Think about it - these Irish guys must be the dumbest people in the world, and Peter fits right in.

First of all, when they find him chained to the wall of the cargo box, they actually accuse him of stealing the iPods. Yeah, he wanted to rip you off, so he stole all the iPods by himself, took off his shirt and chained himself to the wall.
Next, he emits electricity that throws a guy across the box. I don't know about you, but after that I stop messing with Peter. But not these guys - they take him in a back room and beat him up. And he lets them!
Then, he beats up people who are trying to harass? kidnap? rape? the sister, and instead of thanking him, or asking him how the hell he got untied, they Lady about it.
Then, the brother reveals that he has the box with Peter's identity in it, but instead of Peter knocking him out and taking it, or just TKing it to his hand, or any one of a number of other things, he just accepts it. And does the Irish guy hide the contents? Nope - he leaves it in the box. And Peter, 3 feet away, does nothing.
Then, he uses his powers against an unknowable number of innocent guards just doing their jobs, instead of against the Irish mobsters who are holding his identity hostage, who accused him of stealing iPods, and who totally beat him up.

And the final stupid thing that happens is the one Irish mobster whose mind Peter reads actually tries to take the very very heavy crate full of money, that took two guys to move, all by himself while holding a gun in one hand. It's just stupid!!

The only thing that maybe made sense is that Peter didn't look in the box yet.

I disagree with your signature.

The problem with Peter's story (apart from the bad accent) is that I can guess where it's heading. Like someone else outlined in one of these threads, it sounds like a copy of the Bourne series.

At least it's creative. Not too many Irish gangsters on American television these days.

I definitely agree with you about how they found him - when they opened the crate, found Peter and started yelling at him, "Where are the ipods?" I was like, does it LOOK like he took the ipods?!? Um, NO, it looks like either someone else took the ipods (along with his shirt) and chained him here, or you've got the WRONG CRATE cuz this one has a shirtless dude chained up in it! LOL

Hopefully the story will start to make more sense soon. Obviously he wasn't just chained up in the crate for the whole 4 months - somewhere in that time he acquired lighting powers and got a haircut.

That made me lol.



I was thinking the same thing. We've seen it before.

No, Peter. You are not a bad guy. You almost blew up New York. But hey, that wasn't your fault.

He's gonna open the box and find just a key or something, just before the 'to be continued'.

Announcer: Blah blah blah THE KEY...

I love this show.

I personally think it’s the best storyline so far in s2. I thought it was really interesting that Peter enjoyed choking the guy to death and the escape in last episode was also great. Plus I think it’s amazing that in the last three episodes Peter has used more powers than he did in almost the entire s1.

How many volumes are in this season? Sarcasm here, sorry.

TOOOO FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!

In Pete's defense, though... he is still trying to remember that he has powers and how to use them..they are kind of coming out as reflexes versus that he is purposefully using them...except when he almost choked that poor guy to death. I was a little ticked that he didn't just grab his box and give everyone a TK beat down though... I guess that wouldn't leave room for him and Caitlin, and their little tryst on the beach while he learns to control his powers by saying her name instead of "lightning...spark..go go gadget..." (reference to the online comic)

I'll vomit if Caitlin and Ricky have powers, because it's becoming horribly unrealistic that almost every new character turns out to have one. And the "older generation secretly planned everything" reason is getting old and cheap, too.

accents = a steaming pile of crappola - NO ONE says for the sake of pete !

the box = ain't gonna be telling us a wile pile / we'll have to wait for the flashback ep..

the gangsters = useless, i mean they give pete a tattoo after he starts a "blood feud " ? wtf -

peter saying celtic were meant to be a lock...against ac milan? european cup winners ac milan ? oh aye celtic did beat them...jammy last minute goal tho' - and another point - there's no dollars down south, they be called euro's now peeps !

peter finally showing some balls & using his powers rather than moaning about them = excellent

the romance with caitlin = dead end , as in she's toast , cue next ep , she'll die in petes arms spouting some romantic pish..

in conclusion - we dunno enough about how pete got there, who sent him there, and how long he was in the container, the pay off for that shud be good. the rest of the arc is simply for pete to show powers, thats cool enough for me..

so i'd have to disagree with the op - cool arc, if only for muti-powered pete - and for proving the point that the best people to do an irish accent are...**drum roll**...irish people...

I thought it feels familiar but I couldn't put my finger on which story it reminds me of. And now that I remember, 'familiar' is an understatement. The story does sound like a super-powered version of "Bourne".

And Caitlin = Marie, Y/Y?

This sounds right to me. For all we know Peter was placed in the crate to start a blood feud between the famlies. For all we know he was placed in the crate because Ricky has a power. I wouldn't rule anything out until we understand what is going on. I think its because of what we don't know that makes this arc cool, plus the Peter using his new badass powers.

Also about what the Irish guys did to Peter in the begining, you have to look at it from their view. They are goign to steal something and its already gone, but their is a guy their instead. Obviously this guy has something to do with it. The iPods didn't just turn into a half naked guy chained to the wall!

Personally i like this arc the best mainly because i wanna know what Peter was up to and is up to.

I believe that it's fortuitous that Peter ends up in a foreign land, in a hostle situation, unknown and sans memory. This because he is not defined by himself, his environment or those around him. He, as a result, must become what he was intended to be...a self-assured super Hero, who will undoubtedly be called upon to save the day yet again.

He will no longer be the emo that so many of you detested. He will no longer need his big brother to fight his battles. And, he will no longer be subject to the self-doubt experienced when in his mother's overbearing presence.

He will also have the opportunity to grow into his powers, several of which he's acquired over the last four months. When he shows up again stateside, he'll be a very different Peter!

hang on, peter gets a tattoo... peter can't get a tattoo... his regen is automatic... his skin would have healed as soon as it broke.

aparently you didn't watch the end of the episode. it disappeared after it turned intot the godsend symbol. I don't think their was any significance in it turing into the godsend symbol other than all the other refferences to the symbol, meaning hey cool there is that symbol we always see. We will have to wait and see though.

The whole regeneration thing hasn't been done as best it could in the show in my opinion. One thing i noticed recently is that Claire has her earrings. Since she has had her regeneration since she was a baby that would have never been possible.

yeah, i posted the earrings thing ages ago too.

not only did i not see the end, i haven't seen any of season two... i was too annoyed at the finalé.

Wow man thats sad. You are posting on an episode you havn't watched and i am assuming you are refusing to watch casue you didn't get to see Peter or Sylar use some crazy powers. Go watch Charmed, i hear they use some cool powers there. Unforturnatly the show sucks cause its got bad actors and bad stories. If you don't like the show don't watch it and certainly don't post about it.

don't worry he will keep on posting even though he admits he didn't watch any of season two like it's some sort of badge of honor, he still has his panties in a bunch over timeline issues from the five years gone episode which I believe was supposed to be the point when he stopped watching. it's just sad and pathetic at this point and time to crawl out of basement and see the light.

actually, i was asking a question about an episode i haven't seen.

...and i don't watch the show anymore due to poor writing and inconsistent time theories.

i still post as i enjoy talking with those i have enoyed talking to in the past.

...and i will slate anything written by tim kring, since he finds it acceptable to claim that well known tv shows and films, which use time, are not as good as his idea of time and his f**kwit ideologies.

Well the ability to time travel is not an ability that exists so a person could get creative with it and take it out of the realm of plausibility. So how can it be inconsistant?

My Fiancee is Irish and she hasn't said anything about the accents being bad, which trust me when I say she would.

Yeah, i'm sure it will all turn out to have a massive "surprise" as it were, and that woman really gets on my nerves. Never questioning just annoying.

I like the storyline so far, and it could cause some serious questioning of Peter's supposedly heroic character.

I was wondering about that myself. Some are saying the accents are bad but they sound fine to me. Granted I have only met two people with actual Irish accents but the ones on the show sound good to me.


amolion, I got your PM. Ok I was just curious.

Just as there are different accents in america, the same goes with any country and maybe these accents sound too cliche' for some people.

This fall on Heroes... SOMEONE GETS A KEY.. SOMEONE GETS TO PEE

Claire can have earrings just like humans in real life have earrings - by keeping earrings in the holes. I mean, humans heal in real life, you know.

AS far as accents, some people expect everyone from Ireland to sound like the leprechaun from the Lucky Charms commercials.

That must be it. I really just don't see the problem with the accents.

No the accents are Dreadful. Nobody speaks like that. Ricky's is a woeful atempt at what I guess is supposed to be a jackeen accent and his sister has a pathetic northernish kinda one. No revel911 (if that is your real name), I think you need to get the missus to watch it again...

You can say that the accents are terrible until you're blue in the face but I dont see it. They sound fine to me. I've only known a couple of people with Irish accents but the accents of the people on the show sound similar.

This story line isn't exactly the best one going, but its not the worse. Sure the mobsters weren't exactly the brightest crayons in the box. Seriously a topless, confused, and chained up man is the one who stole your iPods, and even after he insisted he was innocent you proceed to beat him up. As for the accents I can't say much, I've met more Scottish people than I have Irish but the accent seems fine to me.

Peter to me is the main issue in this story line, his general character and personality have been changed way to much for me to feel comfortable. I know memory loss plays an important role in the personality shift, but still I can't see how it could have completely reversed his personality, he had a somewhat caring and naive personality to start out with and now he's completely "I-don't-trust-anyone/bada**". Yes I do realize that Peter went through a lot last season but I fail to see how that could've carried over due to memory loss anyways. Personality isn't that closely linked to memories in my opinion, but that's just me.

It's not uncommon for people who suffer complete memory loss for their personality, likes and dislikes to change.

Ohh.. okay, that makes sense still I just feel kinda unsettled by the "new" Peter. But I guess severe memory loss could do that to you.

not going to labour a point here, but to the posters saying the accent aint bad, let me ask you this, is there an accent from where you live? I'm pretty sure accents change in america, new york being quite dif from texan for example. Now imagine someone with your accent trying to past that off as a new york one ? it wouldnt work ( unless you from nyc , but you get my idea ) because you know what it should sound like..that and the simple fact the irish accent imho has been mangled so many times by actors / actresses it does annoy me..its annoying they can't get it right..despite how many times its been tried..but in the grand scheme of things it doesnt matter a wile pile..i still like this plot arc, & no amount of dodgy accents will change that...

are these oirish sudners or are they from narn ireland?

Too right they are!


In fact, they were never dollars in Ireland. They were pounds before they were euros.

Damn right. And the scottish accent has been mutilated by many Americans also. See grounds-keeper willie for example. Or Mike Myers.


One thing I definitely like about this arc is eventually he's going to meet up with his family, and I can't (but will) wait to see how it plays out. I've been spoiler free this season and I'm liking it!

hehe, they be sudners, from cork, so i'd call em knackers !



well done to you sir, i'd like to have the moral rectitude to avoid those pesky spoilers, but alas, my backbone is not made of balsa wood.

it will be interesting for sure to see how pete gets back, i've a feeling when he gets back he'll regret no getting there sooner, perhaps summat to do with the boogie man - ( get down , get down ) now i've got jungle boogie stuck in my head...

It's easy. I fill all my spoiler available minutes with Smallville spoilers. There aren't likely to be any unpredictable twists in it, so I don't mind.

Ok i am from england, born and bread in London all my life!

First things first, fact, Celtic actually won the game, 2-1, thought i would mention that, in the show AC Milan win!

Secondly, what the hell is going on with the accents?? i think they are on a level with leo and Cameron's in Gangs of New York! not good, not good at all!

and when the supposed "cockney geeza" (black dude) say's "football, you no! soccer!" i swear i held my head in my hands in shame, that was the worst, worst , worst , worst accent i have ever heard! i havent imdb'd that dude up, he s most defo american, but even if he was english, he deserves to be banished from acting, forever and ever and ever!

Yeah, this storyline for me started out well enough but with Peter's predictable resistance to open The Box and these useless Irish gangsters, it's just going downhill. The same goes for Hiro's storyline. I'm just ready for them to get in the now and do something interesting.

Know.

I agree that Personality isn’t linked to memories but it its greatly linked to one’s environment. The old Peter had an initimadating older brother whom he depended on all the time, a mother who expected nothing of him and a profession that requires someone with a kind and caring nature. Take all that away and replace them with Irish mobsters, a criminal lifestyle and a girl who accepts him no matter who he is and you get a completely different Peter. Plus we don’t know what kind of environment he was exposed to during the past four months. We’ve also seen in a lot of movies how various situations can change a man. We’ve seen a gentle family man become a cold-blooded killer when his family was murdered, a god-fearing Christian become a cunning thief when he needed money for his sick loved one, a sweet little girl turned into a prostitute after being molested…The list goes on and on…



Besides, not everything changed about him…He still cares a lot about others…He saved Caitlyn when he could have escaped before…And as Caitlyn said, she could see that he is a good person…So the Peter we all know is still in there…

you wanna a huge spoiler?

clarke kent is superman!

you just wait and see.

worse than ****** "stroik a loit marry poppins" van Dyke?

edit: i must say that this filter is complete and utter bollocks. the word which has been censored, if you needed to know was the shortened form of Richard... stupid arse!