So is Candice working for "the company"? Or is she possibly working for someone else?

What does the company gain by keeping him alive?

The Company's got a lot to gain, I think. Sylar's powerful, and they can learn a whole lot from him, if they can control him.

She's been working for them since we first saw her.

I get that, but why would the company need to hide Sylar in such a remote place. You would think that they could keep him hidden somewhere less remote. It seems to me that Candice and whomever she works for want to stay hidden from the company.

I thought it was plainly obvious that Candice went renegade and thats why she hid him in some remote jungle.

Candice left the company, saved sylar thinking she could convince him to take over, kill, get revenge, whatever with her...

Sylar had other plans...

Do you think Candice was talking to the same person that HRG/ Noah talked too back when he held Sylar captive? Both of the orders were to keep Sylar alive...


Maybe there is somebody with a higher ranking than Bob.

Well, last time they had Sylar in custody, they DID try to hold him in a normal facility, but it didn't take.

Maybe they were trying something different?

Neither did this one. When will "they" learn.


Whoever "they" is..

Candice the fatty?

I bet she's workin with gold maker guy (forgot his name). I don't totally trust that guy. My instincts telling me he might be bad guy.

Anyway, she might be still alive. They're in the middle of nowhere. It might be another illusions of her.

Yeah I'm not sure its the actual company. If so, him being kept alive is probably the personal request of someone in the company with their own agenda.

I think it is the same company, that is why Bennet and Mohinder have been working to infiltrate it.

They could have gotten it wrong, but I doubt it.

It's clearly not a renegade Candice, unless a fat gothic teenaged girl has the medical expertise to carry out surgical operations.

Simplest answer would be The Company, because Candice has worked for them all this time. Of course it could be the mysterious Kane.

If she is really dead then it was a stupid way to kill her. As dangerous as Sylar is, she should have the smarts to create a doppleganger of herself for him to "kill", which would explain why Sylar didn't get her powers. I mean Sylar has already killed one operative of this company.

I assumed that Candace was talking to Bob, since they were both seen on the phone at one point. If Candace is indeed dead, you think that they could have brought back Missy Peregrym (or however she spells her name) for just that one last scene.

Sylar has a history of assuming the identity of his victims. Perhaps now when he gets a grip on his powers again, he will use Candace's power to assume her identity to learn more about the company.

Remember the Company first wanted him captured then Bennet wanted to kill him for obvious reasons but he was told to keep him alive. So the Company wants him alive to figure out how he uses people's powers.

As for her working for them, I doubt she have the resources to pull off fixing Sylar and all that besides when we first see her someone called her to report in on Sylar's condition so clearly she is working for someone and as she was working for the Company one can assume she is still working for the Company..my question is why do you all think she isn't?

Absolutely.  Candice could have been standing a few feet away, letting him believe he killed her.

Actually, that seems like a great way to have him believe that he's lost his touch.  He could have been throwing out his real powers all along, and not realized it - and then he "kills" Candice (as far as he knows), doesn't gain her power, and starts doubting the rest of his abilities.

Watching those scenes, my first thought was "yeah, you're not really in Maui", my second was "you're not really in a warehouse somewhere like it seems", and my third was "you didn't really kill her, and you're not out in the middle of the forest somewhere"

*shrug*

Given her power, all of those scenes could have still taken part in the sewer she pulled him down into - there's no way for him to know, and things are rarely as they seem.  Not knowing the full extent of her powers, he may have never been stabbed in the first place.  She could have convinced everyone around that she wasn't there, made Hiro think he stabbed him, etc.

That's the problem with a power like that - you never know exactly what reality is

Putting doubt into Sylar's mind, as far as what he's capable of, seems like a great way to make him question his power - and with doubt comes vulnerability, and it makes him easy to manipulate if need be.

As much as I wish she isn't dead, as much I think the writers got VERY lazy on this one after they started changing everything they had stated before about the storyline only because zachary goes "hollywood".

I'm sure they wanted to give him the opportunity to change his appearance for the episodes he won't be able to participate while making the movie so Candice was their "only way out" and a good "excuse" (not for us or at least not for me...)for them.

It was stated in the first season that candice had NO ALLIANCES and were working for linderman only because she believed in him.

It was also stated that sylar really died in the last episode and that he lost his powers due to his death.
Ressurection came into play through spoilers and speculations and after he got the spock role, all of sudden, Kane has only regeneration (at least so far), Sylar has his powers so he can kill Candice, Candice all of sudden works for someone again and it's dumb enough to take care of someone she knows that kills others specials for their powers.

A "Biblical" story writen by a 10 years old?
Sorry if I sound harsh but I'm starting getting ****** about the way the show starts going lazy due to the hype that and the fan support that obviously blowed their brains.

Episode 8, Four Months Ago:
- Mickey Mouse saves sylar
- Sylar kills Kermit and after that fights against and kills miss Piggy
- Candice is working for the Teletubbies(that's why they putting her there as a mindless teenie that's playing sitting duck and because they altered the storyline they had for her previously only so she can get killed) but the teletubbies think it over and get out of the way to save their butt, Candice on the other hand stays back waiting for sylar to "check her brain".

I would say that Candice/Michelle was working for the "Company". The same way she was when Thompson introduced her in Season 1. The reason the "Company" would want him alive, is to control and use him. If one thinks about it, Sylar's original power is the ability to see how things work. This specific power could come in very handy to a company that tracks down and collects information on those with special abilities. Say Sylar was on their team, they could cut down the amount of abduction/time kept by getting Sylar to just look at these people and tell them what the power is and how it works. Probably why Thompson wouldn't let Noah kill Sylar in S1.

That's not how Sylars ability works. Check season one and you'll see what I mean.
When he meets Dale, he has no clue about her ability before she talks about it and because he didn't had any clue, he showed off with zanes ability so he can make her reveal hers.

After he heard about what she can do his heartbeat changed and he got excited. To see "how things work", he needs to check their brain first since there are all our "functionalities" included (our so called Motherboard, Command Center).

So his ability would actually be useless for the company unless they letting him keep killing others so he can work for them as a "killing maschine".

The actual reason they were interested about him was because he was available to use more than one power as also absorb them. That's actually what they wanted to know about him.

Other than that, they already knew what he is capable off and they should had him closed in a facility like back then instead in a house with Candice as the only opponent only because she were very powerful.

Anyway, it was already revealed why they changed her whole story and killed her after one episode only in the latest beaman blog. -.-

I was thinking the same thing. Why would anybody get that close to a serial killer when you are what he is looking for in a victim? I figure that she might have thought he was too weak and didn't have his powers to go back on. At least now we know for a fact that he just studies the brain and incorperates what he see instead of eating or adding it to his brain.

The question I had was:
Is the whole thing, including the jungle, an illusion from Candice?
Did Sylar lose all his previous, except his original, powers? It would be ashame if he didn't have TK.
Does Sylar give up and just join the company?

How I see it, Candice can make him see anything she wants. Including running in circles in the imaginary jungle which is Actually a gym at a rundown school. You would think that the company would order her not to do certain things unless they want Sylar to have that power. Or Maybe its what somebody else said. They want another try at the presidency and/or exploding NYC. Some guy brought up that NYC exploding stopped the spread of the virus.

I see your point, especially with the Dale/super hearing character. But if you look back at the scene with Chandra suresh, Sylar knew his watch was broken with just a glance, but Chandra's watch wasn't using any super power. Also it didn't have a brain to eat. If that point isn't enough, try the scene where he got his TK. The guy showed him his power and Sylar looked at him really closely. Then said something along the lines of ... I can see now, you are broken, but I can fix it.. then whamo! he cracks open his meal and digs for the most dilectable part.

I don't think he needs to have anything to do physically with their brains to see how it works, but rather to take the power for himself. I think his power is seeing how things work. I believe I have even heard those exact words used to describe his power on the show. Can't remember the epi though.

Doubt shes working for anyone anymore but...hmm, maybe she did go rogue. :|

Seemed to me that she was still working for them though, for that ''better world'' plan that the 12 were aiming for.

And that exactly proves my point!
He needs to know first that there is a power.
If brian wouldn't show him his power, sylar wouldn't know what kind of power brian has until he looked
on the particular part of the brain.
As about the watch, he heard the "tick off" and knew that something was "broken".
Every good watchmaker could hear that out even without a ability. ^^
The episode you are talking about is the six months ago.

If she was creating still another illusion of her death, I doubt she would show him her true form, fat Betty. I'm fairly certain she is dead. That they needed to get another actress to play her is because Missy is under contract to another network. This was an easy and cheap way to get rid of her character and make way for new ones.

Since we saw her remain in her illusion form when Niki knocked her out, and now she is in her unwanted original form, she no doubt is completely unable to sustain an illusion. If she could retain it when she was unconscious, this probably means she is dead.

does anyone think she was the "one that pulled him into the sewer?" I can't really picture that cause her illusion and her real size don't match. I don't think she could have gotten Sylar and her both through the manhole without other help.

First I don't believe any watchmaker could hear the ticking of a single watch in a shop full of watches and clocks without having some hightened sense of hearing. Not without holding said watch up to their ear.

Second, you stated that unless the company let him keep killing people, his power would be useless to them. To that I propose this...

Sylar doesn't have to kill anyone to use his original power of seeing how things work, He saw how Brian's TK worked without having killed him. Sylar only needs to kill in order to extract said power from his victim. Not to see how it works.

As stated previously it has already been confirmed in beaman's blog that candice is in fact dead and I think we'll find out next week that he is in mexico, I'm sure that she was working for someone associated with the company. In the last BTE when asked why BOB said the company started with 30 people but Kaito said 12 they said that one is a subset of the other. This being the case it is quite possible that there are multiple subsets of the company and there may be situations where the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing.. different agendas within the same company.. so it's quite possible that they kept sylar and candace in such a remote location to keep his survival a secret.

Also, they may have misjudged him. Last time they abducted him and stuck him in a cell.. This time they saved his life and stuck him in "paradise" with a "hot chich"... maybe they thought there was still some human in him.

What I don't understand is why the people she works for would help him re-acquire his powers. Surely thats not the Co. I mean, weren't they trying to stop him, or was that just HRG?

Did they mean re-aquire, like get his previous ones back? or re-acquire, here's some new 'roes to feast on?

hmmmm...anyone?

Well I suggest you really rewatch the episode then if you still don't believe me.

He says to brian "you are broken" only because brian doesn't wanna have his ability and it's scared of it.
Sylar said then "I know how to fix it/this" and killed him with the crystal.

As you could see on Candice, he doesn't extract anything from the brain, he watches the particular part and than he kinda "mimics" the power after he understands "how it works".

He just examine her brain after he killed her and to be able to go to that part, he had after a while (you can see that in the earlier episodes as well) books about brain surgery in his appartment.
Through this he knew than WHERE he has to look to find the ability on the others.

As about the watch, if you rewatch the scene you'll see that he puts it on his ear as well. ^^

What I said about the company was only a assumption that they might wanna use him as their killer also.
This wasn't stated anywhere and I actualy don't even think that it could be the case.
However, the whole setup was bad writing to say the least and it was only used so they have a excuse for candices death after they changed her whole storyline (she was supposed to appear in several episodes in the second season originaly).

Oh well... another of my favorites gone only so the sucky sylar has something to do.

I'm not really certain what the girl being fat has to do with anything? Seriously, be a little respectful of other people who read the forums that may be overweight. You don't label other people like "Niki, the skinny" or "Matt, the chubby cop."

matt's nickname is actually "what women want cop", then we have the "rapin Haitian", "invisibum", "molly mapquest", "mole face flying boy", "boondocks peter".

I think the producers may have killed Candice off early to ekep anyone from getting her powers.
If Peter would have come in contact with her or if Sylar still had his ablity to figure out how her powers worked, they would have been too powerful. These guys can already move things with their minds, produce EPM's apparently, and freeze/burn things. You give them the ability to create illusions, large scale illusions like creating an entire island and making yourself 200lbs lighter, and how do you explain anyone stopping them? Peter could easily shape himself into Sylars mom to distract him while he creates a tree to hide Hyro, who once again stabs Sylar and kills him off. Or Sylar could make himself into a hot Irish chic to get Peter to let his guard down long enough to send some radioactive wave through his urethra all the way up to his brain and killing him off. He can pluck em off one by one after that.

By Sylar killing Candice this way, noone gets her power and they get to show Sylar's killing ways again.

As much as I hate to see her go, it was a good move by the producers. Stupid way of killing her though, who actually gets knocked out by a cup anyways. Enough not to feel someone cutting your head open. She could have woken up and made him see something long enough to get away.

Maybe she was the cockroach?


If you remember, HRG wanted to Kill Sylar but a call from the company, probably Thompson, told him not to. So the Company wanted to keep Sylar just as he was.

I agree with both of these statement.

As for the statement that Sylar doesn't have her power. I think your in for a surprised. Right now Sylar does not have the strength to use any powers, which includes hers. Once he finished healing then he should be able to start using his powers again. Since he doesn't have healing, it will take at least 6 month to be up and running. But after he's done he will have to learn how to use illusions.

There is three scenerios here.

1)He loses the ability to gain power and lost all his powers. Why bring him back.
2)He loses all his old powers but able to get new ones. Dought this also since that Makes Peter too far ahead.
3)He just really hurt and cannot do anything right now until he heals.

The reason I think that he has Candices power is because he was using his power to help examine the victims and he made the strange voice. So that was an indication that he used his power but is not strong enough to create the powers for anything significant like tk, Radiation control, or illusions.

No, she was on the phone with the Company. She still works with them.