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coruscant
So we see a bit of a dark side from people today but we also see the Symbol tattoo appear and disappear on his arm. Did he inherit this from Niki/Jessica? what could this mean about the true nature of her power and what she could still be capable off.
siloeyes
I thought that was just the tattoo healing and we see a glimpse of the symbol that happens to be in the design as it fades away.
VentiDeMilo
It's kinda confusing too. I thought Peter got that dark side from Sylar...but then the helix...so it's Jessica/Sylar?
Aia
QUOTE (siloeyes @ Oct 8 2007, 06:09 PM) *
I thought that was just the tattoo healing and we see a glimpse of the symbol that happens to be in the design as it fades away.


I thought it was just healing as well, but now, I'm confused. smile.gif)
ColorMeToxic
QUOTE (siloeyes @ Oct 8 2007, 09:09 PM) *
I thought that was just the tattoo healing and we see a glimpse of the symbol that happens to be in the design as it fades away.



That's what I thought, but you'd think the ink would stay.

Actually... ^^ no. LoL. If his body pushes a bullet ((foreign object)) out, then it would also push ink ((foreign material)) out.
nickpowers101
QUOTE (ColorMeToxic @ Oct 8 2007, 10:11 PM) *
That's what I thought, but you'd think the ink would stay.

Actually... ^^ no. LoL. If his body pushes a bullet ((foreign object)) out, then it would also push ink ((foreign material)) out.


That's what I was thinking too...
314
Well, Peter having such power could make him tend to get on the bad side. While he is still good even with amnesia having such power and feeling so powerful could make him think normal people are like ants..and who feels bad hurting a ant. But it looks like that girl will keep him good with her love and all that.
elevator
I thought that was really cool.
And was like "Whoa!" because I am a big nerd.
roxygr1223
absolute power corrupts absolutely wink.gif
Imthehero
i figured it was just telling us that those irish people decend from a "powered" family, and will most likely have some creepy surprise connection to everyone else.
ColorMeToxic
I don't think we've seen the last of his "evil" tendencies, though. smile.gif
Aerdna
QUOTE (siloeyes @ Oct 8 2007, 10:09 PM) *
I thought that was just the tattoo healing and we see a glimpse of the symbol that happens to be in the design as it fades away.


Fourthed tongue.gif Although I did go, "Oh no, now's he's turning into Sylar!"

I hadn't thought it being a split personality, but maybe Jessica isn't as gone as we thought. Guh, it brings the N/J confusion to a whole new level rolleyes.gif
TessaBlues
Well if the split personality is actually a power and not just a mental disorder Jessica doesn't have to mainfest in Peter. He could always develop his own evil alter ego. Which would, I think, be pretty interesting to see.
Days
QUOTE (siloeyes @ Oct 8 2007, 10:09 PM) *
I thought that was just the tattoo healing and we see a glimpse of the symbol that happens to be in the design as it fades away.



That's what I was thinking... It wouldn't make sense that he took niki's two personality thing. That isn't her power... Super Strength is...
schreier
QUOTE (Days @ Oct 8 2007, 11:21 PM) *
That's what I was thinking... It wouldn't make sense that he took niki's two personality thing. That isn't her power... Super Strength is...


I posted this in another thread and was curious - since the helix is apparently contained within the celtic knot symbol of the family, do you think this implies that the family is somehow connected to the company or powers?
Tyrell34
QUOTE (siloeyes @ Oct 8 2007, 06:09 PM) *
I thought that was just the tattoo healing and we see a glimpse of the symbol that happens to be in the design as it fades away.



Can someone screen cap it and see if the "knot" was made up of many "symbols"?
URAINAH
Yeah, when they were doing the tattoo, I asked my husband, "wouldn't that just heal?" I mean it is a series of needle ******. The tattoo actually changed into the symbol. What was left was sort of in the configuration, but it moved around to be more like "godsend". And he did say he could have killed that dude, and that was so not like the old Peter. He had misgivings about killing Sylar. If you can't kill a serial killer, who could you kill? Maybe he's got more of a dark side..

At least Noah and Claire won't be having that argument:
Claire: "DAD! I want to get a tattoo! Maybe just a butterfly on my lower back..."
Noah: "I said no Claire. That will only draw more attention to yourself. Might as well get 'FREAK' tattooed across your forehead."
Claire: "But everybody has one! If I don't get one, then I will stand out!"
Noah: "Fine, whatever Claire. It'll just disappear anyway..."
Claire: dry.gif
prander
QUOTE (ColorMeToxic @ Oct 8 2007, 09:11 PM) *
That's what I thought, but you'd think the ink would stay.

Actually... ^^ no. LoL. If his body pushes a bullet ((foreign object)) out, then it would also push ink ((foreign material)) out.
That's what I thought, it'd be treated as any other kind of foreign object.


QUOTE (TessaBlues @ Oct 8 2007, 10:02 PM) *
Well if the split personality is actually a power and not just a mental disorder Jessica doesn't have to mainfest in Peter. He could always develop his own evil alter ego. Which would, I think, be pretty interesting to see.
I was under the impression that Jessica / Niki integrated into just Niki while she beat up on Candice and before she exited the building into Kirby Plaza. If that's the case, she wouldn't have had the alter ego Jessica (who seems to have actually been her dead sister), if it was considered a power and Peter wouldn't have absorbed anything from that.
Time4milkjr
Yeah I was thinkin' the same exact thing. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the last episode in Season 1 (How To Stop an Exploding Man) was Peter's first encounter with Niki. His powers were already beserk, and Niki just added to it, so when he flew up high into the sky and blew up, it created an alter ego(the one without a memory nor identity). That alter ego is dominate and has yet to let the real Peter come back. If you're confused maybe this can help clarify by using the example of Niki/Jessica:

Peter = Niki
Peter 2 = Jessica

Any thoughts? Still confused of my idea?
Therotc
QUOTE (ColorMeToxic @ Oct 8 2007, 10:16 PM) *
I don't think we've seen the last of his "evil" tendencies, though. smile.gif


I'd like to see more. After that glimpse of his "dark future" self in Five Years Gone, I'd like to see more of pete's "Dark Side".
Beez
QUOTE (Time4milkjr @ Oct 9 2007, 12:00 AM) *
Yeah I was thinkin' the same exact thing. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the last episode in Season 1 (How To Stop an Exploding Man) was Peter's first encounter with Niki. His powers were already beserk, and Niki just added to it, so when he flew up high into the sky and blew up, it created an alter ego(the one without a memory nor identity). That alter ego is dominate and has yet to let the real Peter come back. If you're confused maybe this can help clarify by using the example of Niki/Jessica:

Peter = Niki
Peter 2 = Jessica

Any thoughts? Still confused of my idea?


Logically it makes no sense
314
QUOTE (Beez @ Oct 9 2007, 02:01 AM) *
Logically it makes no sense

Thanks...glad to see someone realized that before me lol.

Plus when they met his powers weren't berserk, she used her super strength that Peter immediately took and used to kick Sylar's butt. Then he went berserk with the nuclear power.
dcg
I assumed the helix symbol just appeared because Peter let his emotions totaly take control of him (even if just for one moment). Jessica was always about rage.

I would assume that the "new tattoo" would not take because of the regenerative property as well.
Crystalredly
He is kinda governed by his emotions...let's think, what was the emotion he felt when he met/fought with Sylar? /Anger seems like the best one to me. ;O
WalkingPower
QUOTE (siloeyes @ Oct 8 2007, 07:09 PM) *
I thought that was just the tattoo healing and we see a glimpse of the symbol that happens to be in the design as it fades away.


I initially thought that, too, but when I went back over the scene, it's pretty clear that the tattoo (Celtic Knot or something?) morphs into the Godsend symbol, then fades.
JadeDestiny
Hmm...that could get interesting...and fun to watch biggrin.gif


QUOTE (ColorMeToxic @ Oct 8 2007, 10:16 PM) *
I don't think we've seen the last of his "evil" tendencies, though. smile.gif
r60man
The helix tatto was simply a portion of the "family" tattoo that got shown to him earlier. It was not the helix tattoo from Nicki at all.
ImSoGreat
I'm going to go ahead and throw my vote in that the symbol fading has nothing to do with Peter having a dark side. The tattoo was just fading because of his healing power, and Tim Kring loves to throw that symbol everywhere, so they made it show up while the tattoo was fading. I think people read more into these things than is neccessary.
Little hero
Mabey the family symbol is based off the helix and the family line has powers like the girl who seems to be falling in love with peter hinted to haveing powers when she was talking to peter and was like all be there to back u up.. and she also did not seem to scared when the thugs came in and pulled a gun on her in last weeks ep
YolandaAsh
What if the irish girl has powers like Candace and is just morphing his reality? So instead of giving him the tattoo of the family crest she was really baggin' and taggin'...

Also I have a question about Peter's healing abilities... if he just expels foreign objects from his body why did the shard of glass stay in his head in season 1? Wouldn't his body just expelled it like the bullets? Was it because it was in his brain? I thought that seemed a little inconsistent but maybe that was just me
schreier
QUOTE (YolandaAsh @ Oct 9 2007, 05:03 PM) *
What if the irish girl has powers like Candace and is just morphing his reality? So instead of giving him the tattoo of the family crest she was really baggin' and taggin'...

Also I have a question about Peter's healing abilities... if he just expels foreign objects from his body why did the shard of glass stay in his head in season 1? Wouldn't his body just expelled it like the bullets? Was it because it was in his brain? I thought that seemed a little inconsistent but maybe that was just me



i think it's consistent because the power is in the brain ... dead = dead as long as the thing is still there. Once it is removed, the power kicks in. This would probably indicate that, if he were shot in the head he'd die. You could remove the bullet and he would heal. If you didn't, no more Peter.

This raises a fairly disgusting thought - what if they didn't remove the bullet for weeks? Would he decompose? Would he heal from decomposing?
Sanj


These are the three stages of the Peter tattoo dissapearing. Clearly, the last stage is in the form of the "Godsend" tattoo. I do believe the same thing happening to Niki is happening to Peter.
schreier
QUOTE (Sanj @ Oct 9 2007, 05:14 PM) *



Just looking at the pics, there is no way that the godsend helix symbol was contained within the tattoo - - it morphed into the tattoo which does raise new questions - both about Peter and rekindling Niki/Jessica issues.

Maybe Nathan is inside of Peter somehow?
texgrog
I got the impression that the tattoo faded away, not as if it were made from many symbols, but instead, faded into the symbol, if that makes sense, as if this pattern of healing is derived, as well, from the same meaning that the symbol has. It didn't appear that his body rejected the ink, like it rejected the bullet, but rather absorbed the ink through the symbol, as if the symbol is what is causing his powers. I don't know if this makes any sense, but it's how I saw that scene.
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