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Hiro Time Master
What if the Haitian tries to erase Sylar's memory and Charlie's power somehow counteracts it?
Just a theory! cool.gif
Kungfuyu
Yeah, I had a topic on this too! It would be so LOGICAL for Charlie's power to actually have a purpose in the show besides learning Japanese. Sylar using Charlie's power would do justice to her untimely (yet, inevitable) death.
IbPhoenix
That is an intresting theory. Here is another one if the Haitian wipes out Sylar's mind will he remember that he has all the powers that he has?
McRofl
well, concidering that some of his abilitys are involontary, like tk. how whould u not know that u had tk, ur just siting in your room or something and you want to shut the door, but you are to lazy to get up, so u just think it and BAM! shut.
HeroAmI
QUOTE (McRofl @ Jan 11 2007, 10:07 AM) *
well, concidering that some of his abilitys are involontary, like tk. how whould u not know that u had tk, ur just siting in your room or something and you want to shut the door, but you are to lazy to get up, so u just think it and BAM! shut.




Yea, I thought about this with Claire too...I mean if the Haitian had erased her memory, she would just notice she had powers the next time she cut herself or got hurt...
iamme
I don't think Sylar took her power though. She had a bloodclot remember? It could have been harder to see how she "ticked". And maybe if he had taken the power he'd have a bloodclot. It's one of the things mention when Mohinder is in India - that the powers have been related to genetics mutations causing things such as tumors.

Anyway he didn't take he brain, so...
muhadeeb
QUOTE (iamme @ Jan 11 2007, 06:06 PM) *
I don't think Sylar took her power though. She had a bloodclot remember? It could have been harder to see how she "ticked". And maybe if he had taken the power he'd have a bloodclot. It's one of the things mention when Mohinder is in India - that the powers have been related to genetics mutations causing things such as tumors.

Anyway he didn't take he brain, so...

Besides HRG commented that He (Sylar) was all messed up with all of those powers he absorbed from the others, and having his DNA corrupted.



I was wondering if Hiro and Peter get together and somehow both bent time. Would Peter go somewhere else ? Or even Peter could get lost in time and not get back to Real Time.
Just a thought. ( a writers imagination) wink.gif
sucky_moto
it's still a mystery how sylar takes their abilities in the first place. we know he's takin them, but the science behind it, how he does it. i hope the writers have an explation for this LOL what does he do, does sylar like... see how the gene mutates in their brain possibly, and like.. wouldn't he have to open his brain to make his DNA genes mutate as well(too far-fetched). or does he just take a sample of their blood, and drink it, or absorb itsomehow, and his body naturally mutates on the gene giving him their power or something
Hiro Time Master
Yes it is a mystery. Some say Sylar eats the brains but Sylar is too good and too smart for that.
sucky_moto
also, even if sylar did have charlie's power, let's just say out of the possibility he did, and let's say the haitian could wipe his memories. didn't HRG just tell the haitian to only wipe memories of claire? the fact that he focused on claire only was a selective action. if HRG wanted the haitian to wipe everything, wouldn't he of just said "clean him out, leave nothing" as we've seen him say in past cases with the haitian. if that's true, then HRG wants him to remember he has abilities, but why would he want to do that? does HRG want to use him for something? that'll be too risky wouldn't it? wats he doin
amolion
it doesn't matter if sylar has charlie's memory.. if the Haitian wipes his memory... it's wiped. just because someone can remember things faster and remember a lot more than normal... does not mean that they are immune to amnesia.
aptman
QUOTE (amolion @ Jan 15 2007, 03:53 AM) *
it doesn't matter if sylar has charlie's memory.. if the Haitian wipes his memory... it's wiped. just because someone can remember things faster and remember a lot more than normal... does not mean that they are immune to amnesia.


unless her ability to "retain" information would allow Sylar to retain the memories even through the Haitian's mind-wiping attempt. We aren't really sure how her mind worked to get all of that information in the first place.
Nervous Nerd
QUOTE (muhadeeb @ Jan 12 2007, 07:36 PM) *
I was wondering if Hiro and Peter get together and somehow both bent time. Would Peter go somewhere else ? Or even Peter could get lost in time and not get back to Real Time.
Just a thought. ( a writers imagination) wink.gif

We may have already seen this when Peter meets "Future Hiro" on the subway and both can move in frozen time. But it's also possible Hiro's powers will develop to allow certain people to remain unaffected by his time stops.
dcg
I think it is safe to assume that Charlie was being tracked by HRG (He got her murder photo too quick unless he had tested her) I think it is evidenced that she did not remember Hiro from meeting her on her birthday or that she had a supermemory.

Her words to Hiro when he was in the Diner with Ando was something like...

(Japaneese book) I got it for my birthday but just picked it up a week ago.
and
Yeah, I just started remembering things

(not direct quotes but again, something like this)

If her memories were removed by the Haitian then it is no wonder that she didn't remember Hiro from her birthday or that he had given her the Japaneese phrase book, learned Japaneese, etc.

If her memories were not removed by the Haitian then Time Travel issues need to be addressed and discrepencies with the writing of the show. The easiest explanation is usually the right one (but not always)
Hiro Time Master
Hiro will probably kill Sylar once his powers develop. I would love to see that battle! They are my two favorite people on Heroes. cool.gif
englewood
QUOTE (dcg @ Jan 15 2007, 08:20 PM) *
I think it is safe to assume that Charlie was being tracked by HRG (He got her murder photo too quick unless he had tested her) I think it is evidenced that she did not remember Hiro from meeting her on her birthday or that she had a supermemory.

Her words to Hiro when he was in the Diner with Ando was something like...

(Japaneese book) I got it for my birthday but just picked it up a week ago.
and
Yeah, I just started remembering things

(not direct quotes but again, something like this)

If her memories were removed by the Haitian then it is no wonder that she didn't remember Hiro from her birthday or that he had given her the Japaneese phrase book, learned Japaneese, etc.

If her memories were not removed by the Haitian then Time Travel issues need to be addressed and discrepencies with the writing of the show. The easiest explanation is usually the right one (but not always)


the time travel on Heroes is similar to Back to the Future...
same rules
sucky_moto
QUOTE (dcg @ Jan 16 2007, 02:20 PM) *
I think it is safe to assume that Charlie was being tracked by HRG (He got her murder photo too quick unless he had tested her) I think it is evidenced that she did not remember Hiro from meeting her on her birthday or that she had a supermemory.

Her words to Hiro when he was in the Diner with Ando was something like...

(Japaneese book) I got it for my birthday but just picked it up a week ago.
and
Yeah, I just started remembering things

(not direct quotes but again, something like this)

If her memories were removed by the Haitian then it is no wonder that she didn't remember Hiro from her birthday or that he had given her the Japaneese phrase book, learned Japaneese, etc.

If her memories were not removed by the Haitian then Time Travel issues need to be addressed and discrepencies with the writing of the show. The easiest explanation is usually the right one (but not always)

I agree. personally i do believe HRG had been tracking charlie for some time, before her death of course. it's possible he may have got the haitian to mind-wipe her. but the picture is not evident enough. it's possible HRG never knew charlie, and heard of a death within texas that matched sylar's M.O. - head chopped off & brain gone. straight away HRG would of became suspicious of this, and possibly requested a photo on demand from an unknown source to see if the killing matched sylar's M.O. looking at the photo he would of known it was sylar without a doubt. so that could be another reason why he had the photo. but as to why charlie didn't remember hiro, makes you wonder if HRG was tracking charlie in the 1st place. i mean you don't have to have a mega-memory to remember someone predicting the future, or even putting up a thousand cranes within a matter of seconds, without actually seeing them do it, especially by the person you've come to love. that's something you're going to remember for the rest of you're life, even without having a mega-memory. but to forget all that stuff, within a matter of weeks, or months possibly, makes you think if the haitian had something to do with it or not. so it's possible HRG may have been tracking charlie, or even using the haitian to mind wipe her.

now obviously because charlie has a mega-memory power, she could have countered the haitian. which is why we tend to believe that the haitian had nothing to do it. but we really can't really predict what would happen if the haitian tried to mind-wipe charlie. it's only a 50-50 chance.

it's possible that maybe haitian did wipe her memory. but instead of charlie forgettin it permanently, she may of just forgotten it temporarily. we did see her remember stuff out of the blue; like random things just poppin up out of no where. this could have been something she was remembering from 6 months ago, or possibly before. maybe all her memories were starting to resurface, but the memories of hiro's didn't. well it could of, maybe she probably just needed more time for hiro's to resurface. but since sylar was there - TOO LATE!
amolion
QUOTE (aptman @ Jan 15 2007, 08:24 PM) *
unless her ability to "retain" information would allow Sylar to retain the memories even through the Haitian's mind-wiping attempt. We aren't really sure how her mind worked to get all of that information in the first place.



that wouldn't matter.

imagine our brians are cd-r's.. we can hold a limited amount of data, but can add and delete at will. charlie's brain is like a hard drive... either way if you completely wipe the memory, there will be nothing there.

QUOTE (englewood @ Jan 16 2007, 03:10 AM) *
the time travel on Heroes is similar to Back to the Future...
same rules


i hope not... everyone knows that BttF's theories on time are complete arse. they are based on paradoxes and follow none of the set theories. they mix up the type of time line and ignore the fact that time is only relative to the traveller.
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