Peter is still having visions/dreams in the coma... possibly damaging his psyche, wow. Nathan and Angela watching over him. Simone came to visit... aw! When did Peter tell Nathan that he was absorbing too many powers? I don't remember that. Now Nathan wants to meet Isaac.

Jessica has been kicking those guards ******... damn! Poor Niki... can't control Jessica and she's going to ruin Niki's life. Um, did Niki just use Jessica's super strength?

Claire is trying to test Bennet to see what he'll give up and betray... so far, she's being smart. SO SAD that Claire and Zach arent friends anymore! The only person she can trust is Mindwipe but we still don't know why he didnt erase her memory. I feel so badly for her... like she said, nothing in her life has been real.

Sylar is still captive... severly drugged. They're studying him, analyzing his dna and can't find any evidence of the powers he's stolen, meaning he hasnt made them a part of his DNA, he's just using them. Bennet said "they" havent authorized Sylar's death... so its a group he answers to, not one person.

How did Matt get the idea that Primatech was holding Sylar? He just guessed since Mindwipe and Bennet were talking about Sylar that they had him at their company? Matt has proven to Audrey that he can read thoughts over and over again... is she pulling a Scully on me? I like that Matt is so confident now. He seems to have connected a lot of dots on a hunch, conveniently. Matt's still trying to patch things up with Janice but I still think they're not going to stay together.

Hiro found his sword... it was previously wielded by Takezo Kensei, a famous Japanese warrior (samurai?). It focused his power. Ando translated the symbol to mean "great talent" & "godsend"... wow. Had no idea that the symbol was a combination of Japanese characters! Why is Hiro's power so diminished? The best he can muster is slowing down time. Then he steals the sword and its a fake? Ha... that's so Hiro.

Micah and DL are dealing... I like them together, clearly DL loves Micah. DL gave back 2 million? huh? Linderman still owns them

I don't like that Mohinder is involving the FBI. They don't need to be tuned into the idea of genetically advanced humans. Um, Eden's name was Sarah Ellis? Loved the interaction between Mohinder and Bennet. Maybe if he explained himself a bit more, Mohinder would trust him.

Isaac is clean but he doesnt remember how. Mindwipe must have gotten to him too. But glad he's clean and that he rememebers painting those paintings at least. Hiro and Ando came to NY with Isaac... I love it. Isaac still loves Simone... aw! FLYING MAN! Nathan is annoying.

Ted is trying to learn how to use his powers, OK. Why? Maybe he's gonna try to do good... I don't believe he's a bad guy.

Peter's awake! Why does he want to go to Las Vegas, Nevada? He's looking for Ted? He ran into invisible man!

he wants to go to nevada because he believes that he is the one that causes the explosion and he wants to go somewhere deserted so that no one gets hurt. he asked "that's where they tested nuclear bombs right?"

Nice notes.

You can add that we learned Peter's age (the only one we know for sure) -wait, and we learned Jackie's - she was 16, so Claire's probably the same. Yayness - no more debate on that.

What else? oh yeah... Simone believes them now, and wants to help Hiro get Linderman's sword. Will she be going with Hiro and Ando? That'd be interesting...

I LOVE how everyone's coming together - the only people that need to get with the picture are Mohinder (who is somewhat with them), Matt, and Niki & Co. Ah, soon enough... I can't wait!

Is it next Monday yet?

I liked that too, about Simone. She's all down for the cause now. I guess you can't argue with seeing one of Isaac's comic book characters come to life! I hope she does join them, her and Isaac. They make a fun team.

I can't wait for everyone to come together too... esp. Niki's crew. I love their story.

it seems like everyone is going to nevada, i wonder what's going down

Did you guys notice that Peter was also invisible,...did i just make any sence?
When they showed him struggling with invisible guy, they were pushing the table around and nobody could see them. thought he'd look like he was suspended in the air with nothing holding him up but he was also invisible.

OKAY A COUPLE OF QUESTION:

1.) I THOUGHT SYLARS POWERS DIDN'T WORK ING THAT LAB. SO HOW WAS HE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THE GLASS?

*** I WAS KIND OF SAD EDEN DIED, I ALWAYS THOUGHT HER AND MOHINDER WOULD HOOK-UP. BUT SHE WAS SMART BY KILLING HERSELF.

2.) IF (SYLAR)HE WAS POWERFUL ENOUGH TO BREAK THE GLASS IN THIS ROOM WHERE HIS POWERS "DIDN'T WORK". HOW DID THEY MANAGE TO WRESTLE HIM DOWN, DRUG HIM AND GET HIM TO A NEW ROOM THAT LOOKS EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE OHTER ONE?

*** I THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO ESCAPE.

3.) ANY IDEA OF WHO BENNET IS WORKING FOR?

***I DON'T THINK IT'S REALLY SMART FOR MOHINDER TO BE TAKING TO THE FBI EITHER

4.) WHAT IS MICAHS' POWER? I KNOW HE HAS ONE.

5.) ANY BODY ELSE REMEMBER SEEING THE INVISIABLE GUY BEFORE?

6.) WHERE IS CLAIRE'S MOM?

"I don't like that Mohinder is involving the FBI. They don't need to be tuned into the idea of genetically advanced humans."

I don't think it was an FBI agent he was talking to. The biggest clue to that is when he says that they ran "the name" (Sylar) and didn't come up with anything. Either this guy wasn't FBI, or Matt hasn't been working with the FBI. I think the former is more likely.

Well, I don't think many people in the FBI know about Sylar. Remember when Matt first read his name from Audrey, she said only a few people knew about the Sylar case. I don't think that has changed.

The guy talking with Mohinder said "Bureau" it strongly suggested FBI to me.
Audrey also says she is with the FBI. Audrey knows about Sylar. This guy above says he does not. If he was working for an intelligence bureau it should have at least pulled up the watch maker.

My idea has been said by others. The brunette is not FBI. If she is calling the shots and Audrey is just her puppet then I would think she is working with or for HRG.

Okay added thoughts to thoughts:

HRG has been bugging Mohinder's movements since he got there and was doing it to his dad before that. He could have very easily had his FBI call been intercepted by HRG's group. Send in the dumpie agent first to see what he can get and then send HRG.

Being a teenager is bad enough but try being an invisiable cheerleader. She had one soul friend in the world and her dad took that from her. Mindwiper Haitian is not much help emotionally to her. And the one person that makes any sense to all of this she can't see or it will blow her "I've been wiped cover"

And once again everyone is headed to Linderman and Vegas for all the pieces to the puzzle.

And Peter absorbs yet another power.

That's not what the FBI agent meant. He meant that he did a background check on the name Sylar, and turned up nothing. If it's classified, it's very likely he would not be privy to the details. I think Audrey inadvertently got involved with the case a while back, and was given clearance.
The brown-haired lady may be working for Bennett's organization, but there is no clear proof of that yet.

Wowie Zowie, was that worth the wait!

I was running commentary for one of my sisters and my younger brother, so I didn't catch every line (they had missed some episodes so I had to tell them "Okay they met here..." and so on and so forth) but what I saw was definately great!

Mohinder and HRG-now there's a meeting I have been waiting for. I still don't particularly trust, or like HRG but I understand his reasonings, just not the means to go about it (Sort of like Magneto in X Men or Demona in Gargoyles, I understand where that hatred comes from but I don't agree with their methods). Mohinder was very cool during it, and I guess during the whole two weeks hiatus he was able to do his homework on Eden. Though I thought he could have showed some emotion about her death (but I suppose he has had two weeks to adjust to her betrayel, and often times people will rationalize when they lose someone like that. by saying "Oh, I never trusted him/her anyway." )

Sylar-I'm glad I read some of these other posts before I made this, because I would not have known how he got caught. (I wish they had shown that though in the actual series, it would have made more sense and helped those of us, who still can't access the comics)

Niki/Jessica- It's interesting to see how her power is developing to the point that she can communicate with Jessica without her reflection. You know, I don't know if it was Jessica coming in there, but a couple of times like when they showed the broken baton, I wondered if that were Niki doing it. (One time she had this look like "I broke that? Cool!") But maybe that was Larter acting for Jessica briefly in that scene.

D.L. and Micah- Some sweet scenes. I am interested about that scene between D.L. and Linderman's flunky. I wonder what Big L. will ask him to do and will D.L. want to (and oh that scene between D.L. and Niki in prison when he puts his hand out to her, that was so sweet. )

Matt- Good scenes between him and his wife and a curious scene between him and Audrey. I guess the Bureau had been putting pressure on her, plus it can get tedious to be searching for someone for two weeks without any leads.

Nuclear Ted- Wow, great scene. I don't see a good future there.

Claire, Zach, and the Haitian- Loved her trying to jog Zach's memories and his reaction to seeing it all over again. Plus, the Haitian is becoming very curious indeed.

Isaac, Simone, and Nathan- Don't you just love characters who right off the bat don't like each other? It's that instant mutual loathing , you can so see that between Simone and Nathan. I don't think Isaac is all that crazy about him either and vice versa. Simone and Isaac seem to be closer now, I wonder what that means for her and Peter (or if that will be dropped).

Ando and Hiro- Great scene of a couple of noted felons. I loved Hiro stealing the sword and Ando having this reaction like "Yeah, we haven't broken enough laws today." Plus the aftermath with the sword and their reunion with Isaac and Nathan was teriffic.

Peter and Claude- The dream just heats up! It's kind of wierd to see Claude in them but adds more to this story and it's sad to see Peter so tortured by what he can do. I knew I would like Claude the moment I heard about him and the little I saw of him, I was right!

Even if it is classified (not that a serial killer would be classified within the department) someone doing a search on his name would set off alarms. Someone who was on the case would contact the agent looking and try to find out why he's looking for that name.

Sorry, it just doesn't cut it with me. The guy was not a Fed in any way, shape or form.

I don't believe that the brunette works for HRG because that sting in the ep. seemed to involve multiple organizations. Not the kind of thing that a clandestine organization could or would want to pull off just to blow smoke. Easier and better to just deny the search if that's the case.

But why couldn't they find the door? I can't remember exactly (have to re-watch the ep.) but it didn't seem like it was all that hidden before...

Peter wants to get to the desert so when he blows up as he thinks he will he wont hurt anyone.

I don't think the Haitian got to Isaac. He just doesn't want to tell Simone about where he was and what they were doing there.

I noticed that too! I think it goes back to how Peter's powers work at this point . . . Remember the thing with Matt (feedback) when they were in the same room. I think that until Peter gets more control, he can't "turn off" powers (especially new ones).

I was wondering how they would pull off the invisibility . . . Claude won't be just a disembodied voice.

I was disappointed in last night's episode. I'm a huge fan, and it was a major letdown, they seem to be getting farther away from what made the show so interesting in the beginning.
How is Nathan all the sudden running for Mayor, he was running for Congress before? I didn't like Mohinder involving the FBI. I wish they would just write Nicki/Jessica out of the show, her character just doesn't seem to be involved in the overall plot, they should have kept Eden and got rid of her instead. D.L., Mica, and N/J are just extraneous to the rest of what is going on, they need to tie them into everyone else ASAP.
The plot with Claire and Zack is hokey. And your right, why didn't the Haitian wipe her mind? How come Hiro's powers are diminishing? How did they hold onto Sylar after he shot Eden? I thought he had escaped? What's this big thing with Claire and wanting to find her parents now?
Does anybody have any idea who HRG really works for? Is it a little known government agency (Men In Black) or is it a company/conglomerate or is it some kind of like secret society like the Knight Templars?
Hopefully next will be a big improvement from this week, until then...

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It seems as if the FBI doesn't want to involve him in it. The FBI guy they sent was obviously told not to follow up on it, and to dissassociate the FBI from Mohinder. Mohinder is coming to the realization that this is something he alone can do.

He feels depressed that he lost Charlie, the one person he had truly loved.
His control of his powers may be related to his emotional control.
Future Hiro was a lot calmer than Hiro is now.

Actually, it still could be just one person, imho. I mean, there's no guarantee that HRG knows exactly who is calling the shots. He could think he's working for an OWI, when in fact, perhaps it's just one person behind it all. I say that, because honestly, I wouldn't be surprised to find it was Linderman.

This scene totally cracked me up. Although, did Hiro slow down time again to return it, or why wouldn't they have caught them? Just wondering... but doesn't really matter, now does it?


Again, I find this interesting. I think Peter is looking for a safe place because he thinks he's going to explode, from his visions. I think he figures that Nevada, if they've tested nukes there before, would be safe, and hopefully no one would get hurt. What I find most interesting about this is that, because of his visions, he is going to head into NV.

By heading into NV, he will actually be heading towards Ted. By heading towards Ted, he is more likely to pick up Ted's powers... which is most likely what is going to cause Peter to explode.

It really is reminding me of all the discussions on whether or not you can change the future after seeing the future, or whether your actions to try and avert the future you've seen, actually can cause it to happen.. does that make sense?



(WOW - way off topic for a second... but in replying, I've just realized, we now have official spoiler code! Yay!)

Anyways, sorry... I do think he was Fed. It wouldn't have pulled up the watch maker, in the sense of Sylar's original personality, because that was Gabriel Grey. It very well might have pulled up the fact that, well, Sylar is a watch company, but that wouldn't really be relevant, so he might not have mentioned it.



I think he was. Otherwise, wouldn't they have shown some hint that he wasn't, like they did with Claire's "bio-rents." If Sylar is a highly classified thing, then no, I still would think only certain people within the agency or bureaus or whatever, would know. Also, I think that the Brunette Agent (BA... for now... LOL) mentioned to Audrey that Sylar was the dying words of a victim. What if that's not even officially in the case titles or how ever they classify things. Does that make sense? If that's just what BA and Audrey call the case between themselves, then it might not be an official title, thus unable to be pulled up on a search.

I don't think BA works for HRG either.

As for the door... I remember distinctly HRG passing through halls, and then that guard station. He had to punch a code in to get through some door. Then, in the scene where Claire comes looking for paper for a banner, I remember Eden coming out from a different door, where it was implied she had just come from either Isaac or Sylar, but I think Isaac. It was a different door than HRG originally went through, but I think also access code protected.

I remember Isaac looked like he was being kept in a trailer kind of like what they use on construction sites, or a container from a train/boat, etc... it reminded me of that, at least. But it looked like it was in the middle of some warehouse room. In fact, it sure looked an awful lot like where they confronted HRG, without all the paper in the middle of the room. I'll have to rewatch and see. Were there windows in Isaac's rooms though? To outside?


Where did it say Mayor? I thought it was still Congress...

No, I think they came in right after Eden shot herself, preventing Sylar from escaping.


She had been asking about them from early on. She even says the original reason she had Zach tape her was to show her bio-rents when she found them, to ask them if they were special too, I guess. I think she figures, like most of us viewers, that the powers must be hereditary in some way, and wants to know if her bio-rents were special too.



Well that's kind of the big question right now, or one of them.

He has specified that he works for an OWI (Organization Without Initials), seemingly to exclude the FBI or CIA. We know there is someone else calling the shots, from his comments that "They want him alive" etc.

Other than that, we don't know much more. There is much speculation. One of the more popular ideas right now is that he somehow works for Linderman, although I think that's just a hunch most have based on the fact that, well, Linderman seems to show up everywhere. Other than that, I guess we don't really have any proof supporting or disproving that idea.

I thought this episode was awesome. It so was not enough for me. It made me think, crum, I could probably watch a whole Heroes movie, and still want more... lol

Okay, i"m probably being slow, but I just realized why the doctor talking to HRG at the beginning of the eppy looked so familiar - he had posed as Claire's bio-dad!

When did they say he was running for Mayor? Beyond the "campaign headquarters" in the dream/vision sequence, I don't remember any campaign related points being brought up.



If you thought you had evidence of some guy hunting down and killing people nationwide, who would you call? I'm guessing the FBI would be at the top of your list. Chances are, you wouldn't decide to take on a psycho serial killer yourself. Of course, if the FBI refuses to do anything, that might push Mohinder into taking action himself. It wouldn't be realistic to just have him ignore any law enforcement agencies and go on a personal hunt, though.



They tied together a lot of threads this week (Nathan/Simone/Isaac/Hiro/Ando). I'm sure that DL/Mica/Nikki/Jessica will come into the overarching story soon enough. You just have to be patient. Let them take their time and tell the story right.



We don't know just yet why the Haitian didn't wipe her mind. Whatever the reason, he thought it was important. I actually liked the Claire/Zach storyline. Claire felt absolutely alone. Moreso than usual. Her best friend had his memory wiped and another best friend was killed. She was supposed to hide some pretty big things from her dad and family. Who could she talk to? Haitian? To some degree, yes, but he's no substitute for a good friend. For Claire's sanity, I think Zach needed to be brought back "into the fold."



Emotional depression and self doubt over losing Charlie. His powers have been affected by emotions before. (When the gambler was being killed, Hiro couldn't stop time because he was too afraid.)



It's explained in the comic. They shot him full of drugs while Haitian was in the room. It was one quick scene, but I'm guessing that the Haitian was able to suppress his TK to keep Sylar from simply deflecting the darts.



She's wanted to find them for some time now. Now it actually seems like she's giving up on that.



I think someone has a very good idea of who HRG works for. But good luck trying to get the producers to divulge that info just yet. Going by clues in the show and comic though, he works for a highly secretive organization. At least once it posed as the CIA, but it doesn't necessarily have government ties. I'm sure that we'll know more about HRG's organization as the show progresses.

Trust me, I had the same problem...I kept scratching my head wondering who the hell that was and where had I seen him before. I had to log on here to jog my memory and when you take into account I've seen each episode about a dozen times, well, it's kind of embarrasing so I know I how you feel.

I agree that the episode was disappointing, but I'm cutting them some slack since it's the first episode in the new season. If you remember last season's start, it was slow and choppy too.

The D.L., Mica, and N/J storyline is tied to Linderman, who Hiro and the gang are off to go see. Peter's heading out to Nevada because radioactive-dude is out there, and whether he's aware of it or not, he's following some pre-destined course (i.e. chasing down and getting choked by the invisible man, as he saw in his coma visions).

Hiro's powers are diminishing because he doesn't believe in himself. Remember, he was the first one to really acclimate into his powers because he was a big comic nerd who believed such things were possible. His experiences in the U.S., particularly with Charlie (*sniff,* I miss CHARLIE!), made him doubt himself: life is bigger than the little imaginings of a tech geek, and that's affecting his powers.

Sylar didn't shoot Eden, Eden shot herself. Think about it, Sylar wanted her brains, why would he splatter them all over that room? She killed herself to stop him from stealing her power, and probably convincing others to LET HIM escape.

Remember, Sylar is being held in a facility specifically designed to incarcerate heroes. Between the Haitian and whomever else they've got holed up in there, Sylar must have been detained and reassigned a cell. It makes sense that it'd look identical, in the same way that prison cells all look the same.

Claire wants to find her real parents because she wants an explanation as to why the way she is. She feel betrayed by HRG and doesn't trust him anymore (I mean, he wanted to mind-wipe her and did so to everyone else she knew, for chrissakes), and wants some truthful answers.

I have no idea who HRG works for, none at all. My guess, for some reason that I have absolutely no verification for, is that he works for Linderman. I'm thinking, some vast monetary source, already enamored by Isaac's work and owns the sword that Hiro needs...seems a little too coincidental to me. But that's pure speculation and straight out my ****** so take it with a grain of salt, if you take it at all.

2.) IF (SYLAR)HE WAS POWERFUL ENOUGH TO BREAK THE GLASS IN THIS ROOM WHERE HIS POWERS "DIDN'T WORK". HOW DID THEY MANAGE TO WRESTLE HIM DOWN, DRUG HIM AND GET HIM TO A NEW ROOM THAT LOOKS EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE OHTER ONE?

I have a theory on this one. Bennet has a power, he cancels out other peoples powers, they do not work around him. Anyone find evidence either way?

Does anyone else think that The Japanesse Samurai in the museum painting could actually be HIRO? I mean they went into pretty good depth with the explenation of him and the sword and how the sword led the Samurai to be very pwoerful and what not. I know this is way out there but maybe Hiro goes back to accent Japan with the sword once he gets it from Linderman and then truly masters the abilitly of sword fighting and his time manipulation powers. Just a theory

When HRg was talking in the room with 'them', didn't he say that Eden dying was 'approved'? And with Mr. INvisiable I haven't heard of him before but I have been reading treads and others have mentioned him; someone clue me in because Im confused. How is he the one to teach Peter how to use his powers? An Michah has power over machines Im thinking because of what he did to the phone. And is anyone else curious about Nikki/Jessica becoming something other that a person? How else can she rip people apart?

Good catch. I had not noticed.



I disagree, it totally fits HRG's MO to "bring them in" study them, "help" them with their power, then "wipe" the memory of their tampering. Matt and Ted both got the same treatment.

I noticed something in the dream sequence. Matt gets out of a cab in his LAPD uniform. Why would he be in uniform if he's in NY? Any thoughts?

They didn't make that really clear at all.

I think the idea that HRG works for Lindermann is definitely a good idea.



I'll review my tape of monday's episode, but I'm pretty sure, the banner now says 'Mayor' and Nathan said, 'how could this happen right in the middle of the Mayoral race.'



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Ya, I've noticed that is a bit strange (I'd seen it before). Also i've found it strange that Claire was in her Cheerleading outfit, which has kinda gone the way of extinction since Peter became her Heroe. Any one else?

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Because its all a dream... its not a literal representation of future events. The only person who has precognition abilities is Isaac. Peter's dreams are symbolic.

Has anyones else noticed how much Linderman is tied in to what is going on? Linderman seems to be a focal point, he is in Las Vegas, Nevada. Simone mentioned he has been collecting Isaac's paintings for a long time which seems to suggest he may know of their precognitive qualities. He is associated with the Petrelli's, D.L. and Nikki and Isacc. Now it seems as if he is going to be a focal point for some upcoming event or revelation. Peter is heading to Nevada. Hiro and Ando are heading there because Linderman has the sword Hiro needs. Linderman obviously still has some degree of control over Nikki's future as well as a future marker against D.L. It seems to me that Mr. Linderman has been a silent but powerful influence during the whole series and it is only now becoming apparent. I wonder just how much he is going to play in future events?

Good theory, I reckon Peter has just leeched off Isaac's power and he's still feeling aftershocks from it. Hence why he went into a mini coma and relived the vision over and over.

Overall it seemed like a good episode, Hiro stealing a fake sword was classic . Then going to give it back was even better .

DLQ

I have one small complaint about the show from this week:

They made reference to finding something in Lake Ramsey near Sudbury "100 miles outside of Ontario" and that kinda made me laugh...because SOMEONE didn't do their research. For Canadian fans, it's a major gaffe, because we are, if nothing else, sensetive about our geography. That a major US show wouldn't take the time to research Lake Ramsey and its environs, like the Nickel Mine in Sudbury just blows my mind. Inco is one of the world's largest nickel producers, and Sudbury has been immortalized by Canadian Country music legend Stompin' Tom Connors in his hilarious song "Sudbury Saturday Night". That the production team for Heroes didn't notice this, or even appear to research it totally blows my mind.

Sudbury is approximately 250 miles or 400 kilometers from Toronto, the capital of Ontario. It is, most assuredly, inside Ontario.
If you check out Google Maps, you can see Science North in the sattelite images of Ramsey Lake (or Lake Ramsey, either or) on the western shore when you zoom in.
As a matter of fact, Science North in Sudbury was one of the original locations scouted to be the White Queen's Lair for the original X-Men script because of it's architecture.

it's probably the same reason that the diners didn't see their wallet and money floating in mid-air... or the guy didn't see his mobile phone float away... I'd hazard a guess that skin contact with Claude brings on the invisibility...

Probably for Linderman. Linderman seems way too involved in everything for it to be just a coincidence.

Actually it was the 12th episode of the first season.

i think that is why it's called dream sequence...