Matt Parkman's dad? I did NOT expect that. What do you guys think?

And his powers! I'm thinking he could trap people's dreams or something like that.

I think most of us can agree whoever pushed Kaito off the roof didn't looks big enough to be Matt's father. I think this whole thing with Matt's dad being the bad guy is all to throw us off.

So here is my theory...

The Nightmare-Man, I'll just call him Kane since thats who we all think it is, can see Molly in her dreams. We also know he is killing all the old Heroes one by one. So he obviously has Matt's dad targetted. Whats to say Kane isn't holding Matt's dad captive? Or that he's projecting images of Matt's dad into Molly's head in order to lead Matt to him for some reason. I just don't think Matt's dad is the Nightmare-Man... Sure we don't know a lot about him, but I just don't think it fits.

I'm starting to think that Matt's dad might be what's getting into Nathan... maybe he has a way of controlling people when he's in their mind. Nathan could have been the one who killed Kaito. He might be trapping Molly inside her own head or something in order to keep her from helping Matt.

Hex, you pretty much said what I was thinking. There's a really good chance his powers are like some amalgam of Matt and Eden's. There's a real possibility that this is a red herring, or the Boogieman and the Killer are not one and the same, but if the two are linked, there's a good chance he physically controlled the first killer and then tried to use Angela against herself.

I disagree.

I think Molly calls him the "nightmare man" for a reason. The reason why we didn't see anyone in the interrogation room during Mrs. Petrelli's attack was because he didn't have to be there to attack her, he seems to have the ability to attack from a remote location. His attacks are purely in his prey's minds, it seems. In essence, they see "nightmares", but ones that can physically harm or kill them.

So the "man" who pushed Kaito off the building wasn't a man at all, it was a "nightmare", and Kaito recognized it for what is was.

That's the impression that I've gotten.

I imagine whoever shoved Kaito off the roof was an extra so I'm not taking to much stock in the size of the hooded guy. Just my thoughts on it though.

I guess. But then he would have had to put that nightmare in Ando's head too. I don't know... Matt's dad? It just seems too cliche. Whatever happened with Kane then? His character name was announced and I thought Anders was cast as him. Who knows anymore.

i like this, although i think i am leaning toward the idea that Matt's dad isn't the mastermind of this stuff, he just looked to jolly, like Santa. I am thinking that who ever is behind all this is controling and manipulating people to do what he wants. Maybe he was behind the whole Jessica thing and Nathan seeing a burnt image of himself. THe preview of the next episode did say that "nothing seems like what it really is "or something like that

This boogyman guy could just be sending certain people to kill the others. Thus the "I'm surprised they sent you" comment? What excatly did Kaito say? Just a thought.

I just saw the Canadian preview and I think you're right. "So this is why Molly calls him the nightmare man" and then we see Nathan with his melted face and we see him finding Peter on the roof. Its all a nightmare. He projects nightmares into people's heads, just like he did to Angela. But, like Flymon said, I don't think he is the mastermind behind it all.

Matt's dad didn't look that creepy to be the "nightmare man". He looked like a jolly fat guy. (Unless he dressed up like a scary clown from Stephen King's "IT"!) He probably does have a power, and maybe left Matt to protect him in some way. The projecting nightmares seems like a plausible power for this situation.
I wonder who else's parents were in the picture? We know it's hereditary..let's see..
-Nathan & Peter's Mom and Dad
-Hiro's Dad
-Matt's Dad
There's probably someone else's 'rents on there too...

We know matts dad was a criminal.

We know he stole money.

Lets take a leap of faith and say he was into coke.

That slims a guy up, knowwhatimean?

The only thing that doesn't add up to me is the fact that for some reason, I seem to remember that Hiro was adopted by Kaito and isn't related to him by blood. Please, correct me if I'm wrong.

You're wrong. I think you're confusing the scene with baby claire and kid hiro playing the game boy on top of the Deveaux building. Hiro is blood, Claire is the one adopted by Noah Bennet.

Yea, Hiro's his real son. I think in the last episode in the first season he says something along the lines of "I've been waiting for a Nakamura to ascend." Which still leaves me wondering in Kaito had powers or not...

Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. To get back on-topic, I really don't think that Parkman's dad is pure unadulterated evil, I think that his powers may be something of a combination of Molly's and Charles Deveaux's but that it's being manipulated through some other means (Kane, maybe...or some other power..." Maybe Matt's dad is simply reaching out to the only other person living that can "see" him in hopes of getting help?

It's possible that Parkman's father has just been trying to scare the girl enough so that she would stop trying to find him, but she can't help doing it when she's asleep. He might be so paranoid about someone using her to catch him that he's willing to traumatize a little girl to keep his location secret. We don't know that he's bad, we only know that Molly is terrified of him, and that she thinks he's worse than Sylar.

i agree w you. or maybe he knows that matt parkman has adopted molly...

but why molly? hmm... im skeptical about the part which says that he project nightmares into people, bcos angela petrelli was like ATTACKED. madness! and why couldnt molly escape him? im guessing she couldnt control her powers and he was stronger thats why she couldnt resist against him. :/

Remember, the most insidious of serial killers are the ones who look least capable of killing, or are even quite charming. (Such as Ted Bundy.) I'm not sure what would qualify as "mastermind", as the writers haven't given us a reason yet why he would want to kill the members of the group. Revenge, malcontent? Over what, precisely? I'll have to check the episodes I DVR'ed, I'm sure during the conversation between Kaito and Angela, that it was mentioned that they suspected one of their members being 'sour' over the work their group did. (I suspect they did a lot of things as a group, from Linderman arranging DL and Niki to get together and produce an advanced offspring, to the botched explosion/election of Nathan. Sort of like electing themselves into the role of Powers That Be. In that aspect, you could call all of the twelve members "masterminds".)

I also suspected that Nathan was seeing a burned image of himself either from the Nightmare Man's influence/power, or perhaps from his own guilt. I'm leaning towards his guilt, though, the writers seem to be fond of visual cues like that.




You missed my point entirely. I theorize that his ability to project nightmares isn't just on an illusion basis (for example, Candice's power to change a person's percevied surrounds, though those surroundings cannot harm the person), but that he can conjur "nightmares" to attack or even kill his targets. Angela was attacked - by the "Nightmare Man" - via projected nightmares. Much like a psychic attack than can manifest physically. It makes one imagine the "Nightmare Man" as a puppeteer, controlling his nightmare manifestations from a distance.

Again, this is just my opinion. :]

Does that mean Molly actually goes to sleep when she wants to find someone? Nightmares are dreams gone bad, right? So, what if this guy doesn't necessarily induce nightmares, just their biggest fears, like, it's all in their head.

As Candice can produce illusions, maybe this guy can produce your worst nightmares. or at least seem to.

Am I making any sense here? Maybe he's also capable of producing good, but chooses not to.

Isaac Mendez's parent could be there as well. I wouldn't like it, but it could explain how he met Simone to begin with (and when he saw Uluru in his bathroom it could have been Maury Parkman's doing for unkown reason).

One big question is, who were Molly's parents? Was it the mom or dad who had the freezing power, and who were their parents? Is Molly the grandchild of one of the 12? If she is, maybe Matt's dad is after her for that reason.

I don't think he's after her. I think his power lets him know when she's locating him and he's projecting nightmares in her head to scare her away, since as Matt Parkman stated so well: "criminals don't want to be found".

SPOILER TAGSSS !!!!!!! jesus way to ruin stuff for people

Ok the nightmare man has powers like molly but stronger, using the subconscience. Molly can pinpoint people by "thinking" about them. But she is too young to know her full power yet.

Let's go back to season 1

Peter passes out and visits Charles D. (The Original Empath - I'll tell you why in a second..)
Charles thinks peter is the one that will save them not Nathan. He reaches out to Peter the same way the boogeyman can see molly through her subconscience. Charles isn't dead, he's in hiding. Why is he a Empath. Charles says... "Invisiblity, that would of been a nice one to have" So the same way Charles uses this power is the same way the boogeyman uses it.

The Boogeyman has NOTHING to do with Kaito. He's just doesn't want to be found because he's in hiding just like the rest of the original 12. He knew he did no good and people will be looking for him.

Remember Nathan was supposed to testify AGAINST his father in Season 1... But didn't Nathan have ties with Linderman?

Testify against papa and everything will come out of the older generation... So you "die" and anyone connected "dies"

As for Kaito killer, that's a whole different story which I won't even get into here. But it has to do with either Kensei being papa, and wanting revenge, (see my point about Nathan testifying against papa) or Kensei being used as a science expirement to produce other heroes from samples of his blood, pieces of his skin, tortured, prodded and tested. (All the stuff HRG said the company does and Angela alludes to.) Maybe someone let the father of all heroes (Kensei) loose and now he wants his revenge. I'd go into hiding, trap any kid in their own head looking for me and fake my death too if I knew Kensei was coming to get me.

I was almost thinking the same thing, but visa versa. I thought Molly was right on with saying Matt's Daddy is Nightmare Man, but do you really think he's the killer of 12? Just a thought...

First time poster long time reader..here goes. So, Matt's Dad is the Nightmare Man. Great. Does this mean his powers are dream-based? I don't think so and here's why: while Molly does refer to him as The Nightmare Man (because he's started appearing in her nightmares) she originally says that he can see her when she looks for him. Also, when she looks for him in Ep 2.04 he sees her and does something awful to her mind and the poor thing passes out.

Also, it appears that the wounds Angela Pettreli received in 2.03 were self-inflicted. This suggests that someone took over her mind and drove her crazy. Maybe Mr. Parkman Sr. had something to do with this too. He could have shown her something really horrible that made her dig her nails into the flesh of her face, or maybe he was controlling her actions remotely. Or probably a bunch more ideas too...

Just a thought...or a few...oh, and I think that Mr. Parkman Sr. is making Nathan see the "monster face" too.

I don't think the Nightmare Man's powers are limited to sleeping victims. (I don't believe I've ever stated that, it is just the name Molly coined). I think his attacks are illusion/empathy based, perhaps affecting both conscious and unconscious victims, "nightmares"/illusions that can actually hurt people. Heck, I'd even go so far to venture and say that Angela's wounds after the "attack" on her could even have been psychosomatic, which fits neatly into the "nightmare" theory. Nightmare = in the mind = psychosomatic response = wounds on the body. Such as, if Angela thought she was being cut or scratched while she was being "attacked", then the wounds would show up on her body. (Psychosomatic: of, relating to, involving, or concerned with bodily symptoms caused by mental or emotional disturbance.)

Whew. I hope they clear this up soon, so I know if I'm thinking too much into this all or not.

i personally reckon west will be the one who pushed kaito of the roof i dont know why justy a hunch and the nightmare man is to throw us off

I think the Nightmare Man is Christopher Walken.

.....when Chuck Norris goes to sleep, he checks his closet for Christopher Walken.

Is anyone familiar with comics and heard of "The Shadow King"?

A friend and I have been watching and definitely think that his powers were similar to that of this "Nightmare Man".