After my friend and I watched "Lizards" we talked for hours about what the episode answered and what it brought new to the table. One thing that he brought up was how in the first season Hiro visits Peter on the train and says "you look much better without the scar" blah blah blah...
He then carried on about how whatever happened to Peter to give him the scar should have happened by now and that the writers screwed up. Can someone please explain to me whats up with Peter and the scar across his face? I thought i understood!

He had the scar in "Five Years Gone" because, in that Future Peter's timeline, Sylar had gotten to Claire before Peter met her, so he hadn't unlocked the cellular regeneration ability. Whatever happened in that timeline to give him that scar was different than the timeline we saw since Future Hiro intervened and told Ppeter to save the cheerleader. Ppeter you see now has met Claire, so he doesn't have the scars...

so the "ninja" hiro came from a future in which sylar got to claire?

essentially, yes (it's more complicated than that, but without seeing Five Years Gone, that's the simplest way to look at it)

Yep. In that Future Hiro's mind, if he intervened in the subway at that time, he could prevent the explosion by having Peter save Claire. But changing one thing has other effects, and the explosion happened anyway. Check out the "String Theory" graphic novel at nbc, which might help understand some things.

i was tryin to keep my question as simple as possible to avoid further confusion! I understand now! All these timelines make it fun

When F-Hiro had originally met P-Peter on the subway, Sylar had already killed Claire before Peter met her in his timeline.

However, in Five Year's Gone, Peter had already rescued Claire and she was alive, we saw her at the diner. However, Future Peter STILL had his scar then.

Like in BTTF or Frequency or Lake House, etc., isn't a usual plot idea to have changes in the past sorta have an instantaneous result in the future? 'Cuz Future HRG didn't know Claire was saved.

Or not.

at the risk of re-opening a pointless debate about temporal physics ... no, that's not the only interpretation. Millennium (movie and book -- the book's much better) and A Sound of Thunder (short story and movie -- the movie's awful) and others have something like "time quakes" that move like ripples from the point of discontinuity in the past, only changing the "present" as they reach that point in time

my own interpretation of Five Years Gone is somewhere between the two

I think there's an interview somewhere in which a writer/production team member revealed that they will eventually reveal how Peter can possibly get a scar...

i really hope they don't. leave the alternate future an alternate, please!

As the future wasn't written in stone, PHiro was going to chop PPeter to get him to stop emitting radiation but did not need to, instead stabbing Sylar. So apparently, FHiro remembered chopping the source of the explosion, thinking it was Sylar since that is who everyone blamed it on, but not realizing the glowing dude was Peter.

Maybe Peter didn't fully heal because he was going emo on the 'I'm going to explode' kick and couldn't activate the healing factor in time to fully heal the cut.

Well, in the first time line Future Hiro came from a future where Sylar killed Claire gaining her regenerative powers so when he tried to killed him he failed and he went boom so then Future Hiro went back in time and told Peter to save Claire. He eventually did and as a result Sylar didn't get her power however it seems that putting Peter on this path caused him to absorb all those extra powers and eventually Ted's power so he was the one to blow up New York rather than Sylar who opted to not do it for some reason. And of course in this alternate time line Nathan decided to probably go with his mother's agenda therefore he didn't fly Peter into the stratosphere and let him go boom...this is further shown as he becomes President and all that.

Pretty much the only difference between the second alternate time line and the actual one is that in this one Nathan opted to not do his mother's agenda and in the second alternate time line he did decide to go with her agenda.

Now you say what about the scar, in the first alternate time line he got it at some point and without Claire's powers he kept it. In the second alternate time line how he kept the scar is unknown, one could say he got it before meeting Claire however Claire's power should of fixed it even after the fact and even if it didn't he could of just got a knife and cut it off his face and he be back to normal. Another reason is perhaps in the second time line he never absorbed Claire's powers some how and got the scar like in the other time line.

Either way, he won't be getting that scar because of Claire's powers and he's a fricking bad ****** now.

I recall this as well. There was an indication that the writers had an explanation, but that we would not be privy to it until later.

http://heroeswiki.com/Peter's_scar

I remember the interview, it was one of the Behind the Eclipse questions. I believe they said you will find out in series 5. I think it's possible for Peter to have a scar, there is almost certainly someone or something in the Heroes World that can cause damage to Peter which he can't heal otherwise he would be unstoppable against every enemy, that would get boring eventually. He could have got the scar a long time after the bomb from something totally unrelated but before he meets FHiro. Also if the bomb had gone off it may have sped up the event that causes the scar which is why now we haven't seen it and won't for awhile.

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Someone with a knife / sword (Hiro?) + help from Haitian vs Peter = Peter with a scar, far in the future.

A couple possibilities on the scar...Peter gives it to himself and intentionally blocks his healing power so that the scar remains to remind him of someone that he lost or wasn't able to save?

Peter loses his powers at some point, and that is when he is cut, then once he regains his powers the cut is already naturally healed, thus leaving a scar?

I think it's fair to say that the timeline in which Hiro sees Peters scar is one in which Peter didn't get to Claire before Sylar did. Thus making Peter not able to regenerate. Once Peter saves Claire, that timeline is thrown out the window.

Yes, but as we saw in "5 Years Later", Claire was still alive because Peter had rescued her during the Homecoming incident, and Peter still had the scar. So that theory isn't valid. Even with Claire's power, he still manager to get the scar.

good point...you win

so basically all we can say is the question about the scar is still unanswered lol

I said this a MILLION times, but fanboys hold on to hope.

They goofed...
The first talk about the scar was just a tragic view of the future. Not really expecting to go into in detail.

But they gave you the scar in the future episode because eveyone HARPED on it and wanted to see it. You want to see the future, you want to see a scar... then here! Here's your scar! We won't be around long enough to discuss it, or just kill off peter or write him out before we have to explain it.

Four more years and counting people.

We know the outcome so this future will NEVER happen. Problem is they should employ 3 super fanboys to be fact finders and go through their stories like a fine tooth comb so that the %1 of people that:

a) remember the scar
care about the scar
or
c) actually think they will explain something that they didn't actually think they would ever have to show

Remember the cast was supposed to change EVERY season. BUT some people fell in love with the characters so much, that the writers had to sell out to the network (but selling out paid). Scrap the plans to kill Peter, Sylar and other heroes. We must please the people and now write a show with people marked as unkillable. Which can ruin the series after a while. It would stay fresh if you can be able to pick people off and move on like the plan was.

Oh well. The scar wasn't supposed to ever be seen, just talked about briefly and forgotten.

Oh really? I only just watched the first season recently, upon the dvd release, and throughout the whole series I was thinking "I don't see how this could go into a Season 2. This story must end this season and new characters and stories must come in next season." Like it's an anthology show kinda, showing different stories from the Heroes 'world'.

If it's true that they changed that idea halfway thorugh, that's too bad. It would have been cool to see an end, because as you said; that means no-one's safe.

From Behind The Eclipse questions answered by Joe Pokaski and Aron Coleite(heroes writers/producers):





Matthew H has a question about Peter. "This is in regards to the 'scar' mentioned by Future Hiro in Chapter Five, 'Hiros.' If Peter has acquired the spontaneous tissue regeneration' from Claire, how is it possible for Peter to be scarred, marked, or otherwise altered?" Matthew, we get that question form the network very often. We're going to give you the same response they get - "You will find out in Season 5". We're serious.



And numerous people wrote in with the following question as well, but we figured we'd hand it over to one Javier Caro from Peru who asks, "If Peter absorbed Claire's powers, and he can heal, why does he have a scar on his face?" We answered that question last week. We can tell you two things. First, it is not a mistake, Peter can regenerate, but he still has the scar. Secondly, we'll show you how later on in the series. We promise.



The writers themselves say it's not a mistake so unless they are lieing straight to our faces, which i find unlikely, Peter was intended to have a scar in the Future. As I said above we will find out in season 5 although maybe you are correct and they never expect to have to answer it in afew years but I doubt they would have planned like that. I guess we can never be certain until season 5.

I think it's got something to do with Hiro's sword. Maybe it's the only thing that can kill or Injury people with the Regeneration power! Thats how it gets it's. But I haven't a clue why one of the heroes would use it on him, unless Slyar or someone else takes it from Hiro or even Peter turns evil himself! Anyway thats my theory so far.

If that was true then Future Hiro never would of had to go back in time to prevent Sylar from getting Claires powers.

Besides with or without Claire's power, Sylar did survive the stabbing either way and its just with Claires power that he come back faster.

As for what Olbas said, good to see we will get it explained eventually lol.

How I see it, Peter has to be stopped in the future because power goes to his brain or he gets cornered by bad guys. The bad guy find out how to turn the power off, from the chemical that Hana was studying for HRG. The chemical is said to stop powers or temp stops powers. Hana then was caught and excaped. Peter goes into the trap thinking nobody can stop him and gets infected by the chemical and excapes with his life, or is rescued by, lets say, Claire. Then, after cleaning Peter of the chemical which gives him back his power or waits until it goes out his system. This would explained how Peter can heal and still have a scar in 5YG, because I do agree that if Peter saves Claire and has her power then Peter shouldn't have the scar, unless somebody learns how to turn them off.

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Yes. Otherwise, he (F-Hiro) would not have made the personal appeal of Peter to save the cheerleader.

I knew the scar wasn't a thing that belongs only to the alternate timeline... Let's get this clear...If you go back to the past and change something it will affect some things in the future but not everything...When Ninja Hiro went back to the past with the "Save the Cheerleader save the world' line...he changed three things: Claire lived, Peter and Nathan met Claire and Sylar can't regenerate. But eventhough he managed to change those things, some things were left the same. The explosion still happened, Nathan still became president and the future was still a barren wasteland...


So when Nerdy Hiro came back to the past in "5 years gone" he changed the past again...therefore the future was changed once more...This time, the city was not destroyed, Nathan didn't become president and Ando did not die...But some things stayed the same, the explosion still happened, the company was still intact, and Claire was still on the run etc... So my point is, just because the future has changed doesn't mean everything that was supposed to happen in the future won't happen...What if the changes Hiro made in the past has no effect whatsover on the event that caused Peter to have that scar?


I always knew that Peter would get that scar no matter how many times Hiro goes back in time...Because Hiro only wanted to change two things: He wanted to stop the explosion and he wanted Ando to live...So Peter's scar was of no concern to him...