I was wondering, Charles, Maury, Matt, the Haitian, Candace, and the kid from India have similar powers.

Evidently, Matt can read minds and 'project' thoughts.
Maury, at least, can block mind reading/penetration (from Molly?) as well as put people into false realities.
The Haitian can block mind reading and most powers, as well as extract memories and ?dreams?
Candace could put up a false reality, as could produce nightmares easiliy if she chose.
The kid from India seemed to plant dreams in Mohinder's head, enter dreams, etc.

Whats with these powers? They certainly seem to be connected in some way...mind manipulation? Are they the same power, but focusing on different abilities? Whats the difference between Nightmare and Candace's power?

Also, St. Joan's power. I see it like a variation of Sylar or Peter. Could she learn how do do these powers? Or is she limited by 'normal' human limits?

Lastly, how can Elle be a match for Peter? He would pwn her... telepathy, nuke hands, regeneration, strength, invisibility, electricity, etc.. If, of course, she doesn't zap him into unconscious right away.

Thats it

I see Monica's powers as more like Charlie's from season one. Both could remember anything, it's just that Charlie's memory was verbal and Monica's is kinetic.

I could even make a case that Isaac's power was the visual form of that, with the added twist that he remembered things that hadn't happened yet.

They may all be just different aspects of the same power.

Elle: [bats eyes]
Peter: [swoons]
Elle: [zzzap]
Peter: [dies]
Elle: [dials phone] Daddy? i made a boo-boo ...

LMAO, I cant wait!

Yes, lol. I loved when she called him and was like "What if I..." and she was gonna say "What if I promised not to kill anymore people" or something like that OMG.

As for the thread subject, all there powers effect the mind in some regard. Some if not all of there powers are telepathic in nature. So while they do have similar powers they don't have the same power exactly. The only people who have the potential to have the same powers be Matt and his father. That is of course if what his father said is true about him starting as a mind reader and growing into what he is now.

if the company is behind everything, they seem to have a serious knack for underestimating people. Candace with Sylar, and now Elle going after Peter. Elles power is awesome and all, but I can't see how she could do much against peter unless she gets the jump on him, and then he could just regenerate. Especially if Peter found out she was responsible for Rickys death; an angry ****** off Peter would be a scary sight to behold.

While Elle doesn't have a bag full of powers like Peter, her power still is pretty damn good. Remember Peter has amnesia and doesn't know most of the powers he has and what he does know he has, he has little control over. The funny thing is the power he has the best control over right now seems to be Elle's as we saw in the GN and even then its doubtful he could match her level of control considering she effortlessly whipped out a lightning bolt on poor Ricky..bet she killed him with that then went over and said "Where is Peter..oh damn, I killed him.."

In the end all she have to do is get one good shot off and Peter be knocked out, perhaps Claire's Regeneration power make him recover faster and wake up sooner than normal but then all she do is zap him again. Because remember she has the element of surprise, if Peter met her he by no means expect her to shoot a lightning bolt out of her hands...and mind you she could do even worse for all we know.

...Duh
Peter get's ****** off and loses control...
Remember what happened when he lost control?


(Qouting Sylar)...Boom.

I dunno about that, a lot of Peter's powers seem to be activating subconsciously. Kind of like his body knowing what its capable of and using 'power X' to defend itself. I wouldn't be surprised if she goes to zap Peter, he gets real friggin scared and either goes invisible, flys away, stops time, or nukes Canada.

I'm taking bets on which power Peter is going to use to defend himself!

3/2 Telekinesis
4/1 on stopping/slowing time.
7/1 Electrical Manipulation.
10/1 Invisibility.
12/1 Super Strength.
17/1 Phasing through the floor!
22/1 Nuking Canada!

Come on people! Place your bets!

Qwijibo

*click*

wait -- do we know she doesn't? it makes sense that whomever sent Elle after Peter knows his powers, and it doesn't make sense that they'd send a single-power after him. so maybe Elle's an empath*

and, like Peter, she'd recently picked up electricity (from someone at the docks?) so that's the power she was playing with

finally, to REALLY make this a stretch -- maybe Claude's her father, and he sent her after Peter, not to "bag" him, but to check up on him, make sure he was still okay hiding from The Company™ ... and THAT's why he was mad that she killed some yutz





* i mean empath in Heroes terms, a power-sponge. not like a "oh, i sense your pain" empath

I'll put a hundy on Electrical Manipulation! It would seem easy enough to use that to defend himself since he could reabsorb the lightening bolts.


And I would doubt that Elle is Claude's daughter or that she is an "empath" like Peter, if that was true, it would make much more sense for her to turn invisible and hang out in the bar for awhile and simply wait for Peter to show up. Or use one of the many other powers she'd probably have. Charring someone's body isn't the best way to get information, if you have other powers to use.

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In the end all she have to do is get one good shot off and Peter be knocked out, perhaps Claire's Regeneration power make him recover faster and wake up sooner than normal but then all she do is zap him again. Because remember she has the element of surprise, if Peter met her he by no means expect her to shoot a lightning bolt out of her hands...and mind you she could do even worse for all we know.
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I dunno. Could Elle really get the drop on Pete? To wield that power, she has to be immune to electrocution right? Pete can do it also, so he has the same protection. I wonder if he's only immune while he's using that power. He seem's like Ultra Boy from Legion of Super Heroes to me so far.

FIRST of all... You are now my favorite due to your Legion of Superheroes Reference.

SECOND of all, I don't think he's quite like that. I think he has the powers he has, and can use them as needed. I think he should be immune to the electrical attack.. much to Elle's chagrin.

I realize Peter isn't mastering these powers currently (an may not know about some), but it's got to be pretty hard to surprise a mind reader with super hearing, and who can also slow time.

My money is on Peter using the shows favorite power: Telekenesis.

It's so hard not to think of the Legion when watching Heroes. Or X-men for that matter.

if only Hiro bamfed when he 'ported.

Charles Deveaux definitely has some kind of "awareness" power. In that 'dream' with Peter, he seems conscious of all that has occurred throughout the whole season.

Matt's just a telepath, as is his father. The difference is his father can do so much more with the power, kinda like how Sylar is more adept with the telekinesis than he guy he stole it from, Brian Davis.

People like Eden McCain (mind control); the Haitian (memory manipulation; exculding his power negation ability for now); and Candice Wilmer (illusion casting) all have abilities which a fully mastered telepath like Maury Parkman (or Professor X, for that matter) can do. There powers are psionic and telepathic, but not actual telepathy.

I'm actually confused by Candice myself. I thought her illusion casting powers affected the mind, but then Micah made a comment in the episode "Landslide" in which he says, "I've been thinking about how you do that. You must bend light or something". Then in the "5 Years Gone" episode when Sylar has her power and is using it pose as Nathan Petrelli, it seems to affect electronic mediums as he appears in his disguise on national TV. Then again, it's possible that Candice could've been doing both.

As for Monica Dawson, she mimics special skills, not powers. She does so unconsciously, receiving mental downloads such as so far culinary skills, musical disciplines, and athletic skills. If what she processes isn't purely cerebral, like the wrestling move or the double dutch, then she seems to somewhat replicate the kinetic/sensory memory that her template has honed for their skills.

And yeah, Elle doesn't have ****** on Peter Petrelli.

ha, so i'm NOT the only one!

But what is a power, if not a special skill? Though the powers come to the heroes by no choice of their own, we've seen that they must develop a mastery over them to be effective ... and that when they do so, the power can potentially grow much stronger and expansive.

I think Monica is really interesting. Does she forever retain a skill once she "performs" it? If she can and if she can use her abilty on other heroes after seeing them use their powers, she would be a force to be reckoned with. She could essentially be equal to Peter and Sylar. Anything they throw her way, she picks up instantly.

It was quaint watching her carve a tomato into a flower, but she could end up being the most powerful one of all, except for Peter ... unless she can absorb his power of absorption.

She's a muscle mimic. She mimics physical abilities that people use muscles for. The only powers i could see her being able to mimic are like super speed, super strength, or something to do with muscles.

I cant believe that no-one thought of this!

Does anybody think its strange that peter suddenly has electrical powers?

This must mean that hes met Elle before and absorbed her powers..

Anyone?

I agree with 'sarge'. Monica is a muscle mimic so she could only copy actions done by the muscles. So it's impossible for her to copy super powers because powers do not come from the muscles of the body but from brain. Yes, a person with super speed is using his leg muscles to run but his brain is the reason why he could run super fast. So that's the difference between Monica and Peter because Peter copies abilities from the brain and not from the muscles.







Yes, 'poiromaniax' a lot of people have thought of that. In fact, there have been posts about that even before Elle showed up on Heroes. The moment that rumors about a new cast member with electrical powers came out, a lot of people assumed that Peter must have gotten his electric power from her.