I guess there are two main ways. One, Hiro at some point will go back to the future and teleport him back, or he meets another time traveler...something of that sort.

Or the one that is more unsettling to me... He lived all that time. That would mean that Claire too will not change, or die..unless someone makes the effort to do her in the right way.

So which makes the morse sense?


(Mind you, no spoilers please, unless you must and they are in bars)

The easiest way to travel through time is living through it. As I type this message, I'm traveling through time. I am AMAZING that way.

I think he has lived all that time.

It's most probable that Kensei/Adam just lived through the years, he was the "visionary," according to Bob. Which would mean he was already influencing others long before then our current set of Heroes. Which also raises another question, how many events did he control of have influence over? Did he start wars or controlled countries? And the idea that the future is still correct would allows us to infer that Kensei is indeed immortal OR that Adam is a descendent of Kensei himself.

I mean...I'm sure he loved the girl and all..but really. He went through all of that..all of that time and effort and anarchy...just to get back and the carp? Dude has some girl issues I'd say. Someone should have told him to drop it.

I told yall back when we found out that he couldn't die that he was the bad guy..or if the company is bad then he's a good guy..
Is it just me or does Claire's boyfriend look like he could pass for Noah Bennet's son?

He is imortal

I guess he's lived all that time. From what Bob said, he was at least around to start the Company. Pretty insane. I wonder how living that long would affect someone. I guess this would mean that Claire can live forever, but I doubt that that will ever matter on the show.

I think he did the old fashioned way, as well... He lived through it.

Personally, I'm not convinced that his power is the same as Claire's and Peter's, I think it could be more along the lines of "immortality".

Fixed.

And yes, immortality would be a side effect of regeneration. Just like teleportation is a side effect of being able to bend time and space.

He clearly lived through it.

nah hes like wolverine. wolverine is over 200 years old. so i think kensei has just lived the last 400 years.

Now I've got ideas of an episode 200 years in the future where Claire and Peter are still around.

Agreed, for a frame of reference. Wolverine's healing abilities keep him from aging at the same rate as everyone else. That is why Claire still grows up, (or she would have been a baby forever). But seeing she regenerates, her aging is slowed. Hense why Kensei/adam still looks so evilishly fine after 400 years..

Raises the question...Kensei knew who Kaito Nakamura was..and he probably knew Hiro as a child..Why not kill him then? But if he had killed Hiro as a child he might not have got his powers as Hiro was undoubtedly the catalyst for them. Round and round we go

Yeah man, we are all like time travelers, man...

Seriously though, I think it was regeneration/immortality. I think another thing that helped him do it, is that he wanted to make Hiro pay, and there was only one way to get to where Hiro went. Live until then.

I think Adam/Kensai is the AlphaGenome and possesses more powers than meets the eye, including time travel and Molly's locating ability. How else would he pop up right where Peter is? I think he's interested in Peter because Peter can evolve multiple abilities, like himself.

He was where Peter was because he was at the place in Montreal where they were supposed to meet before. Seems a logical place for them to run into each other.

He didn't kill Kaito to get back at Hiro, he did it because he is killing of the founders of the Company. just why Bob was saying. Its possible he killed Kaito personally because of those reasons, but in the scheme of things this has nothing to do with Hiro. He just started it all.

of the assumption that he has just lived all these years; how comes he has aged to whatever age he is so far and then suddenly stopped and existed at that age for 400 years? also how comes his hair is identical, cuz after 400 years i'd be pretty bored of that one hairstyle

my guess is that he is something like peter

pretty much because that was the age that he discovered his power.

All I can say is that I wouldn't mind at all if Claire stayed looking the way she looks now for the rest of eternity . . .

Kensei has lived for so long and his powers have evolved. He may have more than just regen powers. But we now know that no matter how powerful Kensei is, Peter is more powerful as he has Kensei abilities plus all the others he collected. Of course Peter needs to know what he has and how to use them.

Unless of course Kensei/Adam is the other empath that Claude was talking about seeing as the Company finds him to be very dangerous and only Peter can stop him. I guess they won't be very happy if they find out Peter and Adam are teaming up.

with the current time theory in heroes, this is not possible. this goes by the standard that time doesn't flow through time. ie the past happens before the future... if at some later time hiro goes back and brings him to the future, given current heroes theory, kensei would not be in the future until we see hiro go back... this is the opposite of what happened with the charlie photo.

Another possible theory, is that Adam Monroe is a Mimicry, and optained Hiro's power, want all "Eff this, I'mma go to the future" and was all "BLAM" and went to the future.

It could happen.

Remember when Claude met Peter, and Peter explained he can absorb other people powers, .. didn't Claude say "Oh, you're one of those." This would mean Claude, a member of the company, that Adam founded, would have met another Mimic. (Empath is the wrong word)

Must I be the one to point out that there was a theory on here a few episodes back that Kensei would be the "Nightmare Man"? While not the Nightmare Man himself, he is indeed the weilder of that weapon (as Bob said) and isn't it always satisfying to realize we were on to something -even though not exactly right - but we were close!

Kensei\Adam is the one who has lead the original group of Heroes to this current state. Forming even his enemies life (Hiro) and knowing he did so. The fact that it was said he started trying to 'punish' human kind with wars, etc goes to his state of mind. 400 years with only his hatred of Hiro as a reason to keep moving on has caused this guy to become seriously twisted. I mean, he didn't even know for certain what year Hiro would pop up, so he probably hung around Japan for ages until he caught on to the nakumuras (I know, i can't spell) family line and this is probably how Adam\Kensei met Hiro's dad.

Oh when Kensei ever grabbed Peter's lightning bolt and healed all lickity split and walked around that corner saying he was Adam..WHOO! I nearly fell off the couch in excitement.

Any thoughts as what Kensei has planned for Peter? Looks to me that Peter probably was the one to help Adam escape (from the previews anyways) and is hoping that friendship will aid him in his plots...whatever those may be.

God I frickin love Mondays!

Be that as it may, if Adam is immortal, then he could have lived all these years. And why didn't he kill Hiro as a boy? How best to take away everything from him than to let him grow up and KNOW what it was like to have those things and lose them. Revenge is a cold, cruel mistress. And he's been harboring her for 400 years.

I would have to agree that he just lived 400 years. He had a grudge the whole time and waits until Hiro comes back from the past. He wouldn't want to risk that Hiro was the trigger that started his powers. Now that Hiro went back, he befriends somebody that can follow Hiro and take him out.

My guess is that Hiro doesn't survive the virus because why wouldn't Angela just go to Hiro instead of Peter to ask him to stop the virus. Now Peter has to decide to help Adam or Angela.

You age as your cells become damaged.

His cells heal.

Immortality.

Wolverine of the X-men has the same issue.

Alright, I just have to say this before we have 50k posters asking why Kensei doesn't look old and if Claire will remain a teenager. Growth and development (puberty and such) are natural human processes that do not rely on healing capabilities or the lack there of to take place. Aging (as in the gray wrinklies) is also a natural process that takes place through cellular degeneration (your skin loses cells break down and damage, your hair loses its color, your hormone levels drop, your brain slowly turns to mush, so on and so forth. Now that being said with an ability called CELLULAR REGENERATION you can expect that person to grow and develop to their peak but never get gray and wrinkly because any celluar degeneration would be instantly healed.

Good luck with that.

Well, at least I may have managed to stop the question in this thread...aw who am I kidding.

Right to those above, and why they won't appear to age.

And this is why he stops aging at this current point in his appearance. My theory: When he was truly 30ish in Feudal Japan, the eclipse happened, somehow triggering his powers to begin. I think if the eclipse is ever explained (beyond just being a dramatic theme), we will learn that it has influence on their powers.

It doesn't matter when his ability manifest his body would always heal to peak levels which means that he could have been 65 when it activate, he would just regress back to mid-twenties appearance.

Thanks, I've been wanting to post that but end the end it may be futile. We still have the "Peter didn't absorb all of Sylar's abilities" threads going on.

But you're right, if people can't understand the concept (some are more visual learners), I would tell them to picture a rollercoaster. As you age from a baby (start of the coaster) go through puberty (going up the top of the hill) your cells regenerate at an astounding rate but the regerations begins to slow and then you hit your "peak" age (top of coaster) [I've heard anywhere from around 23-30]. Once you pass your peak, your rate of regeneration slows even more until the degeneration takes over and you age (going down the back part of the coaster).

For those like Adam and Claire, they probably regenerated and aged like normal. When they would have "accidents" their abilities would kick in to keep them from dying. Once they hit their "normal" peak, then when others would begin aging, wrinkling, turning gray, etc... their ability would keep them at their peak condition.

Makes me wonder one thing. Do other's abilities go down as they get older? In the real world, some people's mental abilities and thinking processes slow just as their bodies age. (not all, b/c there are some brilliant folks in their 90's and beyond) But, it would seem as though the regenerators would never lose their abilities. We see Adam is still kicking at at least 400.

It would be interesting to find out how old he REALLY is. He may have not known about the regeneration ability before he met Hiro if he was never in a life threatening situation, but he could've become a drunkard in order to handle his "curse" of not aging. He may have seen many people around him die for 100 years before Hiro came on the scene but didn't know why.

Bingo! Thank you for explaining this. I was reading the whole thread and growing frustrated that nobody was getting it. Anyone who has read X-Men should understand this. Not that all Heroes fans must read/watch X-Men...but they definitely share a similar fanbase.

I have a quick, random question to you regeneration..ers. When you work out, you rip muscle tissue, and how your muscles grow is by healing over the scare tissue..or something of that sort, right? (I know it's a really loose interpretation, I'm not familiar with the are, maybe someone can correct me) If this is in any form true, how would it work for Claire and Adam? How can they ever get stroung if their muscles heal when ever they do something.




If he had killed Hiro before Hiro was old enough to teleport to the past, he would have changed his own personal history. Remember, he is by far not an expert in powers or what not. While he would still have his powers if Hiro never came (Thought he mightnot be as aware of them) he might link the very fact that he has powers to Hiro coming from the past.

If that wasn't enough, he wouldn't be a "Hero" at all, because Hiro was the one who did everything for him.

Kensai was already 87 years old when we saw him in 1671 Japan. There is no doubt in my mind that he lived all that time and still looks the same.

Well, Peter's power is exactly the same as Adam's since they've met.

You see my dear Leek, Claire and Kensei/Adam do not have the same power. Claire can regenerate, while Kensei on the other hand is immortal. Claire can die, she just comes back to life, but Kensei can't die.
Get it?

Agreed, I believe he said to Hiro that he wanted him to suffer, not die. Much more cruel.

If Kensai was immortal, he wouldn't be able to regenerate. He could get a cut on his arm, and it would stay there and scar, because his power is that he can't die, not that he can heal himself.

But, as we saw, Kensai cut his arm over and over, and every time it healed. So he *does* have regenerating cells.

Kensai died as well, and came back to life, same as Claire. He wasn't just sitting there, hanging out, waiting for the arrows to fall out of his chest. He had expired.

And if Claire dies and comes back to life, meaning she cannot stay dead, doesn't that make her immortal?

I think Kensai CAN die, you just have to chop off his head or remove his brain zombie style. Other then that, he is golden, as long as you don't stick something through his skull and lock him in a room. Same as Claire, same as Peter.

I, also think that all the power might have stemmed from him.

Assuming there were no other specials in the world. Just cause Adam never found them, doesn't mean they weren't out there.


And, I think it's just his arrogance that chose the name "Adam". Like he was the first of his kind. Isn't that typical Kensai? Look at the name who chose forhimself...Takezo Kensai. Sword Saint. He makes bold choices with his names.

He has regenerative cells. Its like a part of the package deal.
But the difference between Claire and Kensei is that we've seen Claire die. We haven't seen him die. If Claire were stabbed in the stomach like Kensei was, then she would've died. Kensei was still alive.

BTW: its KensEi not KensAi >____<

We did too see him die, when he got shot with the arrows. Hiro was crying and what not, and the wound healed. The only reason we didn't see him dead after the explosion was because there were little remains, or by that time he had gotten up and walked away while still healing, like Claire in Company Man.

If you want to get technical, it could be either or neither, because Japanese does not use the alphabet that we use(Roman). It's all just to get the phonetics and there are a lot of different forms of Romanization. Granted, it has always been spelled in the show as Kensei. But why do you have to nitpick about it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C5%8Dmaji

ah yes, I knew you were going to bring this up. My thought is that this was his first time, so it was kind of shocking for him, rendering him unconcious or something...

If you were shot with a bunch of arrows, you might not be jumping around, but I doubt he would just lay back and embrace death.

"Immortality" doesn't pass as a power to me. How can you explain it? How is it possible that he just doesn't die? Does a bubble form around him in an explosion, is he immune to everything? The world offers no explination, where as him having Claire's power does.

:/ I see what you mean Leek. And because I love you so damn much, I'm just gonna leave it at that