likes to kill his victums by cutting it up.
Mohinder sees his fathers death in the vision aided by the BOY. We see Sylars watch gets smached agenst the wondow glass. The same cracked watch can be seen on sylars wrist when he doing his POWER POINT PRESENTATION on some read shirt hero in another sene.
Grisan
Nov 28 2006, 04:38 PM
QUOTE (Char @ Nov 29 2006, 01:05 AM)

I always assumed it was Mr. Bennet or one of his cronies that did killed him and not Sylar. After all in the first episode he was after Mohinder, wasn't he? Also, as far as we know his head was still in one piece and Sylar likes to kill his victums by cutting it up.
It is pretty obvious now that HRG is not as evil as hinted earlier in the show. He was in the finding-people-with-special-abilties-business long before Chandra and just wanted to keep an eye on his competition. It makes sense that he and his organisation identify and monitor people with special abilties and sometimes even recruit them. We still don't know the purpose of this monitoring but it is obviously important so it makes sense that he also monitors chandras action because he might interfere with his organisation (and he did in creating sylar the serial killer). This is also true for Mohinder because he was likely to continue his fathers work. After Chandra was killed HRG tried to collect all of his research and spied on Mohinder to see if he knowed something or continued his fathers work. But there was never a real reason to kill chandra.
Who is John Gault
Nov 28 2006, 04:56 PM
QUOTE (Grisan @ Nov 28 2006, 07:38 PM)

It is pretty obvious now that HRG is not as evil as hinted earlier in the show. He was in the finding-people-with-special-abilties-business long before Chandra and just wanted to keep an eye on his competition. It makes sense that he and his organisation identify and monitor people with special abilties and sometimes even recruit them. We still don't know the purpose of this monitoring but it is obviously important so it makes sense that he also monitors chandras action because he might interfere with his organisation (and he did in creating sylar the serial killer). This is also true for Mohinder because he was likely to continue his fathers work. After Chandra was killed HRG tried to collect all of his research and spied on Mohinder to see if he knowed something or continued his fathers work. But there was never a real reason to kill chandra.
And his Motivation to get his Daughters name off that list!
elketerbentzadik
Nov 28 2006, 04:57 PM
Chandra didn't show Sylar he had powers.
Chandra showed Gabriel how the powers are connected to the soul and to the brain.
This gave Gabriel the knowledge he needed to gain power.
But he can only do it by murdering others.
He was clearly already mentally unbalanced, but this definitely drives him even further over the edge.
We know from the Sylar tape that he developes an addiction ( which he calls "the hunger" ) to something related to murdering these people and stealing their power.
So he basically goes from being a slightly crazy guy who hates his life and wishes he could be something better or more powerful, to being a completely insane murderer addicted to stealing the brains/souls/powers of others.
Chandra essentially turned him into what he is.
He didn't naturally evolve into it.
He "jumpstarted" his evolution thanks to knowledge he gained from Chandra.
I don't think Chandra new what he was doing.
He didn't know that a normal person could do what Sylar is doing or that Sylar, though he wasn't a super, wasn't necessarily "normal" either.
And I'm sure that once Chandra found out what was really going on that he had no interest in assisting Sylar in his murder spree or with his dellusions of granduer.
Still, Sylar blames Chandra for giving him the knowledge he needed to turn himself into a monster.
I'm sure Sylar also wanted to silence the one person who knew about him, who knew what he was and was capable of identifying or stopping him.
gottabenuts
Nov 28 2006, 06:15 PM
In my humble opinion, it seems that HRG's method is much more controlled and effective than Chandra's. HRG seems to take the people and do a little research first which doesn't seem to lend itself to the same kind of tirade that Sylar went on as a result of his encounters with Chandra. No wonder HRG wants his daughter's name off that list. Chandra has far from a controlled environment for the bombshells he's dropped.
amolion
Nov 29 2006, 07:46 AM
sylar killed papa smurf because he knew who gabriel grey was.
hrg knew about chandra's research, he could easily have found out who sylar was if he hadn't been killed.
Surge
Nov 29 2006, 07:09 AM
QUOTE (gottabenuts @ Nov 28 2006, 09:15 PM)

Chandra has far from a controlled environment for the bombshells he's dropped.
I agree. Claire is a bombshell!
NSpicer
Nov 29 2006, 07:21 AM
QUOTE
After watching the scenes with Chandra and Gabriel tonight, I was really confused as to why Gabriel/Sylar would kill Chandra.
I'm not confused at all.
Without Chandra's help Sylar would never have known how to locate Brian Davis, the TK guy. And as a result, Sylar would never have gained the TK power. His return to Chandra's office and demonstration of his newfound power was to get back into Chandra's good graces...so he will help Sylar find more of these heroes. Of course, Sylar wants to find them so he can "evolve" even further...by claiming their powers for himself.
Eventually, Chandra will realize that the potential heroes he's trying to locate are all being murdered...with their heads cut open. He's smart enough to put two-and-two together and he'll realize Sylar is the serial killer...and that he's using Chandra. That's why the answering machine eventually contains the conversation where he rebuffs Sylar.
Ultimately, Sylar will also realize that Chandra knows what he's been doing...and what his ultimate goal is. And, because Chandra is the only one who can warn the police or these other potential heroes about him...he has to kill Chandra. So, it's simple psychotic logic at work in Sylar's mind.
That's all,
--Neil
MADCAT
Nov 29 2006, 07:43 AM
I think Sylar killed the Papa because he was found out. Chandra found out that he was being used by Sylar to find the other supers. once Sylar devloped his powers more he was able to find other supers on his own and when Chandra confronted him Sylar killed him. Sylar's map was moer detailed than Chandra's and I think this happened after Chandra's death.
vexingmodstwo
Nov 29 2006, 07:46 AM
QUOTE (NSpicer @ Nov 29 2006, 10:21 AM)

I'm not confused at all.
Without Chandra's help Sylar would never have known how to locate Brian Davis, the TK guy. And as a result, Sylar would never have gained the TK power. His return to Chandra's office and demonstration of his newfound power was to get back into Chandra's good graces...so he will help Sylar find more of these heroes. Of course, Sylar wants to find them so he can "evolve" even further...by claiming their powers for himself.
Eventually, Chandra will realize that the potential heroes he's trying to locate are all being murdered...with their heads cut open. He's smart enough to put two-and-two together and he'll realize Sylar is the serial killer...and that he's using Chandra. That's why the answering machine eventually contains the conversation where he rebuffs Sylar.
Ultimately, Sylar will also realize that Chandra knows what he's been doing...and what his ultimate goal is. And, because Chandra is the only one who can warn the police or these other potential heroes about him...he has to kill Chandra. So, it's simple psychotic logic at work in Sylar's mind.
That's all,
--Neil
I'm going with this one!
I likey.
SoleX
Nov 29 2006, 08:34 AM
Sylar killed Chandra cause he didn't want to pay the high priced taxi fare.
I think he saw that Chandra was "broken".
Yorick
Nov 29 2006, 02:58 PM
QUOTE (SoleX @ Nov 29 2006, 11:34 AM)

I think he saw that Chandra was "broken".
How do you mean that Chandra is broken?
I don't think Chandra has any kind of powers at all. With everything he's seen and experienced and researched, I think he'd have an idea of how to tap into them.
I think it would be pretty lame if Chandra, Mohinder, Ando, or HRG are found to have powers. I'm pretty happy with the idea that not everyone has to have a superpower to be a main character.
Domni
Nov 29 2006, 04:21 PM
How do you mean that Chandra is broken?
Hmm..maybe it refers to him being obssessed with his research and deceased daughter's genetic mutations? I wonder what her mutation was?
Ergo Nusquam
Nov 29 2006, 05:37 PM
I wonder exactly what ability Sylar had before he found a way to take other's abilities? Is it simply that he can figure how things work so much so that he was able to take one's power?
If he confronted Peter, would all of his abilities then be temporarily available to him?
The Alternative One
Nov 30 2006, 07:23 PM
QUOTE (lehcarm @ Nov 28 2006, 09:18 AM)

After watching the scenes with Chandra and Gabriel tonight, I was really confused as to why Gabriel/Sylar would kill Chandra. We know that Gabriel/Sylar has a temper, but is he enough of a hot head to kill the man who helped to show him his powers? I might be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure in Mohinder's dream of his fathers death, it was Gabriel/Sylar that did the murder, right?
There is obviously something missing from the equation since there has been no major reveal that Sylar and Chandra had a falling out or argument. But, I would venture to guess that Suresh found out that Sylar was murdering Heroes and that he was killed because he was planning to do something about it. (just a guess though.)
The_Appointed
Nov 30 2006, 09:36 PM
Ok, I'm new here and am watching and loving the show - I know Sylar is killing heroes and removing their brains but does anyone here have an hypothesis as to why he removes the brain and what he does with it? How does he gain the powers of others with their brains?
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