madmab
Oct 15 2007, 10:51 PM
As soon as Molly said that his dad was the boogeyman. He should have asked her to locate the "other" people in the picture first. So he would have an idea where they were before he risked looking for the "boogeyman"..
Ah well... hasn't been the first time we see Matt do something without thinking..
theJollity
Oct 15 2007, 10:54 PM
QUOTE (madmab @ Oct 15 2007, 11:51 PM)

Ah well... hasn't been the first time we see Matt do something without thinking..
Although I'm starting to dislike Matt more and more each episode, I can't help but admire that certain characteristic trait of his... the man who reads minds doesn't think before he acts. Nice little irony there, wouldn't you say?
314
Oct 15 2007, 11:06 PM
QUOTE (theJollity @ Oct 16 2007, 02:54 AM)

Nice little irony there, wouldn't you say?
Ya lol.
Really Matt shouldn't of put Molly through that in the first place and the fact that said man could see & probably hurt her should of made him wait a tad bit longer. But then again he found out his dad was in danger or the one putting these people in danger so he just jumped on finding him forgetting all the other people.
Either way we know who the bad man is which is nice.
Ali
Oct 16 2007, 01:42 AM
The irony is amusing. I find it dumb of Matt to get Molly to find the boogeyman when he can see her and knows if she has found him, is he really likely to sit around where Molly located him and wait for Matt? If he wanted to be found he would go to Matt himself but it's obvious he'd just pack up and leave when he's been caught
Buffster
Oct 16 2007, 02:08 AM
I didn't understand why he let Molly go all the way. She had no problem finding the complex, which would have probably been enough. Instead he makes her locate the floor as well, still not much of a problem though. But then he even insists on letting her find the specific apartment, bringing her in unnecessary trouble.
tornadoalley
Oct 16 2007, 06:06 AM
QUOTE (madmab @ Oct 16 2007, 01:51 AM)

As soon as Molly said that his dad was the boogeyman. He should have asked her to locate the "other" people in the picture first. So he would have an idea where they were before he risked looking for the "boogeyman"..
Ah well... hasn't been the first time we see Matt do something without thinking..
Sylar = boogeyman (which I always thought sounded really silly coming out of her mouth, she speaks like an adult otherwise)
Matt's father = Nightmare man.
Pr4t4
Oct 16 2007, 06:31 AM
Maybe Matt wanted to know why his father left him when he was 13... Maybe he wanted the truth very VERY badly. So bad that he couldn't spare Molly, the innocent. Well, every action has a consequence, and now Molly is in a 'coma'. Sad sad.
Willow77
Oct 16 2007, 06:52 AM
QUOTE (Buffster @ Oct 16 2007, 06:38 AM)

I didn't understand why he let Molly go all the way. She had no problem finding the complex, which would have probably been enough. Instead he makes her locate the floor as well, still not much of a problem though. But then he even insists on letting her find the specific apartment, bringing her in unnecessary trouble.
That may have been my single biggest beef with the episode - Matt's a cop - he knows what his father looks like - was it absolutely necessary to get the DOOR NUMBER? UGH
schreier
Oct 16 2007, 06:54 AM
QUOTE (Willow77 @ Oct 16 2007, 10:52 AM)

That may have been my single biggest beef with the episode - Matt's a cop - he knows what his father looks like - was it absolutely necessary to get the DOOR NUMBER? UGH
I think the door was just artistic license. Honestly, they could have ended it at any point with the nightmare man trapping molly ... it just is cinematic to have the door opening
Jahandar
Oct 16 2007, 07:43 PM
I also liked the other ironic thing about Matt's power. He can read minds but not words due to his dyslexia.
Joe Ravenclaw
Oct 16 2007, 08:41 PM
Umm... there was no way to predict what was going to happen when he asked her to look for the nightmare man. Plus, why would matt want to find the others anyway? He doesn't know about the plot to kill the original twelve, so there would be no reason to look for them.
mishmash34
Oct 16 2007, 09:18 PM
QUOTE (Joe Ravenclaw @ Oct 16 2007, 09:41 PM)

Umm... there was no way to predict what was going to happen when he asked her to look for the nightmare man. Plus, why would matt want to find the others anyway? He doesn't know about the plot to kill the original twelve, so there would be no reason to look for them.
He doesn't? If I'm not mistaken, he said he needed to find these people (to Mohinder) because many of them were dead and needed to warn them (or something to that effect). Sure it was just his excuse for wanting to find his papa, but it also implies he at least suspects they may be targets.
Also, I agree with the fact that they could have had the Nightmare Man find Molly just with the floor and that they just wanted the shot of the open door. However, it also allows them to show what an incompetent cop Parkman really is. He's got to be one of the most pathetic characters in the history of television.
dcg
Oct 17 2007, 07:44 AM
Parkman is high on my list of characters I don't like. Not because he is bad, just because he is so stupid. What a dope.
Tularis
Oct 17 2007, 08:04 AM
I think people are being a bit harsh. Matt is an ordinary normal guy who finds himself in over his head constantly. For the first time ever, he found a way of finding his father, something who he mentioned he spent quite some time before. of course he was excited, of course he wasn't thinking. Its easy to say "I would have gone for the other 11 people too," but how many times have we overlooked details like that? He is written to be an ordinary, somewhat simple-minded person.
Raekon
Oct 17 2007, 08:14 AM
Well Matt already knew through Angelas interrogation that all those people are in danger including his dad.
So there is no excuse that "he didn't knew". What I mean is the "who want's revenge Ms. Petrelli?" scene that resulted to one of the scenes I loved most this season "Get out of my head!".
However, even Molly said she will help him, he actually should had stopped after she said "he sees me, he is coming" instead of saying "common Molly just the appartment number, what is it? what is it?"
I mean when she says "I don't wanna go further, he knows I'm here" than he should had been satisfied that he already knows where his dad is and on which floor as well.
In his case, he would only need to go to the third floor of this building and start reading thoughts outside of each appartment to see in which appartment his father is if he wouldn't like to knock on the doors. -.-
Oh well.. Some people are just too greedy.
darkcreole
Oct 17 2007, 09:18 AM
I'm surprised that no one metioned (unless it's in another thread) the obvious "9" reference again. 9th wonders, apt 9, nine of them left , and other 'nine' related stuff that was talked about in the past.
isitmondayyet?
Oct 17 2007, 10:13 AM
Matt's pretty impulsive. remember how he went looking for Sylar at Isaac's loft all on his own? you'd think a handful of bullets would slow him down a little
activatingevo1
Oct 17 2007, 10:14 AM
QUOTE (Ali @ Oct 16 2007, 06:42 AM)

The irony is amusing. I find it dumb of Matt to get Molly to find the boogeyman when he can see her and knows if she has found him, is he really likely to sit around where Molly located him and wait for Matt? If he wanted to be found he would go to Matt himself but it's obvious he'd just pack up and leave when he's been caught
but actually in my opinion, thats what he did... he waited an awful long time to do anything while Molly found the city, the building, the floor and the number... strange eh?
But i agree, and Mohinder said it best... "all i see is a 13 year old kid who wants to get back at his father". Hopefully Matt will redeem himself of this blunder.
dcg
Oct 17 2007, 12:07 PM
QUOTE (activatingevo1 @ Oct 17 2007, 02:14 PM)

but actually in my opinion, thats what he did... he waited an awful long time to do anything while Molly found the city, the building, the floor and the number... strange eh?
But i agree, and Mohinder said it best... "all i see is a 13 year old kid who wants to get back at his father". Hopefully Matt will redeem himself of this blunder.
It was mostly Matt's fault, but some of the blame has to fall to Mohinder also.
Visitor27
Oct 17 2007, 12:41 PM
QUOTE (dcg @ Oct 17 2007, 12:07 PM)

It was mostly Matt's fault, but some of the blame has to fall to Mohinder also.
Well, the season is all about gulit, oy!
Sifr
Oct 17 2007, 07:19 PM
On the other hand you have to admit that he had pretty good reasons for doing what he did.
For one he knows that his father is now tied to the 12 and could be either danger or the key to who's attacking the 12, so he has to get answers from him.
Secondly he wants to get even because he wants to know why his dad was a criminal and left him when he was young, which is a good clue to why he became a cop, he wants to put people like his father behind bars where they belong.
And thirdly... your dad is attacking your adopted daughter every night in her dreams. Are you just going to let that happen or aren't you gonna track him down and kick his arse?
mantisboxer
Oct 18 2007, 04:19 AM
QUOTE (Sifr @ Oct 17 2007, 10:19 PM)

On the other hand you have to admit that he had pretty good reasons for doing what he did.
For one he knows that his father is now tied to the 12 and could be either danger or the key to who's attacking the 12, so he has to get answers from him.
Secondly he wants to get even because he wants to know why his dad was a criminal and left him when he was young, which is a good clue to why he became a cop, he wants to put people like his father behind bars where they belong.
And thirdly... your dad is attacking your adopted daughter every night in her dreams. Are you just going to let that happen or aren't you gonna track him down and kick his arse?
Amen. Matt went into protective father mode. We have seen Noah Bennet in this situation before too, where he loses his mind a bit in trying to protect Claire. HRG has made some dumb decisions when it comes to being protective of his family, even to the point of risking his wifes sanity by having her mind wiped constantly. Matt did what any dad would do - "tell me where the bully lives, and I will go handle this". Being a dad can make you an idiot sometimes. I have been there myself!
ZuZu
Oct 18 2007, 01:48 PM
But, the point isn't that he had her track him down. At least, not for me.
It's that he made her go get the apartment number. All he needed to know was the building, and surely he could have found him from there, being the mind reader he is.
He put her into unnecessary danger.
dcg
Oct 18 2007, 01:57 PM
Matt & Mohinder are guardians. Adoptions do not go through in 4 months that I know of. I like the idea of Molly with Mohinder but not Matt. Matt is not playing with a full deck upstairs. We've seen that from season # 1. Oh well.
CrewWolf
Oct 18 2007, 08:29 PM
Man, I marked Matt as a 4 out of 5 for intelligence/cleverness on a quiz. Now I feel rather silly. My skewed view of Matt's greatness becomes clear to me now.
Leek
Oct 18 2007, 08:41 PM
QUOTE (isitmondayyet? @ Oct 17 2007, 02:13 PM)

Matt's pretty impulsive. remember how he went looking for Sylar at Isaac's loft all on his own? you'd think a handful of bullets would slow him down a little
Most literally

He knew what he did the moment after he did it. The last shot of his face trying to wake up Molly. He had totally over looked the well being of this little girl. I hope Mohinder slaps him when we come back to the scene next week.
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