If dude wasnt creepy enough, now he just comes over to her house and looks in her windows? I mean, sure, he wants her to read the book, but doesnt he realize how "stalker" he looks (since she probably hasnt volunteered her home address)? Freaky little sociopath stalker.

I think it's sorta stalkerish, but she should have known he might drop by... LoL.

Was it her front door, or window? I didn't look.. LoL.

Yeah his relationship with Claire is going to be super rushed and hes a creeper.

Yeah, West has to go. Very annoying. And a peeping tom at that.

But, who else thinks that if you were trying to "lay low", you'd get some curtains for your friggin house!?

~PP

She probably should have been more careful.

I think West needs to stay, though... it's the one person Claire could have to talk to...

I think he's lonely and needs someone to identify with, and Claire is the only person he knows who is like him so he is unusually drawn to her. Stalker, maybe, but it's understandable to some extent.

Agreed. West is going to be needed by Claire. She just needs to look up in order to realize it. And some schools have directories. It wouldn't be all that hard to get the address.

I agree, I think it makes the story more interesting because you don't what his agenda is, he obviously already knew about Claire.

Yeahh. He prolly noticed the signs and stuff.

But Claire needs someone, and the girly side of me is screaming, "Oooh! Romance!" LoL.

I just think they need to cut down his screentime. He's really annoying, IMO.

I was sick of him after his first scene. I hope the writers aren't wanting the audience to like this dude...

Well, Claire's gonna give him an earful next episode- considering that he may or may not have seen her lob a good portion of her pinky toe off.

But he should stick around nonetheless- I wonder how Claire would react when she finds out what West can do.

And o'course the possibility of a romance is way to tempting for th script writers to ignore.

D: I like West.

Try to give the guy a chance before you go hating. LoL.

It's two episodes in. He may not have a strong plot just yet, but I'll bet the writers have something coming for this dood.

Also... I don't like him a ton... he's not my fav, but he is pretty damn interesting.

I think Claire's nerdy friend from the first season was easier to deal with... This new guy West is not only a bit psycho with his crazy night-time stalking, but he's just plain annoying...

I must admit, he is a bit bold...

I agree, I don't understand why people develop such a problem with certain characters so soon, it's really strange. At first it was Simone, then Candace and , now this guy.

West reminds me of Superman stalking Lois Lane outside her house in Superman Returns.
But that's a different case I think; since Superman just wanted to have a peek at Lois' new life and see if she still loves him.

I don't truly dislike any characters.

I just have a tendency to seek out the characters I feel are the most dynamic.

I don't like West much either. I think this stalking he is doing is way too creepy. He may be just curious though. West can't directly ask Claire so he tries to sneak around her house to find out info. on her. He may have good intentions but I do not like the way he is going about it. I agree that Clarie will certainly have a few words for him when she sees him and she won't play nice about it either.

I like the guy so far, but I do see why some people are saying he's acting like a stalker. The writers are pushing his story pretty quickly, but if they didn't some people would complain about that too. His graphic novel from last week sheds a different light on him. In the commentary last week Tim Kring said that they wanted him to appear sort of like Peter Pan when he was flying if that gives any more clues to how his character is goinmg rto play out. He's probably just very curious about Claire and eager to find someone else with an ability.

Yeah, but Peter Pan was just a boy.. This is a 17 year old male watching a 17 year old female through a window. Oooh, I can't wait for Mr. Bennet to catch him out there one night.

Why didn't she look up? Mr. Muggles was jumping up and down, barking, and looking up. Listen to Lassie, or in this case, Mr. Muggles! >=(


Armed with the Haitian. It'll be like Deja-vu. lol

Amen to that!

Seriously, they better make him a LOT more likable soon otherwise people are gonna get fed up with Claire's storyline/romance. He doesn't even know who Claire is and is trying to push all this crap on her.

I think all the haters will start to love him a little bit next episode when they start their romance and he is flying her up to the sign!

I love West. He seems to really want to be friends with Claire and let her know that it's OK to be herself around him. Claire can finally have a friend who understands her.

If you read the graphic novel, it really explains his character. He doesn't seem stalkerish in it. He's more curious and goes out on joy flights.

I still believe he's going to be more like a guardian to Claire, like Angel was to Buffy when that series started.

well I like him I dont think he is that much annoying

West seems to be the kind of guy who prances around acting like they know everything.

He's that "rebel" in high school who is just as scared as everyone else, but plays it off by being a jerk.

Truthfully, I think he's mega creepy. This is the second time he's just been staring in her window. If he didn't have powers, everyone would think he's creepy!

Bring back Zach!

I think he obviously didn't already know about her. He seemed incredibly shocked by what he saw.




I wouldn't bet on it. I might start changing my mind if he loses control and plummets into a volcano, or something, but until then I'll just keep hoping for a slow, painful death.

omg you hate him so much!

poor West there are many people who obviously HATE him

but it doesnt change the fact I like him

I didn't like West before, and I still don't like him, this episode did nothing to change that. He's very pushy with Claire, and he just doesn't seem like a good guy. Claire made it fairly obvious that she wasn't interested in him or his book, yet he feels the need to bring the book over anyways and then watch her for who knows how long through her window? Dude. Learn some respect.



Though we did learn something very important in that scene.

Mr.Muggles is now a confirmed alien.

Just because he stalks Claire, peaks through her window, talks at her at school, follows her at school, (probably thinks she's more special than the other classmates) doesnt make him a bad person.. not as bad as Sylar anyway.. I really cant say much about this character, other than i like him & there's more to know about him if we'd all give him the chance and be willing to see that there's maybe more to West then stalking, maybe he likes her + if Claire thought that he was stalking her, why didn't she say anything? People, this is a classic case of love, the whole stalking' is just a sidestory for the love that we yet have to see.. thats what i think anyway

i guess being cute excuses voyeurism. good to know

Apparently.

I haven't read the graphic novel yet, but from what I have seen on the show I just don't care for him.

Sylar, where are you? Here's a new power that is ripe for your taking, even though you can probably already fly using TK.

SINK YOUR TEETH IN

Hehe. Contrary to what some might believe about me, I do NOT hate this guy. I just find his whole stalker-routine very freaking creepy.

Sure, she might be special and he likes her and stuff. But that doesn't mean it's okay for him to hover outside her bedroom window at night like a peeping tom. If he wanted to get to know her, do it at school or maybe, I don't know...RING THE BELLand ask for her maybe?

I might come to like him because I quite liked his Robot or Alien thing in the first ep. The whole peepin Tom thing just set me off a bit. What is his deal?

Yeah, yeah. I'll go read the comic. Might change my mind a little. Though seriously, like someone said if he wasn't cute and had powers people would be totally freaked out. Just saying.

Claire probably did not give him her address, and it's not like she seemed that eager to make that nice with him in ep. 2 and don't tell me I'm such a hater. The only char I don't like is Niki, but who knows this season and it's not like I hated her. I just thought she was annoying.

Point is, if a guy is watching you late at night without you knowing from outside your house? Stalker! Or soon-to-be one if you didn't just happen to walk past and if he didn't just happen to fly-by and stopped to STARE at her in her BEDROOM, that kinda chalks him up as a stalker to me.

I seriously doubt it. It's just more "I'm a unique snowflake" stuff.



Is it just me that doesn't think he's cute. I mean, I'm not that way inclined in any case, but I can tell that, say, Peter's a good looking guy. West looks like someone's put his image into Photoshop and removed about half an inch from the middle of his face for a laugh.

Agreed...

As much as I could like West for his quirks, he's jumping into the "Zach" role a bit too soon, I honestly can't see so far why the writers expect us to believe that Claire is going to go nuts over this guy... so far all he's done is push her and pester her and follow her around.

Now, I don't know about anyone else, but if I have the hots for someone, I generally talk to them like... I don't know, a human being? Which for all his existentialist points on Robots and Aliens, West clearly has forgotton that Claire is.

By the way... this of course means that from my count, West has now stalked her concurrently for 2 days in a row now... oh yes, I feel the love there?

The fact that he is supposed to be playful like Peter Pan makes me not like this guy even more. It's not the character of West. But that actor just isn't pulling it off. I wanted him to stop talking from the first episode. He is very pushy. He's annoying. He's a peeping-tom. He stands in people's personal space when he doesn't know them. He has this wierd stare where it looks like he's trying to be really deep but comes of as creepy/overbearing. I think the casting people picked him because he's young and they thought he was good looking. Typical gen Y emo kid.

IMO Claire has been way too dismissive with this kid. He's been all in her business since day one. And she just brushes him off and let's him keep coming. The guy was watching her in the privacy of her own home through a window; and, I bet the next day in school she's defensive and dismissive again. Wow, I guess I am a little annoyed by Claire too. But there's love there. No love for West, though. Sorry, bra.

~PP

Well, he's not bad to look at. But wouldn't say he's hot or anything. I'm more for Ando (*licks*), Sylar (*Grins*), Mohinder (yummy) or this ses. 2 Peter (like the new haircut and badass-y.)

I go all over with what I find hot. Though right now asian people, nice.



Totally jumping into that role far too soon. You've known her how long? Though whose to say this happens the day after his whole creepy peepin tom thing. Maybe it's been a few days. Who knows.

Maybe he's just really bad at talking to a girl he likes and starts acting all whacky? But he really needs to remember she's a human being and a teenage girl.

I can't see how this develops into love, either. So, how did you two meet? Oh, he just stalked me until we became friends and then we started dating. *Big smile*

Maybe she'll think that what happened in Lizard was the only time and it was just accidental and won't find out about his former peeping.

*Shrugs*

We'll see.



Exactly. *Nods*

Maybe it's just me but I do not like people who I don't know and get all in my personal space. I like my personal space to be just that. And if she keeps on being all heh, that's great but I've gotta go... Not making me see any love for him.

She can't even cut of her toe in the privacy of her own home. Jeez. lol.

I never cared for Zach. Actually, I find West pretty interesting. West really reminds me of some of the guys I knew in high school. They weren't stalkers, just weird, awkward teen guys. I don't get the vibe that he's going to threaten Claire with a knife if she doesn't date him. I also didn't get the feeling he's looking in windows to see Claire taking a shower or something like that.

As I said before, the GN makes West less creepy. He's more curious and likes to fly around a lot.

Here's a definition from a medical dictionary. I don't think West is a voyeur.

Voyeurism ("Peeping Tom"): Voyeurism is a disorder that involves achieving sexual arousal by observing an unsuspecting and non-consenting person who is undressing or unclothed, and/or engaged in sexual activity. This behavior may conclude with masturbation by the voyeur. The voyeur does not seek sexual contact with the person he is observing. Other names for this behavior are "peeping" or "peeping Tom."

Zach? His name's West.

And I never said I thought that he was going to go all violent on her. Just the whole issues with the looking inside her window. I don't care that it was innocent or whatever, still invading her privacy no matter what ya say. Not gonna back down on that one.

Okay, so that wasn't a good word to call him. I don't always use the right words since English should be like my third language but it's more like my second because I suck at Danish and don't use Icelandic online.

Still, freaky stalker. If he stops that now that he's got her attention, I might just possibly stop calling him that. But he still at two diffrent ocassions totally invaded her privacy in her own home. Who would like that? Doubt her parents would be thrilled either, even if it was all very innocent.

I know who's who.

Zach was Claire's classmate in first season. A lot of people are p*ssed that Zach is off the show and view West as a replacement in second season. I can understand their frustration. It sucks when I character you like isn't on a show anymore.

I didn't care for Zach though, so I'm not experiencing the backlash against West. That's what I was referring to in my above post.

LOL, p*ssed gets filtered out.

The bugged me from the get-go. He's way too stereotypical as the "cute outcast/rebel".

You said: I don't think Zach is a voyeur. Which I thought was a mistake and you meant you didn't think West was a voyeur.

But if you really meant Zach, I never got that impression myself, because we never saw him hanging outside her window watching her with or without her knowledge. And I know who Zach is. I liked Zach. He was nice and kinda cute.

Didn't really see West as replacement for Zach at all. Totally diffrent vibes.

I see where you're coming from. Someone peeking through my window would be disturbing if I didn't know his intentions.

After reading last weeks graphic novel (it's all from West's point of view), it put that whole scene in context. He didn't strike me as stalking her in the GN.

The second looking in the window didn't freak me out though. It looked like he was there to drop off the book and since he was coming unannounced, he probably wanted to make sure he wasn't knocking on the door at a bad time. It was probably like watching a train wreck seeing Claire chop off her toe.

I've had surprise visits from friends before and sometimes they'll check to see if I'm home or even awake by listening for music or taking a peek through the window before knocking. I remember one friend really freaked me out when I saw him staring back at me when I looked out the window. It was totally innocent though. He just wanted to make sure I was up for company before knocking.



It was just a typo. It's been corrected. Thanks for pointing it out.

I agree. I get totally different vibes from the two of them, but I've seen other posts calling West a replacement or that the relationship is being forced too quickly after Zach. A lot of West hate going around.

People keep saying this. How did it? He was still watching her through her bedroom window when she didn't know he was there. Would you honestly be happy if someone did that to you?



I think the key word there is "friends", as opposed to "person that you've specifically told that you don't want to come round to your house".

True. Would freak me more out since I live on the second (if you don't count the basement) floor. For years I was freaked out about that guy on The original Buffy Movie with Kristy Swanson. Man, i hate the thought of someone floating outside my bedroom window. Yikes.

And I guess, I can see your point on the second one.

No problem. And ah, yes. I know that feeling from another fandom. Alias. People just hated Lauren Reed before the show started because Oh my god, she's like Vaughn's Wife and is standing between Syd & Vaughn's true love.

Sorry, if that sounded Ladyy, by the way. Just my ship (Sark/Sydney ) and that ship never really got along. Plus, I happen to ADORE Melissa George and Lauren Reed was an awesome character.

I usually don't ship canon. Except in Torchwood 'cause well, when slash becomes reality. No more on that because I know it just started in the U.S and I don't wanna spoil anything. lol.

I dunno, I quite like West.

I think someone said that he was 'acting like a jerk who knows everything', or something like that - I don't see him boasting about anything to anyone. All he does in the episode is talk to Claire, and fly. What's wrong with that?

And by the way, bringing back Zach is impossible. Instead of the characters, think of the storyline. I'm sure it will benefit from West in someway or another (the writers have a plan for everyone!)

So, it's only two episodes at the moment - be nice to West!

~d~

I haven't seen him act like a jerk really, either. He seems to keep to himself as far as I've seen and only talks to Claire. But there's something offsetting about him. Maybe it's just something kinda innocent. Who knows.

I would at least refrain from cutting off my toes!