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Go! Go! Hiro!
thats pretty freaky. so whats the deal with mr. suckupthevirus?
Darth Neo
QUOTE (Go! Go! Hiro! @ Oct 1 2007, 10:15 PM) *
thats pretty freaky. so whats the deal with mr. suckupthevirus?



The Twins are BORING!

I only forsee Sylar stealing their abilities to kill...
nychulo3
So can alejandro absorb it from not just her...but anyone around that is affected by it?
Jumper
QUOTE (Go! Go! Hiro! @ Oct 1 2007, 10:15 PM) *
thats pretty freaky. so whats the deal with mr. suckupthevirus?

Well think about it, the ability both granted the twis a set of powers. Since Mia got the virus her brother of course was granted the ability to cure it so they dont kill anyone by mistake. He is there to counter her for when she uses it.
CrewWolf
He can't be curing it, otherwise why would Maya still have it? blink.gif
Hawth26
It seems that Maya has no control over her powers unless her brother is with her, obviously. So like, he takes up her power but he cannot/will not use it so Maya won't have to suffer.

I think they're awesome. I can't wait to see what happens when they get to the US! OOhhh I'm so excited! laugh.gif
Jumper
QUOTE (CrewWolf @ Oct 1 2007, 10:19 PM) *
He can't be curing it, otherwise why would Maya still have it? blink.gif

He takes it when she expells it, he cant take her ability away he is there to control it sort of.
qfactor
QUOTE (Hawth26 @ Oct 1 2007, 10:20 PM) *
It seems that Maya has no control over her powers unless her brother is with her, obviously. So like, he takes up her power but he cannot/will not use it so Maya won't have to suffer.

I think they're awesome. I can't wait to see what happens when they get to the US! OOhhh I'm so excited! laugh.gif


I think thier awesome also, I wondered about them; and it seems he can reverse the effects also ,by absorbing it; which is cool.
Darth Neo
QUOTE (Jumper @ Oct 1 2007, 10:21 PM) *
He takes it when she expells it, he cant take her ability away he is there to control it sort of.


Then why didnt he bring all the people in the truck back to life?
hal0hal0
QUOTE (Darth Neo @ Oct 1 2007, 06:23 PM) *
Then why didnt he bring all the people in the truck back to life?


They had already been dead for however long before he caught up.
Jumper
QUOTE (Darth Neo @ Oct 1 2007, 10:23 PM) *
Then why didnt he bring all the people in the truck back to life?

because they probably didnt know about it until now.
leilanirl
I think he's like John Cofe ("Like the drink, only not spelled the same." Too bad I can't remember how he spelled it.)
Go! Go! Hiro!
there wasn't enough time to bring all of those people back. AND we saw how tired he got after dealing with one victim and bringing them back to life.
CrewWolf
So dispensing a killer illness is Maya's power? As in, the disease is part of her rather than hosted within her?
qfactor
QUOTE (Go! Go! Hiro! @ Oct 1 2007, 10:27 PM) *
there wasn't enough time to bring all of those people back. AND we saw how tired he got after dealing with one victim and bringing them back to life.


That's true, it took all he had just to help his sister and bring the lady back; this show never disapoints me.
Hawth26
QUOTE (CrewWolf @ Oct 1 2007, 10:27 PM) *
So dispensing a killer illness is Maya's power? As in, the disease is part of her rather than hosted within her?


Yeah that makes sense! I like that idea...
Go! Go! Hiro!
Im pretty sure they'll be with Mohinder throughout the season.
bozinka
That's the wierdest thing. I don't think it's a virus, but then again, I can't think of a better way to describe it either. And how the heck does that work, with Alejandro! It's like he counter acts her illness, or does he absorb it? It's so odd. I just don't even know what to think about it yet.
ordinaryhero
I think Maya's brother either
1. Takes half of the sickness so when he's not there she has to have all of it and it overwhelms her
2. acts as some sort of agent that nuetralizes the power sort of like the antibody in a way
Priscilla
What I'd like to know is what triggers Maya's power? Is it fear, a defense mechanism, or some other kind of emotional reaction? What sets Maya off and why can't she stop it when she does not want it to happen at all. She obviously did not want to hurt her friend in this ep because she told her to run. I want to know the source that sets Maya's deadly power into motion.
civilian
QUOTE (CrewWolf @ Oct 1 2007, 10:19 PM) *
He can't be curing it, otherwise why would Maya still have it? blink.gif


He doesn't really cure it. Maya's power is in her emotions. When she's feeling too emotional/pained she freaks out and this translates into deadly tears. Her emotions are then projected onto nearby people with the exception of her twin who is immune to it. He simply calms her down (I guess that's his ability or part of it) and when she calms and reverts back to normal, so do the people she affected.
Dr. Chaos
Hopefully the fella is a lil more versatile than that.

I want to see what it would look like to suck up Cancer and other various ailments and diseases.
Radio Oasis
I know Heros isn't influenced by other comics, but prehaps its like Cloack and Dagger from Marvel Comics, or Yin and Yang from Chinese philosphy. Maya is influenced by entrophy, death, darkness, while her brother is influenced by life.
Priscilla
QUOTE (civilian @ Oct 1 2007, 11:55 PM) *
He doesn't really cure it. Maya's power is in her emotions. When she's feeling too emotional/pained she freaks out and this translates into deadly tears. Her emotions are then projected onto nearby people with the exception of her twin who is immune to it. He simply calms her down (I guess that's his ability or part of it) and when she calms and reverts back to normal, so do the people she affected.


Good theory. I like it. It makes sense with what we've seen of Maya. She has always been emotional when her power erupted.
civilian
QUOTE (Priscilla @ Oct 2 2007, 01:06 AM) *
Good theory. I like it. It makes sense with what we've seen of Maya. She has always been emotional when her power erupted.


Well I kinda got that from him singing to her while he was trying to calm her and from a hint Dania gave us at the World Tour when she said about her character, "I feel too much"
theJollity
QUOTE (Dr. Chaos @ Oct 1 2007, 09:58 PM) *
Hopefully the fella is a lil more versatile than that.

I want to see what it would look like to suck up Cancer and other various ailments and diseases.


Same here. He looked exhausted after 'fixing' Maya.
The twins really intrigue me, but their plotline is moving the slowest right now.
At least they revealed her power inthe 2nd episode biggrin.gif Progress!
Lady Heather
QUOTE (Radio Oasis @ Oct 1 2007, 09:01 PM) *
I know Heros isn't influenced by other comics, but prehaps its like Cloack and Dagger from Marvel Comics, or Yin and Yang from Chinese philosphy. Maya is influenced by entrophy, death, darkness, while her brother is influenced by life.


Yin/yang is what I had in mind too.

And a certain X-Files episode as well...remember the black oil?
Tokenx
I don't think that his ability is to suck up powers. I think that it's more of an emotion-suppressant.
Right as he finished calming his sister down, there was a little of the black tear stuff coming out of his eyes, which is probably a sign that he can be affected by the virus just like any other person can.
Eleo
I think his power is that he naturally absorbs whatever poison she is releasing. When he held her hands you could see his eyes briefly turn black before they turned back to normal. I think his power will be immunity to toxins and the ability to absorb them. Maybe if this sickness that affected Molly, the Haitian, gets widespread, he'll be able to suck it out of all the heroes?
Dr. Chaos
QUOTE (theJollity @ Oct 2 2007, 01:37 AM) *
He looked exhausted after 'fixing' Maya.

Aye.

The catch-22, he can't cure everyone without eventually killing himself.

Thats what I'm guessing.
Interned
Hay there Heroes fans! This is my first post so here goes..

I have a couple of thoughts on the twins & there abilities. My first was that perhaps they are Equally cursed & blessed similar to the yin and yang theory!

The other only relates to only the brother. As we have now been shown duplicate powers are more than just possible(2 flyers & 2 selfhealers). So it is possible that he has the same healing ability as Mr. Linderman!

I'd like to know wot other ppl think of this?
Faunus
The twins are great. I really love what the producers are doing with them and I think they'll both have a much, much bigger and important plot line later in the show. Both there powers are very mysterious...but who's aren't in Heroes? lol
doomguarder
Just my thoughts on the twins

The twins talents are not interdependent but complimentary. They can be used separately, but work together for greatest effect.

Maya manifests the black tar. There can be several interpretations of what this goop actually is. A couple thoughts: 1. Disease or virus, 2. Physical manifestation of her feelings of fear and torment; but either way she is a sphere of death when she gets upset. Sadly she seems to get upset easily.

Alejandro developed a talent when sharing the womb that would allow him to survive. My best bet for him is a hyper immune system and the ability to draw infection/invaders out of another’s body. Draw them into himself and let his system stop them.

Yes, I think he calms Maya down, just as any close sibling can do in times of stress, but his talent is not only for her. These two are gonna be very important as we move forward. No I do not see them as Sylar fodder or fodder for the new baddie.


Of course this is speculation
fARSIGHT
I just thought of something when I saw tonight's episode...

The Haitian was sick with Shanti's virus, and he was in Haiti... It is not revealed where he caught the virus from, or whether he was sick before he arrived to Haiti...

Maya lives in the Domincian Republic, according to Heroeswiki...

And here's a map of the location of the two country:
http://www.definitivecaribbean.com/images/...aribbeanmap.jpg

Coincidence? blink.gif

And it is known that some viruses, while it can spread freely among the individuals of a species, cannot spread between individuals of another species, but contact it directly from the source species (ex: the Avian flu so far can spread between chickens no problem, but humans who has the Avian flu cannot spread it to other humans... Coming into contact with a bird or its parts/residues is still the only way to catch this disease)

Given this show theme of nature having a purpose in directing evolution... Maybe Maya is nature's way in keeping a certain population in check, and her brother is nature's way of keeping Maya in check...

These are all just guesses of mine, but the map of the two countries really convinced me something of this sort may be going on...
Pr4t4
QUOTE (CrewWolf @ Oct 2 2007, 10:19 AM) *
He can't be curing it, otherwise why would Maya still have it? blink.gif



yeah... i don't think he was curing it... I think it's more like undoing the sickness/curse/whatever-you-wanna-call-it-sickness
miloo409
I couldnt understand all these Maya &Alejandro's storyline unsure.gif I mean ,whats Alejandro's ability?! sad.gif
Pr4t4
QUOTE (miloo409 @ Oct 2 2007, 11:36 PM) *
I couldnt understand all these Maya &Alejandro's storyline unsure.gif I mean ,whats Alejandro's ability?! sad.gif



read the post right above yours ^^

that's my theory...
richual
is it ok to call them the ying-yang twins lol. I think he stabilizes her power. Since he is immune to it and stronger emotional he takes away her pain and her power and puts it on himself. They might have not shown it yet but maybe he can do the same as her (his eyes did get black) but since he is the stronger sibling he can control it a little more. They better hope he does not die that would equal big trouble.

also i think his blood is a cure and combine it with Mohinder's you won't need a check-up for a few years lol
outtasync
My take on the twins has to do more with proximity. When they are near each other, her power is negated by his. if they get too far apart, she radiates some death aura or sickness. When he gets near his power allows him to absorb it all.

So it isnt as much about being scared or hurt as much as being seperated.

They both dont freak out unless they are getting far apart. then they get all scared and crying.
trendel
Also, it seems that she can affect a large number of people. From the ARG, as well as the truck, the number of people she affects perhaps affects how hard it is for Alejandro to absorb/whatever he does.

Also, for my two cents, I think Maya is destined to kill the big bad guy of this season. Perhaps foreshadowing when the healer lady said "You have enough black in you to kill the devil" (forgive my poor memory onthe wording). Hmm?
GOPEANUTZ
I think her brother absorbs the virus from spreading or something like that, he's stopping the virus before it kills, but he cant make the virus in her dissapeare, that why they want to go find Chandra (or in that case Mohinder)

I did notice that he kinda becomes weak' when he absorbed the virus, which is understandable, but think about if Maya keeps on getting gets sad or anything and the virus is about to spread he needs to keep absorbing, he would just be dropped dead tired..
SteveGotJuice
The way the showed it, Alejandro can absorb and reverse Maya's ability to kill, which she seems unable to control.

My bet is that Sylar will figure out how they work (that's his ability, after all), and kill Alejandro, taking his ability so as to control Maya. She'll be at Sylar's mercy then, because without him she won't be able to stop killing. He can basically make her do anything he wants then, including luring heroes who think he's dead into traps.
katlas77
While he was singing to her, he had direct eye contact with her. Their hand's seemed to be phasing as he took it into himself. His eyes got balck also and then they were normal as it faded out.

She also knew it was starting, cause she called him to come, and told Nadia to run.

I also think the people in the truck were dead to long as she didn't seemto have the stuff on her face when Alejandro got to her. And she was still upset... makes me wonder if it fades after it "does its job" or what?
gemetric
QUOTE (katlas77 @ Oct 2 2007, 01:47 PM) *
While he was singing to her, he had direct eye contact with her. Their hand's seemed to be phasing as he took it into himself. His eyes got balck also and then they were normal as it faded out.

She also knew it was starting, cause she called him to come, and told Nadia to run.

I also think the people in the truck were dead to long as she didn't seemto have the stuff on her face when Alejandro got to her. And she was still upset... makes me wonder if it fades after it "does its job" or what?


I dont think so everyone in the truck still had the "black tears" I think Alejandro actually has to use his power to make it go away. I think he has proximity just like Maya but instead of it being the "Black Tears" its "the cure"
NoControl
QUOTE (SteveGotJuice @ Oct 2 2007, 09:45 AM) *
The way the showed it, Alejandro can absorb and reverse Maya's ability to kill, which she seems unable to control.

My bet is that Sylar will figure out how they work (that's his ability, after all), and kill Alejandro, taking his ability so as to control Maya. She'll be at Sylar's mercy then, because without him she won't be able to stop killing. He can basically make her do anything he wants then, including luring heroes who think he's dead into traps.


thats what i was thinking to because i was watching an
interveiw with dania and she was saying
that her and sylar meet up for a bit
dcg
The brother is just like one of the old (guest) Star Trek caracters. Her name was Jem and she was being trained in using her own healing abilities to save a world. When she took someone injury or sickness it became her own and then she was able to expell it from her.

The sister I can do without. She is just winey. Definitely want them to keep the brother but I don't care one way or another about sissy.
kwister
personally feel since they're twins, their power somehow are "shared"?

also, i dont rly understand how alejandro managed t revive nadia as well... :/
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