Heroes Changes In Season 2

Tim Kring, creator of NBC's hit series Heroes, told SCI FI Wire that the upcoming second season will constitute a new volume in the multi-volume series, with new characters and an entirely new storyline. "If you remember, the opening of the pilot pronounced the episode as the beginning of Volume One," Kring said in an interview. "Volume One comes to a conclusion at the end of episode 23, and Volume Two starts with the opening of season two. And Volume Two is a different story."

Kring added: "We could have new people and new storylines and new ideas and new threats and new bad guys and new heroes. So I would prepare the audience for that idea, that it's not just a continuing serialized storyline about only these people. It's a little more the 24 model than the Lost model."

The first season of Heroes is exploring what happens when a disparate group of ordinary people discover they have extraordinary abilities and attempt to save New York from disaster.

"Heroes needs to evolve, and if we are positing an idea that this is happening all over the world to many, many people, then we get to see some of those people and see how their story fits in."

Kring also confirmed that some of the current heroes just might not survive this season, but added: "Many of your favorites will live to fight again." Heroes airs on Monday nights at 9 p.m. ET/PT. —Kathie Huddleston

Link:
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?c...=0&id=40354

But... I like my current Heroes.

Yeah I know, pretty crazy stuff. I have been a lurker till now, when I saw this news I had to post it.

However, I must say I think it is a great idea to keep things fresh. I always said if this show went the way of Lost, I was gone. If Volume 2 takes place in Russia (for example) and you see footage on a Russian news station about an American surviving a devastating explosion and it is someone from season 1... that would be very cool. Then in season 3, say someone from season 1 showed up. There are a lot of possibilities here.

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?c...=0&id=40354



Interesting...

Wow, I don't know how that will go down in there's an entirely new cast. I think the ratings might crash and burn if they did that. It's an interesting idea though. Risky.

i very much doubt they will bring in an entirely new cast, i suspect though that at least a couple of the main characters now will find themselves relegated to more minor roles in the story and possibly the other way around as well, i also think we should expect a whole buch more characters coming in but they may or may not have the deeply intertwined connections we are seeing in the current batch of heroes.
True enough it is a risky, but interesting idea, but it really may serve to emphasise that this isnt the ordinary show that stays basically the same for 5 years like most shows. But then they have to be careful because often people are wary of anything thats different, they really want everything to be the same and cant stand anything new, i guess we will see what happens in a few months.

This reminds me of an interesting idea i heard about a show called threshold, (i only saw two eps b/c of a bad time slot here in Australia) apparently if the show had lasted the title would have changed each year, the first season about a secret invasion, the second when the invasion becomes public and the thrid where there is almost a full blown war. Ever since i read about this i have been so interested in how it woul have turned out, maybe this news about heroes will give me a chance to find out to some degree.

If they do it right, they can pull it off. They will have to establish the Special Underground Resistance against OWI and other institutions. They can do the whole going public thing and the reactions of humanity to find out once and for all that there are Supers in their midst. I think they would have to keep some of the major characters, but really what is going on here is the Petrelli Family and their involvement with OWI, known or not. Mohinder might be the best choice for a bridge, with him off refining his method of tracking down Specials. That could lead him to the Underground, or whatever other storyline needed.

Plus, Hiro has to go back in time and become Takezo, that could take the entire Season 2 (speculation!)

It would be smart of them to maintain a core of Heroes and shift them out gradually, which they seem to have done a good job of this season. I think it will depend on how the season ends that really determines the future of the series.

If they brought in a completely new cast I wouldn't like that idea. I think you would lose what has made the show special so far if they did in fact do that. With that said I don't think or hope he didn't mean that. With people about to bite the big one and what not it does leave some room to add new characters. I like the idea of it possibly being in some other area and a new story to deal with. The rest of the idea is interesting to think about but I just don't like bringing in a new cast. "Buffy" had four central characters and everyone else could die at anytime. Some others were on the show for years when they were finally written off. I think they could do something like that. I don't think it's about not wanting change. I personally like watching good shows with good characters and being a part of their evolution over the years. I think it brings you into the show more. You feel connected to the show. They even do flashbacks much like "Buffy" were you also get to see were they have been. I think they need to stick with what got them here and add to it. Not subtract and try and retool. Like what was said I think it would be smart if they maintain a core of heroes and as the show goes on you can shift them out gradually while adding others. Basically let it flow naturally.

the way I see it is that they're going to focus on different aspects from the first season, for example:

-an indepth look into the true nature of Niki and Jessica and why is it that they "coincidentially" hooked up (or were paired) would give a lot of story material
-where is The Haitian taking Claire? what characters are we going to meet? is there a whole nother group of special people who have learned about their powers and have a more philosophical/religious angle to them?
-Linderman's association with the heroes, I mean, hasn't anyone noticed that Linderman's been buying Isaac's paintings? what if he's doing this to keep tabs on them? isn't it a coincidence that Isaac apparently lives in the Deveaux (sp) building? and that most of his paintings involve certain characters?
-Mohinder might get a kickstart on his research, paving the way for lots and lots of new specials, and what if he gets backed by any of the organizations that have been hinted upon?
-supposedly, Hiro's going to be in a different place than the others by season's end. season two is the perfect place to explore his whereabouts

the possibilities are endless

Why they going to try and fix something that isn't broken, their are a great group of characters and a cast that works really well together, why go a scrap all that for new characters and scale back the ones people have connections too? I could see something like this in 4 or 5 seasons when they want to refreshen the story, but Season 2 no way. If they F it up too bad next year I'll probably be out.

I don't think you all read that correctly,

It said in the 24 model more than Lost


24 does overall all its characters each year. Jack is still there with many of the other members of CTU, but they always bring in new villians, new bit characters, and new more important characters. Its not so much about overhauling the cast as it is about keeping it fresh, replacing the dead people as well as broading the cast.


Don't freak out. Kring seems to know what he's doing, so lets see what happens. Just enjoy the last episodes of season 1 before worrying about 2.

my thought exactly, am I the only one excited about this?

I'm actually very excited,

and because unlike 24 there is no JACK BAUER character...

so, anyone can die at any time. I mean we all think people like Hiro or Peter are safe, but really why are they? The story has no central character so any of them might meet death at any time.

You've gotta be excited about that.

o.O

whoa... I was not expecting that. I've never seen a show do that, so I'm not gonna knock it just yet. Not until I've seen it. But I will say I will miss my current characters. Do you think they'll all die off in the end, or do you think that they'll live and the season 1 group will get together with the season 2 group in season 3.

that's exactly the best thing, they can go anywhere with it, and let me tell you, there's nothing like a creator who's allowed to go nuts with their toys, usually that's where the most exciting work comes from

people need to READ.
the post says not ALL heroes will survive season 1, but most will live to fight another day.

******, I really think this is %$#%# up man
The current cast is great, all of them. Nothing to complain.
This was my nightmare lol

I personally like the idea. I would hate to see this show go down hill like lost and by starting a new plot with different characters while bringing in the current ones will make it very special. It will keep 9th wonders alive and going strong with all of our new speculations and theory's for season 2. Another reason I like it is for the simple fact that there are more people all over the world discovering there new abilities and by starting a new plot would be like reading one comic book series (season one) and then reading another comic book series (season 2) and then bring the two books together for a well balanced and fully developed stronger story (season 3). Great Idea Tim. I got your back! Keep up the great work.

Not at all.

I think people are interpreting Kring's comments as alot more radical than they really are. His line about "Many of your favorites will live to fight again" should have been enough to alleviate most.

It's not like it's going to be an entirely different show, we know the OWI obviously has a global reach, they're not just going to go away and it seems Sylar will return aswell. The big question on my mind with Tim stating in the past that they will be exploring the global aspect of the show possibly more deeply, it has me wondering if the show's main focus will be on a different country altogether.

Thats what I'm excited about the most, even after the first season is over, I'm still going to have no idea what to expect from the next one.

I'm sure thats terrifying for some people but not for me.

Another advantage is it allows the actors to do other things and come back into the series later. Claude (Chris Eccleston) can't regenerate into the 10th Doctor the way it works in Dr. Who so he can avoid being typecast. This way he can go off, do a movie or two, and come back in a leter season. Same for all the others; you can constantly refresh the show without having to kill old favorites.

Where'd you hear "said" character would return?

Tim Kring mentioned it in a interview a month or so ago.

yeah i remember reading that article as well.

id rather stick with a permanent cast with revolving guest stars thank you...

The PERMANENT cast is expanding... plain and simple

I was at first surprised by this news. But after reading again this is GREAT!

I like Heroes a lot, it is a show with a lot of potential and instead of sticking with what's tried and true, they are expanding (which, in the long run could open up some REALLY powerful stories in the future.

I would hate for this show to start to progressively get worse (a la Buffy, etc.)

Besids, not everyone is going to die, so I am happy with the Heroes-verse expanding, who knows, maybe we'll get a big screen feature at some point?

Hmm, I think it's acceptable as long as they don't introduce like 8 new heroes (like how they introduced our heroes of season 1 that we have come to know).


Bringing in too many people; eh I dunno, it's good but I like to keep as much as the old cast as possible.

wow this is great news i like it. but my worry is what if they run out of powers lol. maybe they'll reuse powers. i dunno. but other than that, awsome news. looking foward to seasoj two (and the rest of season one of course)

Think about it, Hiro is featured heavily (supposedly) along with his family in Season 2.
Hiro knows heroes and will know more.

think about it... you really think they are going overhaul the show with completely new characters and still have it relate?

That's just it, Finger.

If they ever wanted to, they could do that and still have it completely relate to the series.

It all comes down to the meaning and the concept of the show and what the creators know the show is about and what the fans think and want the show to be about.

Heroes could continue on and definitely work like that because it would fit what Heroes is about perfectly, whether the fans would accept it is a whole nother story.

Though judging from the stragglers hanging onto Lost, I'd say serialized drama fans have a high tolerance for pain.

If people really stop watching because of new storylines, then people need to stop being so attached to characters and get a life. Sorry, that was just my rant. I don't like it when people base a show only on liking a specific person(s).


But on the whole new people thing, I REALLY like it! I think they should have a new cast with maybe four (peter, claire, hiro, and sylar [top 4 pretty much]) people from this season. It opens up so much possibilities. I will love Heroes EVEN MORE if they do this. I can't even imagine a world where I like Heroes more than now!

It's obviously the show is waiting to see which character is popular, the loved ones will get back, the not so loved one will get the axe.

Simone is gone
Isaac, I'm guessing soon

not so popular - Niki/DL

people like HRG/Sylar, that's why HRG is regular now, and Sylar should come back based on his popularity.

It's nice that the show is doing what the viewers want...but then at the same time, it means they don't have a direction. People get axe/stay are not based on the storylines. It follows whatever the viewers dictate, which I don't like.

Hey, maybe we finally get to meet Uluru!

At least we know Nathan is safe. If Isaac is right, he becomes President some day.

Um, safty of a character not necessary means s/he will be back next season. If the show shift locations, say, from NYC to Chicago...they can easily write the character off without killing him/her.

I'm agreed with this. Agreeing with some other people on this thread, too, I think there will definitely be some core characters kept on, but some will be relegated to recurring roles. IMO, the whole Petrelli family, Mohinder, and Hiro will returning next season (if they're alive), but the others could definitely be demoted from "regular" status. That would free up the storyline to go all over the world and weave new characters into the lives of our old core characters.

As for basing it in another country? I'm not so sure. I mean, the US is one of the only places this show could take place, and all the foreigners wouldn't stick out like sore thumbs. It's common to walk down the street and see different races, ages, etc. interacting in various languages and accents here, but not so much in most other countries. It'll probably still be based in the US, but we'd have some scenes in other countries - Egypt would be a cool one for me, South Africa, Argentina, France, Germany, Russia, Australia... the list is endless, and I think the show will definitely be introducing more diverse people next season.

I also didn't read it as meaning they'll overhaul most of the cast. He said he'd be following the "24" model. If that is true, most of the cast will be kept, only they'll do new storylines. I took it more as meaning that the Sylar and Explosion and Save the Cheerleader plotlines will be fully resolved when season 1 is finished.

Naturally some characters will die, some will probably be de-emphasized, and some new regulars and supporting will be added in season 2, but I very much doubt they'll be overhauling the entire cast. That would be suicide. Also, most of the regulars still have plenty of story in them. It's not just a matter of popularity or lack thereof. I don't think Simone was killed because she was relatively unpopular, but rather because there was no storyline for her, the character was pretty much done.

The one regular left that I think is a bit dramatically spent is Isaac. I have this suspicion he is the one that will be killed by the end of season 1. I also have an intuition that Sylar will be either killed or put on ice for a long time by season's end. Face it, as popular and interesting as Sylar is, he is also an insane serial killer out to murder the other characters. His only role is that of threat, so he can't be long-term onscreen character material.

Ok if They decided to get an entirely new cast of characters I along with many other people will be extremely upset. We all have our favorite characters and if one gets killed... alright... some people are upset... but if its an entire new cast the next year that will be like killing off everyone's favorite characters all at once.. Disaster waiting to happen

Like I said in my original post . I am all for them bringing in some new blood and expanding on the story. I do think that is a great idea as well. I don't think he meant it as a overhaul of the currant cast. If some how he did mean that I would be disappointed but I think he will bring back a core of the currant cast and expand their roles into the next wave of heroes and the next problem they have to deal with. Some others may end up being coming back once in a while.

Think about this,

the show postulates that all the powers are based on genetic code and mutation. Meaning that we can't just have 8-10 people with the powers. Its not like the Fantastic Four where only a few people were exposed to something that gave them powers...its more like X-Men where a ton of people have these powers due to mutation. So...obviously, like X-men there have to be many more characters. But remember, X-men always kept a core of popular and well known people and even villians...I expect Kring to take the same approach.

Sounds like a great way for the actors to not to make any great demands. Ask for more money..Bye bye.

the way i see it for now they have to keep the core characters i.e. peter claire hiro...

also dont worry about losing hiro, i heard that season 2 is mainly about him and his family...

also they cant force people to stay in a show we know will last forever if not longer...

by the time the second season starts many of the actors will want to move on or at least take a break... with this show set up they can bring people in and out as needed or as wanted...

so everyone get those frowny faces outta here , and put a smile on because your favs still have a place in the heroes universe...

I would really like to see some more evil characters

While I know people die, I'd rather see my own favorites 'go into hiding' and be rediscovered later (like Claude, who was supposed to be dead all along, remember?).

I would hate to see Hiro, Matt, or Peter go. For me, they are the heart and soul of the show. An honorable sacrificial death makes a great story, though. (and it can always be apparent death..)

It's a risk. You may lose characters, but others will come. If we have grown so fond of these, we can trust that the new ones will be as engaging. I think Tim Kring can pull it off (esp. if he continues listening to Mrs. Kring, who gave us Hiro!). If you had favorites in season one, imagine what new favorites might emerge in season two...( like someone who can heal others, or an actual empath, who can feel others feelings/project feelings into others...pretty please?)

I understand people's worry, I don't like to lose characters I care for. I stopped watching Sliders sometime after they killed the Professor. The new people weren't enough to keep my interest, and the writers themselves seemed to have lost heart. Stargate was hard to watch when the character Daniel left, but there were still others there that I loved, so I hung in there, and I perked right up when Daniel returned. Heroes will keep my interest...

More than anything, though, I want Tim to tell the story as he sees it unfold. We've trusted him this far, with a series unique in that each episode is arguably better than the one before. The last thing I want is for him to change his vision in an attempt to please anyone, even me.

I trust Tim to do the right thing. So i put all my faith in him...

...why do i have the sinking suspiscion that Peter is going to die...is it just me who can feel this coming on?..

Peter and Hiro can NOT die!

I am greatly looking forward to this. A part of me will be disappointed if we no longer see Hiro or the Petrellis, and oh, goodness me, Mr. Bennet, but things change. I'm okay with that. Whatever we get, as long as there's a good story and lots of character fun, I'm a happy fangirl

So how do you feel about ER? I haven't seen George Clooney or Noah Wiley on it lately but it soldiers on. I think on Heroes, the story is bigger than the individual characters.

I think ist confirmed that Hiro won't be with the rest of the cast because he will be in another century.

I believe that season 2 will be set in feudal Japan where Hiro becomes Takezo Kensei. It will be a samurai epic. Maybe they will introduce new Heroes of the past as well.

Another thing, what if Isaac's paintings aren't small scale by only relating to things in season 1. Perhaps we will see Hiro fight a dinosaur, or maybe we'll find out the story behind the exploding flame person..

Season 3 may turn out to be in the future and about Uluru..

This is also a good way for the other names on the list to be introduced.

This is great, heroes will now have more depth than any other show.

This sounds a lot more complicated that bringing in an entire new cast.



But I do love the idea of starting fresh with new characters and a few old favorites. Not only is it promising for tons of storylines {instead of piling more and more mysteries into the established cast member's tired pasts} but think what it could do fo other series! Sure 24 technically did it first like Kring said, but this'll could open up possibilities for lots of other future shows. Changing half the cast and the setting could be refreshing way to avoid stale plots.

Then again, maybe I'm getting a bit ahead of myself.

I think some people will appear to die in the finale, and we shall debate who's dead and who isn't.
Isaac will die before the finale, I assume.
In my opinion, these characters are safe:
Niki/Jessica
Hiro
Sylar
Mohinder
Linderman
Claude
Meredith

And that's seriously it. Mostly because Jessica makes a third villain, and Kring says she's really important to the plot.
Hiro and Sylar are given as safe, and Mohinder is the Narrator, a nearly irreplacable role.
Linderman will need further elaboration, and what we've seen of him so far seems to be lead-up to him becoming much more of a major player in Season 2.
The last two are broad assumptions.