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Seclusion
Since the Fight or Flight forum has been made, i thought we should make this too.

Please keep all discussion about Elle here, as to prevent 500 Elle discussion topics. =)
Sander
So who'se daughter is she then? Bob?
prander
What exactly is her power, is it electricity or electromagnetism?
Zensu14
QUOTE (prander @ Oct 23 2007, 02:35 PM) *
What exactly is her power, is it electricity or electromagnetism?


Methinks she's either an electrokinetic (manipulates electricty) or a bio-electrokinetic (creates electricity from body)

But I'm personally leaning toward the latter.
Dogsend
Click to view attachmentElle wears a large ring on her left index finger.

In Nathan's picture of the 12, someone at the the right side of the picture is wearing a large ring on the right index finger. I think the hand with the ring belongs to the woman standing in the back row between Bob and Matt's father. On the other hand, the hand could belong to the little guy with the grey hair who is kneeling at the far right of the front row.

Alessandra
I like her [Elle]. Even though she seems pretty much: Evil. Maybe that is what I enjoy most about her? For the longest time we've been given 'heroes' who are afraid to use their power, Elle is a brisk change from that ever boring pace...
isitmondayyet?
i was all set to hate her character, but i already think she's a better villain than Sylar or Candice

"Fine, I killed him. Jeez!" laugh.gif
Alessandra
I know. That was the best line of the night!
JadeDestiny
I like her too...I have never seen Veronica Mars...not sure I have seen Kristen in any other shows or movies...so I didn't know what to expect.

Sometimes with movie or tv villains the actors tend to ham it up too much or they just aren't believable in the role. Elle is being played extremely well. I don't know if she has played bad guys before, but Kristen Bell is making her character very interesting to watch smile.gif

QUOTE (Alessandra @ Oct 23 2007, 06:03 PM) *
I like her [Elle].
Seclusion
Has any one else noticed the amazing control she has over her power? Im pretty sure this was the purpose of Elle frying Ricky. I mean she can create at will a tiny spark to wield a lock or a massive surge capable of killing; no other character has the amount of control.
canadianprincess
QUOTE (Alessandra @ Oct 23 2007, 06:03 PM) *
I like her [Elle]. Even though she seems pretty much: Evil. Maybe that is what I enjoy most about her? For the longest time we've been given 'heroes' who are afraid to use their power, Elle is a brisk change from that ever boring pace...



i agree. shes not afraid of her power. i guess we'll see a lot of it then! lol
canadianprincess
QUOTE (Seclusion @ Oct 24 2007, 09:14 AM) *
Has any one else noticed the amazing control she has over her power? Im pretty sure this was the purpose of Elle frying Ricky. I mean she can create at will a tiny spark to wield a lock or a massive surge capable of killing; no other character has the amount of control.



maybe she's had a longer knowledge of her power. since her father is obviously the head of the company now, i think he's a part in training her.

(sry for the double post)
isitmondayyet?
Ted had pretty good control, there at the end. he hadn't accidentally killed anyone in weeks, and was able to warm up a car battery without nuking the rest of the car
Hero Freak
I know who her father is. His name is David Vator. rolleyes.gif
Candice45
I officially LOVE Elle. A fantastic villainess, confident, powerful and incredibly sexy, a woman who does what she wants and when she wants and will SERIOUSLY ****** up anyone who gets in her way. Loved the way she calmly barbecues Ricky without so much as batting an eyelash...she just doesn't give a damn.

Hope this whole mysterious "Father" thing isn't going to limit her to much. He didn't seem happy that she killed someone and the last thing a character like her needs is someone getting in the way of her fun. Here's hoping her dad is either a villain as well or else she bumps him off soon-ish. I'm just psyched to have a new female bad ****** on the show now they've gotten rid of Candace (Something I shall never fully forgive them for).

And for the record, I'm gonna say her father is either Bob or Kensai/Kane (Given that it's now a cer that he's a member of the Comapany). We've been told her father is someone we've seen before. As he's giving the orders on her assignment he's also someone who works for the Company as it's been confirmed there the ones who put Peter in that box. So...

Unless Linderman is still alive (And I've got a theory on that one) it's not him. It's doubtful it's Angela as she's been in Hopsital during the time Peter's in island and I'm pretty sure you can't use cell phones in Hospital. And nurses and doctors might notice her discussing murder over the landline. It's not HRG as he's trying to get RID of the Company and it's been established that he and his wife didn't have any kids before they adopted Claire. It's not Kaito for the obvious reason that Elle is clearly not Asian. It's not Charles Deveaux because she's not black and he's dead. So who does that leave? Maury Parkman for one. But again, he's not currently in a position to give orders in the Company. The only one whose left is Bob, basically. He's the best fit for this, especially given that he apparently runs the COmpany now. So yeah, I'm guessing it's either Bob or Kensai.
Ronald
Just because she looks caucasion doesn't mean that the father has to be. What about the guy on the second row with the white hair.
Darkstreak
what about claude? could he have rejoined the company? he was protecting someone after all
Ronald
QUOTE (Darkstreak @ Oct 26 2007, 08:17 PM) *
what about claude? could he have rejoined the company? he was protecting someone after all


I do think somebody will be showing up that Claude was hiding but Elli indicated to have been brought up in the actual company. Or was that just Bell explaining her charector. I was wondering why she thought she was powerful enough to go against anything that might come up. Doesn't she know what her subject can do. It seems that Peter already has her power and others could take her out quite easily. I understand having charectors that like their power but she is going to far. I hear all the time where people get over their head because they start something they think they could handle and turns out they couldn't.
prander
QUOTE (prander @ Oct 23 2007, 01:35 PM) *
What exactly is her power, is it electricity or electromagnetism?
Electricity...
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Peter continues, "On a small side note, are Elle's powers just electricity or is it electro-magnetism? A guy who appeared in the comics had electro-magnetism, so I'm just curious if it's the exact same power or just good old electrokinesis."

Good old electrokinesis. She's no Magneto. More Living Lightning. Yes. We said Living Lightning.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12227
Rabbit
I'm interested in her back story, just because she seems so gleefully evil.
Seclusion
I'm actually kinda disappointed that its just electrokinesis, I was hoping she could levitate and such.
shelbel621
Blak!

I really can't stand her. Her immature nature is really annoying, irritating and distracting from the rest of the show for me. She ruins this show for me more than the slow disjointed story lines ever did. And it is very unlike me to write something negative about another person, so for me...it's really bad.
yippeeyayay
QUOTE (shelbel621 @ Nov 13 2007, 10:12 AM) *
Blak!

I really can't stand her. Her immature nature is really annoying, irritating and distracting from the rest of the show for me. She ruins this show for me more than the slow disjointed story lines ever did. And it is very unlike me to write something negative about another person, so for me...it's really bad.


I find her immature nature quite entertaining and amusing, especially in contrast to rest of the characters in the show. I find lot of the characters in the show boring + depressing (ie. Peter, Mohinder, Parkman, HRG, etc...), and Ellie (along with some characters like Hiro) brings the light + spark that's evidently missing in this show. Without Ellie, I probably wouldn't watch Heroes as much, since i was losing interest in it near the end of season 1 (mainly due to Peter's over the top abilities which was getting on my nerves).
Newman
I liked it in the recent episode where Elle tells Peter that basically she has a huge pschotic problem and is basically insane. It runs with how the character is portrayed. I also like the way she uses her powers for other things and that strange sadism about her.
Sander
Elle has really become one of my favorite characters. I like her personality and her sadistic behavior adds a lot.
hulkamania85
I think Elle might become one of my favorite characters. That she's portrayed by Kristen Bell certainly helps, but her craziness is pretty interesting too.
samira21
Elle annoys me to no end. Her being all over Peter in that one scene was so distracting, it actually made me want to change the channel. She is extremely childlike and is not sexy in any way. I'm hoping she's not going to stay on the show.
yippeeyayay
QUOTE (samira21 @ Nov 18 2007, 12:37 AM) *
Elle annoys me to no end. Her being all over Peter in that one scene was so distracting, it actually made me want to change the channel. She is extremely childlike and is not sexy in any way. I'm hoping she's not going to stay on the show.



I thought that scene was sooooo funny! and she did the same thing with mohinder which i thought was hilarious too. she's different, which is good because you don't want all the characters to be perfect and normal.
JadeDestiny
Elle really is a treat...you just know she is totally nuts, but she makes it fun to watch

QUOTE (yippeeyayay @ Nov 20 2007, 06:34 AM) *
I thought that scene was sooooo funny! and she did the same thing with mohinder which i thought was hilarious too. she's different, which is good because you don't want all the characters to be perfect and normal.
Creator
According to the conversation between Noah and Elle at his home (while she was in captivity), Elle was raised from a baby by the Company. I would say that Bob was given little choice in handing her over to the Company for experimentation.

They manipulated her power and her mind, starting during her earliest child development. She was trained to be a tool, a soldier, an assassin of the Company. They trained her well. She's good at what she does. So, the question is, does this make her evil? Was she given a choice on what she would become? Why, she was raped (repeatedly?) by Adam ("...during a moment of weakness...") when she was just sixteen. And we seem to have no compassion for her plight!

Elle is not evil. She is just misguided! But, I believe, there is hope for her yet. We shall see...

Creator
Bones
QUOTE (samira21 @ Nov 18 2007, 04:37 AM) *
Elle annoys me to no end. Her being all over Peter in that one scene was so distracting, it actually made me want to change the channel. She is extremely childlike and is not sexy in any way. I'm hoping she's not going to stay on the show.


I like the backstory here.
How would you have someone act who has grown up in a box? She has obviously not had anything close to a "regular" childhood. If a person has been used and manipulated most of their life what you expect them to be like?
I'm surprised she isn't more evil.

Now onto the electric blue fire that pulses from her at will. I find to be a very awesome power to have. I also find it to be very visually stimulating. She evidently has had the time to perfect her use of the power to produce a tickle, a jolt, or if needed, a continuous blast.

I believe she has possibilities as an Anti-Claire. Lets give it some time to her character to develop "Darkly" I hope.

More Blue Fire please! cool.gif
hani12
QUOTE
I believe she has possibilities as an Anti-Claire.

YES! I am a huge fan of such things, and Elle is the perfect candidate for that. I got chills when Claire and Elle they walked passed each other towards their dads and sort of gave each other this look.
Creator
Claire's regenerative power, like Adam's, would protect her against Elle's awesome arsenal! Elle is beautiful, warped and deadly!

Creator
soma
QUOTE (Creator @ Nov 20 2007, 02:58 PM) *
Claire's regenerative power, like Adam's, would protect her against Elle's awesome arsenal! Elle is beautiful, warped and deadly!

Creator


It makes perfect sense why Elle and Claire would get into a serious brawl. Noah said why do you think I kept Claire away from the Company? Because of you. It just makes perfect sense.
CrossMyHeart
I think Elle is awesome! She's really funny and it's nice to see her interact with people. It'll be interesting to see where her character goes.
DarkHeroJ
i think elle is awesome too!
one of my favorite new characters.

shes hott and has a cool power. at first she seemed to be on the "evil" side but i think she will do some good in the finale maybe. i hope they dont kill her off!
josiah
QUOTE (Creator @ Nov 20 2007, 08:41 AM) *
According to the conversation between Noah and Elle at his home (while she was in captivity), Elle was raised from a baby by the Company. I would say that Bob was given little choice in handing her over to the Company for experimentation.

They manipulated her power and her mind, starting during her earliest child development. She was trained to be a tool, a soldier, an assassin of the Company. They trained her well. She's good at what she does. So, the question is, does this make her evil? Was she given a choice on what she would become? Why, she was raped (repeatedly?) by Adam ("...during a moment of weakness...") when she was just sixteen. And we seem to have no compassion for her plight!

Elle is not evil. She is just misguided! But, I believe, there is hope for her yet. We shall see...

Creator


WHERE DID YOU GET THAT ELLE WAS RAPED? I GOT THE IMPRESSION THAT SHE FRIED HIM YOU KNOW WHERE WITH HER YOU KNOW WHAT.(LOL) I MEAN THINK ABOUT IT SHE COULD REALLY MAKE YOU SQUIRM IF YOU TRIED TO RAPE HER AND I THINK HE SAYS HE IS STILL RECOVERING OUCH
sylarsbrain
I must admit I didn't like Ellie at first over time she grew on me. I hope she comes back when ever Volume 3 starts, I'd like to see her turn against The Comapny and seek revenge on her father while Claire trys to save hers. I just hope they can get Kristen Bell to stay, Ellie has so much potential.
Kia
I love Elle [as you can see on my ava and sig]
She's funny, crazy and you never know what comes next. She could make a perfekt villain or a really good hero next season.
But I thought she was eight when the testing began oo
spiderfrommars
I absolutely hate elle. At first she had no real character, and the writing sucked and to make matters worse, kristen bell literall sounded like she was reading off of a script "Ok I killed him, so what?" or whatever the line was ranks up there with Mark Hammil pretending to be passed out and muttering random stuff about dagobah when han found him as one of the worst acted lines in the history of film.

And then when her character was developped.. I just hated her even more. She's so dumb and corny, and the entire time, you can tell that kristen bell is reading a script. She doesn't sell the role at all and that just ruins it for me. She's not funny, she's just dumb, and stupid, and takes away from the show. I honestly have not encountered a character on this show that I like less than elle. I like jar jar binks better than elle, and here I thought there wasn't a worse character than jar jar to exist.

Sylar needs to kill her, because he's so much better of a villain and he could use the ability to control electricity so much more than she can.
yippeeyayay
QUOTE (spiderfrommars @ Dec 6 2007, 10:24 PM) *
She's so dumb and corny, and the entire time, you can tell that kristen bell is reading a script. She doesn't sell the role at all and that just ruins it for me. She's not funny, she's just dumb, and stupid, and takes away from the show. I honestly have not encountered a character on this show that I like less than elle. I like jar jar binks better than elle, and here I thought there wasn't a worse character than jar jar to exist.

Sylar needs to kill her, because he's so much better of a villain and he could use the ability to control electricity so much more than she can.


Elle is nowhere near as corny or dumb as Peter, Claire, or West. Peter is the definition of stupidity, just see everything he does.

Sylar is a fun character to watch, but he's not funny. He's evil. I wouldn't call Elle a villain now, after watching the finale. She started off at the wrong place, but is slowly moving towards being a hero. And if she's being considered as a 'hero', she'll be the funniest hero on the show.

I'm glad with how the writers are developing her character. I think this goes with the majority of the fans, as she's clearly a popular character in the show (not just in this forum).
spiderfrommars
Sylar's not supposed to be funny though

and hiro's funnier than elle any day and he's a good character.

and peter's dumb in a comic book sort of way. Elle's dumb in a dumb sort of way. Then again, I also have negative opinions of a lot of the other shows that lots of heroes fans watch.
Creator
QUOTE (josiah @ Nov 30 2007, 12:49 PM) *
WHERE DID YOU GET THAT ELLE WAS RAPED? I GOT THE IMPRESSION THAT SHE FRIED HIM YOU KNOW WHERE WITH HER YOU KNOW WHAT.(LOL) I MEAN THINK ABOUT IT SHE COULD REALLY MAKE YOU SQUIRM IF YOU TRIED TO RAPE HER AND I THINK HE SAYS HE IS STILL RECOVERING OUCH


...it's known as statutory rape, josiah. Elle was only 16 when Adam, who was 21+ during his "moment of weakness" as he puts it, engaged in a sexual relationship with Elle. Perhaps, you are unfamiliar with this concept?

Creator
spiderfrommars
To be fair, depending on what state they're in, 16 may or may not be legal age. I go to school in Vermont and once someone hits 16, it's no longer statutory here. I know this because there's this really low scum guy who picks up high school girls and always uses "16 isn't statutory here!" as an excuse.

That being said, I still think that it's wrong.

Also, I don't remember if it was stated or not, but is there a chance that in adam's "moment of weakness" he left elle with a child?

And lastly I apologize for my rather harsh comments about elle above. I said that when I was sleep deprived and bored. Although I can never see myself liking her character, at least not now, I still think that her presence is does add to the story and is interesting. She's a lot more useful than post-Jessica Niki, for instance.
Aerdna
QUOTE (spiderfrommars @ Dec 7 2007, 10:03 AM) *
To be fair, depending on what state they're in, 16 may or may not be legal age. I go to school in Vermont and once someone hits 16, it's no longer statutory here. I know this because there's this really low scum guy who picks up high school girls and always uses "16 isn't statutory here!" as an excuse.


Well, assuming that Elle and her father have always been located in Hartsdale (NY), the legal age here is 18, so it would be considered statutory rape.

That guy sounds creepy. We could really do without people like that in the world.

Oh yeah, and have I mentioned how much I love Elle? happy.gif I think she's been given some of the best lines this season and I felt really sympathetic towards her in the last three episodes. One of my favorite characters, in fact. I hope they can manage keeping her alive without running out of things for her to do.
RedWolf
I don't think Elle ever had a sexual relationship if her being tricked by Peter is any indication.

Remember Adam/Kensei has trust issues.

First he felt betrayed by his girl and best friend (Hiro) then centuries later he was betrayed by his disciples.

Young Elle may have started to gain Adam's trust then bam Elle betrayed him.

Stockholm syndrome which Adam could have got an electrical rude awakening.
dref22
I like her now. She is not stupid, she is only emotionally a little girl. I liked her conversation with HRG in "Powerless". She first threatened him, then she said "please". I don't know way, but I found this heartbreaking, I felt sorry for her.
Alessandra
QUOTE (dizi @ Dec 9 2007, 05:15 AM) *
I like her now. She is not stupid, she is only emotionally a little girl. I liked her conversation with HRG in "Powerless". She first threatened him, then she said "please". I don't know way, but I found this heartbreaking, I felt sorry for her.
So did I. It made me feel sad for her.

... But honestly I must state: My complete attraction to her character is Purely physical. That actress is just to hot for words...
dref22
QUOTE (Alessandra @ Dec 12 2007, 12:37 AM) *
So did I. It made me feel sad for her.

... But honestly I must state: My complete attraction to her character is Purely physical. That actress is just to hot for words...


This show is full of hot people! I somewhat feel the same way for HRG! laugh.gif
RotanevSitnem
Elle is starting to change from murdering sadist (she killed Ricky when he hid Peter from her) to something better than that, let's see the people that she's worked around:
  • Peter Petrelli and Adam Monroe - In their case, it's a more sadistic relationship between prisoners and guards, she was fooled into thinking that she had worn Peter down and wasn't too pleased.
  • Matt Nauenberg - Unknown exectly when this is, but she was clearly affected by his death, something she wouldn't feel if she had chargrilled Peter.
  • Mohinder Suresh and Molly Walker - She knows the value of Molly Walker's ability, she is (misguidedly) risking herself to save Mohinder Suresh and capture Darth Sylar to get back on her Dad's good side, she seemed to like Mohinder's evaluation of her actions in that case.
  • Noah Bennet - Now back to work for the "untrustworthy goondas", Elle seems to think that she will be more likely to get information about her experiments than the one who ordered them.
  • Bob Bishop - Her amoral father, who performed a number of painful experiments that would've got him in trouble with certain authorities if they found out, seems to treat her with less respect than he would with Mr Muggles.
It seems that the fact that Elle's file is empty and that he doesn't acknowledge any of her actions unless they are negative ones could drive her to turn against him, she might be loyal to the company, but push her too far and she might decide to go freelance, starting with frying her dad like a cajun catfish. She might be an emotional screw up due to those experiments done as a child, but that doesn't mean that he is without any trace of "humanity".
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