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fjimenez1
We can argue this back and forth, but assuming that Adam is immortal, Peter would have to be as well..right?
delusions_of_grandeur
Pretty much..yeah!
Justin
Good observation.

But that doesn't mean he can't be killed if you, like, vaporize him or something.
prander
Yes, physical proximity being the only requirement for Peter to absorb powers.
kaykiwi
Yes, but Peter was dead in the future, the virus can kill him. They had his death certificate.
Micah_Technopath
they had his death cetificate because they thought he died in the explosion over NYC.
VentiDeMilo
QUOTE (kaykiwi @ Nov 5 2007, 11:27 PM) *
Yes, but Peter was dead in the future, the virus can kill him. They had his death certificate.


No way Peter can get the virus. If Claire is the healer, to save the people from the virus, so can Peter, right?
prander
Yes, Peter is supposed to be dead now from his "explosion"... Angela, Nathan, Claire, etc. all think he's dead. It seems that only a few, like Bob and Elle, know he's alive. This would seem to be what they're referring to as his death.
URAINAH
yeah, I was thinking that too. That Peter would be "immortal". I wonder if Claire's power would also be like Adam/Kensie's since his started has regeneration? And doesn't the virus negate powers? So theoritically, it could kill Adam and Peter. Also, explanation of the death certificate: everyone but the Company thought Peter was dead, but really, if there was still hope, they don't issue a death certificate for like 7 years or something? And Angela hadn't seen Peter since before he blew up. Too bad he didn't get ALL of his memories, just memories of her.
Arum
no, the death certificate wasnt about the explotion, the virus stops abilities, so probably peter was infected and couldnt regenerate, so ho died, but this contradicts the fact that bob is gonna use claire to cure Niki, humm..
MrsGoogly
QUOTE (Arum @ Nov 7 2007, 08:52 AM) *
no, the death certificate wasnt about the explotion, the virus stops abilities, so probably peter was infected and couldnt regenerate, so ho died, but this contradicts the fact that bob is gonna use claire to cure Niki, humm..


Doesn't that kind of imply Claire is not the cure? Peter has her power, so he should be just as effective as a cure as she is.

And also, surely she can't be the central theme to the series again, can she?

Is anyone immune to the Haitian's power? Because if they are they might also be able to use their power when they have the virus. And Peter will have to get their power and be the cure. I'm not sure that makes sense ...!

I'm still backing Alejandro or Maya to be the cure.
Visitor27
QUOTE
no, the death certificate wasnt about the explotion, the virus stops abilities, so probably peter was infected and couldnt regenerate, so ho died, but this contradicts the fact that bob is gonna use claire to cure Niki, humm..


No, pretty sure that death certificate was from the explostion. Peter has taken himself out of the time line, so he wouldn't be in the present, to die in the future. In Angela's timeline Peter disappeared after the bomb and then showed up in the summer of 2008. I thought it was very clear.

Cause if he went back he will change history, so he hasn't gone back yet... I don't know if that made sense.

On another note, I don't know how they are going to get out of the fact that Milo and Hayden will age and yet their characters are now immortal. Still out about if Claire is the same as Adam though. I wonder if we'll find out it's something you can will, like your brain can stop your aging at any time you want to. Kinda like the fact that Claire has pierced ears. I'd buy it, on that line of cheesy, that Claire and Peter would want to grow up and not out live the people they love. It will be interesting...
Revengeance
Yeah, Pete is immortal. I've got a hunch he's going to become something like a guy who the good and evil sides struggle over to recruit, because he's pretty much unstoppable now.
SilentOunce
QUOTE (Visitor27 @ Nov 7 2007, 12:02 PM) *
No, pretty sure that death certificate was from the explostion. Peter has taken himself out of the time line, so he wouldn't be in the present, to die in the future. In Angela's timeline Peter disappeared after the bomb and then showed up in the summer of 2008. I thought it was very clear.

Cause if he went back he will change history, so he hasn't gone back yet... I don't know if that made sense.

On another note, I don't know how they are going to get out of the fact that Milo and Hayden will age and yet their characters are now immortal. Still out about if Claire is the same as Adam though. I wonder if we'll find out it's something you can will, like your brain can stop your aging at any time you want to. Kinda like the fact that Claire has pierced ears. I'd buy it, on that line of cheesy, that Claire and Peter would want to grow up and not out live the people they love. It will be interesting...


What explosion? The explosion never happened. Unless you're talking about him exploding high up in the atmosphere. What coroner is going to sign off on that? Yeah... so, uhh... this Peter guy self-exploded a couple of miles above the Atlantic? And you don't have a body? Sure, I'll just type this up.

As far as him "not being in the timeline", that's not the way they do time travel on Heroes. Remember, Hiro met his future self? If, when travelling to the future, people disappear completely from their timeline until they travel back to the present, then Present Hiro could have not met Future Hiro. And, as I said before, it's hard to get a death certificate without a body.

As for the aging thing, that's been discussed to death on other threads. The process of aging is caused by many different things, not all of which can be defined as damage to the body that their ability would allow them to heal. And, unless the show goes on for a decade or so, it's really not even going to matter.
Revengeance
Why does your damn signature always make me laugh? It's unholy, I tells thee!
keepertime
QUOTE (URAINAH @ Nov 5 2007, 09:08 PM) *
yeah, I was thinking that too. That Peter would be "immortal". I wonder if Claire's power would also be like Adam/Kensie's since his started has regeneration? And doesn't the virus negate powers? So theoritically, it could kill Adam and Peter. Also, explanation of the death certificate: everyone but the Company thought Peter was dead, but really, if there was still hope, they don't issue a death certificate for like 7 years or something? And Angela hadn't seen Peter since before he blew up. Too bad he didn't get ALL of his memories, just memories of her.



So how do you explain in the first season, when you see future Peter, he has scares on his face- if he is a healer then he should not have any marks?
MrsGoogly
QUOTE (keepertime @ Nov 7 2007, 09:42 AM) *
So how do you explain in the first season, when you see future Peter, he has scares on his face- if he is a healer then he should not have any marks?


I'm completely guessing here, but I think Hiro gave him that scar with his "Godsend" sword. At the very least, it must be something special/unusual/different to scar Peter - as neither he nor Claire should be able to scar at all.
Exodio
There might be an as yet unidentified Hero who can cause damage even to healers. Maybe an extension of healers powers is the flip side, able to cause damage in other people. Matt's power has a flip side, maybe the healing powers do too.
SilentOunce
QUOTE (Revengeance @ Nov 7 2007, 12:27 PM) *
Why does your damn signature always make me laugh? It's unholy, I tells thee!


A while back I started to edit it to make it Parkman, Bennet, and Sprague. If I have the time I might finish it.

QUOTE (keepertime @ Nov 7 2007, 12:42 PM) *
So how do you explain in the first season, when you see future Peter, he has scares on his face- if he is a healer then he should not have any marks?


Future Peter lived in the world where the cheerleader had died (save the cheerleader, save the world). He never met Claire, so he never gained her power.
MrsGoogly
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Future Peter lived in the world where the cheerleader had died (save the cheerleader, save the world). He never met Claire, so he never gained her power.


But Claire knew that Nathan was her father in the future. Would she not somehow have met Peter through him?
darkcreole
QUOTE (SilentOunce @ Nov 7 2007, 11:19 AM) *
What explosion? The explosion never happened. Unless you're talking about him exploding high up in the atmosphere. What coroner is going to sign off on that? Yeah... so, uhh... this Peter guy self-exploded a couple of miles above the Atlantic? And you don't have a body? Sure, I'll just type this up.

As far as him "not being in the timeline", that's not the way they do time travel on Heroes. Remember, Hiro met his future self? If, when travelling to the future, people disappear completely from their timeline until they travel back to the present, then Present Hiro could have not met Future Hiro. And, as I said before, it's hard to get a death certificate without a body.

As for the aging thing, that's been discussed to death on other threads. The process of aging is caused by many different things, not all of which can be defined as damage to the body that their ability would allow them to heal. And, unless the show goes on for a decade or so, it's really not even going to matter.


With the influence that Angela and the company have had, I'm sure it would be extremely easy to get a death certificate. Could've happened a variety of ways: 1) had someone associated with them in the coroner's office 2) bribery 3) another person with "persuation" abilities
SilentOunce
QUOTE (MrsGoogly @ Nov 7 2007, 01:03 PM) *
But Claire knew that Nathan was her father in the future. Would she not somehow have met Peter through him?


D'oh, I forgot that in one of the future's Claire survived. Well, he could have gotten the scar before he met Claire.
MrsGoogly
QUOTE (SilentOunce @ Nov 7 2007, 11:25 AM) *
D'oh, I forgot that in one of the future's Claire survived. Well, he could have gotten the scar before he met Claire.


Yes, I guess so.

Would the regeneration not work on pre-absorbing-power scars, then?
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