Peter, cant remember anything,
Ends up in a locked dumpster
The irish gangs were tipped off or knows of the container
The Haitian's necklace is around his neck.

It is implyied that the Haitian took peter's memory ... cant wait for 4 weeks back episode.

This screams setup ... now it'l be interesting to find out why

I agree with everything in the above quote.

Clearly the Haitian. But, I mean, whyyyy?

Because he is working for someone else...

But isn't the Haitian in league with Angela Petrelli? I would assume that he's on Hiro's dad/Angela's team... Unless Angela's turning against her own people and using the Haitian to take care of business...

If he was...I doubt he still is.

Maybe The Haitian...did something to Peter THEN did that..HM? lol!

So, if the Haitian did that to Peter, then you have to assume that Peter has the Haitian's power. Which means that the power of the Haitian can work on himself, or something like that. Thoughts?

To protect him.

i agree that peter now has the haitian's powers. what did peter do to throw the man out of the crate? what was that flash of light from?

I think you got it figured out. The necklace and memory blank make the involvement of the Haitian clear. So Nathan and Peter go up into the sky and Peter ends up in the UK in some metal box. What happened between is the big question mark.

Oh, I didn't even think about the Haitian being responsible for Peter's memory loss. Interesting.

I was wondering about that flash. I don't think The Haitian had anything to do with Peter. We must remember this is 4 months later.

In regards to Peter and The Haitian, follow this link to Speculation & Theories..
Can Peter take The Haitian power?

OoOoo that's an interesting one! But wouldn't Peter just make other people loose their memories, just like the Haitian? The Haitian never lost any of his memories (that we know of) and he did it to other people.

One more thing just smacked me upside the head thinking about this. IF the Haitian took Peter's mind and gave him the necklace (I don't think it's the same, since the Haitian's necklace was metal, and this one looked plastic) then you have to ask why he left the necklace if he really wanted Peter to forget. That necklace would only get Peter questioning things and would lead him down a road that the Haitian wanted him to go down. So, there has to be something here to this event that we will see during the season, namely what is the source for the necklace (i.e. symbol) and what is it that Peter is supposed to be doing?

Peter shipped from China?

When the guys first opened the container, they asked Peter where the iPods were. IPods are assembled in China. If they were trying to steal a shipment of new iPods, the shipment would have come from China. What does everyone think of the thought that Peter was shipped from China in the shipping container instead of the iPods?

There's a theory floating around that Peter fell into the sea after the explosion and was picked up by a ship.


...never heard them mention iPods, though. Guess I'll have to watch it again.

Well, the guys may have thought they were there for ipods but it doesn't mean that's why they were sent. They were also looking for the crates number. They weren't necessarily making sure this was a crate from China or anything.

Where he came from isn't as intriguing to me as what happened to him while he was there. Wherever there may be.

The Haitian got to peter he was wearing his necklace in the shipping crate.

Well, his necklace may be similar to the Haitian's but we have yet to see. I don't see why the Haitian would put his necklace on Peter.

Which makes you wonder, what could have happened to the Haitian that he would part with that neckless? After all, its awful important to him, seeing as how it was his fathers.

Did he leave it as a reminder, so Peter or *someone* would know what happened? Does that mean he was forced to earse Peters memory against his will?

Or is it something worse. Was he injured or something. I'm a bit worried about the Haitian Sensation

Thats a pretty good theory...if Angela told him to, he would have mind wiped Peter in a new way perhaps, to where he could rememories back to protect him (since both Angela and Kaito have issues of their own, and making sure Peter doesn't get in the way of what they fear will happen.).

I wanna know what ability he used! Looked like a more...noticable form of TK. =D

well techinally the Haitian is still working for the company and they must of found peter where ever he was after the explosion, and the Haitian wiped his memory to a point and gave him the necklace along with the "Pandora's Box" that I heard them talking about in the preview for next week to help him remember.

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Oh and in the previews the guy who mentions the box with all peter's memories says that "He" made it. could it be the Haitian?

I have a feeling that this has something to do with Mrs. Petrelli... on the rooftop of Isaac's Loft, Mr. Nakamura asked Angela "what have you done to Protect your children" (its not exact words but.. its something along that line..)

Well.. maybe this is Angela Petrellis way of giving back to her neglected son.. to protect him... near the end of the first season we know that the Haitian works with Angela, maybe taking away peters memories and putting him halfway around the world.. she thinks that she will save him.. to be like claire at school, to not stand out..

the necklace thing tho, I think is a hint that the Haitian is leaving behind, just like he was suppose erase claire's memories, he didnt because he knows that it is important that she didnt... he did erase the thoughts of peter but left a clue so he can find his way back...

Heres a thought:
Peter loses control and can't use any of the other abilities he has as hes trying to stop himself from exploding. We know this from how to stop an exploding man, nathan comes they both fly really high up peter explodes. In company man ted lost control of his ability though on a much smaller scale than peter does. Its possible that the result of peter exploding leads him to not remember anything plus its also highly possible that peter crashed into the ocean after exploding. Who knows how long he was out for afterward or how long it was until someone found him on land or floating about. At the end of fallout peter has a dream that hes the bomb and slips into a coma like state for 2 weeks, imagine what going nuclear did to him.

ok but that doesn't explain the haitian's necklace.

What if it's not the haitians necklace and Peter has gone back in time since he shuold have Hiro's power. After the explosion, his powers go haywire and he can't control them. He could have ended up back in the time of the original 9 and attained a necklace of his own or stolen it from one of them..still dosen't quite explain how he got in the crate though. worth a shot

What if he put himself in the crate and erased his own memory using the Haitians powers, but used the necklace to sort of remember what he wanted to remember.. anyone?

Peter's Predicament, How he may have got there

First of all, forgive me if I'm stating the obvious, rambling or being stupid. It happens a lot.

So, as we all know, at the end of Four Months Later, our favourite murse Mr. Petrelli is found by three Irishmen (one of whom has a London accent for some reason) half-naked, handcuffed and unable to remember his name or anything else.

Any sensible person would now either be asking themselves "Well why's he in there?" or "Don't I have anything better to do with my time?" Well if you're reading this then you don't so you might as well read my theory.

As Peter is handcuffed it's probably fair enough to say that he didn't get there by accident, or by himself. So someone must have put him there. Now, if we look at the necklace he's wearing as well as the fact he's lost his memory, there's only one real conclusion: Peter was put there by none other than the Haitian Sensation!

The real question is, why would the Haitian put him in there and wipe his memory? Of all the mysterious characters in the show, he's probably one of the most difficult to understand or predict. Any theories why he might have put him there though, trying to think of one's hurting my tiny brain...

I think one of the reasons is if you were the bomb could you live with that? I mean i don't think so. I'm betting that peter is bad for a bit and he meets up with another hero that he knows and it jogs his memory, also it seems from the converstaion that Nathan and Claire had, they think hes dead but thats just what I think

There have been more than a few threads devoted to what would happen to Peter if he meet the haitian. The loss of memory could have just been a result of the overload of his abilities. Anything else is speculation.. I was pretty curious as to how he got there... If other people with abilities some how found him / abducted him. This is 4 months later, Peter could have amassed quite an arsenal of abilities by now.

I have no clue why the Haitian did what he did to Peter, let alone why he gave him his necklace.

it would certainly look like the Haitian's work & time will tell if pete has got his ability, personally i think he has to have got it. if his dna re-sequences itself to match the other, then i reckon that is instinctive, nowt to do with remembering. now can he do the mind wipe to himself ? maybe but why the deuce would he want to do that?

i reckon pete explodes falls into the atlantic, probably drowns a fair few times & then the Haitian gets him. maybe wipes his mind to get rid of all that, merciful n all that. Or he wipes his mind so he's not so hung up on his people, or just to make him forget about his hair ! personally i reckon pete is gonna be taking over charles deveaux's place in the 9 , and this is sorta training. or perhaps im waaaay off.

rad: nice idea , but if pete started to time travel , i'd think it would suck so soon after he blows up , well i cant see them doing that yet.

Let's not forget who the Haitian ultimately worked for. It wasn't Mr. Bennet.

My guess is that Angela knows he's alive. That's why she's ready to "write him off" but Nathan is holding out hope, unless of course he knows something, and he planted those pics.

so those guys were from cork ? hahah, not tom cruise in far & away bad or brad pitt in the devils own but, bad..

petes gonna take charles deveaux place in this 9 that was mentioned. this is training or some such.

That an interesting take, seeing as it seems that those who made up the Nine origianlly must have been pretty powerful(abilities wise)

Maybe Claude's back?

I was really surprised to see that Peter was the one who was in Ireland. I have a feeling that the Haitian is involved with Peter being missing, but maybe Claude has something to do with it too?

I was also thinking the Haitian was involved someway with Peter being locked up, due to the necklace that Peter was wearing was identical to the one that the Haitian wears. As to why he was shipped off to Ireland and left for anybody to find is quite a mystery to me.

My original thought was that after exploding, Peter fell down into the ocean, was rescued by a cargo ship, and then amnesic Peter accidentally killed someone with his powers and was either locked in the container or locked himself in the container to prevent anyone else from getting killed by his powers. But the necklace...it had to have come from somewhere!

My theory: After the explosion, Peter falls to the earth, heals, and gets found by the Haitian who reveals the whole shebang to him. Over the next couple months, they conspire together and decide upon a plan that involves wiping Peter's mind and sending him to Ireland for reasons that will eventually be revealed to us.

In other words, Peter kidnapped himself.

Wow, deep thoughts with Tex... lol! I love it though. That's a weird thought...



I guess, I don't understand why we're all assuming it is the Haitian's work. I mean... Peter can't remember things, but then again, if he truly couldn't remember, would he even be able to use his powers? See, remember when Claude was training him? He told Peter to remember what he felt when he used all the powers. So, if Peter has no memory, Peter has no powers?

Ok, couldn't it just be selective amnesia? I mean, when the body goes through trauma, doesn't the brain forget or black out certain things, to protect itself? So... nuclear explosion might qualify as trauma... lol

Since it's all speculation, maybe he can manifest some stuff as an involuntary reaction?

I think the Haitian has much higher moral standards than to stay with Angela Petrelli... Nathan said it loud and clear: "You're evil, mom." I think the Haitian's doing this to protect him. The Irish guys seem to not know exactly what they're in for, but I'm thinkin' they'll understand eventually, what with this "identity box" and all.

It's going to be HARD though! Peter forgot EVERYTHING, even his own name! And the Haitian's power, as far as we know, can't be undone. What does the box contain? Hmm...

I agree, it's probably the Haitian's doing as he is still working for Mama Petrelli probably. From what I've read, Mama Petrelli might have more to do with events that happened in this first episode than we think.

Hopefully they'll reveal her power before they kill her off. I was REALLY hoping we'd get to see or find out Kaito Nakamura's powers before he died. Hopefully we'll find out next episode or in flashbacks. Otherwise it would be a really cheap way to get rid of such an important character with such a cheezy death scene (how many times have we seen the falling over the roof scene before? hmmm ...).

My theory: Peter made a deal with the company after the explosion - he'll give up his memory and work for the company in exchange for Nathan's health to be restored to the way it was before the explosion. So someone with Linderman-like power did this and then wipe out Nathan and Peter's memory. So now Nathan regains his health but thinks that Peter is dead (although he stubbornly insists that Peter is still alive) while Peter can't remember who he is. Nathan, however, starts to remember what really happened to him and it is occasionally reflected in the mirror. The necklace that he wears around his neck is a representation of the contract that he made with the company.

Thats not what Claude said. He told Pete to cut them out and forget about them, but Pete felt he had to remember them.

I don't see The Haitian giving his necklace to anyone, knowing what it means to him (explored in the GN). Except if Peter killed The Haitian, or The Haitian gave Peter a copy, to remind him that The Haitians power is a great responsibility.

First of all, there are so many intricate details that the writers could use to tweak the answers to the questions we have all been asking (what actually happened to Peter in the previous 4 months and who put him in the metal crate and why?).

But, this is what we can gather from this episode:
-From the conversation they had, it seems like Claire and Nathan think Peter is actually dead (which is kind of weird in itself as both Claire & Nathan have seen him come back to life numerous times, and even Nathan was okay for Peter to be the bomb originally, because he knew Peter could regenerate and survive exploding).
-We don't really know about Mrs. Petrelli. She does not have a very good track record of telling the truth, so she could be hiding the fact that she knows Peter is still alive. But this is just speculation.
-We know that three Irishman (with weird Irish accents) were looking for a particular crate which contained iPods. We don't really know much about these men, so we can't speculate their ties with the Organization or anyone else.
-We know Peter does not remember who he is, what has happened, or the fact that he has special abilities. The electric bolt (or whatever it was) seemed to be pure instinct as the Irishmen were preparing to beat up Peter because he was in there rather than a bunch of iPods (although the logic of the Irishmen does not make much sense: why would someone steal a bunch of iPods and then handcuff themselves half naked in the container that had the iPods in them?). This further backs up the fact that the Irishmen must have been looking to steal the container of iPods (or at the very minimum, the Irishmen thought they were going there to steal the container of iPods).

Based upon this, I feel that perhaps Mrs. Petrelli ordered Peter's memory to be erased so that he would not be able to explode again (how many times would it take Peter exploding for him to finally have control over Ted's special ability?). Obviously she ordered the Haitian to do this, and he did. However, he is a shady character and you do not really know whose side he is on at any given time. After this, would involve even more speculation than what I already have used. But we could assume that either: the Haitian went against the rest of Mrs. Petrelli's orders (whatever they could have been) and put Peter in a crate that would eventually find its way to New York --OR-- did exactly what Mrs. Petrelli ordered and put Peter in a crate that would eventually find its way to New York.

I'm anxious for next Monday to see what unfolds with the Peter storyline...

I know (or think i know) for one thing that the Haitian made him forget, and the writers obviously gave us that tip (cuz of the Haitian's necklace), looked like the Irish gang didn't know they would find a person in a container, which makes me think that the Irish gang will take Peter with them, but if this is willingly i dont know.. But what i also wonder is, who told the Haitian to make Peter forget and important.. why? and also HOW did he find Peter? Someone must have know, where was Nathan? im guessing the explosing threw them both miles apart

Well its a safe bet (albeit not a guaranteed bet) that the Haitian is the one responsible for Peter's amnesia because of the necklace.

Logically, Peter would have had his abilities temporarily removed if he was in the presence of the Haitian, which means he wouldn't have been able to take the Haitian's ability.

As far as why Peter would be wearing the necklace? Who knows. The show has made it a point to show the helix in every episode in some way, shape, or form, making it a iconic symbol for the series overall. However, it seems that Season 2 will be making the meaning of the helix more important but in what fashion exactly?

At the moment we know that the helix goes as far back as Fuedal Japan, as it was the symbol used by Takezo Kensei, a symbol that Ando believed meant "Godsend". In the present the symbol is seen throughout Chandra Suresh's work, is worn as a necklace by the Haitian, is tattoed on Jessica's shoulder, and was painted & drawn over and over again by Isaac Mendez Yet we also see the symbol in Molly's drawings suggesting something dark and evil. Why would the word "Godsend" be seen with evil unless the evil person or persons involved see themselves as superior a la Magneto and his Brotherhood of Evil Mutants.

Molly's drawings suggest the helix may be a scar on someone's face as it is present in between the evil eyes depicted. Similarly, the helix was marked in red over the faces of Kaito Nakamura and Angela Petrelli suggesting the same person or persons is involved in the plot to take out the mysterious group of 9.

I imagine they think Peter got in a fight with his buddies and they locked him in there.