Hello all! I am new at this, so bare with me please. I have been reading the posts, theories and stuff here and you all rock! It's great to see people that enjoy the same thing interacting. And we all love this Series, if not, why are we here?
Ok, I hope you all discuss this with me and we have fun. I think Molly is a pivotal character in this season. I dont know why, but since season 1 I had thought that the creators and writers had been seeting us up with something huge from Molly. After seen the preview of the next episode The Kindness of Strangers, I thought that Molly is gonna be an important story ark. Why does the new villain is bent on torturing her like he/she been doing? Is it simple evilness, or is there something more important? Many will say that he/she wants to use Molly's power to track down other heroes, but I don't think so, if that's the case, just go and take her from Mohinder and Parkman, I mean, I really love those 2 characters, but they could not be able to do much against this new villain if he/she really want to get Molly. So let me to believe there is something more.

My own theory is that Molly is not only capable of tracking this new villain down, but also see more about he/she that meets the eye... example of this, she can see the symbol in every vision that she had of he/she. Also, the voice of the new villain when Parkman heard what was going on in Molly's nightmare was sort of a sarcastic, evil and ironic voice, like he was enjoying torturing her. Creepy indeed!

And with that, I hope you all join me in theorizing what it is... I bet we can break the code of this series ... But seriously, hope you all join in this discussion. Thank you.

I think this is one really bad individual. From other areas I am making a theory about this character but I don't think here is the place for speculations.

I had the same question about why he just didn't come get her if he knows where she is. The only answer I can come up with is, he can see her but not where she is (because it is dark maybe, since it is at night)

Actually, I believe he/she knows. In episode 1 Bob told Mohinder that the company knew all about the my two dads scenario ( )...that Mohinder and Parkman were taking care of Molly. So, i think, if the company knows, the new villain does too. Is not been said that this new villain is part of the company, but it stands to reason that he is... I also think, like you, that this individual is really bad... and that he/she is not only bad, but sadistically bad. I also have a theory on who he/she is, but dont think i should post it here... what you think?

Post it in spoiler font or just send me a pm...

Well, I believe is Takezo Kensei but thats another whole can of worms... but it will make for a great season finale... if everything i am thinking is half correct

About Molly, something else occurred to me. What if i am looking at this all wrong? at first i was thinking he was torturing her to scare her silly and she wouldn't try to find him/her... but what if the reason he is doing it is to make her DO track him/her? From the previews i see that Nathan is going to be with Parkman solving all this and also that Mama Petrelli is going to reveal something about the Originals... what if this is the new villain plan all along? to draw them into this?

things that make me go hmmmmm

I believe that the boogeyman is Bob. (filler so that the shortness of the spoiler tag does not reveal it is only three letters.) It seems the most logical choice to me.

Hmmm, interesting, although it doesnt strike a chord to me. But, i am known to be wrong most of the time, so maybe you are right...

I still think that no matter who he/she is, its going to be a real piece of work...and that Molly is very important. But if it is who you think it is, i dont see the point of the torturing... he already know what she is capable, where she is and beside, he had her on his power before...and also, there is no need to find him, mohinder knows where he is almost all the time... i dont know, it doesnt sound right.

Still, i am very interested in any thoughts about what would Molly possibly means to this side of the story.

Here's the part of the puzzle I haven't seen anyone address yet: for Molly to track someone, she has to think about them, right? Well what was the reason Molly initially thought about this guy? She wouldn't just conjure up the idea out of the blue. So either the nightmare man is someone she has met (perhaps when her parents' murders were being investigated, or that has some sort of relation to her), or someone she was asked to think about (after the Company took her into custody). I think it's the latter. Is it possible that nightmare man, like Claude, turned against the Company, ripped out his implant, and the only way they could find him was to the use the little girl (until the virus took hold, anyway). And that since that time she has been unable to stop thinking about him, even in her dreams?

Wow ourtime99, i didnt thought of that, but it does make sense. If i may be bold to add to your theory, what if the new villain implanted him/herself in Molly's mind. If this new villain is also the one going after the originals, we already seen that he/she cant do something telephatically (the attack on Mama Petrelli) so maybe he/she can just go into Molly's mind and mess it up. We seen him attacking her in her sleep, when she is not tracking him/her, so it is possible he/she can get inside her mind as he/she will. And i agree that either 1)she knows who the new villain is or 2) the new villain knows her...

My thoughts line up with yours. HRG seemed to "know" about HALW (He's a lot worse). I am with you in thinking that the company put her onto him. My therory is after the first contact he can find her (at least when she is sleeping). Maybe he uses mirrors too (Nathan's strange reflection and Angela's attack... Maybe even Jessica/Niki whatever that was (I hope not for the last one though))).
I am still thinking that blowing up NYCity was the way to stop this nasty very very bad guy and our Heroes did not save the day when the explosion didn't happen last season. Just my thoughts.

so, here you're saying that the symbol on the face of Molly's drawings is *not* a physical attribute of the nightmare man?

Thats exactly right, it is not, in my opinion, a physical attribute.. it is something she see in him/her... is like she know things that arent visible of this particular villain..

A lot of people seem to think Bob is Molly's mysterious tormenter but personally I don't see it. WHile he can be intimidating at times, I can't see him sending a child into screaming fits. And he's definitely not scarier than Sylar. Plus, his power (Turning objects into gold) has nothing to do with the abilities the "Nightmare Man" has so far shown (Somehow surviving a fall off a roof, being able to see Molly whenever she thinks about him, etc)

My money's on it being a certain drunken englishman from ancient Japan, but obviously that's just a theory.

And a very good theroy at that ... i think the same and i think that we are not seen everything there is... Molly is very important in this story.

Save the Cheerleader, Save the World,

Save the Molly, Save the HRG (What with him being killed in the 8/8 picture)

I don't know if this has already been mentioned, but we should also keep in mind that the tormenter is somebody Molly has seen or heard of previously. For her powers to work [to my understanding,] Molly must picture or at least know the name of whomever she is "tracking." The fact that she knows the boogeyman can see her whenever she uses her power, [as Molly stated last season,] implies that she at one point tried to locate them. And unless she envisioned him in a dream, I do not think that her doing so was arbitrary.

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I bet it's deep-voiced Angela Petrelli. x]

Yes, i do think that she for some reason had to track the new villain and now she is paying for it. But what strike me is the constant attacks even when she is asleep and not tracking him/her. Thats what got me to think that he/she wants something from Molly, something that it will not be good for the heroes.

Anyone think maybe this new guy started the virus? I mean what if he went to Molly in her dreams and somehow gave her the virus through her dream? It would also narrow down my theory on who the big bad ****** is, Takazeo Kensei. My theory is that he controls all life, he can regenerate, heal others, ressurect himself and others, control insects and bugs and also manipulate bacteria and viruses.

Couple of things:

1) The only thing we know about whoever it is, is what's going on in Molly's head. Yep. I agree that she must know something about them to think about them in the first place, but we haven't got any other clues. Even other mysterious and sinister goings-on may be nothing to do with the one with the eyes. Clearly he's not very happy. Just like Claude wasn't happy when he found out Peter could see him. So maybe that's it, maybe this is someone with the same power as Molly, who doesn't appreciate being the subject of their own medicine.

2) Or maybe they work like a mirror. An evolved human who can use Heroes' powers against them. The Heroes seem to be immune to the effects of their own powers, but maybe there's someone who can hurt them! That would be pretty scary. He (or she) could burn Meredith, nuke Peter, even harm Claire?

3) Molly's first line in Kindred is "Mohinder! You're home!"...



Surely she knew this already? Or hasn't she been thinking about where Mohinder is? Why not?



Seems like a plothole, but the producers line seems to be "We don't make mistakes! There are no plotholes!" So... Is Mohinder the one Molly is afraid to think of but can't help dreaming about? Or is there someone else who will see and hurt Molly when she thinks of Mohinder?

1) that's an interesting observation. Some fellow members had posted the theory about Molly knowing or at least search for the Nightmare Guy before and thats why he can see her. I believe that when she tried to track him/her the first time she made a connection that the Nightmare Guy is now exploiting. But i do believe that this is connected to the killing of the Originals. I get this from the fact that now Nathan is going to help Parkman track the killer and both are looking for Molly for help (preview of The Kindness of Strangers).
2) That would be awesome if it is true! Imagine that, a person that can really give the heroes arun for their money if he/she can do that. Throw Peter or Hiro's ability right at their faces! too cool! And there are some hints of that. When Parkman was trying to read into Molly's nightmare, it seem that the Nightmare guy was teasing him, like goating him to try to go deeper.
3) i disagree. Remember that so far, Mohinder doesnt have an ability. And i am not sure, but i think it was established that Molly could track people with abilities only. Maybe i am wrong and would be glad if i get confirmation on this. So I dont think is Mohinder, that really would be a plothole. But using your theory, it is possible that she is afraid not of Mohinder but afraid for him. Maybe she saw something about the Nightmare guy that makes her believe Mohinder may be in danger. Parkman said it when he told Mohinder "you want to help Molly, dont get killed". What you think?

Thats another point that make me belief Molly is very important. As far as we know, the first one was Shanti and then Molly with the virus. After Molly, now we are seen proof that its spreadin, while the first 30 + years it didnt (as far as we know). But the thing is that both things are connected to Mohinder. That makes me think that if your theory is correct, maybe the nightmare guy did the same thing to Shanti back then as he is doing to Molly now. Maybe its a stretch but fun to consider

Mohinder wasn't even alive when his sister died. (Current story line not the origional.) So... he could not be the cause of the virus. (now, his Mama could be though...or daddy.)

No, you are right. But the Suresh last name is a link, i think. And i didnt mean Mohinder, i meant the nightmare guy could have infected Shanti. Shanti wasnt infected at the womb, she was already a girl when she died. Again, stretch, but hey, arent all our theories stretches anyway

Shanti was just a little girl. I think 5 when she died. That is younger than Molly.
Since Shanti had a "wonderful power (that made her father completely love her and base the rest of his life on researching her death) I think it is not too difficult of a jump to say that either Mama or Papa had an ability too.
My vote is Mama. I don't think it was intentional but she somehow gave the virus to Shanti.
Mohinder would be a carrier of the virus and now it is spreading around the Americas (North, South, and Central).

Mohinder has been told twice this season to NOT DIE.
Yes, I think Molly is major for this season but Mohinder is also.

Ohhh i Agree. The entire Matt, Mohinder, Nathan and Molly arch is in my opinion the most important. And i am glad Mohider is a huge part of this, his character is cool.

Wow! did you guys see the helix in Molly's eyes...way cool! Also, something tells me that there is more than meet the eye here. I am not that sure Papa Parkman is the "worst than Sylar" dude. I dont know, it doesnt seem right. I still think someone is playing trick to Molly and Parkman. Just for a thought, what if the Nightmare guy is projecting Papa Parkman's face on to molly so he can force Matt to go after him, he allowed her see exactly where he was supposed to be before neutralizing her. I still can swear the voice that spoke to Parkman when he was trying to read Molly's mind was british...maybe i am reading to much into it, but i am not convinced it is papa Parkman. We'll see tho... its getting awesome by the minute!

Like i said, The kindness of strangers is the one that is getting the ball rolling now.