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katlas77
Since the season started, they have killed off a Hero each episode.

Week 1: Kinto (maybe?)
Week 2: Kensai (he recovered though)
Week 3: Candance
Week 4:?

Who do you think might be the next to go? Or maybe the next attempt?
isitmondayyet?
is this who we THINK it will be, or who we HOPE it will be?

i THINK it'll be Angela Petrelli, but that's not a huge leap of logic, you know?

i HOPE it'll be Sylar*





* "Flame-shield on!"
katlas77
QUOTE (isitmondayyet? @ Oct 12 2007, 07:56 PM) *
is this who we THINK it will be, or who we HOPE it will be?

i THINK it'll be Angela Petrelli, but that's not a huge leap of logic, you know?

i HOPE it'll be Sylar*
* "Flame-shield on!"


either way is good. It would be a surprise if someone didn't get maimed this Monday, since they haven't missed yet!

I don't think it will be Angela, just like I don't think Kinto is dead. To many things left open.
into the blue sky
Peter got shot, too. Not exactly sure if he died, though, since he regenerated right away. Also, we discovered in the last episode that DL is supposedly dead, although that probably happened months ago.


I'm gonna say one of the twins are gonna die next. Either that or Claire plays dead again.

I agree with Monday, though. I hope Sylar goes. tongue.gif
HERΟ
I say Takezo Kensei will have another brush with death. Or Alejandro will get the Shanti virus...

Or Molly'll bite it, 'cuz you wouldn't expect it. Or Niki.

I don't know. The only thing I speculated about and got right was that the Shanti virus would affect HEROES this season - otherwise, I'm just gonna see what the storytellers have to share.

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YChip
I think Mama Petrelli's the most likely to be killed next...

I'm hoping for West though. Mama Petrelli is a close second.
aulduron
The story needs to kill Sylar, but the show needs ZQ.
HERΟ
(OT post...) Whoa! Three posts in the same minute?!? into the blue sky must have some kind of visual persuasion (kinda like Eden's vocal ability) to get people discussin' stuff! cool.gif
hulkamania85
QUOTE (aulduron @ Oct 12 2007, 07:48 PM) *
The story needs to kill Sylar, but the show needs ZQ.


Sylar has a twin brother perhaps?

I agree that Sylar needs to go. Is he really that popular?
into the blue sky
Sylar's twin...I like that idea.

He could be the end of Sylar, but still keep the ZQ fans happy.

Yay! biggrin.gif


QUOTE (HERΟ @ Oct 12 2007, 09:52 PM) *
(OT post...) Whoa! Three posts in the same minute?!? into the blue sky must have some kind of visual persuasion (kinda like Eden's vocal ability) to get people discussin' stuff! cool.gif

blink.gif Wasn't me.
HERΟ
QUOTE (into the blue sky @ Oct 13 2007, 03:34 AM) *
blink.gif Wasn't me.
Well, the thread might not've been on people's radar until you posted, or somethin'.
Ingtar
Another candidate is the guy with Claire's Rogue. I don't know if he counts as a hero though.

I suppose they could off Angela, but I suspect there are more plot points she is needed for.

And to Hero: 48, Memphis, TN, USA
Marlique
I'm sort of hoping for West to die tongue.gif Or Sylar. I'm getting tired of his game. We get it, he's psychotic and evil and eats brains.

(lol)
314
QUOTE (isitmondayyet? @ Oct 12 2007, 07:56 PM) *
* "Flame-shield on!"

Someone so needs to make a nice signature with Johnny Storm going "Flame shield on" as he turns up the fire lol.

As for who will die, the most likely candidate is Angela, the Twins seem to not be going out for awhile as there story is so played out lol...beyond that who knows..I doubt any of the "heroes" i.e. Niki, Peter and so on will get killed. Maybe someone in the Irish storyline will get killed..one almost already did when Peter went err lol.

One thing I find interesting are the people dying..don't die or aren't thought dead. Lots of people think Kaito is still alive, Kensei is still alive and Candice could still be alive if it was all an illusion so maybe what there doing is giving us deaths we think are real but aren't...or its just coincidence and/or fan's just wanting said dead people to still be alive.
Alessandra
Who do I want to be next? (Sorry in advance to those who love any of the character's) In order of most [my] hated character:
#1 ~ Niki
#2 ~ Angela
#3 ~ West


Who else do I dislike? Hummm... Oh yeah: Claire, but since she can re-grow body parts she cannot be killed...

Hold the phone! Holy-plot-hole: How is the heck did Sylar ever murder her, since she can re-grow body parts: mustn't that include organs. Right? So . . . Why didn't her brain just re-grow?

*Shakes head* Plot hole! Darn those Heroes writter's for making her toe re-grow instead of having her loose it, like they were going to originally...
314
QUOTE (Alessandra @ Oct 13 2007, 03:05 AM) *
Hold the phone! Holy-plot-hole: How is the heck did Sylar ever murder her, since she can re-grow body parts: mustn't that include organs. Right? So . . . Why didn't her brain just re-grow?

*Shakes head* Plot hole! Darn those Heroes writter's for making her toe re-grow instead of having her loose it, like they were going to originally...

Her power comes from her brain so if her brain is too damaged she can't use her power or if her brain is damaged in a certain place she can't use her power as shown when the stick was in her head..and if Sylar took the part of her brain that made her power work and took her power then she couldn't use her power...so the writers didn't screw up this time lol.

= UPDATE =
I just saw in the Spoiler section that by episode 6/7 we will still see:

West
The Twins
Caitlin
Yaeko
Bob
And all the normal characters.

So they are safe until then...however I saw nothing about Angela..ooo. laugh.gif

Ronald
QUOTE (Ingtar @ Oct 13 2007, 01:14 AM) *
Another candidate is the guy with Claire's Rogue. I don't know if he counts as a hero though.

I suppose they could off Angela, but I suspect there are more plot points she is needed for.

And to Hero: 48, Memphis, TN, USA

For one, I think West stole Claire's Rogue so that she wouldn't have a way to get around. I think his power has to do with gravity instead of flight. HRG or whoever is in the painting looks like the next victim. It could be mistaken for Bob.
314
QUOTE (Ronald @ Oct 13 2007, 03:42 AM) *
HRG or whoever is in the painting looks like the next victim. It could be mistaken for Bob.

If you mean the next victim in the next episode nope because as my last post showed in spoilers there alive by then still.
Alessandra
QUOTE (314 @ Oct 13 2007, 01:38 AM) *
Her power comes from her brain so if her brain is too damaged she can't use her power or if her brain is damaged in a certain place she can't use her power as shown when the stick was in her head..and if Sylar took the part of her brain that made her power work and took her power then she couldn't use her power...so the writers didn't screw up this time lol.
*smile* That's what I thought, but was not 100% certain of...
ImSoGreat
Niki needs to die. I've been tired of her since I found out about DL. She's the one that should be dead not him. I would normally throw Peter's name into the needs to die ring, but I'm actually enjoying his new story line, so =P on those who hate on it.
Mabes
what is with the sylar hating going on in here?

*loads gun*
SuperChris
For episode four, if you read spoilers than you know who it's going to be.
Ororo_Munroe
QUOTE (isitmondayyet? @ Oct 12 2007, 06:56 PM) *
is this who we THINK it will be, or who we HOPE it will be?

i THINK it'll be Angela Petrelli, but that's not a huge leap of logic, you know?

i HOPE it'll be Sylar*
* "Flame-shield on!"



I agree Angela is the likely victim. I don't imagine Alejandro is long for this world either, but imagine he will last a few more episodes.

Sylar? He isn't going anywhere. Well except to make a movie, and the power of his latest victim Candice will help tremendously during that time period. Haven't you heard: Sexy Serial Killers are the hot new thing (edit) on TV! wink.gif
Joe Ravenclaw
Angela is most likely going to be next, since she was supposed to die already.
Begemot Geroi
QUOTE (hulkamania85 @ Oct 12 2007, 08:15 PM) *
I agree that Sylar needs to go. Is he really that popular?

In a word? Yes.

He even has an army of evil supporters that do charity work. And we were mentioned in the latest edition of TV Guide. *Plug plug.*

So, yes, he is that popular.
Mabes
*snaps fingers*

boo-yah.
Sheindie
QUOTE (Ronald @ Oct 13 2007, 03:42 AM) *
For one, I think West stole Claire's Rogue so that she wouldn't have a way to get around. I think his power has to do with gravity instead of flight. HRG or whoever is in the painting looks like the next victim. It could be mistaken for Bob.

That guy in the jail has Claire's Rogue..also, West does fly and HRG is the victim in the painting, and not BOB.. ( I think) ..btw: check out Herosite .. they have a ton of stuff that's super interesting and makes you think. Angela is next, don't ya think?

QUOTE (hulkamania85 @ Oct 12 2007, 11:15 PM) *
Sylar has a twin brother perhaps?

I agree that Sylar needs to go. Is he really that popular?


Oh Man is he ever popular.. The latest T.V. Guide has an awesome interview with him and he mentions the SArmy (Sylar's Army).. also, thetvaddict interviewed him and he, Jeph Loeb, and Noah Cabey discussed the SArmy.. He was 'promoted' to a regular player and coming attractions sure focused on him.
http://www.sylarsarmy.com/

QUOTE (hulkamania85 @ Oct 12 2007, 11:15 PM) *
Sylar has a twin brother perhaps?

I agree that Sylar needs to go. Is he really that popular?


Oh Man is he ever popular.. The latest T.V. Guide has an awesome interview with him and he mentions the SArmy (Sylar's Army).. also, thetvaddict interviewed him and he, Jeph Loeb, and Noah Cabey discussed the SArmy.. He was 'promoted' to a regular player and coming attractions sure focused on him.
http://www.sylarsarmy.com/
BleuReivers
QUOTE (Ronald @ Oct 13 2007, 12:42 AM) *
For one, I think West stole Claire's Rogue so that she wouldn't have a way to get around. I think his power has to do with gravity instead of flight. HRG or whoever is in the painting looks like the next victim. It could be mistaken for Bob.
The guy in the jail has Claire's Rogue. The one with Maya and Alejandro... note the "GO CONQUISTADORS!" bumper sticker.


QUOTE (Begemot Geroi @ Oct 13 2007, 09:00 PM) *
In a word? Yes.

He even has an army of evil supporters that do charity work. And we were mentioned in the latest edition of TV Guide. *Plug plug.*

So, yes, he is that popular.
*Z-snap* mmhmm! lol.

He's a puzzle - he's not just a villain. he's a puzzle. And now he's got something wrong with him! And I want to know what it is! He CAN'T die yet!

*whisper* and he doesn't eat the brains */whisper*
lauryn
Some of you might want them to kill Sylar.. but lets face it.. it's not going to happen.. the amount of fans Sylar has... it's just not going to work. It would kill the show.

I think Angela will die..

I hope it's Peter though, or Hiro.. because they have just been annoying...

I also have this... *weird feeling* about Mohinder.. I'm not sure.. I love him to death.. but i don't think he's that...safe where he is now... Something about the whole "WE ARE ALWAYS WATCHING YOU" By Bob... Bob leaves the room.. and Mo gets on the phone with HRG... that's... slightly stupid...
Ronald
Does Sylar make his army because he lost his powers? I agree Sylar cant be the next victim because in comic books don't one defeated villian get together with another defeated villian to take on the Hero that beat them before. The boogyman need to be defeated so that Sylar and the boogyman can join together to defeat Peters group. Or is it Peter who has to get with Sylar to go against the boogyman.

I don't think it is Mohinder either, somebody who is with powers taking people out with powers. Perty much leaves Mohinder out.
kaoz22
QUOTE (hulkamania85 @ Oct 13 2007, 12:15 AM) *
Sylar has a twin brother perhaps?

I agree that Sylar needs to go. Is he really that popular?


YES

you haven't seen THE LIST I suppose lol..
YoungSaavik
Kill Sylar, kill the show.

I do mean it. He´s the reason me and a lot of people I know got so addicted. He´s one of the most complex characters I´ve ever seem in a T.V. serie, he´s an anti-hero more than a villain, he´s interpreted by a wonderful actor, his story line for this season seems very interesting, I´m very proud of being part of his army of evil supporters and, face it guys, if you bring it to real life, he´s the hero. I mean, the SArmy does charity. They can´t kill the character who inspired fans to help Give Life Foundation, it´s suicide.

If somebody dies next episode, my bet is Angela. But I hope she lasts enought to tell us more about the other members of the original group.
Mabes
QUOTE (Ronald @ Oct 14 2007, 05:40 AM) *
Does Sylar make his army because he lost his powers? I agree Sylar cant be the next victim because in comic books don't one defeated villian get together with another defeated villian to take on the Hero that beat them before. The boogyman need to be defeated so that Sylar and the boogyman can join together to defeat Peters group. Or is it Peter who has to get with Sylar to go against the boogyman.

I don't think it is Mohinder either, somebody who is with powers taking people out with powers. Perty much leaves Mohinder out.


No Sylar made his army because he was SOOOO mad at the blood shortage in the US.
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and it definitely won't be Mohinder. That would send Sylar on a ravenous rampage during which he would kill everyone on the show and Heroes would be no more.
Begemot Geroi
QUOTE (Mabes @ Oct 14 2007, 12:18 PM) *
No Sylar made his army because he was SOOOO mad at the blood shortage in the US.

I think that everyone who hates Sylar needs to go donate blood.
QUOTE (Mabes)
and it definitely won't be Mohinder. That would send Sylar on a ravenous rampage during which he would kill everyone on the show and Heroes would be no more.

I definitely agree with this. We know that's the real reason why he killed Candice/Michelle; she turned into him instead of turning into Mohinder. Now, if she'd turned into Mohinder...he probably wouldn't have killed her.
Anakoreta
Sylar? Why would anyone want to kill him, he awesome. In a creepy serial killer way.XD

Angela's my best bet.
rynzeski
Mr Muggles should be killed... Since he cannot do dog shows now, his life has no meaning. laugh.gif
MissFuneralSong
lol Mr Muggles.

It's definitely not going to be Sylar that dies! Due in part to his popularity, Zach's amazingness and the fact that they ONLY JUST signed him on as a series regular. They wouldn't kill off his character after doing that, not so soon anyway.

I think Angela is going to die. This new guy nearly got to her once, and she didn't look like she was able to defend herself. She is gonna get pwned. (probably)
Creator
Obviously, Angela Petrilli is a 'marked' woman. Her finding of the 'marked' photo outside Nathan's apartment, followed by the candid conversation with Kaito just prior to his death and the attack at police headquarters, would strongly suggest that she is the next Hero targeted for death. This would certainly motivate the new and improved Peter to come into his full power quickly, either to save her or to exact revenge.
Alordo
Sylar is a great anti-hero. The character is portrayed by a fantastic actor. He is the most loved character of the show.


So really, they should just kill off all the other unwanted characters, West, Niki, Claire, Peter, Nathan, Hiro, Matt, Mohinder, HRG, the Haitian, Molly, Micah, Ando, Maya, Alejandro, Caitlan, Ricky, Angela, and Bob, and make a show about Sylar hunting down people with powers, and the Company trying to stop him. Change the name of the show from Heroes to Sylar. That's clearly what the fans want. They don't want a show about people with special powers trying to fit in to normal life. They want to watch a psychopathic killer with a penchant for brains going around killing people and not being able to be killed or stopped. Yeah, that sounds exciting to me.

Yeah, I'm a little tired of the old "can't stop Sylar" bit. Take away his powers? He still killed someone without them. Yeah, he started out that way. What I'd like to see is him on the receiving end of a serious butt-whooping. Not that couple shots he received last season in a few episodes. I mean like five minutes of the show dedicated to him getting his rear end handed to him. To have him taste fear like his victims do. They do that, and I think I can stomach the character. I am a big proponent of the "no invincible hero/villain" style. One of the reasons why I don't like Superman. Sure get some kryptonite and he's a wuss. But up against most of his opponents, it's the same old humdrum battle.
HERΟ
QUOTE (Mabes @ Oct 14 2007, 01:54 AM) *
what is with the sylar hating going on in here?

*loads gun*
It happens. He's a villain.

A thread I made (now deleted) used to have a bunch o' custom games, where you upload a pic for the character in the game you play. It still exists in other forums, though. biggrin.gif

Anyway, if ya wanted to get your frustrations out about Sylar, then go boxing with Gabriel. cool.gif
ruppan
QUOTE (YoungSaavik @ Oct 14 2007, 09:32 AM) *
Kill Sylar, kill the show.

I do mean it. He´s the reason me and a lot of people I know got so addicted. He´s one of the most complex characters I´ve ever seem in a T.V. serie, he´s an anti-hero more than a villain, he´s interpreted by a wonderful actor, his story line for this season seems very interesting, I´m very proud of being part of his army of evil supporters and, face it guys, if you bring it to real life, he´s the hero. I mean, the SArmy does charity. They can´t kill the character who inspired fans to help Give Life Foundation, it´s suicide.

If somebody dies next episode, my bet is Angela. But I hope she lasts enought to tell us more about the other members of the original group.


How can you seriously call Sylar an 'anti-hero' or complex?

When I think of an antihero, I think of a peson that strives for heroic ends but uses unheroic means to accomplish those ends. The classic antihero would be Frank Castle, the Punisher.

Sylar on the other hand is about one thing: the selfish acquisition of power. Nothing else matters to the guy as evidenced by his reaction to Candace's offer in the last episode. If Sylar cared about anything other than increasing his power, he would have at least had a little fun with Candace and then killed her. (Define "fun" as you will. Having Candace and her power in a seperate person could have been very useful to Sylar in a number of situations without having to kill her.)

As Sylar has only one steadfast motivation/personality trait/defining aspect, which happens to be selfish, I also question why people would consider him complex. Is it the whole evolutionary imperative thing? You know that is a total crock right? I mean, if that were true, wouldn't Sylar have just given up his life and power when he encountered a special whose power was more advanced than his? For example Peter. Peter's power is very similar in effect to Sylar's, except Peter only needs to be in someone's proximity to have gained their ability rather than have to gouge that person's head open. A good argument could be made that Peter has advanced further on the evolutionary ladder than Sylar. So if Sylar were true to his evolutionary imperative credo, he would have given up to Peter. The fact that he didn't and nobody would have expected him to do so, means Sylar and everyone else knows that the evolutionary imperative thing is total BS.

I hate Sylar and I can't understand why people try to justify his actions. He's irredeemable. I just want Sylar fans to admit that the only reason they like the guy is because they're attracted to effeminate men. C'mon, admit it!
Ronald
Like with any comic book, its nothing without the usual hero and the usual villian. So, killing off the main charector either Hero or villian pretty much end it unless someone takes his place that is as powerful or more than the one before.
KarlG
QUOTE (Begemot Geroi @ Oct 14 2007, 12:00 PM) *
In a word? Yes.

He even has an army of evil supporters that do charity work. And we were mentioned in the latest edition of TV Guide. *Plug plug.*

So, yes, he is that popular.


Put it this way. Zachary Quinto is one helluva good actor. I don't usually diss my dear Ali, but he kicks everyone's butt, from Ali Larter to Hayden Panettiere. He can portray, good, bad, confused, thoughtful, anything you name it, you can do it.

I don't think Sylar will die, cos that character is way too popular. But Quinto's said he's going to leave for a bit, so perhaps the writers wrote in some hiatus for sylar or something.

I think Sylar will join the good guys and collaborate with Niki, Peter and the bunch to defeat Matt's daddy.

But somehow, perhaps he has to go 'find his powers' or something.
CrewWolf
I LOVE Sylar as much as the next person, but I think calling him an "anti-hero" is perhaps giving him a bit too much credit blink.gif

I'm sorry I have to burst some of yall's bubbles, but the man is a straight up villain. Love him for what he is, people.
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