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roxygr1223


that better be non alcoholic
MadameHorn
Where did you find that pic?

I think I know of a certain non-smoker non drinker who would disapprove.
But to be quite honest I drank underage. So I can't be upset IF she's doing it as well.
Sifr
Bless her rummy socks... she's an adorable drunk! laugh.gif
themightytruk
Drinking is disgusting, especially underage.
dwhite16
QUOTE (themightytruk @ Oct 30 2007, 10:45 PM) *
Drinking is disgusting, especially underage.


You tell em, truk.
Seclusion
If she was living in Australia she wouldn't be underage =)
Seclusion
QUOTE (themightytruk @ Oct 31 2007, 04:45 PM) *
Drinking is disgusting, especially underage.


Double posting because this sort of statement really ****** me off. This is whats wrong with society, non-acceptance.

There are many Vegetarians out there including lots of celebrities, some even on this show (eg Kristen) I eat meat, does this mean i have to tell them that they are crazy? No they have their beliefs too, If they are Vegetarian so be it.

I am Atheist. Does this mean I tell all Catholics or Islamics that they religion is stupid and they should stop believing? No way, Everyone has their own faith and that is theirs.

Drinking. I am 18 and am allowed to drink in Australia and I do. Some people don't, thats fine by me. Drinking is only bad if you drink irresponsibly, Hayden's there having some champagne, so what? Let her have fun because it's her choice.
pngaou
QUOTE (Seclusion @ Oct 31 2007, 12:23 AM) *
Double posting because this sort of statement really ****** me off. This is whats wrong with society, non-acceptance.

There are many Vegetarians out there including lots of celebrities, some even on this show (eg Kristen) I eat meat, does this mean i have to tell them that they are crazy? No they have their beliefs too, If they are Vegetarian so be it.

I am Atheist. Does this mean I tell all Catholics or Islamics that they religion is stupid and they should stop believing? No way, Everyone has their own faith and that is theirs.

Drinking. I am 18 and am allowed to drink in Australia and I do. Some people don't, thats fine by me. Drinking is only bad if you drink irresponsibly, Hayden's there having some champagne, so what? Let her have fun because it's her choice.


Actually, drinking is also bad if it's illegal. And for Hayden, it's illegal because the drinking age in America is 21.

Beliefs are one thing. Illegal activity is another.
TWK
QUOTE (themightytruk @ Oct 31 2007, 03:15 PM) *
Drinking is disgusting, especially underage.


lol you wuss
ferstrIKE
QUOTE (pngaou @ Oct 31 2007, 07:12 PM) *
Actually, drinking is also bad if it's illegal. And for Hayden, it's illegal because the drinking age in America is 21.

Beliefs are one thing. Illegal activity is another.

Does you think its a little odd though, that at 18 Americans are allowed to vote, to go to war and die when the the politicians they elected want more oil, have sex, get married, get trapped in mortgages and credit card contracts etc yet are not allowed to drink?
How does a country justify creating two classes of adults? It just seems so puritanical. Not that im bagging Americans, its an old law from when legal age of majority was 21, and that was the same in Australia a few decades ago, but it does seem hypocritical to sit around typing messages about how ashamed Hayden should be.
pngaou
QUOTE (ferstrIKE @ Oct 31 2007, 01:53 AM) *
Does you think its a little odd though, that at 18 Americans are allowed to vote, to go to war and die when the the politicians they elected want more oil, have sex, get married, get trapped in mortgages and credit card contracts etc yet are not allowed to drink?
How does a country justify creating two classes of adults? It just seems so puritanical. Not that im bagging Americans, its an old law from when legal age of majority was 21, and that was the same in Australia a few decades ago, but it does seem hypocritical to sit around typing messages about how ashamed Hayden should be.


Yes it is odd, but then again, I don't care for alcohol that much. I never said Hayden should be ashamed (because as one of the other posters mentioned, MOST Americans do drink before the age of 21), but she should be seriously wary of her activities because she is in the spot light. She's clearly said that she doesn't want to be like Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan or Paris Hilton. Underaged drinking is the path to that kind of status.

AND, in the end, it's still illegal, whether you like it or not.
Seclusion
QUOTE (pngaou @ Oct 31 2007, 08:16 PM) *
Yes it is odd, but then again, I don't care for alcohol that much. I never said Hayden should be ashamed (because as one of the other posters mentioned, MOST Americans do drink before the age of 21), but she should be seriously wary of her activities because she is in the spot light. She's clearly said that she doesn't want to be like Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan or Paris Hilton. Underaged drinking is the path to that kind of status.

AND, in the end, it's still illegal, whether you like it or not.


Who are you? The fun police? Everyone does something illegal in their life, usually to have fun. Or are you one of those people who thinks the extreme from minor pictures? Like if two celebrites are holding hands they must be dating or if an 18 year old girl is holding a bottle of Champagne she must be an alcoholic.

I'm not perfect and i'm sure you aren't ether.
pngaou
QUOTE (Seclusion @ Oct 31 2007, 03:26 AM) *
Who are you? The fun police? Everyone does something illegal in their life, usually to have fun. Or are you one of those people who thinks the extreme from minor pictures? Like if two celebrites are holding hands they must be dating or if an 18 year old girl is holding a bottle of Champagne she must be an alcoholic.

I'm not perfect and i'm sure you aren't ether.



Where did I ever claim to be perfect? I don't. For one who says not to judge, you sure do. You also make a TON of outlandish statements and put words into other people's mouths. I never called her an alcoholic. Hayden is HOLDING a bottle of alcohol in her hand. It's not like I Photoshopped it there. It's one of those things where you can pretty much assume what happened.

What I'm saying is, drinking under the age of 21 is illegal. Illegal = not good for someone who wants to have a good image as a celebrity.
Marzipan
I can't believe some of the sanctimoniousness on this thread! I drank as early as high school and I turned out to be a functioning adult. 18-year-olds the world over drink and somehow the sun manages not to fall out of the sky. Unless and until Hayden gets caught stumbling out of a limo with no panties on, it's really not a big deal.
nychulo3
Now I'm not commenting on Hayden, its whatever. But this thread clearly conveys why our society is as messed up as it is. Not only is illegal activity condoned/accepted...but it is DEFENDED. Yes, I drink and did other things other age that I wasn't suppose to, but believe me...no adults in my circle would have ever condoned it or defended me for doing that illegal activity. Nowadays you have parents helping their kids break the law as if it means nothing.
TWK
the people who are annoyed over it should lighten up

would you rather her coked up with her legs spread getting out of a vehicle she just crashed into a wall for her 20th DUI?
ferstrIKE
QUOTE (TWK @ Oct 31 2007, 11:47 PM) *
would you rather her coked up with her legs spread getting out of a vehicle she just crashed into a wall for her 20th DUI?

Is this a trick question? laugh.gif
Stepha
She should be more careful. Hayden-panettiere.com has a slew of her personal pictures, and if more stuff like this keeps popping up, it's gonna be on the news.

And yes, it is sad that our society defends underage drinking.
Marzipan
QUOTE (nychulo3 @ Oct 31 2007, 08:34 AM) *
Now I'm not commenting on Hayden, its whatever. But this thread clearly conveys why our society is as messed up as it is. Not only is illegal activity condoned/accepted...but it is DEFENDED. Yes, I drink and did other things other age that I wasn't suppose to, but believe me...no adults in my circle would have ever condoned it or defended me for doing that illegal activity. Nowadays you have parents helping their kids break the law as if it means nothing.


I'm sorry but, get a grip. I've been drinking socially with my family since that age and we are all productive members of society - teachers, nurses, doctors, lawyers, police officers. I resent this idea that we are the downfall of society because of what we do IN PRIVATE. Even if we weren't productive members of society, we're not driving drunk or hurting anybody*, so it's really nobody else's business.

Just like if Hayden P wants to drink a little in her hotel room and isn't hurting anybody, who cares?

* I will say that I believe there is a special place in Hell for drunk drivers.
SuperChris
Underage drinking is illegal, can't really argue against that, and I really don't care if you do break the law and drink if you're underage as long as you do it responsibly. The problem is people don't. My roommate got arreseted with her friends for underage drinking. They went out, they got wasted, one went to the hospital and they got arrested. If you're gonna drink and you're underage, do it responsibly.
Stepha
QUOTE (Marzipan @ Oct 31 2007, 10:09 AM) *
I'm sorry but, get a grip. I've been drinking socially with my family since that age and we are all productive members of society - teachers, nurses, doctors, lawyers, police officers. I resent this idea that we are the downfall of society because of what we do IN PRIVATE. Even if we weren't productive members of society, we're not driving drunk or hurting anybody*, so it's really nobody else's business.

Just like if Hayden P wants to drink a little in her hotel room and isn't hurting anybody, who cares?

* I will say that I believe there is a special place in Hell for drunk drivers.


Yes, I think that is an issue that people get confused about. I drink with my family as well. They are responsible, well-respected people, and if they think that I am mature enough to handle drinking then they let me.

But the problem is that, presumably, there are no adult, let alone her parents in that picture with Hayden, only friends. I've seen what drinking with friends who have no control does to a person. I've seen stomachs having to be pumped, people who can't remember who they slept with, least of all how many they've slept with the night before, and it has left me completely disgusted with the way teens handle drinking.

Now, by the looks of Hayden's public track record, I don't think she is one of the afformented people above. If she wants to get buzzed, let her get buzzed; I am certainly not one to judge her. But I'm not defending it either.
Marzipan
QUOTE (SuperChris @ Oct 31 2007, 10:15 AM) *
Underage drinking is illegal, can't really argue against that, and I really don't care if you do break the law and drink if you're underage as long as you do it responsibly. The problem is people don't.


This is a really good point. Ironically, I think it's the all-or-nothing attitude towards alcohol that tends to inspire binge drinking and other irresponsible behavior.
SuperChris
QUOTE (Marzipan @ Oct 31 2007, 07:24 AM) *
This is a really good point. Ironically, I think it's the all-or-nothing attitude towards alcohol that tends to inspire binge drinking and other irresponsible behavior.


I agree. Some people believe that it's the fact that it's illegal that makes it more exciting to do and leads to the irresponsible decisions. Based on friends from Canada, they will drink, and will drink a lot but they seem to be smarter about it, maybe it's because they've been exposed to it at an earlier age so they have more experience about it and don't have the thrill that what they're doing is illegal on their mind to push them beyond their limits or make decisions like drunk driving.
WickedM
QUOTE (ferstrIKE @ Oct 31 2007, 03:53 AM) *
Does you think its a little odd though, that at 18 Americans are allowed to vote, to go to war and die when the the politicians they elected want more oil, have sex, get married, get trapped in mortgages and credit card contracts etc yet are not allowed to drink?
How does a country justify creating two classes of adults? It just seems so puritanical. Not that im bagging Americans, its an old law from when legal age of majority was 21, and that was the same in Australia a few decades ago, but it does seem hypocritical to sit around typing messages about how ashamed Hayden should be.



Drinking age in America used to be 18 until about the mid-80's. I know because I was granfathered in when they changed the law.

When you are denied something and not taught how to consume it responibly you don't know how to act when you get your hands on it.
ilikemoney09
Ok, first off, that's not Champagne. It's sparkling wine made in methode champenoise. Which is basically sayings it's made the same way as Champagne, just not in the Champagne region of France. The brand that she is drinking is Andre, which is made in California. What really suprises me is that she went with such a cheap brand. I'm sure she's making a few bucks on Heroes and could easily afford some Dom Perignon or Cristal.

QUOTE (Seclusion @ Oct 31 2007, 03:23 AM) *
Double posting because this sort of statement really ****** me off. This is whats wrong with society, non-acceptance.

There are many Vegetarians out there including lots of celebrities, some even on this show (eg Kristen) I eat meat, does this mean i have to tell them that they are crazy? No they have their beliefs too, If they are Vegetarian so be it.

I am Atheist. Does this mean I tell all Catholics or Islamics that they religion is stupid and they should stop believing? No way, Everyone has their own faith and that is theirs.

Drinking. I am 18 and am allowed to drink in Australia and I do. Some people don't, thats fine by me. Drinking is only bad if you drink irresponsibly, Hayden's there having some champagne, so what? Let her have fun because it's her choice.


To him, drinking is disgusting, and he doesn't like it. You talk about someone jumping on someone's beliefs, yet here you are completely jumping on his. Do upon others as you would have them do upon you.


QUOTE (TWK @ Oct 31 2007, 04:28 AM) *
lol you wuss


Wuss, or rather he doesn't break the law. And to be honest, aclohol tastes terrible.
Dangard Ace
So she's drinking. Question is is she in the US in that picture or is she in some other part of the world where she's legal to drink?
TWK
really, does it matter? She is drinking a low alcoholic drink in a room with 3 friends, not snorting coke in a club toilet with Paris Hilton or Brittney Spears next to her, some of you guys should really calm down and look outside if you are getting upset that she drinks alcohol, does this picture mean she is an alcoholic? No.

She is drinking, get over it. Really.
roxygr1223
im cool with it...i personally dont drink, but hey, whatever I dont care if she does..im 21, but i still dont drink..if she wants to its cool

i personally think the age should be 18 anyway
Hopper
wink.gif Ah..the pains of peer pressure.

Blah, blah, blah...she's under 21, it's illegal. Can't get around that. I hope she was at least being responsible.

Personally, I don't drink (the stuff smells funny, , and I'm underage. I got a dilute taste of beer by accident when I was 8. My dad drank a glass and there was very little and the ice had melted. I was thirsty and I thought it was water..It was the nastiest thing I ever tasted and I spat it right out in the sink).
Leek
If tomorrow, the law was changed to 18 being the legal age, would half the people arguing against her drinking still do it? No, it seems peoples major problem is that she is breaking the law. Thats a valid point.

On a personal level, the girl is pretty mature. She spends her time trying to rescure baby dolphins, at 17 had a full time job and still graduated from high school, yada yada yada. She does a lot, it seems a bit out of whack that not only can she legally not have a glass of whine, but if she holds the bottle in a picture she risks her reputation being ruined.

Things are a bit out of whack for sure. She shouldn't be drinking because she is young, thats one thing. But she shouldn't be drinking cause it's against the law? Any fool can make a rule and any fool will mind it.
katme101
I want to know, why does everyone think she's "drunk" just because she's holding a bottle? I've held bottles of booze, I know how to make drinks, heck, my dad taught me how! But i'm 17, and i've been straight edge since I was 11. Just because she's around others who drink, doesn't mean she was. And even if she was, what are you going to do? Arrest her for a picture of her holding a bottle? And I think the double standard of "adulthood" should have everything changed to either 21, or 18, cause it's the way it is now is just stupid.
wolfbro
Something else to remember, Hayden basically grew up "on" TV. She is familiar with the Hollywood life, the traps and the pitfalls. edit to add: And she likely knows how to avoid them.

From the posted picture (which can easily be misunderstood), it looks like she was having some fun with friends. I'm not defending her actions, just making a point that maybe she was aware of the actions she was taking, that there would be a camera of some kind and didn't over indulge.
blx
The holier than thou attitude really ****** me off. As if the posters who are attacking her have never littered, jaywalked, gone over the speed limit, or in some other way broken a minor law.

Let the girl drink. Hell, if she let me buy her a drink, I'd make sure it was something better than Andre straight from the bottle. That stuff gives you a wonderful hangover headache if you follow it up with a good amount of shots. Not like Korbel. You could drink that all night, finish a bottle of tequilla and never get more than the hiccups.
Sifr
To be honest, from what I've read so far, it seems to be a society thing.

In the UK where the legal drinking age is 18, young people do drink a hell of a lot, and a lot of people drink much earlier than they are legally allowed too. The thing is, being exposed to it earlier does allow most people to know their limits more! I've been to parties where everyone knows when to stop drinking themselves and when to stop their friends drinking because we all knew to have fun but not go crazy with it. When my Philosophy class went to Rome for a trip, where the drinking age is 14, of course we drank! No-one stopped us because we all knew we were in a foreign city and so we had to be responsible with it.

Maybe its because a lot of us do go to the pub a LOT, so thats probably why we're blase about drinking...

I suppose my view is;

No-one can stand on a soapbox and preach about the evils of drinking, because we're all Human and we're all flawed, so to say something like that sorta sounds like they think they're better than everyone else... and if people want to have fun and if they are responsible with it, how can anyone condone that as being wrong? Same as some Vegetarians who give people who eat meat a hard time...

Everyone has a choice what they do, so everyone who says otherwise should with respect, be quiet, and learn to live with it...

Thats just my view on it though, think about it what you want... (which was sorta my whole point there)

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Mabes
ATTA GIRL HAYDEN!

let her have some fun while shes young...she is supposed to.
Joe Ravenclaw
I think that it would only be bad if she was driving somewhere. then I would have a real problem with it. But she's just hanging out with her girl friends, having some champagne(sp?). No boys, no driving, it's perfectly harmless.
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