Soooo... Mohinder shoots HRG?

Did I see what I think I saw? Mohinder firing a gun? Perhaps at HRG?

I thought it looked like Sylar personally, didn't get a good look though.

It HAS to be at someone else! Or maybe HRG doesn't die and it's just one of those fake polaroids... You know? Like the CIA does for the witness protection program (not that I know that kind of stuff or anything)?

Yea it was Mohinder if a bandage over his nose (Niki must be a mean partner). But it doesn't have to be related seeing how Kaito's took place much before anything else we've seen in the pictures

Series of 8 screen caps, post em here please

anyone got any caps of those paintings?

Peter's picture shows him with a black haired man and is taken directly from the preview for next week where he see him in a room with a black haired man looking out a window.

Niki's picture seems to support the spoiler posted that she was going to die in a fire saving Monica, but it could just be orange/yellow for looks.

this may be a dumb question but are we sure that is Niki/jess? could it be electric girl (forgot her name)?

dpro has now ascended to the rank of "Just Below Chuck Norris" in my book for posting these first... thanks

how many of these painting have already happened. i no that the one with claire dead on the steps happened, but have any others happened

I wonder if Peter painted any of these, or others, in the past 4 months.

Paintings

Ok, here's what I gathered from all of the paintings. First one on the left (in the wide angle) is Claire lying on the steps from when West dropped her. The one beside it is the painting of a hand holding a vial (and in the closeup scene of this, it appears there's a face just to the right & behind the vial), next to this is what appears to be Niki banging on a mirror, following this appears to be a future painting of Peter, with scar, and left eye (right when viewing the painting) missing/fake. Also, bottom left corner of the painting shows a disease type symbol and the word Oshimashi (or something along those lines, didn't get the best clarity on this picture). First left on the floor is Kensei fighting Hiro, next to that, man holding a smoking gun who could either be Mohinder, Alejandro, or Sylar, really hard to tell. And final, the same picture of HRG on the floor, with no more clarity on who the people in the background are.

Discuss!

The won with Peter to me looks like he is using Isaac's eyes...so perhaps that was from when he painted the montrial paiting.

It's hard to see with these SD screenshots, so I reviewed my dvr and there is a biohazard symbol at the bottom left where that pinkish blob is at.

is sylar in the background of peter picture? it kind of looks like him, but i idk

the PAINTINGS


I'm not sure if anyone has posted these yet but here they are anyway.

Thanks for the pictures. Looks like some crazy stuff is ahead!

Yeah I think it's him too, Which is really interesting, since he seems to just be standing there. I suppose it could be Nathan too, but he has longer hair now, but it's art so you never know

The guy in the corner of Peter's picture looks like Kensai. They seem to be drawn very similar.

looking at the peter painting again it looks more like the quick shot from the preview from next episode where he is looking through the glass window as body bags

I don't know if I should directly show the image, but the following link is a screenshot of the next episode preview. It is the scene from the painting.

Screenshot

The one that looks like Mohinder holding a smoking gun - doesn't that remind anyone of the episode Parasite where Mohinder has Sylar taped to a chair and fires off a shot, but Sylar catches it with his TK?

thats what i thought but that guy in the background still looks real creepy

I thought "the 8" were supposed to be pics of the others murders.

The first is from the NBC preview of Next week's episode.
The second is of the painting we saw in tonights episode.


Anyone know who that other man is? I definitely can't tell.

The man holding the smoking gun is without a doubt, 100% Mohinder. You can tell by his clothing and hairstyle alone (none of the other characters have curly hair, except Micah, and it definitely ain't him), not to mention his brown skin (I doubt that is just shading). As for who he is shooting... it could be a lot of people... HRG, Bob, Niki, Sylar...

Agreed.

It's logical that the first thing to assume would be that he's the shooter in the pic after that but none of these paintings seem to be happening too close together if you get what I mean.

Also, my guess is the writer's figured everyone would assume he's shooting HRG, and that would be too straightfoward for Heroes- there has to be a twist in there somewhere. Although it would make sense that he is shooting HRG, given their rising tension and the fact that Mohinder seems to be getting cozier and cozier with the Company (Niki "keeping an eye on him" aside).

i'm a little suprised no one else has brought this up yet, but for the kensei/hiro painting to be true, one of the following three things would have to have happened:

1) kensei and hiro travel to the present/future and battle it out there.

2) hiro comes back to the present time and kensei lives to be 400 someodd years old because of his ability and fights him.

or
3) this is the first and ONLY painting by isaac mendez that showed a PAST event, rather than the future.

i really hope its NOT the latter.

That is definetly the same as the painting, biohazard symbol and all.



Well, actually, although it takes place in the past, it hadn't happened yet when Isaac was still alive. So it would still have been a future event, although it takes place in the past.
And it really looks more like Mohinder with the gun, although he may/may not be the shooter of HRG. The probably just put them in that order to throw us off
Great job on the screen caps too! I know these are going to get a lot of study!

isaac painted the future. that was his ability. the past isnt the future. it's the past.

An unwritten page of history, drawn before it's time.

Thats exactly what that is.

An event that hasn't come to pass, thats Hiro's future.

Maybe Kensei and Hiro fight in the future?

The vial is the virus, obviously.

The black-haired man could be Kensei, possibly.

I looked at the painting again, it seems a little odd that the "kensei" Hiro is fighting in that shot has short, dark colored hair. So, it is possible that the fight there is not between Kensei and Hiro (though I know the paintings are not always 100% accurate representations of the characters). Though I do agree that since time changed when the bomb did not go off, Hiro probably never went to the past in the original alternate future and messed with Kensei, so the fight between Hiro and Kensei is the future for our Hiro when Isaac was still alive.

the painting of peter, there was a guy on his right, i couldn't really make him out, but it kinda lookd like sylar

The man with the gun is definatly Mohinder, for the obvious reasons that the other posters have pointed out, but also for the reasons we see in the Canadian Preview...

Niki punches Mohinder in the face in the Cnd. Preview, which would explain the nose bandage on the man in the painting.

Forgetting about the other man for a moment, the scenes are very similar! Shocked!Peter, tiles in the background and the sheen of glass... you may be onto something. Still the man in the BG just might be some offical extra type.

So, at what point in the future will Hiro meet a dinosaur?

Last season, yet another case of the painting not being all it seemed. It was a fake sword and a fake dino.

The stuff about the Hiro/Takezo fight being an "unwritten page in history" at the time Isaac painted it doesn't make much sense to me... I mean, isn't Hiro fulfilling a predestination paradox right now? Which means he was always responsible for turning Takezo into a legend, not just fixing the inconsistencies he thinks he's causing by being there... Takezo would've never pulled himself together without him.

Personally i think that the blonde girl looks more like Elle than Niki.

yeah plus we could probably assume that some of them doesnt always have to be sylar peter centric. and some of them could of already happened.

If hiro hadn't shown up, Takezo would have killed the group of bandits (hiro teleported the fake kensai) and returned to the village where what's her face lived and fallen for her. That love would have spurned him on to be the hero that he was in legend. Remember he truly became the hero he was supposed to be because Hiro told him that he and the princess would fall in love. Without Hiro there, that motivation would still be there. Hiro's attitude is what he would have gained through her love, but Hiro, just by being there, has those qualities already, so of course, she falls for him.

I am not so sure. Even with Hiro messing around, when Takezo saw her he didn't seem to particularly care; he was just too self-involved and greedy to really care what she thought. Personally, I believe that Hiro was always meant to be go back there, and the future isn't changing at all. After all, they do say the past is written by the victors, or whatever that saying is. Not only that, but I can't see the writers allowing something like what White Beard is planning, something that would change the entire history of Japan. They wouldn't allow it, so Hiro puts a stop to it, or Takezo has a bit of a conscience and saves the day in the end.

When I saw this picture of the blonde, and later saw Peter and Caitlyn go a year into the future, it reminded me of this future imprisoned Niki, trapped in her jail-cell at the Moab Federal Prison.



It would be cool if they go back and tie-in to the Walls Parts 1 and 2 Graphic Novels while Peter is in the future, and they do more with that story-line.

If Issace was painting Hiro's Future, which he was, then it was the future for Hiro. Hiro may well have been a player in the ancient legend of Kensai, but for Hiro Nakamura, at the time Issace painted that picture, he had not yet done what he was going to do. It happened already, but he himself hadn't done it yet.



Ditto.

I think that the painting of the vial also happened in this episode... So that leaves us with the Peter one of the next eppy, the mohinder one, the elle/Niki one... the bennet one, and the hiro kensei one...

And I don't think they are too far from each other... I mean two already happened in one eppy... so well... let's just see...

Think about it. The past has already been changed. The village of Oto (Or whatever it was called) was not saved. I still think that the Swordsmith was supposed to be the dragon, not Hiro. Kensei and the swordsmith hang out for awhile after saving the village. The swordsmith trains him a bit on swordplay (as a thanks for stopping whitebeard, I mean, you know Kensei would never turn down anything free) and Kensei gets close to his daughter. He starts to fall for her and tries to be a man she could fall for. This leads to his heroism. He tries to marry Yaeko, but her father intervenes (still seeing Kensei as a drunk and jerk) but Yaeko's love has totally transformed him into a better man, and he cuts his own heart out to prove his love (knowing he'll regenerate, unknown to the swordsmith). The swordsmith is so moved by this display that after Kensei revives, he lets them go.

Watch for the swordsmith to do some unexpected things.

HIRO MESSED EVERYTHING UP. Kensei isn't totally evil, just hurt and lashing out. He still might try to prove to Yaeko that he's a man she could fall for.

Hmmm, I'm not yet sure, but i would put my money on HRG.
From the spoilers which are from Kristen, it mentions about a 'non hero' killing another 'non hero' so that could relate to Mohinder and HRG? I know it's kristen, so the infomation isn't exactly set in stone, but if

so...
Here's the quote from her:

A Hero Is Super Dead: Sylar's gonna kill a Hero. A non-Hero's gonna kill a non-Hero. And then Sylar's gonna kill another Hero. Yeah, news flash: The guy's still ridonkulously evil. Don't let that shiny new Mylar fool you!

The guy holding the gun looks like the Irish thug who turned against his gang. I'm guessing they have more in store for him. He is afterall a reletively big talent playing a small role.