That was sad.

But does anyone have any ideas as to what's going on with her now?

Well, when she looks for him he can see her back so maybe he could hurt her while she uses the power hence she was scared of him so much...and this time he did hurt her..poor girl.

i know. poor gal.

well i guess matt's dad caught her inner self. or something.

No idea. D:

Though she's apparently still functioning fine mentally, so maybe she got put into some sort of strange coma where her body isn't exactly working but her mind/conscious is still fine?

Poor Matt, all he can do is listen and can't help her at all.

It seems like Mollys...I dunno...mind? spirit? visits who she is looking for. Maybe Papa Parkman can sense that and..hold it prisoner?

Well, Toxic, it's looking like he can get inside people's heads and do horrible things to them. At least that's my first guess.

Mental/Spiritual attack, maybe?

it seemed like he is holding her prisoner inside her own mind

Put into a coma from what I figure. At least Matt can hear her. If Angela Petrelli were there, maybe she could "speak" to her!

"mmmmm little girl minde i'm gonna take u for mine" jk jk
any way kinda strange i'm thinking he has her prisenor

Nah, she just knows Parkman is listening and speaks is all.

I still feel bad for the kid.

I know I'd have the cupcakes scared outta me, were that to happen...

Matt's dad is horrible! He has crazy mind powers and it looks like he trapped Molly! Poor Molly.

Yeahh. Has to be some sort of emotional attack that he's capable of.

OMG.

He's the guy that attacked Angela!

It seemed he wasn't there!

But.. he can see Molly... he can see Angela... OMG!

LoL.

Maybe his power is to attack when his victims aren't physically present?

It's likely that Matt's dad is holding Molly prisoner inside her own head. Like she's still there, but she can't get out. Geez, that scared the stuffing outta me.

Let's be realistic. This show is about people with altered DNA. Apply the 'Collective Conscious' theory and Matt's dad can alter people's consciousness.

I was really ticked off at Matt for wanting to know where his father was - especially since he had experienced Molly's nightmare attacks. Anyways, I hope she breaks free. I part of me feels that Parkman's dad is using Molly to get at Matt... Dunno though.

Speaking of Angela Petrelli, did you notice the haze around the screen edges both when looking through Angela's eyes as she left the hospital and Molly's "eyes" looking out at Matt when she was looking for the nightmare man?

There's got to be a clue of some sort there . . .

That's sorta like what I said.

There's a connection.

Forget about Matt's dad... MATT is the horrible person here! Why would he make her do this? I mean you got the city, the address, even the floor... why do you absolutely need the apartment number, you fat greedy little brat? I don't like him no more.

Molly's life thus far


She is born.
She loves her parents.
She has a power.

Sylar breaks into her home, cuts open her dad's brain while he is eating his coa-coa puffs, and then freezes him at some point. Then he impales her mother to the door she is behind. All of this while Molly is watching.

A strange company takes her away.

Sylar comes and grabs here AGAIN.

The company moves her away again

She gets a rare diesease and almost dies

She witnesses all the crazy stuff that happened at Kirby Plaza

She has to live with Mohinder and Matt, and they are both acting like big children.

She has nightmares.

She is trapped inside of her own mind.

It really, reallly sucks to be Molly, doesn't it?

Looking at it from that perspective it really does suck. Poor Molly.

I totally agree. I was mad he made her keep going. I mean, he's the detective can't he do ANYTHING for himself!?! That's why he never made it as a cop in LA.

molly must be astral projecting herself when she finds people and matt's father can trap that astral projection with whatever power he has. So in a sense he has her. Matt hearing her thoughts would make sense because she would still have a minor link with her body.

So I assume that Matt's dad has a power involving with the psychological state of minds, somewhat just like Matt himself (at least between him and Molly). I guess his dad's power is a level stronger in a sense. He seems to be able to interact with others' minds while Matt can only hear their thoughts. He could've trapped Molly in her consciousness?

Well he could check room by room, then if his old man sees it and gets suspicious he might run.

He clearly felt like crap afterward. It wasn't like he expected that to happen. Matt's still cool in my book.

Okay so here is the speculation that Matts Dad is the Nightmare Man. Okay so that is what Molly said and okay it also makes since about Angela Petrelli getting hurt with nobody there. But and there is a But here how did Matts Dad Maury survive or fly away from talking Kaito off of the roof. and that guy was small too and matts dad is pretty big. ?? The who knows.

Maybe he got into somebodys mind and made them do it, instead? Who knows.

I'm going to go ahead and guess that astral projection has absolutely nothing to do with it, and she's not in some dream dimension with Angela Petrelli. I think it's pretty simple.

Her consciousness is no longer able to control her body, and it is stuck in her mind... in her dreams. She is alive, her body is *functioning*... but she can't control it. All she knows is that she was thinking, she was in her dreams/in her mind, and suddenly, the nightmareman locked a mind door and now she is stuck in there. Not physically... not like a ghost where she can walk around in her dreams.. shes merely a thought running around in her mind..

Thats why, as of right now, Matt is the only person who can make any contact with her (other than the nightmare man).. he can hear her thoughts, so he can hear her thinking-screaming for help, but obiouvsly can't talk back since his power is a one-way-connection... in.

Basically, Molly dug too deep, close enough to the exact point of the boogeyman and he was finally able to get her, but only in her dreams. In the mental aspect.

I REALLY like this idea of astral projection, it makes a lot of sense. I wonder what Papa Parkman could want with her anyway? What is his deal?

At least she's still conscious, I was so afraid she'd died

Matt REALLY ticked me off in this episode.

well molly told them where exactly where Matts father was so you would think that mat in an angry rage gose to fund his father to try and rescue molly

After seeing all the posts, I really do think Molly has been 'captured' by Matt's father somehow. I think Matt will rush to his apartment and demand for Molly's freedom.

Maybe Molly has another "half". Since one of the halves has been 'captured' (just a prediction, cannot be confirmed), and she needs to be one whole to be conscious, she is now in a 'coma' in Matt's aparment.

Well, just my thought.

I thought it was kinda neat that she passed out. I'm sure she'll be revived soon enough.

The astral projection thing is out of place cause if she would do that then everyone would be able to see her, not only the nightmare man.

Other than that, what matt did showed once again how immature he actually is and that his biggest weakness he showed a few times already always gets him and others in trouble. Maybe he should start first Thinking and then Acting? -.-

I'm wondering if this is going to be a catalyst that helps Matt explore his potential. I'm thinking Matt's father has far more advanced mental abilities - kind of like Professor X (but without the moral quarms).

Matt certainly was an idiot over this, but then he is desperate - I think.

i say Mohinder should get that kid (sanjog iyer) who can enter a person's dreams and save molly

That could be interesting! I just hope they don't make him speak again..

Maybe Matt's Dad wasn't the one who knocked Kaito off the roof. Maybe it was somebody else. Any ideas?

Not to make this scary situation even scarier, but I think Matt's dad (the Nightmare Man) has not only trapped Molly inside her mind (in a kind of perpetual dream/nightmare state), but that he's doing terrible "nightmare" things to her while she's there. That's going to be one seriously messed up kid when she wakes up!

$0.02,

BP

I am going to add my $0.02 on this thread. Maybe we are seen this the wrong way. What if (and i granted is a big if, but let just speculate) is not Papa Parkman. From what i have read about many speculations, astral projections and the likes, couldnt it be is the other way around, SOMEONE ELSE is using Papa Parkman's image to project his face to Molly. I have said that i thing the Nightmare guy want the heroes to search for him (why then the constant torturing of poor Molly, scaring her once was enough if he wanted her away from him). Lets see if we can come up with something. What we know:

-We assume the nightmare guy either is part of the 12 or work for the company, or at least know their secrets.
-the company knows about Molly and what she can do.
-they also know she is with Mohinder and Matt.
- The nightmare guy is relentless in attacking Molly for no apparent reason.
- he doesnt want to get her, if he was, he already done so...he knows where she is.
- and... i dont know if you guys catched this, but he LET her find out everything, didnt stop her (which according to what she had said, it could have been easy for him to do so) before she managed to get all the info Matt wanted.

I dont know if i am reaching, but i think Matt's dad is maybe already dead, or controlled by the Real Nightmare Guy... your thoughts?

i REALLY like this idea.. i remember reading your other thread and i think you could be right. it does seem like he WANTED to be found.. i wonder why though.

how does the company know where Molly is? Did I miss that. I didn't think it was common knowledge that Mohinder and Matt were "shacking up."

And I don't know how i feem about Matt's dad being dead or controlled.. seems a little too zombie like.. even for heros

I think it will be cool if Matt has to go into her mind, and he has a trippy battle with the Nightmare Man in a Kirby-esque 'landscape' of Molly's distorted dreams! That would rock!

Lewis

Not zombie, what i meant is... how difficult for a person with mental abilities would be to implant a false image into a kid's mind? Maybe the image of papa Parkman is a false image implanted by the real nightmare guy.

Also, in episode one of this season, Bob told Mohinder while they were having coffee that the company knew all about their "my two dad's" scenario (lol) and that they weren't going to interfere... is in epi 1 "four months later"

Christy:
Yeah, since the begining that has been in my mind... it bugs me to no end that the nightmare guy is sooo hell bend on torturing this poor kid... and is not to scare her silly, he already did that the first time he did it. Why keep at it, even when she is not looking for him (in her dreams, i dont think molly can look for him while sleeping, she needs to concentrate hard on the person to be able to find him). Thats what bothers me. Maybe i am just looking it the wrong way, but i dont know.

Unless I find out otherwise, I will go with the simplest answer (Occam's Razor), and say that "Nightmare Man," is actually Matt's dad.

Me i go with a timeless hollywood rule... if an answer is so early on in the game and so easy...is probably misdirection... by fourth episode we already know not only who he is but also that is Parkaman's dad (we are talking about the greatest villain of this season and we already know)...to easy to early... it never fails in TV and hollywood. LOL

Matt should so get Molly a pony for that.

Or..the nightmare guy has been hiding in plain sight the whole time, all while carefully manipulating the others like pawns on a chess board. Ask yourself this question..how many people have actually seen or heard the nightmare guy?

Yes, but this is Heroes, not Murder She Wrote. How disappointing would it be for this entire season to be a who dun it mystery only to reveal the killer as some unknown face and then have the story be over? If this guy is the greatest villian of the season, I would think they'd need to introduce the character sooner rather than later so that we actually get to see some screen time of this guy being bad. It would be different if it was an established character, but since it is a new character, they have to introduce him sometime. Can you imagine if during season 1 they only ever showed bits and pieces of Sylar and never revealed his face until the events in Kirby plaza, only for everyone to realize it was no one they had seen before? ( and can you image the overwhelming number of Peter is Sylar, Nathan is Sylar, Isaac is Sylar, Mr.Muggles is Sylar, Simone is Sylar...threads?)


Also, we don't know for a fact that Mr.Boogeyman and the killer are one in the same, so we might find out in a few episodes that he is also being targeted.

ahhhh...but who said anything about been an unknown face
remember sylar in season 1...it wasnt until the 7th or 8th episode that we knew who he was...wait, more, it was in homecoming and that was like epi 9 if i am not mistakes.