I was just thinking, and I realized that Peter should have 'Future Hiros' basically flawless chronokenisis and teleportation.. (from the subway)

I wonder when he's gonna break this out?

So here's a rough list (I realize that many of these especially the ones from Sylar are debateable, but feel free to comment)... and forgive me I dont know the ''official'' names of all these.. Im just brainstorming

WHAT HE'S USED/CONFIRMED

1. Invisible (Claude)
2. Healing (Claire)
3. TK (Sylar / from B.Davis)
4. Flight (Nathan)
5. Mind Reading (Parkman)
EDIT-6. PAINTING OF THE FUTURE ...duh I forgot

WHAT HE SHOULD HAVE/UNCONFIRMED

1. Chronokenisis (Future Hiro)
2. Teleportation (Future Hiro)
3. Freezing (Sylar..If this isnt a feature of TK, some people say it is)
4. ummm.. whatever Sylar has that makes him ''fly or whatever he does'' (from Mr. Walker?)
5. Super Memory (Sylar by way of ummm whats-her-face, the name is escaping me, u know what I mean)
6. Seduction? (Simone, givin she actually had it, most people think so)
EDIT-7. Knowing how things 'tick' (Sylar)

Help me out if anyone has any other ideas...

The Freezing is a different power than TK. His Jump is probably TK.

Don't forget Isaac's future painting,

And Sylar's shadowplay. The thing where the lights flicker and stuff when he comes around.

Also, he should be able to "know how things are broken, and how to fix them"

Super Memory - Her name is Charlie.
Here's my question... he absorbed Sylar's TK, which was taken from B.Davis... does Peter have to see the power in use before he can absorb it, or does he have Sylar's other stolen powers, as well, and just hasn't tapped into them.

And when Peter was on the roof... and HRG fired those things at him... did he stop them with TK, or chronokenisis... because they did stop all together...

I think it's sort of pushing to say Hiro has teleportation, atleast in the classic sense.

The only times he's "Teleported" are when he makes a BIG jump through time (The pilot with coming to New York, several weeks in the future. Back to Japan after helping Charlie, and Future Hiro coming back to help Peter)

He has yet to exhibit any "Teleportation" in the traditional sense of disappear from point-A and reappear in point-B at about the same time.
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As to the powers themselves, I think Peter has to spend more time around people to absorb their powers than he did with Future Hiro. (not sure about the comparitive time with Sylar, but I'm thinking he spent more time with Sylar)

Definatley not Teleportation. He moves time and space until he is in the proper time and space. He could not teleport through a wall.

well... he has said MANY times that he can bend time AND space. therefore... teleportation wouldnt be out of the realm of his powers.



in the very first episode (correct me if im wrong) peter tells nathan that when getting out of bed that morning that his foot had hovered off the ground for just a split second. the first episode was WELL before peter was in the presence of nathan while he was flying. this pretty much proves beyong a shadow of a doubt that all he has to do is be around someone to absorb their powers. as far as HOW LONG he has to be in their presence... i dont think the writers are going to be THAT nitpicky about stuff like that.

also... i dont think the degree of control the person had over their power when it was absorbed has any effect on the degree of control that the person who absorbed it has. so saying that peter should have extreme control over time/space like future hiro did wouldnt be right.

for example... look at dale. she said that at first, her super hearing was horrible. that everything was WAY too loud and that she could hardly control it, but that NOW she had learned to use it better. however, when sylar stole it from her, his hearing started going bonkers (an obvious sign that he had little to no control over it).

now, i know that particular incident involved sylar, but peter and sylars power is somewhat similar in essence.

He's said it, but there's a difference between saying something and making it true.
I think Hiro, while smart, is basically using classic Sci-Fi molds as his basis for most 'science'.

He has yet to really bend space without bending time, unless he's done alot of things with his powers we are not privy too, then he could simply be wrong.

He could probably simulate teleportation to the eyes of most observers (Stand in one place, stop time, move to another place, start it again) but it still wouldn't be "Nightcrawler of X-men" style teleportation.

As individuals, I think we read more into it than we need to at times. If in the show the actor says he teleported then he teleported. Who are you or any of us to say hes wrong when he himself said thats what it is. Lets enjoy the show instead of digging too deep.

agreed.

Oh, I don't know. I think he teleported to New York, but that also had the side effect of him going forward a month. It's not like he froze time and then got to New York all the way on foot. Not to mention in the very first episode, when he teleports into the ladies' toilets. It doesn't go into particulars, but he does claim to have teleported. I think he'd have said "stopped time" if that's what he did, and then walked into the toilets.

So meh. Bending the space/time continuum is his power. He can appear anywhere, at any time, should he wish it.

One of the theories of "quantum mechanics" is the "Gravity well Principle" wherein a person who is time travelling maintains a specific connection to the earth in which they are able to avoid staying in the same place in the solar system when the earth rotates around the sun. This same principle could apply here, when Hiro remains on the earth, and while "out of time" the earth rotates and he remains in the spot, until he rejoins the current time continuity. At this time, the earth has rotated under his feet to allow him to be in New York in 8 weeks or so.

A lot to take in, and not perfect, but it is an idea.

Most people hear teleportation, they do think Nightcrawler, not Kitty Pride. But Kitty Pride is what Hiro equates himself to a lot.

very true. i like that idea.

That's true, about the flying and all, but I'm wondering if maybe it's different with stolen powers, you know?

And no, Peter wouldn't have instant control over his powers, but he could still use them spontaniously. It is a stretch, but it's an interesting stretch...



Part of the fun of watching a show like Heroes is trying to find all the clues, even if there are none to find. It's fun to try and put puzzle pieces together with other people who have different puzzle pieces. That's why we dig so deep... and also because our minds function on that level and some of us - like me - can't help but to function on that level. I disect everything, because that's how I work. I love digging and digging and digging, and yeah, sometimes you hit granite and have to dig somewhere else, but sometimes - the really good, fun, and interesting times - you have nothing but soil for miles and miles.

And that may just be me. Anyone that this doesn't apply to, feel free to speak up.

PANDA EDIT: By the way, I love the Quantum Mechanics tie-in, and I'm kicking myself for not seeing it myself. A show that focuses that much on science, I should have seen that. *Is a chaos theory buff* I don't think we can be too strict on the definition of teleportation, seeing as noone in real life has really done it. I think that the fact that Hiro can stop time, go somewhere, and re activate time should qualify as teleportation, because if you think about it, it's really not all that different.

Besides, if the writers told Hiro that he can bend the time/space continuum, then who am I to say otherwise?

It's been said by (I believe) the writers (I usually only read Beeman's Blog and the CBR interviews, as well as watch the commentaries) that Peter absorbs the power in a raw state.

Finally someone who sees it the same way I do. It is not that future-Hiros powers were any stronger than present-Hiro's powers, he just had learned to control his powers better.

And another sensible reply, suddenly I am in awe. (I know this might sound ironic, but I am serious so please do not take offense)

What does it matter how he does it? He just teleports somehow. I agree that it might not be Nightcrawler style, but why argue about it? And about bending time&space: there is no time without space as far as my knowledge of physics goes so...

kitty pride does not teleport she phases...D L phases

I read this too, not sure where, but he does get their powers in a raw form so it wouldn't be the perfected power by the hero himself, just the ability to do it

I think it's only if the person uses it around him.

It helps me to put the powers in chronological order...
here is my list that I have posted elsewhere on various threads.

1. Flight (Nathan)
2. Dreaming something or another or Asteral Projection (Charles Devoeux) - however you spell his last name)
3. Paint/draw the future Precognition (Isaac)
4. Bending time & space (future Hiro)
5. Persuasion (Eden)
6. Regeneration or Healing (Claire)
7. TK+ (Sylar) Freezing, Bullets can not harm him, Super memory, ect
8. Mind Reading (Matt)
9. Invisibility (Claude)
10. Memory Erasure (The Haitian on the rooftop when Claude got tasured)

Peter has never been near Ted, Niki/Jessica, DL, Micah, Hana, Zane, or Dale.

Peter is able to at least use 2 powers at once (TK and invisibility - Isaac's apartment.

So if the powers are in the raw, then he would have to develope the power by teaching himself how to use it?

Or he just feels the need to use it... Like the TK while Claude was beating him with the staff on the roof.

Peter didn't know it was "in his file cabinet" but he used it anyway, then thought about where it might have come from afterwards.

Peter wasn't in the locker room with Claire when she healed, yet he healed just by being near her. I think he absorbs others powers whether they use them near him or not, that's why he didn't even know he had more than one.

Exactly, enter Claude, if you think of the scene where claude was beating him with the stick, he used Sylar's TK, and didn't even remember the lockers being thrown at him until after he used the power so basically Claude is pushing him to teach himself control over all of his potential powers.

I think as Peter progresses in his training he will be able to use the powers intuitively similar to how a normal humans gets used to new stuff after a while.
I agree that the scene on the roof has shown this pretty well. I also think that he is not limited in how many powers he can use at a time, he is only limited by the amount of concentration every action/power takes.

Imagine yourself doing mutliple things at once and you get my idea.

I had been wondering that myself, if possibly Peter could have ALL of Sylar's stolen powers or if the power has to be used near him in order for him to absorb it. Remember, his brother always had the power to fly but Peter never tapped into it until Nathan used it to save him. Still up in the air here...

As for the roof, I think it was chronokinesis. The sound and look of it was exactly like when Hiro stops time.

From what we have seen so far Peter's body automatically absorbs powers. The person doesnt have to be using the power while near him for him to absorb it. He just absoorbs it. It's hard to say if he got all of Sylar's power because we dont know what all of Sylar's powers are. When he was in HRG's custody they ran all those test on him but could only detect telekinesis. So that might mean that Sylar has the abiltiy to hide his other powers somehow. Though I firmly believe that Peter has all of Sylar's stolen powers but doesn't know it.

I think it's been established that he used TK to stop and drop the tazer charges, otherwise they would have continued on their trajectory after time started back up again.

As far as the question does Hiro have the ability of teleportation..I'd say yes. After all when he told Ando he was going to teleport to the ladies room the first episode I blieve he did it. To me that is going from point A to point B without time travel.

i think that when he used TK the FIRST time against sylar that he felt FEAR. a desire to stop what was happening. i think that same (or a similar) feeling triggered it to work when he was being beat like a pinata on the roof of the Deveaux building by claude.



did you even READ my post? peter DID use flight WAY before he saw nathan use it.

he stopped time in episode 16.

If you're referring to the bullet stopping, I think that was telekinesis. So far Hiro has only displayed the ability to stop time COMPLETELY. So why would Peter, who hasn't ever used the power before, be able to concentrate his powers ONLY on the bullets? And if he DID manage to stop ONLY the bullets, wouldn't they continue flying after he releases them from his power? But no, they drop. He stopped them dead with telekinesis.

Also, chronokinesis just sounds stupid. That said, I can't think of any other suitable name that's relatively short.

he has super sonic voice which will explode sylar head when he uses his super hearing

he used the ability to see the future from isaac. that can come in handy, but he was doing that before he met Isaac. episode 1 and 2

Does Peter also possess THE HAITIAN'S memory wiping ability, since he came into contact with the haitian?

I doubt Peter can just walk by and get a power. Everyone whose powers he has demonstrated he stuck around for a while
Also when training with Claude it's mentioned he has to remember the people, how they made him feel.
I don't have much feeling or memory of folks I just passed on the street.

The potiential for overpowerment is there, but I think the writers will be smart enough to keep him from reaching truly omnipotent level.

My honest guess is that Peter and Sylar keep gaining powers this season...maybe part of next season, have a big faceoff and both die as a result.
That way the two possible 'superman' types go the way of the dodo and we are left with the more 'regular' superhumans.

If not, there's always the potential for Heroes to rip off Justice Leage cartoon and have Peter become so powerful he doesn't relate to humanity anymore and just leaves the planet.

Is this another thread about Peter's powers and how he got them? Oh dear.. So many of these similar threads!

Repeating what other people have said, Peter gained Claude's ability pretty much just walking up to him, before he even knew what was going on or he even had a power. When training with Claude he called up Sylar's TK without thinking, then had to stop and think about where he got it from.

well.. he stops time in one spot, walks over and movies the girl, and time starts back up again and he is not in the same spot.
That folks, is teleportation.

When was Peter around Eden?

One of the first couple of episodes. People even posted a screen shot of it, Eden and Peter briefly said hi/bye type stuff.

If Peter can absorb invisible man's power across the street it's not going to be surpising he would be able to absorb Eden power.

I'm still not sure if the person he is absorbing the power from needs to be using their powers or not. Claude was definetly using his power which is why Peter obviously copied it from there. What if he wasn't using his power, like the Haitian on the roof top when in close proximity to Peter. Does that mean Peter didn't absorb his mind altering power? I'm guessing they will answer that in the next couple of episodes.

He should.

Peter was around Eden when he was talking to Mohinder in Mohinder's apartment.

Peter went to Mohinder's apartment after Mohinder tried to warn Nathan about a killer (Sylar) Nathan must have told Peter about the incident because Peter went to speak with Mohinder himself, thus meeting Eden briefly. Eden later called HRG and told him about a guy who thought he could fly that met a man who could stop time on a train and there was a precog painter. HRG said "That's interesting" and to bring the precog in. Remember now?

people keep saying eden... wasnt here name EVE?

Nope. Her name was Eden McCain.

I think that this is the list of Peters powers.

1)Power sponge his original power
2)Flight from Nathan
3)See the future from Issaic
4)Time Manipulation from Future Hiro
5)Persuation from Edan
6)Super healing from Claire
7)Tk from Sylar
8)Freezing from Sylar
9)Super Memory from Sylar
10)Unknown from Sylar
11)Know how things work from Gabrielle Grey
12)Unknown power from Sylar
13)Read minds from Matt
14)Invisibility from Claude
15)Mind erase from the Haitian

Now I think his power come from emotions so all he has to do is recreate the emotion for each power. So it does not matter if he has met the person with the power or knew that the person has the power, he will fill an emotion and it will come out. Hopefully none will be connected to being happy or sad.

If he ever absorbs Radioactive Man's power and it gets linked with anger, the Hero-verse is screwed.

Screw Hero-verse -- the WORLD is screwed! lol.

Actually he can teleport short distances. You guys seem to be forgetting when he and Ando where at that resteraunt and he told Ando he could teleport into the ladies room. When and turned around Hiro was gone and he left. Then they show Hiro getting thrown out because he was caught in the ladies restroom.



Read what I just said man!

I heard that Peter doesn't copy other people's powers, but other people copy his powers. I heard it on some spoiler website

I think I know what article you are referring too, and I do believe that whole thing was a joke.