It seems a certain Adam Whatsit was named several times in the episode. Who d'you suppose he is?

(I don't think he's been mentioned before ...)

Adam Monroe is his name. And it seems like he's going to be an important person in the upcoming episodes. I can't wait to see what his power might be. The way Bob was talking, he sounds quite dangerous.

He's NEVER been mentioned before!

Exactly what I want to know...

It should be interesting to see Peter working with him and the Company against.

My guess is he's a new character...somone Peter met before his memory was gone. I'm not entirely sure he's trustworthy though.

He was named in the Heroes cell phone game as being one of the Twelve, and right now it looks like they're setting him up to be the killer. 

Maybe thats Kensie's real name?

yep, he was named as one of the founders of the company

Kane?

Yeah...who IS this Adam guy?

electric girl's dad aka kane...both blonde hair too

good thinking, but i think we need to start throwing up some spoiler tags quick because this "Kane" statement may have just jumped the gun...

until then, keep it down.

They DO like to use Biblical names on this show, so... Adam? The first man ever created? Could Adam Monroe be, like, the first person ever to have powers? That could be Kensei, if his power allows him to live for hundreds of years (or possibly forever.) I swear I saw a samurai-looking banner in that room - and it has the "Godsend" symbol over the door.

Or it could be an entirely new character - but either way it's exciting. Yay, cool things are happening again!

My guess is its Kensei in the future, name change.

Well, we know that whatever his powers are, Peter most likely has it now, and the founders have been pretty powerfull so far (Nightmare man, linderman, Bob), so I cant wait to see whats up.

Methinks this should be moved to speculation.

There was. Possibly the building belongs to Adam and it's stuff of his since he has been alive (if he is Kensei then it would be a lot of stuff.)

Agree. I'm pretty certain. We already know that Kensei isn't his real name. In the mockumentery, they state that it would be absurd if that was his real name, because it means sword saint. Adam Monroe... sounds like him. Also, wasn't Anders casted around the same time they hinted about Adam Monroe.

Another intriguing "new" character to figure out! Sylar's going to have to split some heads soon..the Heroes-verse is getting pretty crowded!

Actually, I'd love to see Sylar run into Adam, and Adam turns out to be even worse than Sylar and says "you are minor leagues bub" and absolutely slaughters Sylar.

I just wanted to say this... at the start of Season Two I purposely avoided going into any of the episode discussions because I thought nothing was worth debating, at least not as much as what I used to enjoy debating and speculating. This episode just set me on FIRE.

Anyway, here are my thoughts on this Adam fellow:

Bob says he's extremely dangerous.
Adam is telling Peter that the world is in danger.
This leads me to the conclusion that Adam is dangerous.
Fast forward one year into yet another apocalyptic future... 93% of the population is dead.
I'm sure other parts of the world are in a desolate state as well, but the writers must have dropped Peter in New York for a reason: to parallel it to last season's dilemma, which was the wiping out of .07% of the population.

What if the bomb really was supposed to go off?
Because in doing that, it would have killed whoever would start/spread this epidemic...
...and what if that someone is Adam?

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Since Peter is without much of a memory, he's pretty vulnerable at the moment. Adam could know about Peter's potential to be extremely powerful and trick him into helping him actually do evil.

Adam is such a cool name. *winks*

I think Kensei will end up being Hiro, not the brit (who will end up being Kane).

Hiro, not the brit, fulfills the samurai writings and is the true hero.

The brit will end up being 'Kane'...and will show up in the present, probably a few episodes down the rode under the name Kane.

Who was Kane (Cain)'s father? Adam.

HHhhhhmmm..

I like the way both of you are thinking... Adam was also the first sinner. Get it f/s as in the letters that make up the symbol.

Wasn't Eve the first sinner? Adam was numero dos...

Adam bit the forbidden apple, eve provided him with it.

You know that Mormons believe that Cain was punished to wander the earth for all eternity. That he was punished to live alone for the rest of his life, never getting the chance to return to heaven (or hell).

I wonder if one of the writers is a Mormon.


The thing is though, how is "Adam" doing all these murders? If he is Kensei, hes obviously using the help of other "Specials"

I'm pretty sure that Adam is Kensei.

I noticed something while watching (and re-watching) the episode last night. If you watch the fight/fleeing scen of Hiro and Kensei in Whitebeard's camp, you'll notice these red banners with a black diamond on each one (must be Whitebeard's army's flag or something).

Then, back to present time, when Peter walks into Adam's home, right away, the same banners are sitting against the wall.

Thought that was interesting.

Makes sense seeing as the daughter is the one painting the stories that become legand. She now knows who the real hero is and thinks of Hiro as deserving the legand of the Kensi.

I'm 99% sure that Adam will turn out to be Kensei. The amount of antiques and rather old stuff in the building would be very consistent will someone who has been walking the earth for a while, it really reminded me of an old persons house. But the thing that struck me as it being Kensei with-out a doubt? On the wall you can clearly see a suit of armor that bears the crest of White Beard, and as we saw last night, due to Hiro's screw up, Kensei has now joined forces with White Beard. I would be surprised if it turns out any other way.

And if it is Adam that is committing these murders, then Kaito's death would make sense, because he could heal after the fall. As for Angela, I would say Adam is using Maury as a pawn. Either they are in league together, or Adam could've set Maury up to think it was Angela who was after him, thus he attacked Angela to protect himself, though that wouldn't explain why Maury also had a picture of Bob with the symbol on it.

Not to be rude, but that would make no sense. If she thought Hiro was the worthy Hero and tells the stories as such, she would tell of the great Hiro, not the great Kensei. Why would she attribute Hiro's actions to Kensei? Why try to glorify the man that has just really screwed you over?

I think the saying that history is written by the victor will come to play here. Kensei will stick around and become powerful, Hiro will eventually go back to his time, leaving Kensei and his new buddies to tell the stories as they see fit.

Good call on that...u hit it on the head with the ADAM i never thought of it that way..but it is definatly kensi...look around that room all his stuff is in that room

that could be true, because with every bad guy story line in sci-fi don't they have to have that point were they turn good or at the very least do good?

uuuummm... yeah... why does everyone think that Kensei is Adam? That'd be a really bad twist... And I don't think that Kensei is the first person ever to have powers.

I noticed the banners right away and linked it to Kensei too. Along with everybody else's speculation, it seems to be making more and more sense that Adam is Kensei.

I think I could forgive Hiro for being so silly if he actually turned out to be the samurai

All the reasons are listed in this thread..a house full of old timey stuff, including Japanese armor with White Beards crest. Who else would have such a collection of stuff?

I also noticed the banners from Whitebeard's camp on the walls of the building that Peter went to. Though I'm still not sure why/how Adam would know Peter would be there.

We know that Adam is one of the founders of the company (from the cell phone game or whatever it was) from the looks of it he appears to possibly be Kensei because of the armor and banners in the building.

I think what possibly causes what happens to the world when Peter goes to the future is what Mohinder was talking about with Bob. That somehow the "shanti virus" could get into the general population which could cause everyone to die. My theory on this is possibly the company wants to get rid of Adam Monroe, now if everyones speculations are correct and Kensei is Adam and his power is immortality they are possibly trying to make a virus to kill him because of either what he knows or some other reason since he cannot be killed by other means (that is if his power is immortality).

I have no proof to back up this idea, but it could be possible that not only is Kensei/Monroe immortal, he could also be a power sponge like Peter. If that is the case, he would've amassed hundreds of power over the years and would be the most powerful super with-out a doubt. To stop someone that powerful, a virus would be called for!

hmmm... maybe he has a strange affiliation with Kensei.

OMG, he must be Hiro!

Or maybe, given enough time, someone with the marker would be able to develop multiple powers? I mean the average lifespan of a human is 70-80 years, contrast that with 300+ that Kensei/Adam would have lived, that's a good bit of time to develop new powers. After all the power that manifests seems to be one that is useful to the bearer's situation, how Maya's power is useful to her, don't know, but AL's is useful in countering her, so his is explained. In 300+ years, I could see more powers developing as he "evolves"/

Well...Linderman had a bunch of stuff like that in his collection. (And I wonder since the casino is no more, where it all went?!) And no one said he might be Kane/Kensei/Adam. There are people who spend enormous amounts of money at auctions & things to add to their collections!

True. But that would require the character to have something redeemable about them.

In the villains category I'd put Sylar in the Joker department: he's just a self-centered psychopath. I don't know if either character is redeemable. Usually redeemable villains are like Magneto: they are people who thought they were helping their cause, but they did it through evil and then saw the error of their ways.

anybody thought about going back and looking at the episode when hiro meets kensei for the first time and says his real name?

Actually, several people have said that...including me....well, except for the Kane part. I still doubt that Kensei is Kane. Kensei is Monroe.

It'd be a pretty big coincidence that we see Peter walking into Adam's house (presumably, since thats who left the note), and right there we see a suit of armor, almost identical to Kensei's, with the crest of White Beard on it, and almost right before that, we saw Kensei switch sides and join White Beards army. Yes, the person could just a be a collector, but I would doubt it. EVERYTHING in the place is old which would indicate the owner is fairly old himself, it was like looking at my 85 y/o grandfathers basement. It wasn't like there was just some old antiques sitting on shelves, all the household items were old, which is either a case of over theming or the result of owning things for hundreds of years. In fact, other than the lights, I don't recall anything modern in the home at all.

Then we have the name Adam Monroe, which is a VERY english Anglo-Saxson name that would have been common in the 17th & 18th century. And it is in Montreal, which has been settled by Europeans since the 1650's, so Kensei could very easily have moved there after leaving Japan.

I'd say the writers are either giving us a big hint that Kensei is Monroe or are trying to seriously mislead us. I think the former is probably true, but time will tell.

Here's what I find hilarious about this thread:

Where has it ever been CONFIRMED there will be a Kane?

Kensai is not Adam Monroe. Adam Monroe was one of the original 12. Did you see David Anders in that picture? Nope. If Adam Monroe is in that picture (and he is as an original 12), he is not Kensai in the 21st century. Although it's true, we don't know Kensai's real name, you will see, it is not Adam Monroe.

Besides, why would he still have all of that stuff. After all, I've moved 5 miles and lost things. He's moved thousands of miles over hundreds of years, and he still has all that stuff? Unlikely.

Linderman wasn't the only one with an archive, we will soon discover.

This is what I believe is going on ADAM is Kensi, and that Kensi is in the picture of 12 photo just with old makeup on. That he may be the guy with his head turned and blurred. Once they entered the room in Montreal there was a ton of stuff relating to Kensi in the room, it could be a misdiretion but I doubt it. As the stuff in the room wasnt completely obvious especially the Samari Suit, which I have yet to see but others seen it. This is what I think is happening and why it will be Adam/Kensi who killed Hiros Dad.

Hiro steals Kensi girlfriend the princess ( in Kensi's eyes) causing Kensi to turn them over to white beard. Hiro defeats the army and Kensi convincing the princess that he is the real kensi and that Adam/Kensi is a fake. Fake Kensi gets banashed leaves japan, goes to Canada or somewhere else. Then durring the 1950s or whenever the company started Adam was part of the original 12, got involved with Angela Petrelli and had two kids. Then he goes on the run (or he and Angella fake his death) fearing for his life, i doubt he is immortal and if his head was cut off that he wouldnt recover, ie he can die. Near the end of season 1 beginning of season 2 he finds out that Angella and Hiros dad had an affair. Angry because not only did Hiro steal his girl but also hiros dad Keito, he threatens to kill both Angella and keito. Manages to kill Keito, pushing him off the room and surviving cause he can heal. Two generations of Nakamaura's stealing the loves of his life could push him over the edge and go on a killing spree. I think the note in the apartment was left before he killed anyone and before he knew about the affair.

Also there was some mention on a forum here before of the red dragon cutting out Kensis heart maybe that wasnt meant figurativly not literally, ie the red dragon being hiro or the princess.

And as for why Kensi from the past and the guy in the picture I think is Adam/Kensi looks different, is obvious that even people with regeneration like claire age, claire has. Thus why the guy could look old in the photo of 12. There is no indication that regeneration causes one not to age, in the show anyways. I bet that it is Dave Anders in the photo with old makeup on.


Stryker

may i ask...didn't kensei introduce himself to hiro w/his real name, after a shocked hiro realizing that his hero was actually a white person not a japanese person? i just don't recall it whatsoever, and i thought you guys might know

all someone has to do is go back and rewatch the episode where kensei and hiro meet because i believe kensei told him what his real name was i just forgot what he said so wouldnt that be funny if he told him his name was adam monroe.