I thought the episode was awesome... except for the whole kaito/hooded man thing.

my first problem was... i though kaito was like, this bad ****** warrior. with a power. But he got taken out so easily.

Secondly, the person that took him out, for kaito to be so afraid of him, must have been even more bad ****** with some really cool powers. But all he does is tackle him off the building. (kinda weak)

and third... I really hate that they keep him hidden, like they did with sylar in season 1. Like... they played that card already.

So... what's that deal with those two?

I am inclined to disagree with you here. I would not consider it weak if someone tried to kill me by grabbing me and jumping off a building. Especially if I was the only one that ended up on the ground. Is it really weak to tackle someone off of a roof and then disappear before hitting the ground? I think not. I know I wouldn't want to run into someone that could do that, on a roof.



If you haven't noticed, the "generations" of heroes have been kept as a mystery for the entire first season. Do you really expect them to put a spotlight on all of it in the first episode of the new season? Wouldn't that sort of defeat the purpose of every other show in the season, considering this season is tagged "Generations"?



My questions is this...

How did Kaito's 'assassin' disappear before hitting the ground? Was it flight? Teleportation? Or was it something much more obscure like rapid cellular reorganization to become something microscopic? Or maybe the 'assassin' turned himself into a Bug of some sort and flew away. I am speculating quite a bit, but by no means do I pretend to know the answer.

Dude, Kaito says it to Ando... to fight the hooded guy he needed a sword, maybe his power is only present when he has a sword with him... In season one when he pulled out his sword to train hiro you could see that he changed from his normal self... he became a warrior of sorts... fast with his sword

See, that's the thing though. The frame and the hand of the attacker look like it belongs to a woman. They clearly has someone specific in mind when hiring the body double because the camera has this lingering focus on her hand, which is curvy and pointy.

Wasn't the power of resurrection tossed around on the boards towards the end of last season but no-one ended up with the ability? Maybe Kaito's just a really good swordsman so he prefers to use swords to defend himself, but his actual power is to come back to life?

As for how easily Kaito was killed, you have to remember that Kaito knew this person, so it's very likely the killer knew how to overcome his superpower (whatever that may be) by using his/her own superpower (whatever that may be). We'll probably find out in time.

As for keeping the killer hooded, it may be for the same reasons as season one - the person isn't cast, or they want to build suspense and make us form all kinds of wild theories.

If his power were to come back to life, he wouldn' have woried about dieing, and the assasin probaby would have known his power, and wouldn't have bothered killing him.

Kaito is a warrior. All he had to do to stay on the roof was squat low enough that he would hit the wall, instead of flipping over it.

if the assasin is one of the 12 (now 8) from the council, then he would probably know kaito's power. i highly doubt he would try and kill someone that can come back to life by pushing them off a building.

Interesting.. Thats not bad.

Let's pretend we can remember last season...when Kaito says to Hiro 'that he had been wondering when someone in his family would 'ascend''. That means for an SG to appear, which also means Kaito hadn't. So no he had no power. Mr. Midas touch also stated it was a group (company was his word) of people who were normal and people with powers to help those with powers live as a benefit to society. That means some of the originals had no powers, a la Kaito. Kaito certainly a badass swordsman...you will find many Japanese executives are, had no power.

As far as the scene itself...it is comparable to Molly Walker's parents deaths. It serves as an introduction to the villian, it wasn't intended as a final showdown, or a complete biographical display. This is a drama series, what would be the drama of getting to know the villian from top to bottom in his first four minute scene? If anything this show is revising the book on drama, would it have been as dramatic if we not only met Linderman in Chapter 1: Genesis but also found out he had a power, what that power was, that he headed a company who bagged and tagged or eliminated every SG they could find, AND that he had engineered every relationship and interaction that we would see throughout the rest of Volume 1???

Give me TV that isn't dumbed down for mass consumption anyday, I'll take it.

Agreed--something just didn't seem right about that scene. So maybe Kaito was really on a plane headed back to Japan like he said he was going to be and it was Candace on the roof?

And I don't think he needed a sword, he was just getting Ando out of harms way.

But why is he just spending the entire day hanging out on the rooftop waiting for someone to show up and kill him? And if that's "just how it's done" when you get the secret death code, then why wasn't Angela still up there as well?

Actually that wouldn't be that unusual, consider that Kaito is Japanese and he lives by Japanese cultural norms. The norm in this case would face ones fate (death in this case) head on acknowledging that this is the way it is. I see nothing wrong with Kaito facing what was to come in the way he did understanding that the writers knew this.

Well from what we saw he must have spent many hours on this roof only waiting to be killed while he actually intented to leave as he said to angela and suggested her to do the same.

In that case, it doesn't make sense to say that he stayed up there to wait for his death cause he stated himself that he doesn't wanna die already in the form "I'm gonna fly back to japan tonight" so he can avoid being killed.

As about the enemy, I think we all already know that it is Kane.
However, since he is introduced in the first episode in the past, they obviously let him show up hooded so new viewers doesn't get messed up immediately.

On the other hand, they already stated that we will see Kanes true power in the second episode so I guess we will see him revealed when he attacks angela.

I'm mostly excited about this attack/battle because as we know from the trailers she survives the attack!
That could mean that she is able either to fight back or to flee using her own power and that is something I'm looking into since season 1 already. ^^ See her power and what it exactly is.

I know that I speculated like many others about it a lot thinking she is a precog, thought through the things that happened it seems she has a other power instead. Otherwise she would avoid the attack as also would already inform kaito about who the attacker is since she would had found out already.

I am not sure how long he waited, but it did seem a while. Did Ando have Kensei's sword? It did look like it. And if you rely on NY transportation, who is to say that where the sword was, and where the rooftop was wasn't across the city from each other?

Also I think we will see his power, in flashbacks. I don't believe it was Candance playing him. I think that Niki took her out for a while.

He is a high ranking business man in Japan. Sending Ando to get the sword is his right. If he did move on, where & how would Ando find him?

Still wonderng what it is about that one rooftop though!

Oh and the car below... Was it a Versa or just a car there?

I have to disagree with you. I think he sent Ando for a sword because that's the only way he could get Ando to leave him. He was trying to protect Ando, who would've been killed if he'd stayed and tried to defend Kaito.

As for Kaito having resurrection power, or eternal life, or similar powers...it seems unlikely, but I really hope that it turns out to be true! I don't want to lose him. And poor Hiro! Think how he's going to take it when he gets back from feudal Japan to discover that the father he's just learned to appreciate was killed by a "bad guy." Sad Hiro.

I understand what the OP is saying after all the hype the Guy worse than Sylar has received i was expecting a TK choke or a bolt of energy

Did anybody notice that the marks on Angela's and Kaito's picture are different?
The same helix but they looked as if they were drawn by 2 different people..

Maybe Kaito wanted to see which of the remaining 9 wanted to kill the rest.
It could be someone who was thought to be dead and has come back for revenge.
Maybe he stayed on the rooftop cause he wanted to die?

Angela: So you think one of us send these?

Kaito: Yes, for the pain we have caused, the people we have killed. There's no end to our suffering. I sought redemption by helping Hiro fulfill his destinty to save the world.


Kaito had to have had a power, we all know he was one of the founding members of the company.
"The company formed 30 years ago with a group of like-minded individuals, ordinary men and women who were gifted with extraordinary powers."

Theres another quote said by Kaito that got me thinking.
"For close to 30 years, I have seen my son as a disappointment, a dreamer who exelled at nothing. It was not until Hiro began this quest, that I saw his strength, courage, and wisdom. There is a legacy...that I am meant to hand down to him.. No... I will wait for Hiro, I am a man of patience."

any thoughtsas to what he was referring to?

This is not how he expected to die, remember? Maybe being on a roof would have been a good thing if he were attacked by anoother one of the nine.

Getting Ando out of the way does seem plausible. I would have liked to see Kaito with a sword though.

Well not only his murderer was unexpected to him, also the timing cause after he saw the picture he said not that he will die in the next 24 hours or between, he said he will die in 24 hours.
Through this he was sure he can avoid it by flying back to japan this evening. Then the hooded guy came when he was expecting Ando to come back unexpected earlier.

If he would have a power that channels through a sword or weapon, he would always carry one with him no matter where he goes so I think more that he wanted a sword to defend himself either because his ability was passive or because he actually had none. :/

I think Kaito knows a lot more about this mysterious guy and thats probably why he didnt fight that easy? I hated that they kept the guy in the dark (but it makes it extra exciting so i guess its ok xd) the guy seems to be invisible or something, cuz when Ando looked over, he only saw Kaito dead and the guy was gone, he liked dissapeared in thin air or something?

It wasn't Candace... Candace is now on the WB show "Reaper" so I'm sure they're just going to say she died

maybe he was pulling an obi wan , letting the attacker kill him - " if you strike me down i will become more powerful than you could imagine" , that sort of thing?

i'm edging slowly to thinking maybe he didnt have a power. or maybe the powers cancelled each other out ? or kaito knew he had no chance to survive ?

a lot of maybes i know...

I think it was Claire's new flying friend from school that killed Kaito. Same body type and they had on the same clothes. If his only power is flying, it would expain the way he killed him.

Maybe it was the cockroach?